From Mark Levin with in 24 hours ago
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Pelosi's Jan. 6 committee failed miserably. It found not a shred of evidence tying President Trump to any kind of "insurrection" or violent attack on the Capitol Building. Despite all the emails, texts, witnesses and, most of all, the complete control of the entire apparatus and narrative without any opposition. The show-trial hearings proved nothing. And despite all the prosecutions and plea deals and threats against protesters unleashed by the DOJ, in what it claims is the biggest investigation in the FBI's history. Not
a single person has any information linking President Trump to any violence or the storming of the Capitol Building.
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biggest investigation in the FBI's history. Not a single person has any information linking President Trump to any violence or the storming of
the Capitol Building. --

It's not the link they're after; it's the prevention of having an unbuyable presidential nominee.

Plus they hate it when people like me say "He was chosen by God to lead the USA." That's super-intimidating to godless leftists.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

From Mark Levin with in 24 hours ago

Mark Levin is hardly a reputable news source.

Pelosi's Jan. 6 committee failed miserably. It found not a shred of evidence tying President Trump to any kind of "insurrection" or violent attack on the Capitol Building.

At the very least, Trump:
1. was warned of violence and failed to act on that information, and
2. refused for several hours to call "his" people off.

Both of these contributed to the level of violence during the insurrection.

Despite all the emails, texts, witnesses
and, most of all, the complete control of the entire apparatus and narrative without any opposition.

This isn't even a complete sentence. How would you react if Biden talked in incomplete sentences?

The show-trial hearings proved
nothing.

The hearings proved quite a lot.

And despite all the prosecutions and plea deals and threats
against protesters unleashed by the DOJ, in what it claims is the
biggest investigation in the FBI's history.

Another incomplete sentence.

Not a single person has any
information linking President Trump to any violence or the storming of
the Capitol Building. --

Trump:
1. Wanted it to happen,
2. Got "his" people all stoked up about this being the last chance to
overturn the election,
3, Sent "his" people to the Capitol, and
4. Sat back and watched the violence on TV.

Jeff.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

biggest investigation in the FBI's history. Not a single person has a information linking President Trump to any violence or the storming o the Capitol Building. --

It's not the link they're after; it's the prevention of having an unbuyable presidential nominee.

Trump is totally buyable. He views everything -- everything -- as a transaction.

Plus they hate it when people like me say "He was chosen by God to lead the USA." That's super-intimidating to godless leftists.

Perhaps he was. Perhaps so were Obama and Biden. Or perhaps not. It does not matter under our system of government. Only citizens can vote, not deities.

Jeff.

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evidence tying President Trump to any kind of "insurrection" or viole attack on the Capitol Building.

At the very least, Trump:
1. was warned of violence and failed to act on that information, and
2. refused for several hours to call "his" people off.

Was Biden warned about 600,000 illegal immigrants due to his policies?

Was Biden warned about 25,000 asylum seekers due to his policies?

Was Biden warned about 1000 people dying along the border due to his policies?

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

Was Biden warned about the fentanyl crisis he created?

Was Biden warned that it would be wrong to declare the pandemic over?

Was Biden warned that his policies would bring on the fastest inflation ever?

Trump "tried to overthrow the government" but Biden's the one who's pulling
all the fast ones.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

evidence tying President Trump to any kind of "insurrection" or attack on the Capitol Building.

At the very least, Trump:
1. was warned of violence and failed to act on that information, and 2. refused for several hours to call "his" people off.

Was Biden warned about 600,000 illegal immigrants due to his policies?

What's your evidence of 600,000 illegal immigrants?

Was Biden warned about 25,000 asylum seekers due to his policies?

Why would that be considered a warning?

Was Biden warned about 1000 people dying along the border due to his policies?

People died along the border before Biden, and more will probably die along
the border after he's gone.

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Was Biden warned about the fentanyl crisis he created?

The fentanyl crisis existed prior to Biden. Additionally, most fentanyl
brought into the US is brought in by US citizens.

Was Biden warned that it would be wrong to declare the pandemic over?

How many times did Trump declare the pandemic over, or that it would be over
in a matter of weeks? Also, given vaccines, the effects of the pandemic among the vaccinated population are far milder than they were at the beginning of
the pandemic (when no one was vaccinated).

Was Biden warned that his policies would bring on the fastest inflation ever?

The inflation is caused by global factors, not Biden policies.

Trump "tried to overthrow the government" but Biden's the one who's pulling all the fast ones.

Or Trump tried to overthrow the government but Biden's the one who's "pulling all the fast ones." I can play the quotation marks game, too, you know.

What Trump did was a far greater threat to our nation than anything Biden's done.

Jeff.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

Mark Levin is hardly a reputable news source.

He is called "The Great One" you can look it up, as to why.

The hearings proved quite a lot.

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court?
Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the democratic party.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

Mark Levin is hardly a reputable news source.

He is called "The Great One" you can look it up, as to why.

Hahahaha!

The hearings proved quite a lot.

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court?
Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the democratic party.

No, it doesn't. ABC News had nothing to do with it.

However, it did present a lot of evidence regarding what happened on 1/6.

Jeff.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

On 15 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

Mark Levin is hardly a reputable news source.

He is called "The Great One" you can look it up, as to why.

Hahahaha!

The hearings proved quite a lot.

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court?
Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the democratic part

No, it doesn't. ABC News had nothing to do with it.

I think it would be a good idea to look that one up.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court?
Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the democratic

No, it doesn't. ABC News had nothing to do with it.

I think it would be a good idea to look that one up.

Ok.

"James Goldston -- former president of ABC News, and a master documentary storyteller who ran "Good Morning America" and "Nightline" -- has joined the committee as an unannounced advisor."

Note the use of the word "former" and the tense of the word "ran."

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/06/jan-6-committee-adviser-james-goldston

Jeff.

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It's not the link they're after; it's the prevention of having an unbuyable presidential nominee.

Trump is totally buyable. He views everything -- everything -- as a transaction.

Leftists are only able to bribe Democrats. That's why 9/11 & that's why Covid.

Plus they hate it when people like me say "He was chosen by God to le the USA." That's super-intimidating to godless leftists.

Perhaps he was. Perhaps so were Obama and Biden. Or perhaps not. It does not matter under our system of government. Only citizens can vote, not deities.

Warm-blooded humans don't think about doing things against God's will, but leftists are thinking deeply into it, so far into it that they don't want
Trump in power.

Leftists don't want Trump in power because he ruins everything for them, and
he prevents them from getting their greasy hands on the revenue that American taxpayers worked hard to provide.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

It's not the link they're after; it's the prevention of having a unbuyable presidential nominee.

Trump is totally buyable. He views everything -- everything -- as a transaction.

Leftists are only able to bribe Democrats. That's why 9/11 & that's why Covid.

9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who can
bribe who, that's just nonsense. It's the money that convinces the bribee,
not the leanings of the briber.

Plus they hate it when people like me say "He was chosen by God the USA." That's super-intimidating to godless leftists.

Perhaps he was. Perhaps so were Obama and Biden. Or perhaps not. It d not matter under our system of government. Only citizens can vote, no deities.

Warm-blooded humans don't think about doing things against God's will,
but leftists are thinking deeply into it, so far into it that they don't want Trump in power.

Or maybe God didn't want Trump in power anymore after all. Maybe God put
Trump in power in the first place as a warning and a wake-up call to America,

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless you've been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric help.

Leftists don't want Trump in power because he ruins everything for them, and he prevents them from getting their greasy hands on the revenue that American taxpayers worked hard to provide.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

The money Biden and the Democrats have spent has been for the benefit
of the American people.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer money
into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on the
things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few exceptions via executive order that were a bit shady).

Jeff.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Leftists don't want Trump in power because he ruins everything for them, and he prevents them from getting their greasy hands on the revenue that American taxpayers worked hard to provide.

Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and
reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Jeff.

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On 15 Oct 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

On 15 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court? Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the democ

No, it doesn't. ABC News had nothing to do with it.

I think it would be a good idea to look that one up.

Ok.

"James Goldston -- former president of ABC News, and a master documentary storyteller who ran "Good Morning America" and "Nightline" -- has joined the committee as an unannounced advisor."

Note the use of the word "former" and the tense of the word "ran."

Initially it was a of matter of haste on my part, when I commented.. but nevertheless it was a former ABC showrunner and he did so much more then simply join the committee as a unannounced advisor, but I do understand why you
would choose to be duplicitous and want to describe his role such as a Gene L. Coon type from the original star trek series; meaning painting this man Goldston as guy behind the scenes or as the unsung hero, which Gene L. Coon was.

In any event the words you used to disguise his role, falls flat and is very transparent and I instantly recognized your intention.
You should of known better, that I have the ability to read between the lines, to decipher if you will.

Democrats hired James Goldston, who served as president of ABC News when it allegedly quashed reporting of accusations against Jeffrey Epstein, to "produce" the Jan. 6 Committee hearings.

This is from: The New York Times.
That siege is now his focus but not as a network news chief. Instead, Mr. Goldston is helping congressional investigators retell and reframe the events of that day for a weary and polarized nation. WITH A HANFFUL OF PRODICTION STAFF, it is his job to sift through and edit down a voluminous amount of images from police body cams, hallway surveillance video and raw footage from
a documentarian hours and hours of recordings that captured the insurrection
as it unfolded. He and his team will help the House committee that is investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack PRODUCE TV-READY SEGMENTS FOR ALL ITS PUBLIC HEARINGS, the next one on Monday morning.

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On 16 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

An ABC News Show runner producing this kangaroo court? Yup, sure did prove that the media is in bed with the

No, it doesn't. ABC News had nothing to do with it.

I think it would be a good idea to look that one up.

Ok.
"James Goldston -- former president of ABC News, and a master documen storyteller who ran "Good Morning America" and "Nightline" -- has joi the committee as an unannounced advisor."
Note the use of the word "former" and the tense of the word "ran."

Initially it was a of matter of haste on my part, when I commented.. but nevertheless it was a former ABC showrunner and he did so much more then simply join the committee as a unannounced advisor, but I do understand why you would choose to be duplicitous and want to describe his role
such as a Gene L. Coon type from the original star trek series; meaning painting this man Goldston as guy behind the scenes or as the unsung
hero, which Gene L. Coon was.

I'm not being duplicitous, and I am not attempting to paint Goldston as anything. I'm simply defending my statement that ABC News has nothing to do with the January 6 hearings, which I have done successfully.

In any event the words you used to disguise his role, falls flat and is very transparent and I instantly recognized your intention.

I didn't use those words, Axios did. I simply quoted them to prove that Goldston is not currently working for ABC News.

You should of known better, that I have the ability to read between the lines, to decipher if you will.

You didn't decipher anything. You were caught in a lie.

Democrats hired James Goldston, who served as president of ABC News when it allegedly quashed reporting of accusations against Jeffrey Epstein, to "produce" the Jan. 6 Committee hearings.

That does not prove any involvement by ABC News in the January 6 hearings.

This is from: The New York Times.

No matter where it's from, it does not prove your claim.

That siege is now his focus but not as a network news chief. Instead, Mr. Goldston is helping congressional investigators retell and reframe the events of that day for a weary and polarized nation. WITH A HANFFUL OF PRODICTION STAFF, it is his job to sift through and edit down a
voluminous amount of images from police body cams, hallway surveillance video and raw footage from a documentarian hours and hours of recordings that captured the insurrection as it unfolded. He and his team will help the House committee that is investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack
PRODUCE TV-READY SEGMENTS FOR ALL ITS PUBLIC HEARINGS, the next one on Monday morning.

