Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify the exact port otherwise.

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Shurato wrote to All <=-

Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've
got a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I
never get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real
version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd
specify the exact port otherwise.

You didn't specify an OS, but in Linux the 'lsusb' command would likely
give you the info you seek. Probably have to be root when you run it.



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Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a front

You can pop the case open, trace the wire back to the usb header on the motherboard and MAYBE it'll say there ... but there probably is a software way I'm guessing.

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Shurato wrote to All <=-

Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got
a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never
get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real version
by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify
the exact port otherwise.

You didn't specify an OS, but in Linux the 'lsusb' command would likely
give you the info you seek. Probably have to be root when you run i

Windows10 64bit Pro. I do have a linux vm that I could do that from.

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Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a

front

You can pop the case open, trace the wire back to the usb header on the motherboard and MAYBE it'll say there ... but there probably is a software way I'm guessing.

I found USBDeview. It looks like the device is 2.1 and I don't know about
the hub. The connection on the hub says 3.2 for this device, which is a
thumb drive rated at that connection speed. I think I might have a scam hub.
It is an off brand, but is powered and has lights for the active ports...
I'd like to think that if they put that much effort into it, it would be
legit. MY USB thumbdrives are PNY and Sandisk, so those should be legit. I don't know what's up. I switched from the front mounted usb c to a M/B listed USB 3.2 type A port.

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I found USBDeview. It looks like the device is 2.1 and I don't know
about
the hub. The connection on the hub says 3.2 for this device, which is

I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would indicate
3.x) or not.



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I found USBDeview. It looks like the device is 2.1 and I don't know about the hub. The connection on the hub says 3.2 for this device,
which is

I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would indicate 3.x) or not.

Yes it is, which is why I'm puzzled that I can't get more than 10MBps out of it... That's even slower than USB 2.0. I have 2 external USB HDDs plugged into USB 3.0 ports on the back of my PC and they get the expected maximum of 1Gbps, which is about the max for HDDs. I tried plugging this hub into a similar port and keep getting the abysmal speeds.

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To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Shurato to All on Fri May 10 2024 01:16 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a front panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never get more than 1Mbps out of it... I'd love to know the real version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify the exact port otherwise.

you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.
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To: Shurato Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to All
on Fri May 10 2024 01:16 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Is there any way to tell what USB version a port is using? I've got a

front

panel port that is USB-C and supposedly 3.2, but I never get more than

1Mbps

out of it... I'd love to know the real version by querying a device or something. I don't know how I'd specify the exact port otherwise.

you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.

Yeah, all the hardware and docs show 3.0 or higher, but I'm only getting
1Mbps, plus the ports are blue with the proper number of connectors. My HDDS running off of USB operate at the proper speed (1.1Gb/s or so) on the same port. This is my second hub from different manufacturers and I spent quite
a bit more on this one.

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To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Sat May 11 2024 10:28 pm

you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.

Yeah, all the hardware and docs show 3.0 or higher, but I'm only getting 1Mbps, plus the ports are blue with the proper number of connectors. My HDDS running off of USB operate at the proper speed (1.1Gb/s or so) on the same port. This is my second hub from different manufacturers and I spent quite
a bit more on this one.

no i mean actually look at the board and see what you can see.

but it's apparently some cheap hub so there ya go.
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I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would indicate 3.x) or not.

They make USB 3.x in black as well.

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I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would

indicate

3.x) or not.

They make USB 3.x in black as well.

Figures. I have not seen that yet but did recently come across some that
were white instead.

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They make USB 3.x in black as well.

Figures. I have not seen that yet but did recently come across some that were white instead.

Yeah they have USB-C's that are white now as well.

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To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Sat May
11 2024 10:28 pm

you can physically examine the hardware and look it up.

Yeah, all the hardware and docs show 3.0 or higher, but I'm only

getting

1Mbps, plus the ports are blue with the proper number of connectors.

My

HDDS running off of USB operate at the proper speed (1.1Gb/s or so) on

the

same port. This is my second hub from different manufacturers and I

spent

quite a bit more on this one.

no i mean actually look at the board and see what you can see.

but it's apparently some cheap hub so there ya go.

I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub ($45). It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test. For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write. They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.

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Hello Shurato!

** On Monday 13.05.24 - 13:46, Shurato wrote to Jas Hud:

I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub ($45).
It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.
For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into
my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write.
They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub.
Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.

