I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail. Everyone else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he volunteers on here, could someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm sure direct would work, but we need to test routed.

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On 07 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail. Everyone else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he volunteers
on here, could someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm sure direct would work, but we need to test routed.

Just sent him one to 618:250/1 from here.


Jay

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* In a message originally to Shurato, Warpslide said:

On 07 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail. Everyone else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he

volunteers

on here, could someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm

sure

direct would work, but we need to test routed.

Just sent him one to 618:250/1 from here.

Thanks!

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I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail. Everyone else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he volunteers on here, could someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm sure direct would work, but we need to test routed.

I have received one from Jay so far, and have responded.

Mike


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On 08 Oct 2024, Mike Powell said the following...

I have received one from Jay so far, and have responded.

I received your reply.


Jay

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* In a message originally to SHURATO, Mike Powell said:

I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail.

Everyone

else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he volunteers on here,

could

someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm sure direct would

work,

but we need to test routed.

I have received one from Jay so far, and have responded.

Mike

Weird. Why in the heck aren't you receiving mine? Everyone else I've sent to is...

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On 07 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I don't want to flood him, but he's still not receiving my netmail. Everyone else is receiving via Micronet and Fidonet. If he

volunteers

on here, could someone with routed netmail send him a message? I'm

sure

direct would work, but we need to test routed.

Just sent him one to 618:250/1 from here.

Jay

I'm sending you one...

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Weird. Why in the heck aren't you receiving mine? Everyone else I've sent to is...

Not sure. Are you sure you sent it to 618:250/1?

Mike


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On 08 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I'm sending you one...

Haven't seen anything here as of yet.


Jay

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* In a message originally to SHURATO, Mike Powell said:

Weird. Why in the heck aren't you receiving mine? Everyone else I've

sent to

is...

Not sure. Are you sure you sent it to 618:250/1?

Yep, and so did Jay, but you got his. Can someone from net 300 who's routing netmail send a netmail message to Mike Powell @ 618:250/1?

Or even net 618, since I can send to that too. I sent a netmail to Jay, but haven't heard back from him either.

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On 08 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I'm sending you one...

Haven't seen anything here as of yet.

Jay

I sent it to Warpslide, do I need to use your real name?

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On 09 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I sent it to Warpslide, do I need to use your real name?

I would get it either way. Nothing received to either name or address (/1 or /23).


Jay

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On 09 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

Yep, and so did Jay, but you got his. Can someone from net 300 who's routing netmail send a netmail message to Mike Powell @ 618:250/1?

May or may not mean anything. I've sent routed Ping netmails from here to both 250/1 and 300/1. Only got a response from 250/1.

Neither node flies the PING flag, so they don't have to respond. Just more of an observation.

I sent a direct ping to 300/1 just now just to see what happens.


Jay

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Warpslide wrote to Shurato <=-

Yep, and so did Jay, but you got his. Can someone from net 300 who's routing netmail send a netmail message to Mike Powell @ 618:250/1?

May or may not mean anything. I've sent routed Ping netmails from here
to both 250/1 and 300/1. Only got a response from 250/1.

Neither node flies the PING flag, so they don't have to respond. Just more of an observation.

I didn't realize mine would respond, but I guess maybe that is a built-in behavior of sbbsecho. ;) Glad it worked!

Mike


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I sent it to Warpslide, do I need to use your real name?

You ALWAYS have to use real names in netmail. It was not designed to use aliases and can result in your messages being deleted en route if a name is
not found in a nodelist.

It is -required- that you use real names in netmail.

From the Micronet Policy Document in section 1, paragraph 7:

7. Netmail requires real names to be used without exception due to the way
netmail is handled by FTN nodes in Micronet. If aliases are used, your
message may not get delivered.

I bet this is why your netmail may be having issues.

Again, always use real names for netmail. You used my full name in your netmails to me.

-- Sean



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Neither node flies the PING flag, so they don't have to respond. Just
more of an observation.

I believe Andrew L. and I are the only ones that have PING and TRACE.

For instructions on how to use those for those who do not know, instructions are in the nodelist.

-- Sean



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I sent it to Warpslide, do I need to use your real name?