It sounds like the committee hired an expert to help present their evidence
to a television audience. There's nothing illegal or unethical in anything you've described regarding Mr. Goldston, and he is no longer affiliated with ABC News. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Jeff.

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At the very least, Trump:
1. was warned of violence and failed to act on that information, and
2. refused for several hours to call "his" people off.

Both of these contributed to the level of violence during the insurrection.

Trump suggested/requested that there be more law enforcement available. Are
you saying he didn't get into his time machine, travel back, and make that suggestion/request soon enough?


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On 16 Oct 2022, Jeff Thiele said the following...

I'm not being duplicitous, and I am not attempting to paint Goldston as anything. I'm simply defending my statement that ABC News has nothing to do with the January 6 hearings, which I have done successfully.

No you haven't been successful in any way. Goldston was the former ABC show runner and he was also the previous President of ABC News. His role within these January 6th has been identified. He was the TV producer of the January 6th hearings for television. He was also hired by the democrats for this Kangaroo court. Based on these facts you have not been successful.
Furthermore there is no way for you to be successful.
Due to the fact that Goldston has already been exposed with his involvement producing these hearings for television and that he was hired by the
Democratic party No other explanation is necessary or will be tolerated.

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On 17 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

Trump suggested/requested that there be more law enforcement available. Are you saying he didn't get into his time machine, travel back, and
make that suggestion/request soon enough?

Trump did not request either the National Guard or additional law
enforcement, nor was his request denied by Democrats. Both of those have been debunked.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000008455887/trump-no-calls-januar y-6-capitol.html
(https://tinyurl.com/y4ahbct9)

Jeff.

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On 17 Oct 2022, Gregory Deyss said the following...

I'm not being duplicitous, and I am not attempting to paint Goldston anything. I'm simply defending my statement that ABC News has nothing do with the January 6 hearings, which I have done successfully.

No you haven't been successful in any way. Goldston was the former ABC show runner

Yes, I pointed that out, as well as the use of the word "former."

and he was also the previous President of ABC News.

I pointed this out, too, as well as the use of the past tense.

show runner and he was also the previous President of ABC News. His role within these January 6th has been identified. He was the TV producer of the January 6th hearings for television. He was also hired by the democrats for this Kangaroo court.

With the exception of calling the very serious January 6 hearings a "Kangaroo court," I also pointed this out.

Based on these facts you have not
been successful. Furthermore there is no way for you to be successful. Due to the fact that Goldston has already been exposed with his involvement producing these hearings for television and that he was
hired by the Democratic party No other explanation is necessary or will
be tolerated.

I don't dispute any of that. In fact, I said as much myself.

What do you think I'm disputing?

I'm disputing your statement that ABC News coordinated with the Democrats in the January 6 hearings. I said that ABC News had no involvement in the
January 6 hearings, and I stand by that.

As far as your statement, you're the one who has not been successful in defending your statement.

Jeff.

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9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who can

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless you been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric help.

God gave most people a BS-detector, but everyone has different deficiencies.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer money into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on the things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few exceptions executive order that were a bit shady).

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

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Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

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Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

The GOP apparently also does not do enough donating to the campaigns of
weak Democrats in primaries to make sure they can beat them in November.
They are probably smart enough to know that doesn't work, unlike the
Democrats who do so and then act surprised when they lose to the far-right candidate they (and likely people like Soros) donated to.


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Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

International news agencies make fun of Joe Biden much more than they did Trump, which goes to show who reflects worse on us internationally. If I
were a Democrat, I'd not use that as part of a political discussion.


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On 21 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who c

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

We know the causes of these incidents. They were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. 9/11. in particular, shot Bush II's ratings sky-high and also helped out Rudy Giuliani considerably.

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric h

God gave most people a BS-detector, but everyone has different deficiencies.

Indeed. You should have yours checked.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

Perhaps the reason they seem to throw election is that their funding of
Trump's legal costs is depleting their resources. That's a fact, not an
excuse.

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

The Republican party has plenty of sugar daddies.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer mo into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on t things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few excepti executive order that were a bit shady).

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

By "trillions of dollars," are you talking about the US budget? Well over
half of it goes to defense, much of what's left goes to paying the salaries of federal workers, a few slivers go to maintaining the social safety net, such
as it is, another sliver goes to NASA (who just knocked an asteroid off
course in a test of planetary defense), some of it goes to maintaining and improving the infrastructure, etc.

A lot of it you don't see because you take it for granted.

Jeff.

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On 21 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than
jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

According to Kari Lake, Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis are the human
traffickers.

Allowing refugees into the country, however, is not engaging in human trafficking. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/apr/06/katie-pavlich/katie-pavlich-f (https://tinyurl.com/25xnz5n6)

Jeff.

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On 21 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

International news agencies make fun of Joe Biden much more than they did Trump, which goes to show who reflects worse on us internationally. If I were a Democrat, I'd not use that as part of a political discussion.

We're clearly getting our international news from different sources.

Jeff.

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The GOP apparently also does not do enough donating to the campaigns of weak Democrats in primaries to make sure they can beat them in November. They are probably smart enough to know that doesn't work, unlike the Democrats who do so and then act surprised when they lose to the far-right candidate they (and likely people like Soros) donated to.

Right! The GOP would need to have "all the money in the world" in order to spend it on stuff like that.

But unfortunately, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the RNC.

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On 22 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As fo

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

We know the causes of these incidents. They were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. 9/11. in particular, shot Bush II's ratings sky-high and a helped out Rudy Giuliani considerably.

Specifically, it would be their reactions to the event, I am sure. If either had reacted differently, it could have tanked both of them.

Hmm. I'm not 100% sure about that. If either of them had reacted differently, it would have tanked the one who reacted differently. I'm with you there. But if Bush had reacted differently, would it have tanked Giuliani? Or vice
versa? I'm not so sure, but I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on the matter.

Jeff.

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On 22 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

But unfortunately, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to
the RNC.

That is true. But neither is "all the money in the world" being donated to
the DNC.

In addition to the RNC being stuck with paying Trump's legal fees, Trump's
own "Save America" PAC has been rather stingy with its money and seems to be spending it on more fundraising. It's not very efficient, though, having
spent $22 million in the last month for fundraising that raised $24 million, netting the PAC $2 million.

Jeff.

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9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

We know the causes of these incidents. They were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. 9/11. in particular, shot Bush II's ratings sky-high and also helped out Rudy Giuliani considerably.

Specifically, it would be their reactions to the event, I am sure. If
either had reacted differently, it could have tanked both of them.


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What's your evidence of 600,000 illegal immigrants?

Most of the media says "2 million illegals entered in 2022," but CBP only vouches for 600,000 illegals.

It's a good thing we sucked in those 25,000 refugees, because otherwise having the border wide open would have been just for the illegals.

Why would that be considered a warning?

Because transforming the USA from a place that "welcomes immigrants" into a "refugee camp" is something the American people didn't ask for.

Was Biden warned about 1000 people dying along the border due to his policies?

People died along the border before Biden, and more will probably die along the border after he's gone.

A 200% increase in border deaths means nothing to brainwashed zombies.

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Ok, so we'll lower Biden's charges to "2nd degree murder" instead.

Was Biden warned about the fentanyl crisis he created?

The fentanyl crisis existed prior to Biden. Additionally, most fentanyl brought into the US is brought in by US citizens.

Now you're changing the definition of "crisis?" We had an "opioid crisis" but now Biden has mutated it into a "fentanyl crisis."

But you still don't answer my questions.. where was Biden when all this stuff unfolded? Hiding behind a desk? Not doing jack? Trying to make black people hate white people? Important stuff he was doing, I guess. But he's not gonna get away with it.

Was Biden warned that his policies would bring on the fastest inflati ever?

The inflation is caused by global factors, not Biden policies.

Every horrible record that was broken so far by the Biden Regime, it's all
just coincidental, and none of it is Biden's fault. He's just a sweet old man. It's not his policies, it's just stuff happening, on top of other stuff happening, which is all coincidence. Got it!

Was Biden warned that it would be wrong to declare the pandemic over?

How many times did Trump declare the pandemic over, or that it would be over in a matter of weeks? Also, given vaccines, the effects of the pandemic among the vaccinated population are far milder than they were
at the beginning of the pandemic (when no one was vaccinated).

0. Trump declared the pandemic over 0 times. He gave us hope that it would be over some day, but Biden is making sure that the virus stays with us until as many white people are dead as possible (and as many black people are angry as possible.)

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On 16 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

What's your evidence of 600,000 illegal immigrants?

Most of the media says "2 million illegals entered in 2022," but CBP only vouches for 600,000 illegals.
It's a good thing we sucked in those 25,000 refugees, because otherwise having the border wide open would have been just for the illegals.

The border is not wide open. That could explain the discrepancies in the numbers.

Why would that be considered a warning?

Because transforming the USA from a place that "welcomes immigrants"
into a "refugee camp" is something the American people didn't ask for.

Giving refugees a new start is not the same as a "refugee camp."

Was Biden warned about 1000 people dying along the border due to policies?

People died along the border before Biden, and more will probably die along the border after he's gone.

A 200% increase in border deaths means nothing to brainwashed zombies.

It goes up and down.

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Ok, so we'll lower Biden's charges to "2nd degree murder" instead.

I'm sure that there were unfortunate deaths under Trump as well.

Was Biden warned about the fentanyl crisis he created?

The fentanyl crisis existed prior to Biden. Additionally, most fentan brought into the US is brought in by US citizens.

Now you're changing the definition of "crisis?" We had an "opioid
crisis" but now Biden has mutated it into a "fentanyl crisis."

Fentanyl is an opioid. From the DEA: "The flow of fentanyl into the United States in 2019 is more diverse compared to the start of the fentanyl
crisis in 2014." https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/DEA_GOV_DIR-008-20%20Fentanyl%2 0Flow%20in%20the%20United%20States_0.pdf
(https://tinyurl.com/2hpfkzt3)

But you still don't answer my questions.. where was Biden when all this stuff unfolded? Hiding behind a desk? Not doing jack? Trying to make
black people hate white people? Important stuff he was doing, I guess.
But he's not gonna get away with it.

The same problems existed under Trump.

Jeff.

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On 16 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Ok, so we'll lower Biden's charges to "2nd degree murder" instead.

"The United States military in 2017 chose to relax its rules of engagement
for airstrikes in Afghanistan, which resulted in a massive increase in
civilian casualties. From the last year of the Obama administration to the
last full year of recorded data during the Trump administration, the number
of civilians killed by U.S.-led airstrikes in Afghanistan increased by 330 percent."
https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/papers/2020/AirstrikesAfghanistan

Trump had 4 years to change things back, but didn't. And then, just before he left office and becuase he KNEW HE HAD LOST, he ordered all military
personnel out of Afghanistan, leaving Biden to take the blame for the mess.

Jeff.

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We know the causes of these incidents. They were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. 9/11. in particular, shot Bush II's ratings sky-high and also helped out Rudy Giuliani considerably.

Bush's re-election success was a Democrat miscalaculation.

We don't know the cause of the pandemic, and never will, because Joe decided it would be best if we don't investigate.

Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins seemed like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we're doing.

Perhaps the reason they seem to throw election is that their funding of Trump's legal costs is depleting their resources. That's a fact, not an excuse.

It doesn't cost money to find candidates. We need turd sandwiches who are willing to wear business attire and capable of saying "yay" and "nay." Democrats know what's up; they have no problem finding people like Gargamel to run against Dr Oz. Where's our Gargamels?

The Republican party has plenty of sugar daddies.

Like Sands Casino? They're nothing compared to the hungry, hungry Hungarian.

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

By "trillions of dollars," are you talking about the US budget? Well over

I'm talking about the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law & the Build Back Better Act. They don't do anything to help the 600,000 illegal immigrants that Joe
let in, and they don't do anything to stop the problem.

Imagine your car barely starts, and it runs hot, and it stalls a lot, and it's way past due for all kinds of maintenance, and the radio don't work. So what does all this mean? Time to buy a new radio?

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Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. Howe reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt an respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoo reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

According to Kari Lake, Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis are the human traffickers.

I thought "trafficking" refers to forced prostitution?

If they were forced into prostitution while at Martha's Vineyard, it's their own fault; they should KNOW that wealthy Democrat elites are rapists.

Allowing refugees into the country, however, is not engaging in human trafficking.

Have you changed your mind about what "human trafficking" means? You used to say "human trafficking is not the same as human smuggling!"

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That is true. But neither is "all the money in the world" being donated
to the DNC.

In addition to the RNC being stuck with paying Trump's legal fees, Trump's own "Save America" PAC has been rather stingy with its money and seems to be spending it on more fundraising. It's not very efficient, though, having spent $22 million in the last month for fundraising that raised $24 million, netting the PAC $2 million.

Right, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the DNC, but it's being donated directly to the campaigns. Do people actually donate blindly to the DNC and/or GOP?

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Most of the media says "2 million illegals entered in 2022," but CBP vouches for 600,000 illegals.
It's a good thing we sucked in those 25,000 refugees, because otherwi having the border wide open would have been just for the illegals.

The border is not wide open. That could explain the discrepancies in the numbers.

You pay attention to the news a lot. Don't you remember some whining about "2 million illegals" <that Joe let in?> When the media "estimates" they do a
lousy job.

Why would that be considered a warning?

Because transforming the USA from a place that "welcomes immigrants" into a "refugee camp" is something the American people didn't ask for

Giving refugees a new start is not the same as a "refugee camp."

Texans should have been given a heads-up that migrants might eat their dogs and/or that they might murder them for their jewelry, because Joe allowed them all to come, knowing that they can't legally work for money to buy food. Joe didn't tell anyone to protect their pets or their elderly's jewels, and now this.

A 200% increase in border deaths means nothing to brainwashed zombies

It goes up and down.

200% is a huge number. "It goes up and down" is a ridiculous cop-out.

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he killed?

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Ok, so we'll lower Biden's charges to "2nd degree murder" instead.

I'm sure that there were unfortunate deaths under Trump as well.

Yea but it's always children who suffer the most (from Democrat policies.)

Now you're changing the definition of "crisis?" We had an "opioid crisis" but now Biden has mutated it into a "fentanyl crisis."

Fentanyl is an opioid. From the DEA: "The flow of fentanyl into the
United States in 2019 is more diverse compared to the start of the

Fentanyl is a concentrated form of opium. It's like BHO/Dabs, only with opium instead of weed. We had a prescription opioid crisis but Joe is fanning the flames with all this fentanyl.

But you still don't answer my questions.. where was Biden when all th stuff unfolded? Hiding behind a desk? Not doing jack? Trying to make black people hate white people? Important stuff he was doing, I guess But he's not gonna get away with it.

The same problems existed under Trump.

Not at these levels.

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Trump had 4 years to change things back, but didn't. And then, just
before he left office and becuase he KNEW HE HAD LOST, he ordered all military personnel out of Afghanistan, leaving Biden to take the blame
for the mess.

Joe's 2021 drone strike killed primarily children.

Trump hasn't targeted children with any drone strikes, that I know of.

Why do Democrats target children with their drone strikes?

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

We know the causes of these incidents. They were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. 9/11. in particular, shot Bush II's ratings sky-high an also helped out Rudy Giuliani considerably.

Bush's re-election success was a Democrat miscalaculation.

That has nothing to do with his favorability ratings after 9/11.

We don't know the cause of the pandemic, and never will, because Joe decided it would be best if we don't investigate.

But to hear you tell it, we *do* know the cause of the pandemic, and it was Democrats!

Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins seemed like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we're
doing.

Some things aren't possible to know, and investigating them is just a huge waste of money.

Perhaps the reason they seem to throw election is that their funding Trump's legal costs is depleting their resources. That's a fact, not excuse.

It doesn't cost money to find candidates. We need turd sandwiches who are willing to wear business attire and capable of saying "yay" and "nay." Democrats know what's up; they have no problem finding people like Gargamel to run against Dr Oz. Where's our Gargamels?

Maybe they've left or gone into hiding because of all of the turd sandwiches.

The Republican party has plenty of sugar daddies.

Like Sands Casino? They're nothing compared to the hungry, hungry Hungarian.

Like Texas oil billionaires and the remaining Koch brother, for two examples.

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jac

By "trillions of dollars," are you talking about the US budget? Well

I'm talking about the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law & the Build Back Better Act. They don't do anything to help the 600,000 illegal
immigrants that Joe let in, and they don't do anything to stop the problem.

Why would you expect infrastructure packages to help immigrants?

Imagine your car barely starts, and it runs hot, and it stalls a lot,
and it's way past due for all kinds of maintenance, and the radio don't work. So what does all this mean? Time to buy a new radio?

Biden has worked out details with Mexico to lessen the problem.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

According to Kari Lake, Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis are the human traffickers.

I thought "trafficking" refers to forced prostitution?

Apparently not. But you're more than welcome to take that up with Kari Lake,
if you'd like.

If they were forced into prostitution while at Martha's Vineyard, it's their own fault; they should KNOW that wealthy Democrat elites are rapists.

And your evidence for this is?

Allowing refugees into the country, however, is not engaging in human trafficking.

Have you changed your mind about what "human trafficking" means? You
used to say "human trafficking is not the same as human smuggling!"

I have not. "Human trafficking" is not the same as either human smuggling or allowing refugees into the country. Human trafficking involves the non-consensual transportation, sale, and/or exploitation of humans.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Right, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the DNC, but it's being donated directly to the campaigns. Do people actually donate blindly to the DNC and/or GOP?

The DNC and RNC both send out fundraising letters and both have coffers, so that would seem to be a "yes."

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Most of the media says "2 million illegals entered in 2022," but vouches for 600,000 illegals.
It's a good thing we sucked in those 25,000 refugees, because ot having the border wide open would have been just for the illegal

The border is not wide open. That could explain the discrepancies in numbers.

You pay attention to the news a lot. Don't you remember some whining
about "2 million illegals" <that Joe let in?> When the media "estimates" they do a lousy job.

I don't watch Fox News. Is it possible that you're conflating refugees and illegal immigrants? Or counting the number of encounters rather than the
number of successful illegal entries?

Why would that be considered a warning?

Because transforming the USA from a place that "welcomes immigra into a "refugee camp" is something the American people didn't as

Giving refugees a new start is not the same as a "refugee camp."

Texans should have been given a heads-up that migrants might eat their dogs and/or that they might murder them for their jewelry, because Joe allowed them all to come, knowing that they can't legally work for money to buy food. Joe didn't tell anyone to protect their pets or their elderly's jewels, and now this.

Do you have any evidence of dogs being eaten or jewelry being stolen by refugees?

A 200% increase in border deaths means nothing to brainwashed zo

It goes up and down.

200% is a huge number. "It goes up and down" is a ridiculous cop-out.

There could be other reasons for that increase than simply who is President
of the United States.

Was Biden warned about the 11 Afghani children he kill

There was no plan to kill 11 Afghani children.

Ok, so we'll lower Biden's charges to "2nd degree murder" instea

I'm sure that there were unfortunate deaths under Trump as well.

Yea but it's always children who suffer the most (from Democrat
policies.)

That's a laugh. Republicans are against a social safety net of any kind.

Now you're changing the definition of "crisis?" We had an "opioi crisis" but now Biden has mutated it into a "fentanyl crisis."

Fentanyl is an opioid. From the DEA: "The flow of fentanyl into the United States in 2019 is more diverse compared to the start of the

Fentanyl is a concentrated form of opium. It's like BHO/Dabs, only with opium instead of weed. We had a prescription opioid crisis but Joe is fanning the flames with all this fentanyl.

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far back as 2014. Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the part about it being
present in 2019, though.

But you still don't answer my questions.. where was Biden when a stuff unfolded? Hiding behind a desk? Not doing jack? Trying to black people hate white people? Important stuff he was doing, I But he's not gonna get away with it.

The same problems existed under Trump.

Not at these levels.

Are you kidding me? Did you forget about Charlottesville? Did you forget
about the George Floyd protests of 2020?

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Trump had 4 years to change things back, but didn't. And then, just before he left office and becuase he KNEW HE HAD LOST, he ordered all military personnel out of Afghanistan, leaving Biden to take the blam for the mess.

Joe's 2021 drone strike killed primarily children.

It seems like a sustained 330% increase in civilian casualties would kill at least 11 children.

Trump hasn't targeted children with any drone strikes, that I know of.

Biden didn't target any children. Biden doesn't target anything. Where did
you get the idea that Biden flies drones?

Why do Democrats target children with their drone strikes?

They don't. Children suffer in every war. Why do Republicans get us into so many wars?

Jeff.

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Specifically, it would be their reactions to the event, I am sure. If either had reacted differently, it could have tanked both of them.

Hmm. I'm not 100% sure about that. If either of them had reacted differently, it would have tanked the one who reacted differently. I'm with you there. But if Bush had reacted differently, would it have tanked Giuliani? Or vice versa? I'm not so sure, but I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on the matter.

Sorry bad phrasing. Your second sentence is phrased correctly. I don't
think the reaction of one would have necessarily tanked the other one.


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Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins seemed like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we're doing.

Some things aren't possible to know, and investigating them is just a huge waste of money.

In this case, it is not possible to know because China won't even allow the
WHO to investigate it. I am not aware of Biden saying we'd never
investigate it. Aaron seems to think so and I may have missed something.

If China won't let the WHO finish an investigation, I don't see them allowing the USA to start one, so it would likely be a waste.


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On 23 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

Specifically, it would be their reactions to the event, I am sure. either had reacted differently, it could have tanked both of them.

Hmm. I'm not 100% sure about that. If either of them had reacted differe it would have tanked the one who reacted differently. I'm with you there if Bush had reacted differently, would it have tanked Giuliani? Or vice versa? I'm not so sure, but I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on matter.

Sorry bad phrasing. Your second sentence is phrased correctly. I don't think the reaction of one would have necessarily tanked the other one.

Ah, ok. No worries.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins se like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we're doing.

Some things aren't possible to know, and investigating them is just a hu waste of money.

In this case, it is not possible to know because China won't even allow the WHO to investigate it. I am not aware of Biden saying we'd never investigate it. Aaron seems to think so and I may have missed something. If China won't let the WHO finish an investigation, I don't see them allowing the USA to start one, so it would likely be a waste.