My TP60 has an PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot, so I got a USB3
adapator for it. Works great.

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To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Mon May 13 2024 01:46 pm

I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub ($45). It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test. For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write. They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.

are you sure you want to run drives off something cheap like that.
i have a few drobo clones that are decent.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KY73BNQ/
they have cheaper models. i'd go with this.

also, do you really use thumdrives that much that you need a hub for them?
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To: August Abolins
Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: August Abolins to Shurato on Mon May 13 2024 05:45 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Hello Shurato!

** On Monday 13.05.24 - 13:46, Shurato wrote to Jas Hud:

I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub

($45).
It provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.
For USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write. They're rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the motherboard, or just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.

My TP60 has an PCMCIA/ExpressCard slot, so I got a USB3
adapator for it. Works great.

i just wonder about all having this junk plugged in causing performance bottlenecks with the overall system.
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To: Shurato Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas
Hud on Mon May 13 2024 01:46 pm

I had an anker 3.0 4 port hub ($19), now I have an RSH 7 port hub

($45). It

provides the proper speed with my HDDs, I don't have a USB SSD to test.

For

USB thumb drives, I get the same speed I get plugging straight into my motherboard (MSI MAG Z590 Tomahawk) 130MB/s read, 13MB/s write.

They're

rated at 550MB/s read and write... I don't know if it's the

motherboard, or

just real world performance. So, it's not the hub. Thanks for all the trouble shooting help though, to all of you.

are you sure you want to run drives off something cheap like that. i
have a few drobo clones that are decent.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KY73BNQ/ they have cheaper
models. i'd go with this.

also, do you really use thumdrives that much that you need a hub for them?

My drives are running off of connections straight to the motherboard. I use the front panel connections for the thumbdrives; I was just testing their
speed and it's the same regardless of whether I use the hub or the
motherboard. I don't have enough external drives to need a NAS (ie, only 1 3.5" and 1 2.5"). I've got enough space internally for 2 more 3.5" and 2
more 2.5" drives any way. I just went external for the ones I use out of convenience.

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To: Shurato
Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Mon May 13 2024 08:27 pm

the front panel connections for the thumbdrives; I was just testing their speed and it's the same regardless of whether I use the hub or the motherboard. I don't have enough external drives to need a NAS (ie, only 1 3.5" and 1 2.5"). I've got enough space internally for 2 more 3.5" and 2 more 2.5" drives any way. I just went external for the ones I use out of convenience.

Do what i do. have one system drive. then get one of those mediasonic drobo clones. throw your harddrives in there. it's so easy. if you want more
space, throw more in. buy another one. throw more in.

Fuck taking apart your case. those days are over. I'd rather buy a whole new computer than tinker around with existing hardware. i wont even swap out a cpu and i could have got a better one for 20 bucks from a guy at work.

people need to change their priorities and stop useless tinkering and building around existing problems. things will be a lot easier. gordon ramsay calls people that are fucused on dumb shit but dont see the big picture busy idiots.
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Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-

people need to change their priorities and stop useless tinkering and building around existing problems. things will be a lot easier. gordon ramsay calls people that are fucused on dumb shit but dont see the big picture busy idiots.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd, pal. BBS sysop and tech hobbyists
have been building solutions for most of their lives - and for the
enjoyment and challenge as much as solving for a need.




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T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Shurato <=-

You can pop the case open, trace the wire back to the usb header on the motherboard and MAYBE it'll say there ... but there probably is a
software way I'm guessing.

We're not in 1994 anymore, my good man.

A 10-second Web search for "windows how to check available usb ports" turned
up at least five ways under Windows to do this:

1. Open Windows Device Manager by going to Control Panel -> Device Manager.

2. Right-click Start and select Device Manager. Browse the list for
Universal Serial Bus controllers. Expand this and look for the USB Host
Controller.

3. Launch PowerShell or Windows Terminal with the 'PowerShell' profile.
Enter the following command: Get-PnpDevice -PresentOnly | Where-Object {
$_.InstanceId -match '^USB' }.

4. Open Device Manager (devmgmt.msc). Expand open Universal Serial Bus
controllers to see which USB port types your system supports.

5. Check the USB icon in the system tray. Ports with connected devices
show a blue and red USB icon, while ports not currently in use show a blue
USB icon. Adjacent to the ports in use youaCOll also see a generic name on
the right. When you select a port that is in use, youaCOll see a screen full
of detailed information about the connected USB device.

