Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

It needs to be updated ... badly ... for at least a decade.

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Hi Ward,

On 2024-08-24 19:31:56, you wrote to All:

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

Nobody is in "control" of WikiPedia pages! Everybody can edit them. There is an "Edit" option you can click in the right upper corner of every page.

It needs to be updated ... badly ... for at least a decade.

So go ahead! ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Ward Dossche -> All skrev 2024-08-24 19:31:

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

We all do. That's the beauty of it. I've for instance have made some adjustments regarding FidoNews.

I just, a couple of months ago, was congratulated for doing my 100th contribution. Most on the Swedish part, but also many Swedish related words on the English part.

If you would like me to update anything specific, just drop me a line, and I'll be happy to oblige.


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On 24 Aug 24 19:31:56, Ward Dossche said the following to All:

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

It needs to be updated ... badly ... for at least a decade.

You can submit content updates but are subject to "discussion" by others.

Which if you study the Talk section history, can turn into the same babbling techno-nonsense as what happens here sometimes, and nothing gets accomplished.

Nick

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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

To paraphrase former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura:

I'm 76 years old now, so the window is closing. I want to be alive to see the first woman President of the United States of America.

Ahhhhhh, to "paraphrase" him, eh?

In other words, he didn't *actually* *say* the words above. You did.

A good follow-on question would be: How many people (American or
otherwise) do you think actually give a shit about what a wanker like
Jesse Ventura thinks about politics?

That's right! About 3, which includes you.

Go pay for somebody else's gall-bladder removal, commie-wannabe.



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A good follow-on question would be: How many people (American or otherwise) do you think actually give a shit about what a wanker like
Jesse Ventura thinks about politics?

That's right! About 3, which includes you.

4 ... me too.

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Hi Ward,

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

With or without login, anyone can edit an article, Ward.


A reveure!!
Enric



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Enric,

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

With or without login, anyone can edit an article, Ward.

I know shit about that, which was why I am asking.

Strange concept, isn't it?

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Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2024-08-24 22:50:

How many people (American or
otherwise) do you think actually give a shit about what a wanker like Jesse Ventura thinks about politics?

Magnitudes more than who gives a shit about what a misogynic wanker like you thinks. About anything.


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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

A good follow-on question would be: How many people (American or otherwise) do you think actually give a shit about what a wanker like Jesse Ventura thinks about politics?

That's right! About 3, which includes you.

4 ... me too.

Oh. What a surprise. Another Marxist obsessed with USA business, who
thinks he knows more about the USA than those who live here.
Pffffftttt.


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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

How many people (American or
otherwise) do you think actually give a shit about what a wanker like Jesse Ventura thinks about politics?

Magnitudes more than who gives a shit about what a misogynic wanker like you thinks. About anything.

Wow, you are even more stupid than I thought. Your little brain
immediately labels me "misogynic" because you think I distrust women and that's why I don't want Kumala Harris to be President. It doesn't occur
to you that I don't want her to be President because of her *policies*
(or lack thereof). Right? What a simpleton.

To paraphrase former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura:

I'm 76 years old now, so the window is closing. I want to be alive to see the first woman President of the United States of America.

Instead of "paraphrasing" him, how about you provide an ACTUAL QUOTE of
what he actually said, with a link/reference/citation to allow
verification of that statement. Can you do that? Or, like most libtards/commies, you feel you can just make any outrageous claims you
like without any proof?

Come on, put your money where your mouth is, and don't be like a USA
Democrat.



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Hey Dan,

That's right! About 3, which includes you.

4 ... me too.

Oh. What a surprise. Another Marxist obsessed with USA business, who thinks he knows more about the USA than those who live here.
Pffffftttt.

Probably I do know more about it than 99% of those who live there.

About the remaining 1% we can have a discussion, but probably you're not part of that 1%.

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Ward Dossche -> Dan Clough skrev 2024-08-25 13:15:

Probably I do know more about it than 99% of those who live there.

Haven't we heard this reasoning before, but about language understanding?

"How dare you tell me what it means, it's my native tongue?" to you and Michiel, who both have a much better grip on the English language than almost all Fidonet participants (except, of course, the excellent David Rance).

I would never claim to know so much about Swedish and Sweden just because I was born and live here. I know perfectly well that we, like every other country, have a lot of ignoramuses.

In the US, only an average of 3% know how many freedoms and what they are, listed in their sacred 1st amendment.

In the US, only an average of 35% of citizens by birth would pass the citizen test. 91% of immigrants pass the test the first time, and 7% more the second time (after that, there are no more tries).

In the US, half of the voters have still, after nine years, not seen that the Orange Emperor has no clothes.

I rest my case.



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Re: Wikipedia
By: Bj”rn Felten to Ward Dossche on Mon Aug 26 2024 01:39 am

Ward Dossche -> Dan Clough skrev 2024-08-25 13:15:

Probably I do know more about it than 99% of those who live there.

Haven't we heard this reasoning before, but about language understanding?

"How dare you tell me what it means, it's my native tongue?" to you and Michiel, who both have a much better grip on the English language than almos all Fidonet participants (except, of course, the excellent David Rance).

I would never claim to know so much about Swedish and Sweden just because was born and live here. I know perfectly well that we, like every other country, have a lot of ignoramuses.

In the US, only an average of 3% know how many freedoms and what they are listed in their sacred 1st amendment.

In the US, only an average of 35% of citizens by birth would pass the citizen test. 91% of immigrants pass the test the first time, and 7% more th second time (after that, there are no more tries).