Plus, think of the precedent it would set. If a pandemic were to start in the US and rumors began in other countries that it was a biological weapon gone awry, how would we feel about WHO or Chinese inspectors demanding access to American research facilities?

Jeff.

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Hello Jeff,

[..]

You pay attention to the news a lot. Don't you remember some whining
about "2 million illegals" <that Joe let in?> When the media
"estimates" they do a lousy job.

I don't watch Fox News. Is it possible that you're conflating refugees and illegal immigrants? Or counting the number of encounters rather than the number of successful illegal entries?

Maybe you thought I was joking about those two fellas from Siberia
applying for asylum being Innuit. And maybe you thought I was joking
about Gorbachev and Reagan making a deal, allowing all Innuit to
travel freely between Siberia and Alaska without a passport. But I
assure you, I was being totally serious then. And I am also being
totally seriously now -

Alaska asylum seekers are Indigenous Siberians from Russia

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Two Russian Indigenous Siberians were so
scared of having to fight the war in Ukraine, they chanced everything
to take a small boat across the treacherous Bering Sea to reach
American soil, Alaska’s senior U.S. senator said after talking with
the two.

The two, identified as males by a resident, landed earlier this month
near Gambell, on Alaska’s St. Lawrence Island in the Bering Strait,
where they asked for asylum.

“They feared for their lives because of Russia, who is targeting
minority populations, for conscription into service in Ukraine,”
Republican U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski said Saturday during a candidate
forum at the Alaska Federation of Natives conference in Anchorage.

“It is very clear to me that these individuals were in fear, so much
in fear of their own government that they risked their lives and
took a 15-foot skiff across those open waters,” Murkowski said when
answering a question about Arctic policy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alaska-asylum-seekers-indigenous-siberians -052441686.html


Do you have any idea of what it is like to traverse the Bering Sea
in a 15-foot skiff? A friend of mine was stationed in Alaska during
the time of the Korean conflict. Being stationed in the Aleutian
Islands, far way from home in Louisiana, can be very challenging.
One day, he could not take it any more. Decided to "borrow" a
PT boat to make it home. He did not get very far, and had to be
rescued at sea. Fortunately for him, he was not courts martialed,
his commanding officer fully understanding the situation.

Putin is desperate. He is losing, badly, in Ukraine. He is not
able to find enough conscripts to replace the troops already lost.
More and more young people are leaving Russia, as well as older
people. Indigenous peoples, such as Innuit, are not trained or
able to fight Putin's wars. Most do not even speak the Russian
language.

Some analysts claim Putin is willing to send 20 million Russians
to their deaths in Ukraine to get his way. If that is the case, and
with so many refusing to fight, his only alternative would be the
use of nuclear weapons. Blaming it all on Ukraine for making him do
it, citing Ukraine's ability to use "dirty" bombs to attack Russia.

I expect Putin to make a demonstration to Ukraine in the next
week or two. Probably in Kherson. Depending on how long it takes
for him to get Russian troops and officers out of the way.

Texans should have been given a heads-up that migrants might eat

their

dogs and/or that they might murder them for their jewelry, because

Joe

allowed them all to come, knowing that they can't legally work for

money

to buy food. Joe didn't tell anyone to protect their pets or their
elderly's jewels, and now this.

Do you have any evidence of dogs being eaten or jewelry being stolen by refugees?

Korea, Vietnam, and China have all banned the practice of eating
dog. Stealing jewelry has always been an occupation among thieves,
regardless of nationality, which can never be controlled.

That's a laugh. Republicans are against a social safety net of any kind.

There is honor among thieves.

For Life,
Lee

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On 23 Oct 2022, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Maybe you thought I was joking about those two fellas from Siberia applying for asylum being Innuit. And maybe you thought I was joking
about Gorbachev and Reagan making a deal, allowing all Innuit to
travel freely between Siberia and Alaska without a passport. But I
assure you, I was being totally serious then. And I am also being
totally seriously now -

I believed you then and I believe you now. Except there's one part you left out: they requested asylum from the US, which made them refugees.

It doesn't matter that they were allowed to travel freely between coastal regions of the two countries; that clearly wasn't good enough for them if they felt the need to request asylum. Perhaps they were afraid that others from their community would come to take them back. Who knows?

What we do know is that their request for asylum got them moved out of the coastal area along the border and into Anchorage, a much safer location for them.

The point is that they requested to remain in the US as refugees, which is exactly what the asylum-seekers who cross the southern border are requesting.

Jeff.

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Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins seem like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we're doing.

Some things aren't possible to know, and investigating them is just a
huge waste of money.

More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less important?

Like Texas oil billionaires and the remaining Koch brother, for two examples.

They're not geneerous enough.

I'm talking about the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law & the Build Back Better Act. They don't do anything to help the 600,000 illegal immigrants that Joe let in, and they don't do anything to stop the problem.

Why would you expect infrastructure packages to help immigrants?

Because 600,000 illegals have arrived at the same time as the ridiculous spending. No infrastructure for them is stupid. When I buy a new cell phone, I buy a new case for it right away. Where's the cases for these 600,000 cellphones?

Biden has worked out details with Mexico to lessen the problem.

But what happened to "It's inhumane to put immigrants in filthy Mexico?"

My ancestors were immigrants. It's sickening to think that had they waited
till now to migrate, they'd be forced to go to that inhumane place (Mexico) where rich Americans often take their vacations, all thanks to Democrat policies.

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I thought "trafficking" refers to forced prostitution?

Apparently not. But you're more than welcome to take that up with Kari Lake, if you'd like.

You should take it up with Kari Lake because you're the one who's been the
most careful not to mix human smugglers with human traffickers while referring to either.

If they were forced into prostitution while at Martha's Vineyard, it' their own fault; they should KNOW that wealthy Democrat elites are rapists.

And your evidence for this is?

Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Bill Richardson, every governor NY ever had, Al Franken..

I have not. "Human trafficking" is not the same as either human
smuggling or allowing refugees into the country. Human trafficking involves the non-consensual transportation, sale, and/or exploitation of humans.

So then Kari Lake is the confused one?

According to Kari Lake, Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis are the hum traffickers.

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The DNC and RNC both send out fundraising letters and both have coffers, so that would seem to be a "yes."

Yea but that's not what George does and that's not what the Sands Casino does. They have specific monkeys that they put their money on.

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I don't watch Fox News. Is it possible that you're conflating refugees
and illegal immigrants? Or counting the number of encounters rather than the number of successful illegal entries?

I don't conflate much. Next time I see "2 million immigrants" in the news I'll post about it here and hopefully we'll find out who that # includes.

Texans should have been given a heads-up that migrants might eat thei dogs and/or that they might murder them for their jewelry, because Jo allowed them all to come, knowing that they can't legally work for mo to buy food. Joe didn't tell anyone to protect their pets or their elderly's jewels, and now this.

Do you have any evidence of dogs being eaten or jewelry being stolen by refugees?

We weren't talking about refugees, just "migrants."

Fox News has the dog eating story: https://tinyurl.com/2m29z5ha

Fatal jewelry robberies are a common occurrance.

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far back as 2014. Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the part about it being present in 2019, though.

It doesn't matter when the DEA decided to call it a "crisis." The record-breaking seizures of fentanyl are occurring during the Biden era.
(1700 lbs in a single bust in Arizona last year broke the previous record.)

But you still don't answer my questions.. where was Biden w stuff unfolded? Hiding behind a desk? Not doing jack? Tryin black people hate white people? Important stuff he was doin But he's not gonna get away with it.

The same problems existed under Trump.

Not at these levels.

Are you kidding me? Did you forget about Charlottesville? Did you forget about the George Floyd protests of 2020?

The question was "Where was Biden when we needed him?" Not "Where were the Charlottesville Police when we needed them?"

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Biden didn't target any children. Biden doesn't target anything. Where
did you get the idea that Biden flies drones?

It was the US military, but who's the Commander in Chief? He's the root cause.

They don't. Children suffer in every war. Why do Republicans get us into so many wars?

Republicans hurt all kinds of people, not just children.

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If China won't let the WHO finish an investigation, I don't see them allowing the USA to start one, so it would likely be a waste.

But would it be a waste of effort to at least try? They said "no" to those losers at the WHO, but we're not the WHO; it's in our best interest to at
least try.

Without asking them about it, it's like seeing someone smash into your car with their car, but you don't bother to ask for their insurance info, because you think they'll say "no."

China's probably not to blame for this, but I suspect that they would (wisely) prefer to keep themselves out of any legal trouble over it (covid) even if
they (the Chinese gov) had nothing to do with it; it happened on their
property (I assume the university is state-owned) and I don't know how int'l law works, but in many stateside jurisdictions you can easily get sued for having someone get injured on your property.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Making sure the American people NEVER know about Covid's origins like a great idea to the Biden administration, so that's what we doing.

Some things aren't possible to know, and investigating them is just a huge waste of money.

More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less important?

The Trump campaign/administration's involvement with Russia was knowable.

Like Texas oil billionaires and the remaining Koch brother, for two examples.

They're not geneerous enough.

No? They funnel billions into Republican campaigns.

I'm talking about the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law & the Build Better Act. They don't do anything to help the 600,000 illegal immigrants that Joe let in, and they don't do anything to stop t problem.

Why would you expect infrastructure packages to help immigrants?

Because 600,000 illegals have arrived at the same time as the ridiculous spending. No infrastructure for them is stupid. When I buy a new cell phone, I buy a new case for it right away. Where's the cases for these 600,000 cellphones?

The infrastructure improvements are to help all people living in America, not just the new arrivals.

Biden has worked out details with Mexico to lessen the problem.

But what happened to "It's inhumane to put immigrants in filthy Mexico?"

Mexico is not filthy. However, the makeshift refugee camps along the border that housed people waiting for news of court decisions from the US were.

My ancestors were immigrants. It's sickening to think that had they
waited till now to migrate, they'd be forced to go to that inhumane
place (Mexico) where rich Americans often take their vacations, all
thanks to Democrat policies.

Again, you're confusing an entire country with unsupported, squalid,
makeshift refugee camps.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I thought "trafficking" refers to forced prostitution?

Apparently not. But you're more than welcome to take that up with Kar Lake, if you'd like.

You should take it up with Kari Lake because you're the one who's been
the most careful not to mix human smugglers with human traffickers while referring to either.

I'm not the one accusing anyone of "forced prostitution."

If they were forced into prostitution while at Martha's Vineyard their own fault; they should KNOW that wealthy Democrat elites a rapists.

And your evidence for this is?

Bill Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, Bill Richardson, every governor NY ever had, Al Franken..

None of those people are rapists.

I have not. "Human trafficking" is not the same as either human smuggling or allowing refugees into the country. Human trafficking involves the non-consensual transportation, sale, and/or exploitation humans.

So then Kari Lake is the confused one?

You'd have to ask her, but putting people on buses while lying about the
buses' destination seems like non-consenstual transportation to me.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

The DNC and RNC both send out fundraising letters and both have coffe so that would seem to be a "yes."

Yea but that's not what George does and that's not what the Sands Casino does. They have specific monkeys that they put their money on.

As is their right, is it not? There are wealthy Republican donors who do the same things.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I don't watch Fox News. Is it possible that you're conflating refugee and illegal immigrants? Or counting the number of encounters rather t the number of successful illegal entries?

I don't conflate much. Next time I see "2 million immigrants" in the
news I'll post about it here and hopefully we'll find out who that # includes.