For Linux and FreeBSD, if you have the "usbutils" package installed, running "lsusb" as root will give you the info.

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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Tue May 14 2024 08:25 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-

people need to change their priorities and stop useless tinkering and building around existing problems. things will be a lot easier. gordon ramsay calls people that are fucused on dumb shit but dont see the big picture busy idiots.

You're preaching to the wrong crowd, pal. BBS sysop and tech hobbyists
have been building solutions for most of their lives - and for the
enjoyment and challenge as much as solving for a need.

Yeah but bbs sysops are not without fault. there's a difference between being challenged and subjecting yourself to stupidity.

Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their lives, when are they going to learn to backup?? :D
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To: Digimaus
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Digimaus to T.J. Mcmillen on Mon May 13 2024 07:21 pm

$_.InstanceId -match '^USB' }.

4. Open Device Manager (devmgmt.msc). Expand open Universal Serial Bus
controllers to see which USB port types your system supports.

5. Check the USB icon in the system tray. Ports with connected devices
show a blue and red USB icon, while ports not currently in use show a blue
USB icon. Adjacent to the ports in use youaCOll also see a generic name on
the right. When you select a port that is in use, youaCOll see a screen full
of detailed information about the connected USB device.

For Linux and FreeBSD, if you have the "usbutils" package installed, running "lsusb" as root will give you the info.

-- Sean

in the past with wonky for failing hardware, going into devmgmt and looking up the details of a device can give you a lot of information, some of which might be useful.

in my old age i just learned to stay away from cheap hardware. I wouldn't trust an usb hub made by some offbrand company. I've caught stuff in the past when i would buy junk off newegg.
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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Mike Powell to T.J. Mcmillen on Sun May 12 2024 03:05 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

I wonder is the connector inside the USB port blue (which would

indicate

3.x) or not.

They make USB 3.x in black as well.

Figures. I have not seen that yet but did recently come across some that were white instead.

usb 2.0 is black. usb 3.0 are a specific blue.

so if you buy a usb 3.0 device and it's not blue, something's wrong.
there's also teal usb which is usb 3.1. i saw these a few times

and i guess there's a usb 3.2 that is red. that's around 2017
then i guess there's yellow that means always on and is for laptops.

i havent upgraded my computer since 2018 because i have not needed to, i'm no hardware expert.

engineers are morons.
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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their
lives, when are they going to learn to backup??

You're generalizing to make a point. Many do, whether they've learned
the hard way to back up or through force of habit to back their shit
up.




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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Wed May 15 2024 06:54 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their lives, when are they going to learn to backup??

You're generalizing to make a point.

i'm not generalizing. i'm speaking based on 29 years of experience.

Many do, whether they've learned
the hard way to back up or through force of habit to back their shit
up.

who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it all in a crash' way too much.
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who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it >all in a crash' way too much.

I do.

That said, it is not fool-proof. I recently realized that something wasn't right, hadn't been for a while, and hadn't been for long enough that none
of my backups contained a pre-"wasn't right" copy of the indexes in
question. ;)

So I am covered for a crash, but maybe not always for something more subtle.

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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it all in a crash' way too much.

I've got a local filesystem backup using xcopy, a system backup weekly,
and an archival backup in the cloud. Does that count?

If my BBS dies and I don't bring it back up it won't be because of an
inability to restore.


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To: Mike Powell
Re: Re: USB Version of a spec
By: Mike Powell to JAS HUD on Thu May 16 2024 08:53 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it >all in a crash' way too much.

I do.

That said, it is not fool-proof. I recently realized that something wasn't right, hadn't been for a while, and hadn't been for long enough that none
of my backups contained a pre-"wasn't right" copy of the indexes in question. ;)

So I am covered for a crash, but maybe not always for something more subtle.

so it's 2 of us that backup. i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup, and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a shitty manner.
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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Thu May 16 2024 06:19 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

who? who backs up other than me? I don't believe it. i've seen 'i've lost it all in a crash' way too much.

I've got a local filesystem backup using xcopy, a system backup weekly,
and an archival backup in the cloud. Does that count?

If my BBS dies and I don't bring it back up it won't be because of an
inability to restore.

i thought you lost stuff in a crash before.
why are you using xcopy instead of an archiver?

I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.
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Jas Hud wrote to Mike Powell <=-

so it's 2 of us that backup.