You ALWAYS have to use real names in netmail. It was not designed to use aliases and can result in your messages being deleted en route if a name is not found in a nodelist.

I didn't know warpslide's real name so I didn't have a choice. This is the only time I've used a handle. He got it.

It is -required- that you use real names in netmail.

From the Micronet Policy Document in section 1, paragraph 7:

7. Netmail requires real names to be used without exception due to the way netmail is handled by FTN nodes in Micronet. If aliases are used,
your message may not get delivered.

I bet this is why your netmail may be having issues.

Again, always use real names for netmail. You used my full name in your netmails to me.

I normally do, unless I don't know it.

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On 11 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I didn't know warpslide's real name so I didn't have a choice. This is the only time I've used a handle. He got it.

Still haven't received any netmails from you.


Jay

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On 11 Oct 2024, Shurato said the following...

I didn't know warpslide's real name so I didn't have a choice. This

is

the only time I've used a handle. He got it.

Still haven't received any netmails from you.

Ok, I sent one to the followng to Jay Harris: 618:400/23

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Re: Re: Mike Powell...
By: Sean Dennis to Shurato on Thu Oct 10 2024 04:23 pm

Howdy,

You ALWAYS have to use real names in netmail. It was not designed to use aliases and can result in your messages being deleted en route if a name is not found in a nodelist.

From the Micronet Policy Document in section 1, paragraph 7:

7. Netmail requires real names to be used without exception due to the way
netmail is handled by FTN nodes in Micronet. If aliases are used, your
message may not get delivered.

So this sparked some curiosity with me, as I dont see how or why this would occur. (Unless I'm not understanding the context of this discussion?)

It is quite conceivable that user "Teller" on a system could send me a netmail, and:

a) "Teller" wouldnt appear in the nodelist, as he is a user,
b) "Teller" could be a real name.

Is there a spec that I've missed that explains your position in more detail?

When clrghouz processes mail (and netmail) for systems, it does no processing on the "name" fields of a message in a packet (and many other fields for that matter).


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Re: Re: Mike Powell...
By: Sean Dennis to Warpslide on Thu Oct 10 2024 04:25 pm

Howdy,

I believe Andrew L. and I are the only ones that have PING and TRACE.

Pretty much any Synchronet system will respond to Ping, as will clrghouz.

Cant remember if I have implemented TRACE yet, I know I was going to. I'll need to check the code...


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Hello Deon,

12 Oct 24 10:56, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

Re: Re: Mike Powell...
By: Sean Dennis to Shurato on Thu Oct 10 2024 04:23 pm

Howdy,

You ALWAYS have to use real names in netmail. It was not designed
to use aliases and can result in your messages being deleted en
route if a name is not found in a nodelist.

From the Micronet Policy Document in section 1, paragraph 7:

7. Netmail requires real names to be used without exception due to
the way netmail is handled by FTN nodes in Micronet. If aliases
are used, your message may not get delivered.

So this sparked some curiosity with me, as I dont see how or why this would occur. (Unless I'm not understanding the context of this discussion?)

It is quite conceivable that user "Teller" on a system could send me a netmail, and:

a) "Teller" wouldnt appear in the nodelist, as he is a user,
b) "Teller" could be a real name.

Is there a spec that I've missed that explains your position in more detail?

When clrghouz processes mail (and netmail) for systems, it does no processing on the "name" fields of a message in a packet (and many
other fields for that matter).

sounds weird to me as well. so a user can't send netmail, because they are not in the nodelist? never heard this before. :)

Regards,
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Pretty much any Synchronet system will respond to Ping, as will clrghouz.

Then it needs to be in a Synchronet system's nodelist segment. I don't run Synchronet so I wouldn't know what it can or can't do.

-- Sean



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So this sparked some curiosity with me, as I dont see how or why this would occur. (Unless I'm not understanding the context of this discussion?)

It comes from Fidonet's real-namke requirement and how my system would kill single-name named emails. I used to get mail bombs from some nasty people
(who are ironically all dead now) and you did make me think about modifying that. I wrote that 24 years ago and it's not really needed now.

I agree, that's poorly written. I'll remove that by next Friday.

-- Sean



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