Good plan. Be sure to post link(s).

Texans should have been given a heads-up that migrants might eat dogs and/or that they might murder them for their jewelry, becau allowed them all to come, knowing that they can't legally work f to buy food. Joe didn't tell anyone to protect their pets or the elderly's jewels, and now this.

Do you have any evidence of dogs being eaten or jewelry being stolen refugees?

We weren't talking about refugees, just "migrants."

Do you have any evidence of "migrants" eating dogs or stealing jewelry? Statistically, immigrants to the US commit less crime than US citizens.

Fox News has the dog eating story: https://tinyurl.com/2m29z5ha

Ah, good old Fox News. That sounds like a rather unreliable source. The
woman, who did not witness any crime, first said that "they" killed the dogs
in order to steal something, and then changes it to "They are like robbing stuff or killing animals to eat."

Do you have any actual witness accounts of this incident?

Fatal jewelry robberies are a common occurrance.

And not just by "migrants."

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far back as 2014. Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the part about being present in 2019, though.

It doesn't matter when the DEA decided to call it a "crisis." The record-breaking seizures of fentanyl are occurring during the Biden era. (1700 lbs in a single bust in Arizona last year broke the previous

And from whom was this fentanyl siezed? Was some refugee caught carrying
1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

Are you kidding me? Did you forget about Charlottesville? Did you for about the George Floyd protests of 2020?

record.)
The question was "Where was Biden when we needed him?" Not "Where were
the Charlottesville Police when we needed them?"

You specifically accused Biden of "making black people hate white people."
The border patrol is making seizures, as you've pointed out. And perhaps the discrepancy in the amount of seizures under Bidan as compared to Trump is due to more effective enforcement. Biden has addressed the opioid crisis (to include fentanyl) several times.

Jeff.

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On 23 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Biden didn't target any children. Biden doesn't target anything. Wher did you get the idea that Biden flies drones?

It was the US military, but who's the Commander in Chief? He's the root cause.

That in no way means that he planned to kill children.

They don't. Children suffer in every war. Why do Republicans get us i so many wars?

Republicans hurt all kinds of people, not just children.

But they do hurt children.

Jeff.

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Like Texas oil billionaires and the remaining Koch brother, for examples.

They're not geneerous enough.

No? They funnel billions into Republican campaigns.

Who did they pour billions into? Not Trump - we're already looked at that
list.

The infrastructure improvements are to help all people living in
America, not just the new arrivals.

But the new arrivals need help more than the American people; that's never
been a secret. They're not employable, they're not background checkable, and the only way they can support themselves is by doing illegal stuff. Honestly, they need leftist handouts more than I do, and I hope the best for them all.

Biden has worked out details with Mexico to lessen the problem.

But what happened to "It's inhumane to put immigrants in filthy Mexic

Mexico is not filthy. However, the makeshift refugee camps along the border that housed people waiting for news of court decisions from the
US were.

Oh ok, so Joe's Mexican refugee camps will be of better quality than Trump's?

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The DNC and RNC both send out fundraising letters and both have so that would seem to be a "yes."

Yea but that's not what George does and that's not what the Sands Cas does. They have specific monkeys that they put their money on.

As is their right, is it not? There are wealthy Republican donors who do the same things.

I don't often pay attention to who donates what, but when we talk about
"donors who skip the candidate and donate directly to the party," I just don't see it. I believe you about the Texas oil companies, but is that just
happening in Texas? Or are they funding Republican DAs in (for example) New York City?

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I don't conflate much. Next time I see "2 million immigrants" in the news I'll post about it here and hopefully we'll find out who that # includes.

Good plan. Be sure to post link(s).

I googled "2 million illegals" and found these (among other articles):

The Texas Tribune: "2 million arrests at the border" https://tinyurl.com/4r39frk2
Source for the #: "senior Biden administration officials"

Axios: "2 million *encounters*"
https://tinyurl.com/2p83j2b2
Source for the #: Customs and Border Protection data

So different media sites are calling it different things, but different departments (the white house and CBP) are producing approximately the same number (2 million.) And if they're getting arrested, it's because they did something illegal, and if arrested by CBP, then it's because they're illegal immigrants.

I could be wrong, but it seems like these "2 million" arrested migrants are in addition to the "600,000+ gotaways" reported by CBP.

Do you have any evidence of "migrants" eating dogs or stealing jewelry? Statistically, immigrants to the US commit less crime than US citizens.

Yes, it's been in the news. I alrady linked to the dog-eating article in another message, here's a link to migrants killing elderly Americans for their jewelry: https://tinyurl.com/32zufzpv

There have been other similar stories (illegal migrants fatally robbing elderly for their jewelry) but there's 11 elderly jewelry murders right there, all from just 1 of Biden's uninvited guests.

Ah, good old Fox News. That sounds like a rather unreliable source. The woman, who did not witness any crime, first said that "they" killed the dogs in order to steal something, and then changes it to "They are like robbing stuff or killing animals to eat."

Do you have any actual witness accounts of this incident?

If you love your pets you will lock your doors.

Fatal jewelry robberies are a common occurrance.

And not just by "migrants."

They have a calling in the jewelry-murder industry because they are here illegally and can't work. When you're stomach rumbles, and you can't work, and murder is easy to get away with where you're from, then how do you feed yourself?

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far back as Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the part a being present in 2019, though.

It doesn't matter when the DEA decided to call it a "crisis." The record-breaking seizures of fentanyl are occurring during the Biden e (1700 lbs in a single bust in Arizona last year broke the previous

And from whom was this fentanyl siezed? Was some refugee caught carrying 1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

We probably have too many conversations going on at once, so you're getting confused; we were talking about "more fentalyl with Joe than Trump."

You specifically accused Biden of "making black people hate white
people." The border patrol is making seizures, as you've pointed out.
And perhaps the discrepancy in the amount of seizures under Bidan as compared to Trump is due to more effective enforcement. Biden has addressed the opioid crisis (to include fentanyl) several times.

How is enforcement more effective now, while CBP is complaining that they don't have enough officers? (It's less effective! That's why all the migrants!)

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Biden didn't target any children. Biden doesn't target anything. did you get the idea that Biden flies drones?

It was the US military, but who's the Commander in Chief? He's the ro cause.

That in no way means that he planned to kill children.

But it correlates with his commitment to abortion; he'll kill em one way or another. (He has promised pro-abortion legislation next year.)

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On 24 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Like Texas oil billionaires and the remaining Koch brother, examples.

They're not geneerous enough.

No? They funnel billions into Republican campaigns.

Who did they pour billions into? Not Trump - we're already looked at that list.

I'm not sure, but here's the list of top donors by election cycle. While
Soros was the top individual donor in the 2022 cycle, there are quite a few Republican donors near the top whose contributions in total are more than Soros'.

The infrastructure improvements are to help all people living in America, not just the new arrivals.

But the new arrivals need help more than the American people; that's
never been a secret. They're not employable, they're not background checkable, and the only way they can support themselves is by doing illegal stuff. Honestly, they need leftist handouts more than I do, and
I hope the best for them all.

They need sponsors, and fortunately there are people and organizations
willing to sponsor them. Jobs are not "infrastructure."

Biden has worked out details with Mexico to lessen the prob

But what happened to "It's inhumane to put immigrants in filthy

Mexico is not filthy. However, the makeshift refugee camps along the border that housed people waiting for news of court decisions from th US were.

Oh ok, so Joe's Mexican refugee camps will be of better quality than Trump's?

They're not "Joe's Mexican regugee camps." They're "Mexico's refugee camps," and they likely won't be along the border in the desert.

Jeff.

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On 24 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

The DNC and RNC both send out fundraising letters and both so that would seem to be a "yes."

Yea but that's not what George does and that's not what the Sand does. They have specific monkeys that they put their money on.

As is their right, is it not? There are wealthy Republican donors who the same things.

I don't often pay attention to who donates what, but when we talk about "donors who skip the candidate and donate directly to the party," I just don't see it. I believe you about the Texas oil companies, but is that just happening in Texas? Or are they funding Republican DAs in (for example) New York City?

That depends. They may donate directly to a candidate, they may donate to a PAC, or they may donate to the party. Given current donation limits, big
donors would max out their donations to individual candidates pretty quickly, so if they wanted to donate more they'd have to choose PACs or the party, to which they can donate virtually unlimited amounts. As I said, though, the RNC does have coffers, so that money has to come from somewhere.

Jeff.

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In this case, it is not possible to know because China won't even allow the WHO to investigate it. I am not aware of Biden saying we'd never investigate it. Aaron seems to think so and I may have missed something.
If China won't let the WHO finish an investigation, I don't see them allowing the USA to start one, so it would likely be a waste.

Plus, think of the precedent it would set. If a pandemic were to start in the US and rumors began in other countries that it was a biological weapon gone awry, how would we feel about WHO or Chinese inspectors demanding access to American research facilities?

My interest would be more along the lines of "if we can figure out how it started, maybe we can stop it from happening again" but, yes, that could
open a Pandora's box.


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Without asking them about it, it's like seeing someone smash into your car wit
their car, but you don't bother to ask for their insurance info, because you think they'll say "no."

Except in that case I would be calling the police and getting what info I could, like a license number, approximate year/make/model, etc.

China's probably not to blame for this, but I suspect that they would (wisely)
prefer to keep themselves out of any legal trouble over it (covid) even if they (the Chinese gov) had nothing to do with it; it happened on their property (I assume the university is state-owned) and I don't know how int'l law works, but in many stateside jurisdictions you can easily get sued for having someone get injured on your property.

I still believe the earlier theories regaring the wet markets are probably
the most likely. If it did happen due to a lab accident, it would be nice
to know, though... not even to point fingers but to research and determine
how to improve lab facilities. I read a recent article about a lab
somewhere on the East Coast that "mixed" the early COVID variant with
Omicron to make one believed even deadlier. If knowing what happened in
the Chinese lab, if it did happen, that caused it to break containment was known, I would feel safer about this other experiment.


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On 24 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I don't conflate much. Next time I see "2 million immigrants" in news I'll post about it here and hopefully we'll find out who th includes.

Good plan. Be sure to post link(s).

I googled "2 million illegals" and found these (among other articles):
The Texas Tribune: "2 million arrests at the border" https://tinyurl.com/4r39frk2
Source for the #: "senior Biden administration officials"

Yeah... Those were unsuccessful attempts, seeing as they were arrested.

Axios: "2 million *encounters*"
https://tinyurl.com/2p83j2b2
Source for the #: Customs and Border Protection data

Again, those were unsuccessful attempts.

So different media sites are calling it different things, but different departments (the white house and CBP) are producing approximately the
same number (2 million.) And if they're getting arrested, it's because they did something illegal, and if arrested by CBP, then it's because they're illegal immigrants.

Being arrested does not mean that one has done something illegal, only that
one is suspected of doing something illegal.

I could be wrong, but it seems like these "2 million" arrested migrants are in addition to the "600,000+ gotaways" reported by CBP.

They could be. But you have to remember that the Border Patrol counts "encounters," not people. If the same guy tries unsuccessfully to cross the border every day for a year, that's 365 encounters, not 365 people.