It's many more than that.

i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup,

On what factual evidence do you base that irrational statement?

and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a
shitty manner.

There may actually be a little bit of truth in that statement.

I do a "differential" rsync of the BBS machine to another machine on my
LAN, and to an offsite "cloud" server, every single night in the wee hours (automated). I do a semi-automated backup to yet another LAN machine just prior to doing a BBS update, about once a month. Oh, and every now
and then when the mood strikes me (at least once a quarter), I burn
my home directory and /sbbs to a DVD-R and put it on a shelf. Pretty confident I'm covered for anything that may come up.



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Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

i thought you lost stuff in a crash before.

No.

why are you using xcopy instead of an archiver?

Convenience and cheapness of storage.

I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from
a crash other than having your ansi screens.

No, you haven't.



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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud
on Tue May 14 2024 08:25 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-

Yeah but bbs sysops are not without fault. there's a difference between being challenged and subjecting yourself to stupidity.

Furthermore, if they have been building solutions for most of their lives, when are they going to learn to backup?? :D

I back up my BBS directory to an external HDD nightly, with daily backups
going back until I delete them. I back up all of my drives to another
external HDD as well as my BBS to the cloud. The only reason I didn't have a bgackup of my BBS when I decided to bring it back is that I did for 6 years, then thought I'd never bring it back... I had it backed up to DVD, then
threw that away when I didn't realize that I could use a VM... I would like
to think that most of us backup.

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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Fri May 17 2024 06:40 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Jas Hud wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

i thought you lost stuff in a crash before.

No.

pretty sure you said you did and i have a pretty good memory with stuff
i read.

I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.

No, you haven't.

Remember over the years you've been my feed a few times with a few bbses. I had to drop you due to your issues.

And recently, when i was monitoring lux's bbs he was barely getting msgs from your system. You and robert wolfe are the guys that come to mind that are unreliable.

that's fine though. i'm glad you are backing up. that makes you in the minority.
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To: Shurato
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Fri May 17 2024 12:47 pm

I back up my BBS directory to an external HDD nightly, with daily backups going back until I delete them. I back up all of my drives to another external HDD as well as my BBS to the cloud. The only reason I didn't have a bgackup of my BBS when I decided to bring it back is that I did for 6 years, then thought I'd never bring it back... I had it backed up to DVD, then
threw that away when I didn't realize that I could use a VM... I would like to think that most of us backup.

well i remember you losing your stuff. so you didn't backup correctly, or at all. i thought you had a crash issue, i dont recall a dvd story. i wouldn't trust to put it on one DVD anyways, due to cd rot and whatever.

it's YOUR stuff, so do what you want to do. Not backing up is just a common bbs sysop thing.
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To: Shurato
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port? By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Fri
May 17 2024 12:47 pm

I back up my BBS directory to an external HDD nightly, with daily

backups

going back until I delete them. I back up all of my drives to another external HDD as well as my BBS to the cloud. The only reason I didn't

have

a bgackup of my BBS when I decided to bring it back is that I did for 6 years, then thought I'd never bring it back... I had it backed up to

DVD,

then threw that away when I didn't realize that I could use a VM...
I would

like

to think that most of us backup.

well i remember you losing your stuff. so you didn't backup correctly, or at all. i thought you had a crash issue, i dont recall a dvd story. i wouldn't trust to put it on one DVD anyways, due to cd rot and whatever.

it's YOUR stuff, so do what you want to do. Not backing up is just a common bbs sysop thing.

I upgraded to Windows 10 64 bit and didn't know that there were options so
that I could still run 16 bit dos doors. A lot of people don't know that they've got VMs or NTVDMx64 as an option. I didn't find out until about 6 years later after I threw away my backup. Yeah, I learned my lesson and am
not going to go that route again. It took a while for me to get everything back the way I wanted it. Now I've got a triple redundant backup, with 1 offsite. A lot of people don't back up their data and I'm not falling into that trap again.

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On 17 May 24 17:18:00, Shurato said the following to Jas Hud:

I upgraded to Windows 10 64 bit and didn't know that there were options so that I could still run 16 bit dos doors. A lot of people don't know that they've got VMs or NTVDMx64 as an option. I didn't find out until about 6 years later after I threw away my backup. Yeah, I learned my lesson and am

NTVdm64 is okay but its really a hack to make 64-bit Windows do something it was not designed to do. When studying the tech detail on this, the potential for it all to be broken by an MS update is just too much of a red flag.