Do you have any evidence of "migrants" eating dogs or stealing jewelr Statistically, immigrants to the US commit less crime than US citizen

Yes, it's been in the news. I alrady linked to the dog-eating article in another message, here's a link to migrants killing elderly Americans for their jewelry: https://tinyurl.com/32zufzpv
There have been other similar stories (illegal migrants fatally robbing elderly for their jewelry) but there's 11 elderly jewelry murders right there, all from just 1 of Biden's uninvited guests.

The US has its own serial killers, too. I believe two have been captured recently, or maybe one is still at large. We also have mass shootings almost daily. It's unfortunate that this person killed 11 people for their jewelry, but in the bigger picture it's just a drop in the bucket for US murders.

Ah, good old Fox News. That sounds like a rather unreliable source. T woman, who did not witness any crime, first said that "they" killed t dogs in order to steal something, and then changes it to "They are li robbing stuff or killing animals to eat."
Do you have any actual witness accounts of this incident?

If you love your pets you will lock your doors.

Note also that she said that they killed two *dogs* but are eating *animals.* She didn't specifically say that they were eating dogs. They very well could have killed and eaten animals that were being raised specifically to be,
well, killed and eaten.

Fatal jewelry robberies are a common occurrance.

And not just by "migrants."

They have a calling in the jewelry-murder industry because they are here illegally and can't work. When you're stomach rumbles, and you can't
work, and murder is easy to get away with where you're from, then how do you feed yourself?

No, they don't. They actually call attention to themselves personally when
they murder people, which is not something that most of them want to do. (And here we're talking about actual illegal immigrants, not refugees.)

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far bac Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the p being present in 2019, though.

It doesn't matter when the DEA decided to call it a "crisis." Th record-breaking seizures of fentanyl are occurring during the Bi (1700 lbs in a single bust in Arizona last year broke the previo

And from whom was this fentanyl siezed? Was some refugee caught carry 1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

We probably have too many conversations going on at once, so you're getting confused; we were talking about "more fentalyl with Joe than Trump."

We were talking about "more fentanyl with Joe than Trump, due to Joe's border policies." Now, who was carrying this 1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

You specifically accused Biden of "making black people hate white people." The border patrol is making seizures, as you've pointed out. And perhaps the discrepancy in the amount of seizures under Bidan as compared to Trump is due to more effective enforcement. Biden has addressed the opioid crisis (to include fentanyl) several times.

How is enforcement more effective now, while CBP is complaining that
they don't have enough officers? (It's less effective! That's why all
the migrants!)

The CBP was complaining that they didn't have enough officers under Trump,
too. The number of migrants is not reflective of the number of illegal immigrants. The number of refugees coming from Central America may ebb and
flow while the number of non-refugees may be influenced by a completely different set of factors.

And again, most fentanyl entering the US is at legal points of entry, transported by US citizens.

Perhaps the fentany enforcement is more effective because the Border Patrol
has changed some aspect of how they do things.

Jeff.

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On 24 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Biden didn't target any children. Biden doesn't target anyt did you get the idea that Biden flies drones?

It was the US military, but who's the Commander in Chief? He's t cause.

That in no way means that he planned to kill children.

But it correlates with his commitment to abortion; he'll kill em one way or another. (He has promised pro-abortion legislation next year.)

That's ridiculous. Biden didn't plan to kill children. As far as abortion
goes, that should be between a woman and her doctor. There are no plans for mandatory abortion legislation, only legislation to enforce the right of a woman to govern her own body.

Jeff.

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On 10-23-22 15:06, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Jeff Thiele about Re: Breaking News from Ma <=-

Can you read? The DEA reported a fentanyl crisis as far back as 2014. Except you cut that part out, didn't you? You left in the part about it being present in 2019, though.

It doesn't matter when the DEA decided to call it a "crisis." The record-breaking seizures of fentanyl are occurring during the Biden
era. (1700 lbs in a single bust in Arizona last year broke the previous record.)

Perhaps under Biden the DEA has gotten better about catching the drug smugglers?

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On 10-24-22 09:09, Jeff Thiele <=-
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More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less important?

The Trump campaign/administration's involvement with Russia was
knowable.

If your statement was about the Mueller investigation, then it was not expensive. In fact -- it showed a net profit.

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They need sponsors, and fortunately there are people and organizations willing to sponsor them. Jobs are not "infrastructure."

There's no such thing as sponsors for illegal immigrants, unless you count the fact that Democrats "sponsor" them.

Oh ok, so Joe's Mexican refugee camps will be of better quality than Trump's?

They're not "Joe's Mexican regugee camps." They're "Mexico's refugee camps," and they likely won't be along the border in the desert.

So Obrador's rapists from the old refugee camp won't be employed at the new one? And it's safer than ever because it's further into the interior of Mexico?

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That depends. They may donate directly to a candidate, they may donate
to a PAC, or they may donate to the party. Given current donation
limits, big donors would max out their donations to individual
candidates pretty quickly, so if they wanted to donate more they'd have
to choose PACs or the party, to which they can donate virtually
unlimited amounts. As I said, though, the RNC does have coffers, so that money has to come from somewhere.

I understand. And I get why the Texas oil companies support Republicans. But I don't get why they don't start demanding more bang for their buck.

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their car, but you don't bother to ask for their insurance info, because think they'll say "no."

Except in that case I would be calling the police and getting what info I could, like a license number, approximate year/make/model, etc.

Right! But in the case of covid, our "leaders" aren't even doing that, and I can't help but to suspect that the reason for that is because they already
have all the answers, but that it's not convenient for them to share them with us.

probably the most likely. If it did happen due to a lab accident, it would be nice to know, though... not even to point fingers but to
research and determine how to improve lab facilities. I read a recent

Yes! And that would be a more appropriate thing to spend a bunch of money on; find out how it happened, then invest money in the prevention of a repeat.

research and determine how to improve lab facilities. I read a recent article about a lab somewhere on the East Coast that "mixed" the early COVID variant with Omicron to make one believed even deadlier. If
knowing what happened in the Chinese lab, if it did happen, that caused
it to break containment was known, I would feel safer about this other experiment.

Yea if it could be proven to us that it did not come from a lab, then we could have more confidence in this "research." But for now, it sure seems like someone's preparing (inadvertantly or not) to start a new, even deadlier pandemic.

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Axios: "2 million *encounters*"
https://tinyurl.com/2p83j2b2
Source for the #: Customs and Border Protection data

Again, those were unsuccessful attempts.

Ok, so then that just leaves us with the CBP's "600,000 gotaways."

elderly for their jewelry) but there's 11 elderly jewelry murders rig there, all from just 1 of Biden's uninvited guests.

The US has its own serial killers, too. I believe two have been captured recently, or maybe one is still at large. We also have mass shootings

That's another 11 deaths that Joe could have prevented, but I guess he was at the ice cream shop that day.

Note also that she said that they killed two *dogs* but are eating *animals.* She didn't specifically say that they were eating dogs. They very well could have killed and eaten animals that were being raised specifically to be, well, killed and eaten.

Whether the article was a lemon or not, migrants who have been getting robbed and raped by cartel smugglers for several days straight, don't have much money left over to buy lunch once they finally arrive, and they're hungry. When Joe invited them, he should have told them to bring extra sandwiches.

work, and murder is easy to get away with where you're from, then how you feed yourself?

No, they don't. They actually call attention to themselves personally

It's not just food that they need; humans have needs. They didn't walk 2 thousand miles just to starve; the illegal deeds will continue until their needs are met.

We were talking about "more fentanyl with Joe than Trump, due to Joe's border policies." Now, who was carrying this 1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

It doesn't say, but it says that it happened on Dec 14, 2021.

The CBP was complaining that they didn't have enough officers under
Trump, too. The number of migrants is not reflective of the number of illegal immigrants. The number of refugees coming from Central America
may ebb and flow while the number of non-refugees may be influenced by a completely different set of factors.

CBP officers have also complained that they can't catch illegals when they're so busy with pulling bodies out of the river and/or assisting refugees.

And again, most fentanyl entering the US is at legal points of entry, transported by US citizens.

Not much is known about "most fentanyl entering the US," but much is imagined.

Did you mean "most fentanyl confiscated?"

Perhaps the fentany enforcement is more effective because the Border Patrol has changed some aspect of how they do things.

Maybe, but anything is better than a conservative being right about something.

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That's ridiculous. Biden didn't plan to kill children. As far as abortion goes, that should be between a woman and her doctor. There are no plans for mandatory abortion legislation, only legislation to enforce the
right of a woman to govern her own body.

Sure, Biden's murders weren't pre-meditated; he carried them out in the heat
of the moment, in each and every instance. Is 2nd degree murder considered "bad" by leftists?

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Perhaps under Biden the DEA has gotten better about catching the drug smugglers?

Perhaps, but it's funny how Jeff came up with the same theory. You guys are definitely watching the same channel.

In reality though, what has Joe done to strengthen the DEA or any other police force? (Nothin!)

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More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less important?

The Trump campaign/administration's involvement with Russia was knowable.

If your statement was about the Mueller investigation, then it was not expensive. In fact -- it showed a net profit.

If you cherry pick your facts, then I bet it did show a "net profit."

But how profitable is it to have 535 members of congress working on
"destroy Trump" for 7 straight years instead of repairing our immigration system and/or preparing for the next pandemic?

We shouldn't call them "congress" anymore; we should call them "Trump prosecutors." Maybe when I grow up I'll become a Trump prosecutor. ;)

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

They need sponsors, and fortunately there are people and organization willing to sponsor them. Jobs are not "infrastructure."

There's no such thing as sponsors for illegal immigrants, unless you
count the fact that Democrats "sponsor" them.

No, there are not. But there are sponsors for refugees.

Oh ok, so Joe's Mexican refugee camps will be of better quality Trump's?

They're not "Joe's Mexican regugee camps." They're "Mexico's refugee camps," and they likely won't be along the border in the desert.

So Obrador's rapists from the old refugee camp won't be employed at the new one? And it's safer than ever because it's further into the interior of Mexico?

They're not "Obrador's rapists." And yes, the refugees who are turned away
will have better access to the things they need.

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

That depends. They may donate directly to a candidate, they may donat to a PAC, or they may donate to the party. Given current donation limits, big donors would max out their donations to individual candidates pretty quickly, so if they wanted to donate more they'd ha to choose PACs or the party, to which they can donate virtually unlimited amounts. As I said, though, the RNC does have coffers, so t money has to come from somewhere.

I understand. And I get why the Texas oil companies support Republicans. But I don't get why they don't start demanding more bang for their buck.

Because the would be saying the quiet part out loud: political contributions are a form of bribery.

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

their car, but you don't bother to ask for their insurance info, be think they'll say "no."

Except in that case I would be calling the police and getting what in could, like a license number, approximate year/make/model, etc.

Right! But in the case of covid, our "leaders" aren't even doing that,
and I can't help but to suspect that the reason for that is because they already have all the answers, but that it's not convenient for them to share them with us.

That is an unsupported claim, at best.

probably the most likely. If it did happen due to a lab accident, it would be nice to know, though... not even to point fingers but to research and determine how to improve lab facilities. I read a recen

Yes! And that would be a more appropriate thing to spend a bunch of
money on; find out how it happened, then invest money in the prevention
of a repeat.

Are you suggesting that if it were found to b the fault of a Chinese lab,
then the proper solution would be pouring American money into Chinese labs?

research and determine how to improve lab facilities. I read a recen article about a lab somewhere on the East Coast that "mixed" the earl COVID variant with Omicron to make one believed even deadlier. If knowing what happened in the Chinese lab, if it did happen, that caus it to break containment was known, I would feel safer about this othe experiment.

Yea if it could be proven to us that it did not come from a lab, then we could have more confidence in this "research." But for now, it sure
seems like someone's preparing (inadvertantly or not) to start a new,
even deadlier pandemic.

That is another unsubstantiated claim.

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Axios: "2 million *encounters*"
https://tinyurl.com/2p83j2b2
Source for the #: Customs and Border Protection data

Again, those were unsuccessful attempts.

Ok, so then that just leaves us with the CBP's "600,000 gotaways."

Perhaps, depending on how reliable that number is. Elsewhere, you've touted
an estimate of 1,000/day, which is only 365,000/year.

elderly for their jewelry) but there's 11 elderly jewelry murder there, all from just 1 of Biden's uninvited guests.

The US has its own serial killers, too. I believe two have been captu recently, or maybe one is still at large. We also have mass shootings

That's another 11 deaths that Joe could have prevented, but I guess he
was at the ice cream shop that day.

There are murderers among us. The best we can do is to catch them and hold
them accountable for their crimes.

Note also that she said that they killed two *dogs* but are eating *animals.* She didn't specifically say that they were eating dogs. Th very well could have killed and eaten animals that were being raised specifically to be, well, killed and eaten.

Whether the article was a lemon or not, migrants who have been getting robbed and raped by cartel smugglers for several days straight, don't
have much money left over to buy lunch once they finally arrive, and they're hungry. When Joe invited them, he should have told them to bring extra sandwiches.

So now we're talking about refugees again? Refugees have a support system.

work, and murder is easy to get away with where you're from, the you feed yourself?

No, they don't. They actually call attention to themselves personally

It's not just food that they need; humans have needs. They didn't walk 2 thousand miles just to starve; the illegal deeds will continue until
their needs are met.

Perhaps that need is work, as it has been for well over a century.

We were talking about "more fentanyl with Joe than Trump, due to Joe' border policies." Now, who was carrying this 1700 lbs. of fentanyl?

It doesn't say, but it says that it happened on Dec 14, 2021.

The date is irrelevant. That amount of anything cannot be carried by one
person without a vehicle.

The CBP was complaining that they didn't have enough officers under Trump, too. The number of migrants is not reflective of the number of illegal immigrants. The number of refugees coming from Central Americ may ebb and flow while the number of non-refugees may be influenced b completely different set of factors.

CBP officers have also complained that they can't catch illegals when they're so busy with pulling bodies out of the river and/or assisting refugees.

The refugees will wait as long as necessary, and there aren't *that* many bodies being pulled out of the river.

And again, most fentanyl entering the US is at legal points of entry, transported by US citizens.

Not much is known about "most fentanyl entering the US," but much is imagined.

Around 85% of the seizures are at legal points of entry, being transported by US citizens.

Did you mean "most fentanyl confiscated?"

It would seem reasonable that confiscations are a measure of flow.

Perhaps the fentany enforcement is more effective because the Border Patrol has changed some aspect of how they do things.

Maybe, but anything is better than a conservative being right about something.

Anything is better than a conservative thinking they're right about something that they have no facts about.

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

That's ridiculous. Biden didn't plan to kill children. As far as abor goes, that should be between a woman and her doctor. There are no pla for mandatory abortion legislation, only legislation to enforce the right of a woman to govern her own body.

Sure, Biden's murders weren't pre-meditated; he carried them out in the heat of the moment, in each and every instance. Is 2nd degree murder considered "bad" by leftists?

How many 2nd-degree murders did Trump commit? Should he be held accountable
for those?

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

In reality though, what has Joe done to strengthen the DEA or any other police force? (Nothin!)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/09/23/fact-sh eet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-actions-and-funding-to-address-th e-overdose-epidemic-and-support-recovery/
(https://tinyurl.com/yc7uejwc)

Jeff.

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On 25 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less important?

The Trump campaign/administration's involvement with Russia was knowable.

If your statement was about the Mueller investigation, then it was no expensive. In fact -- it showed a net profit.

But how profitable is it to have 535 members of congress working on "destroy Trump" for 7 straight years instead of repairing our immigration system and/or preparing for the next pandemic?

Are you certain that *535* members of Congress were working on "destroy
Trump" for 7 straight years? That "fact" seems a little fishy.

Jeff.

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Hello Jeff,

More expensive than the Trump investigation? And less

important?

The Trump campaign/administration's involvement with Russia

was

knowable.

If your statement was about the Mueller investigation, then it

was no

expensive. In fact -- it showed a net profit.

But how profitable is it to have 535 members of congress working on
"destroy Trump" for 7 straight years instead of repairing our

immigration

system and/or preparing for the next pandemic?

Are you certain that *535* members of Congress were working on "destroy Trump" for 7 straight years? That "fact" seems a little fishy.

Not at all.
Do the math.
We can have only 1 president at a time.
There are 535 members of congress.
All of them wanting to be president.
Along with 50 governors.
And a countless number of mayors.
Not to mention all members of the cabinet.
And who knows how many rich billionaires?

Like the Highlander said, "There can be only one!"

So.

Let the games begin!

For Life,
Lee

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Hello Jeff,

That's ridiculous. Biden didn't plan to kill children. As far as

abor

goes, that should be between a woman and her doctor. There are

no pla

for mandatory abortion legislation, only legislation to enforce

the

right of a woman to govern her own body.

Sure, Biden's murders weren't pre-meditated; he carried them out in

the

heat of the moment, in each and every instance. Is 2nd degree murder
considered "bad" by leftists?

How many 2nd-degree murders did Trump commit?

400,000+ murders, all due to COVID-19.

Should he be held accountable for those?

Yes.

Life sentence.
For each count.
Hope he outlives his sentences.

Thus setting a new Guinness World Record.

For Life,
Lee

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their car, but you don't bother to ask for their insurance info, becaus
think they'll say "no."

Except in that case I would be calling the police and getting what info I
could, like a license number, approximate year/make/model, etc.

Right! But in the case of covid, our "leaders" aren't even doing that, and I can't help but to suspect that the reason for that is because they already have all the answers, but that it's not convenient for them to share them with
us.

Or they are afraid of China or are, as Jeff has suggested, afraid of who
might want to come snoop around in the USA later.

I suspect it is a mixture of the two... assuming they can think as far
ahead as Jeff. Otherwise, it is probably the first one.

Yea if it could be proven to us that it did not come from a lab, then we could
have more confidence in this "research." But for now, it sure seems like someone's preparing (inadvertantly or not) to start a new, even deadlier pandemic.

They do research like that in order to get out ahead of viruses, I know,
but that sounds a lot like a gain of function that could cause a problem
later. The articles I have seen/heard about it do not mention their
purpose for doing it, which leaves on to assume whatever they might...
which is dangerous. If "why" is a secret, it is probably better not to
tell us the "what," either.


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What's the leftists' plan for 600,000 people who lack the legal right to support themselves and their families? We're throwing gas & diesel school
buses in the trash, but those buses could be used to transport the migrants better than making them walk. If I were you, I would urge the other coldies to start providing a bus shuttle service to start picking them up at least at 2 stops: 1 in Panama & 1 in Mexico. That way we prevent a lot of deaths and a
lot of robberies. Ask all your leftist friends why they prefer to have their migrants walk the trail of death.

So Obrador's rapists from the old refugee camp won't be employed at t new one? And it's safer than ever because it's further into the inter of Mexico?

They're not "Obrador's rapists." And yes, the refugees who are turned
away will have better access to the things they need.

You said Obrador's migrant camps were "inhumane," but you've never even been there. Now, you, the expert on migrant camps, are declaring this new facility "safe," and you've never been there either. That's careless. Did the media
tell you that they were unsafe during the Trump admin? And now they're telling you their safe? Obrador was president then and he's president now. You're sick with devotion to the Biden Regime.

Suppose I'm a Venezuelan migrant, who's been racistly targeted by the Biden Administration and forced to stay in Mexico to wait for asylum processing, and while I was there, they raped me, robbed me, and didn't give me any food. What number do I call to complain? And how will my issues be resolved? How much
can I sue the US gov for? And why target Venezuelans? We take 25,000 refugees from around the world in a single year, so why turn our backs on a modest quantity of Venezuelans?

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Because the would be saying the quiet part out loud: political contributions are a form of bribery.

Biden's ultra-liberal policies are not evidence of him being "ultra-liberal."

It's evidence of him taking bribes. He's got nothing to gain with all this liberal stuff, other than bribes. He looks bad, his family looks bad, he makes his party look bad, he ruined the country. Why do all this bad stuff for no reason? He's not some kind of anarchist - he's taking bribes.

"Evidence?" Of course I don't have evidence. I hope someone does though!

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Yes! And that would be a more appropriate thing to spend a bunch of money on; find out how it happened, then invest money in the preventi of a repeat.

Are you suggesting that if it were found to b the fault of a Chinese lab, then the proper solution would be pouring American money into Chinese labs?

No, just find out how it happened the best you can, and then try like hell to make sure it never happens again, based on the information you got from your investigation. Whether the Chinese cooperate or not, we should "investigate" the best we can. But nah, because the Joe Regime doesn't want the poor people to know the truth.

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There are murderers among us. The best we can do is to catch them and
hold them accountable for their crimes.

Yea, it would be dumb to try to stop any of the crime, because we can try to capitalize on votes from all the crime victims later.

Whether the article was a lemon or not, migrants who have been gettin robbed and raped by cartel smugglers for several days straight, don't have much money left over to buy lunch once they finally arrive, and they're hungry. When Joe invited them, he should have told them to br extra sandwiches.

So now we're talking about refugees again? Refugees have a support
system.

No. Not refugees. Illegals. Why do you conflate them so much? Do you think illegals have more money in their pockets than refugees?

It's not just food that they need; humans have needs. They didn't wal thousand miles just to starve; the illegal deeds will continue until their needs are met.

Perhaps that need is work, as it has been for well over a century.

Illegals are not eligible for employment. They're eligible for deportation.

We were talking about "more fentanyl with Joe than Trump, due to border policies." Now, who was carrying this 1700 lbs. of fentan

It doesn't say, but it says that it happened on Dec 14, 2021.

The date is irrelevant. That amount of anything cannot be carried by one person without a vehicle.

The date is relevant to who's border policies were in effect at the time of
the bust. Whether it crossed by person or by vehicle, it crossed illegally.

CBP officers have also complained that they can't catch illegals when they're so busy with pulling bodies out of the river and/or assisting refugees.

The refugees will wait as long as necessary, and there aren't *that* many bodies being pulled out of the river.

You're addicted to weasel words. The news says that mortuaries in the Rio Grande Valley are full of drowning victims.

Not much is known about "most fentanyl entering the US," but much is imagined.

Around 85% of the seizures are at legal points of entry, being
transported by US citizens.

It doesn't matter, it's still a border problem. Give CBP the wall they've been asking for.

Anything is better than a conservative thinking they're right about something that they have no facts about.

Right, so how safe did you feel when you slept at Joe's new Mexican
"rape-free" migrant camp?

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How many 2nd-degree murders did Trump commit? Should he be held accountable for those?

Not as many as Joe!