Nick

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On 17 May 24 06:40:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Jas Hud:

I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.

No, you haven't.

Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.

Nick

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Jas Hud wrote to Shurato <=-

it's YOUR stuff, so do what you want to do. Not backing up is
just a common bbs sysop thing.

It probably is for the "here today, gone tomorrow" type of Sysop who
thinks he wants to run a BBS and then quits when he realizes it's a fair amount of work. I believe most serious Sysops who've been around for a
while are careful about backups.



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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Nick Andre to Shurato on Fri May 17 2024 09:07 pm

so that I could still run 16 bit dos doors. A lot of people don't know that they've got VMs or NTVDMx64 as an option. I didn't find out until about 6 years later after I threw away my backup. Yeah, I learned my lesson and am

NTVdm64 is okay but its really a hack to make 64-bit Windows do something it was not designed to do. When studying the tech detail on this, the potential for it all to be broken by an MS update is just too much of a red flag.

i had to do a rollback because something went wrong with an install of ntvdm64 and i had error msgs popping up for several of my apps. the uninstall program for ntvdm64 didn't fix the issue.

there's still 32bit versions of various windows oses that we can use in vms. and this is a good thing for everyone:
https://blogs.vmware.com/cloud-foundation/2024/05/14/vmware-desktop-hypervisor-pro-apps-now-available-for-personal-use/
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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Nick Andre to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 09:11 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

On 17 May 24 06:40:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Jas Hud:

I've seen how you do things and i don't believe you could recover from a crash other than having your ansi screens.

No, you haven't.

Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.

Nick

more delusions from little nick.

i thought i was the professor.
don't forget to reboot your xp box, bro!
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Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Jas Hud to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 03:49 pm

Remember over the years you've been my feed a few times with a few bbses. I had to drop you due to your issues.

Yeah, your refund must have gotten lost in the mail.
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Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Nick Andre to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 09:11 pm

Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.

Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and people doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.
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Re: Re: USB Version of a spec
By: Jas Hud to Mike Powell on Thu May 16 2024 05:37 pm

so it's 2 of us that backup. i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup, and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a shitty manner.

I am not a sysop, so I think I don't count, but backups are 50% of my personal IT expenses. It is due mostly to the fact that when I upgrade the storage of a working computer, I may have to upgrade the storage of the backup servers that service it.


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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Fri May 17 2024 10:56 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Jas Hud to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 03:49 pm

Remember over the years you've been my feed a few times with a few bbses. I had to drop you due to your issues.

Yeah, your refund must have gotten lost in the mail.

oh that's funny.
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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Kurt Weiske to Nick Andre on Fri May 17 2024 10:58 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: Nick Andre to Kurt Weiske on Fri May 17 2024 09:11 pm

Seems like we're all "backing up" to this same topic and being trolled how much our setups suck compared to our vastly superior IT professional here.

Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and people doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.

Whats more ironic is you say that while i have provided free services *YOU* used AND i also refunded you when you donated. :D

I'm just saying you have stability problems with your system and you don't care. I do believe I read that you stopped feeding people so there's that.

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To: Arelor
Re: Re: USB Version of a spec
By: Arelor to Jas Hud on Sat May 18 2024 11:37 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Re: Re: USB Version of a spec
By: Jas Hud to Mike Powell on Thu May 16 2024 05:37 pm

so it's 2 of us that backup. i am pretty sure about 99% of sysops do not backup, and if they think they are backing up they are doing it in a shitty manner.

I am not a sysop, so I think I don't count, but backups are 50% of my personal IT expenses. It is due mostly to the fact that when I upgrade the storage of a working computer, I may have to upgrade the storage of the backup servers that service it.

Not backing up is just so stupid,and it's not even about caring. i dont care anymore and that's why i script everything. it runs automatically. i just check every once in a while to see if it breaks. I'm sure the little guy will try to twist it into me saying i'm better than everybody but really anybody can do this. they just don't.
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Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and peop doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.

Don't forget the helpful hyperlinks. ahhaha

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To: T.J. Mcmillen
Re: Re: USB Version of a specific port?
By: T.J. Mcmillen to Kurt Weiske on Sat May 18 2024 07:04 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.comp

Yeah, I love how he criticizes people providing volunteer services and peop doing their own thing for the love of a good hobby. That's true class.

Don't forget the helpful hyperlinks. ahhaha

what helpful hyperlinks?
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