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In reality though, what has Joe done to strengthen the DEA or any oth police force? (Nothin!)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/09/23/fa eet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-actions-and-funding-to-addre e-overdose-epidemic-and-support-recovery/
(https://tinyurl.com/yc7uejwc)

This was announced just a few weeks ago. The question was, and still is, where were Biden & Kamala when the police needed them? Why did they bail violent criminals out of jail while campaigning for the 2020 election? They weren't helping police when the official slogan for Democrats was "Defund the Police."

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Are you certain that *535* members of Congress were working on "destroy Trump" for 7 straight years? That "fact" seems a little fishy.

Maybe around 224 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

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Or they are afraid of China or are, as Jeff has suggested, afraid of who might want to come snoop around in the USA later.

I suspect it is a mixture of the two... assuming they can think as far ahead as Jeff. Otherwise, it is probably the first one.

I hope you're right about that. I feel misled by just about every Democrat and by many Democrat supporters.

They do research like that in order to get out ahead of viruses, I know, but that sounds a lot like a gain of function that could cause a problem later. The articles I have seen/heard about it do not mention their purpose for doing it, which leaves on to assume whatever they might... which is dangerous. If "why" is a secret, it is probably better not to tell us the "what," either.

Unless that research is for development of a real vaccine for covid, which it sounds like it's not, then I'd prefer that they discontinue it. (It shouldn't be allowed in that case.)

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On 10-25-22 12:49, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Breaking News from M <=-

If your statement was about the Mueller investigation, then it was not expensive. In fact -- it showed a net profit.

If you cherry pick your facts, then I bet it did show a "net profit."

No cherry picking needed. Simply subtract the direct cost from the
amount recovered by forfeits and finesin the cases where charges were
brought. The result is positive.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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On 10-25-22 01:22, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Jeff Thiele about Re: Breaking News from Ma <=-

They need sponsors, and fortunately there are people and organizations willing to sponsor them. Jobs are not "infrastructure."

There's no such thing as sponsors for illegal immigrants, unless you
count the fact that Democrats "sponsor" them.

Of course there are no sponsors for illegal immigrants. They are
deported as soon as they are apprehended. It is refugee asylum seekers
who get sponsors.

Dale Shipp
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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

What's the leftists' plan for 600,000 people who lack the legal right to support themselves and their families?

If you're referring to illegal immigrants, and not refugees, then they will probably find work in the agriculture, hospitality, and construction industries, as they have for decades now.

We're throwing gas & diesel school
buses in the trash, but those buses could be used to transport the migrants better than making them walk. If I were you, I would urge the other coldies to start providing a bus shuttle service to start picking them up at least at 2 stops: 1 in Panama & 1 in Mexico. That way we prevent a lot of deaths and a lot of robberies. Ask all your leftist friends why they prefer to have their migrants walk the trail of death.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything.

You said Obrador's migrant camps were "inhumane," but you've never even been there. Now, you, the expert on migrant camps, are declaring this
new facility "safe," and you've never been there either. That's
careless. Did the media tell you that they were unsafe during the Trump admin? And now they're telling you their safe? Obrador was president
then and he's president now. You're sick with devotion to the Biden Regime.

They were not, and are not, "Obrador's migrant camps."

Suppose I'm a Venezuelan migrant, who's been racistly targeted by the Biden Administration and forced to stay in Mexico to wait for asylum processing,

Waiting in Mexico for asylum processing was Trump's plan, not Biden's. Venezuelans are not being told to wait; they are being turned away entirely.

processing, and while I was there, they raped me, robbed me, and didn't give me any food. What number do I call to complain? And how will my issues be resolved? How much can I sue the US gov for? And why target Venezuelans? We take 25,000 refugees from around the world in a single year, so why turn our backs on a modest quantity of Venezuelans?

I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but 25,000 is the number of Venezuelans we've agreed to take in per year.

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Because the would be saying the quiet part out loud: political contributions are a form of bribery.

Biden's ultra-liberal policies are not evidence of him being "ultra-liberal."
It's evidence of him taking bribes. He's got nothing to gain with all
this liberal stuff, other than bribes. He looks bad, his family looks
bad, he makes his party look bad, he ruined the country. Why do all this bad stuff for no reason? He's not some kind of anarchist - he's taking bribes.

Ah, so now Biden's taking bribes, is he? I don't suppose you have any actual evidence to back up that accusation...

"Evidence?" Of course I don't have evidence. I hope someone does though!

And there we go. You're making up accusations.

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Yes! And that would be a more appropriate thing to spend a bunch money on; find out how it happened, then invest money in the pre of a repeat.

Are you suggesting that if it were found to b the fault of a Chinese then the proper solution would be pouring American money into Chinese labs?

No, just find out how it happened the best you can, and then try like
hell to make sure it never happens again, based on the information you
got from your investigation. Whether the Chinese cooperate or not, we should "investigate" the best we can. But nah, because the Joe Regime doesn't want the poor people to know the truth.

The notion that the virus escaped a Chinese lab is nothing but an unfounded conspiracy theory.

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

There are murderers among us. The best we can do is to catch them and hold them accountable for their crimes.

Yea, it would be dumb to try to stop any of the crime, because we can
try to capitalize on votes from all the crime victims later.

We do capture and deport illegal immigrants. To get them all would be cripplingly expensive due to the law of diminishing returns.

Whether the article was a lemon or not, migrants who have been g robbed and raped by cartel smugglers for several days straight, have much money left over to buy lunch once they finally arrive, they're hungry. When Joe invited them, he should have told them extra sandwiches.

So now we're talking about refugees again? Refugees have a support system.

No. Not refugees. Illegals. Why do you conflate them so much? Do you
think illegals have more money in their pockets than refugees?

Biden certainly didn't "invite" illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are
able to work. Not legally, of course, but there is a demand for their labor.

It's not just food that they need; humans have needs. They didn' thousand miles just to starve; the illegal deeds will continue u their needs are met.

Illegals are not eligible for employment. They're eligible for deportation.

They cannot work legally, but that does not mean that a market for their
labor doesn't exist.

We were talking about "more fentanyl with Joe than Trump, d border policies." Now, who was carrying this 1700 lbs. of f

It doesn't say, but it says that it happened on Dec 14, 2021.

The date is irrelevant. That amount of anything cannot be carried by person without a vehicle.

The date is relevant to who's border policies were in effect at the time of the bust. Whether it crossed by person or by vehicle, it crossed illegally.

No, it didn't. It got busted. Just as fentanyl shipments did under Trump.
And, under Trump, a lot of fentanyl made it in, too.

CBP officers have also complained that they can't catch illegals they're so busy with pulling bodies out of the river and/or assi refugees.

The refugees will wait as long as necessary, and there aren't *that* bodies being pulled out of the river.

You're addicted to weasel words. The news says that mortuaries in the Rio Grande Valley are full of drowning victims.

What news?

Not much is known about "most fentanyl entering the US," but muc imagined.

Around 85% of the seizures are at legal points of entry, being transported by US citizens.

It doesn't matter, it's still a border problem. Give CBP the wall
they've been asking for.

A wall won't stop fentanyl from crossing the border at legal points of entry, transported by US citizens. Gov. Abbott tried increased inspections of
incoming traffic, but it was a failure. It pretty much shut down US/Mexico commerce for the better part of a day before it was abandoned.

Abbott has also tried deploying tens of thousands of Texas law enforcement officers and National Guard members to the border. It apparently did not make much of a difference.

Anything is better than a conservative thinking they're right about something that they have no facts about.

Right, so how safe did you feel when you slept at Joe's new Mexican "rape-free" migrant camp?

A refugee camp near an urban center would have numerous advantages over one situated in a desert populated by small towns.

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

How many 2nd-degree murders did Trump commit? Should he be held accountable for those?

Not as many as Joe!

How can you be so sure?

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

In reality though, what has Joe done to strengthen the DEA or an police force? (Nothin!)

This was announced just a few weeks ago.

You asked what had been done.

The question was, and still is,
where were Biden & Kamala when the police needed them?

The Biden administration supports lawful law enforcement.

Why did they bail
violent criminals out of jail while campaigning for the 2020 election?

I'm not aware of Biden and Harris bailing violent criminals out of jail
while campaigning for the 2020 election.

They weren't helping police when the official slogan for Democrats was "Defund the Police."

The official slogan of the Democrat party was never "Defund the Police."

Jeff.

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On 26 Oct 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Are you certain that *535* members of Congress were working on "destr Trump" for 7 straight years? That "fact" seems a little fishy.

Maybe around 224 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

That sounds a little more plausible, if vague and unsupported.

Jeff.

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9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who can

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless you been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric help.

God gave most people a BS-detector, but everyone has different deficiencies.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer money into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on the things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few exceptions executive order that were a bit shady).

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

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Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

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The GOP apparently also does not do enough donating to the campaigns of weak Democrats in primaries to make sure they can beat them in November. They are probably smart enough to know that doesn't work, unlike the Democrats who do so and then act surprised when they lose to the far-right candidate they (and likely people like Soros) donated to.

Right! The GOP would need to have "all the money in the world" in order to spend it on stuff like that.

But unfortunately, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the RNC.

... The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously.

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
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9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who can

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless you been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric help.

God gave most people a BS-detector, but everyone has different deficiencies.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer money into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on the things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few exceptions executive order that were a bit shady).

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)

Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)

The GOP apparently also does not do enough donating to the campaigns of weak Democrats in primaries to make sure they can beat them in November. They are probably smart enough to know that doesn't work, unlike the Democrats who do so and then act surprised when they lose to the far-right candidate they (and likely people like Soros) donated to.

Right! The GOP would need to have "all the money in the world" in order to spend it on stuff like that.

But unfortunately, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the RNC.

... The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously.

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)

9/11 and COVID-19 were not leftist/Democrat conspiracies. As for who can

That's the official word from the white house, I'm sure.

You don't know the will of God any more than the next guy does. Unless you been talking with God, in which case I recommend getting psychiatric help.

God gave most people a BS-detector, but everyone has different deficiencies.

Trump did his share of spending taxpayer money, and also the RNC (read "Republican donors") are footing all of his legal bills, which is why candidates aren't getting the support that they need.

Now you're making excuses for the RNC idiots who throw elections? That seems appropriate! They help your people more than they help mine!

My party don't have the money it needs because we don't have a fat hungarian sugar daddy to pay for everything.

You seem to think that politicians are somehow able to put taxpayer money into their own pockets. It's not. Taxpayer money is usually spent on the things for which it is allocated by Congress (Trump made a few exceptions executive order that were a bit shady).

Trillions of dollars later, where did it all go? I don't see jack!

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)

Actually, the same could be said of conservatives and Biden. However, the reason leftists don't want Trump in power is that he's corrupt and has no respect for the Constitution or American law. Plus, he's a buffoon and reflects very badly on the US internationally.

Hilarious! Show me the corruption? What's more corrupt than jump-starting the human trafficking industry?

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)

The GOP apparently also does not do enough donating to the campaigns of weak Democrats in primaries to make sure they can beat them in November. They are probably smart enough to know that doesn't work, unlike the Democrats who do so and then act surprised when they lose to the far-right candidate they (and likely people like Soros) donated to.

Right! The GOP would need to have "all the money in the world" in order to spend it on stuff like that.

But unfortunately, "all the money in the world" isn't being donated to the RNC.

... The absence of alternatives clears the mind marvelously.

--- Renegade v1.30/DOS
* Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525.1)