In the US, half of the voters have still, after nine years, not seen that the Orange Emperor has no clothes.

I rest my case.

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Catching up but I like the tagline! Just not the candidate.
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Bj”rn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

Ward Dossche -> Dan Clough skrev 2024-08-25 13:15:

Probably I do know more about it than 99% of those who live there.

Haven't we heard this reasoning before, but about language understanding?

<SNIP a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, and outright lies>

I rest my case.

You don't have a case. You're full of shit.

To paraphrase former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura:

Yeah.... "paraphrase".... Try using some actual citations/quotes of
things that people actually *SAY*, not what your addled little brain
wishes they'd say.



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Hi Ward,

I know shit about that, which was why I am asking.

What do you think is necessary to modify in the Fido page at Wikipedia?

Strange concept, isn't it?

We live in strange times... ;-)


A reveure!!
Enric

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On 25 Aug 24 22:17:00, Dan Clough said the following to Bj”Rn Felten:

To paraphrase former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura:

Yeah.... "paraphrase".... Try using some actual citations/quotes of things that people actually *SAY*, not what your addled little brain wishes they'd say.

The gender-card strawman happened before when it was shoved down our throats that Hillary was going to win by a landslide... well, "its her turn".

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Carol,

I'm 76 years old now, so the window is closing. I want to be alive
to see first woman President of the United States of America.

Catching up but I like the tagline! Just not the candidate.

Women in the USA have now the greatest opportunity ever to elect a female president ... ever. If all the women would unite and say "this is the person we want to elect" then that person becames the President.

I'm not talking about Democrats or Republicans, I'm not talking about left or right.

Women generally "care", they take charge of the household and the USA are about the biggest household by itself.

A female president would be the greatest shake-up of US=society which by any definition in the book is a male bastion.

I can't even understand why a woman would consider a convicted felon, a rapist, a cheat, a liar, a person who denigrates women, a game-show celebrity star with Nazi-traits (after I'm elected there will be no need for further elections).

Reading John Bolton's "The Room where it all happened" should be a requirement for any voter (John Bolton was a Trump-supporter from day-1 and became National Security Advisor until he decided he couldn't take it anymore) or that other book "Fear" by Bob Woodward... Remember January 6th 2021, remember the unfounded claims about rigged voting, remember the more than 80 law suits which he all lost ... how could anyone in their right mind vote for such a person?

Nahhhh ... but I don't like Harris because 'her choice of clothing', or 'her hair could be better" or "Now what kind of woman would use that kind of lipstick" ... So I'll vote for Trump. Really? ??

That's the reason why Hillary Rodham lost in 2016 ... America's women gossiping about the only woman who ever got that far. The fact that she is brilliant doesn't matter ... the fact that she decided her adultering husband deserved a second chance doesn't matter ... and she encountered a bully.

Sorry, Carol, elect someone for the right reasons, not for the wrong ones...

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Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2024-08-26 05:17:

<SNIP a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, and outright lies>

How predictable.

Stable Genius when presented with awkward facts: FAKE NEWS!

And then, weiter mit den obligatorischen Beleidigungen...



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Ward Dossche -> Carol Shenkenberger skrev 2024-08-26 11:17:

Nahhhh ... but I don't like Harris because 'her choice of clothing', or 'her hair could be better" or "Now what kind of woman would use that
kind of lipstick" ... So I'll vote for Trump. Really? ??

Not to mention 'she laughs too much and weirdly' or 'crazy many thank you, thank you, thank you', albeit those are not women-specific excuses.



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Ward Dossche wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

I can't even understand why a woman would consider a convicted felon, a rapist, a cheat, a liar, a person who denigrates women, a game-show celebrity star with Nazi-traits (after I'm elected there will be no
need for further elections).

That's the ultimate question. Reproductive rights? Go to the bible belt
in the midwest US and democrats are painted as baby-killers. The fact
that the US mainstream media isn't challenging the "post-birth abortion"
line of the republicans (and it's being absorbed into the republican
zeitgeist) says as much about the bias of the media as it does the
gullibility of the republicn party.

(Hint: "Post-birth abortion" is illegal. It's called "murder".)




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Re: Re: Wikipedia
By: Atreyu to Ward Dossche on Sat Aug 24 2024 02:59 pm

Does anybody have any clue who controls the Fidonet WikiPedia page?

It needs to be updated ... badly ... for at least a decade.

You can submit content updates but are subject to "discussion" by others.

Which if you study the Talk section history, can turn into the same babbling techno-nonsense as what happens here sometimes, and nothing gets accomplished.

Yeah, there's a reason I stopped contributing to Wikipedia long, long ago.

Even with well sourced, factual contirbutions a slew of "editors" jumped in and reverted the changes with no explanation over and over again.

I had contributed to the LaTeX page a few times, and got a messages from a few different people asking me if I was "into latex".

They weren't talking about the markup language...

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On 27 Aug 24 11:43:01, Mike Miller said the following to Atreyu:

Yeah, there's a reason I stopped contributing to Wikipedia long, long ago.

Even with well sourced, factual contirbutions a slew of "editors" jumped i and reverted the changes with no explanation over and over again.

Yup... I've contributed some things and had some keyboard-warrior veto them.

Anyone who brings up Wikipedia in some stupid argument has already lost.

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Re: Re: Wikipedia
By: Atreyu to Mike Miller on Tue Aug 27 2024 04:04 pm

Anyone who brings up Wikipedia in some stupid argument has already lost.

That I disagree with. Wikipedia, for all its faults, is anal about citing sources.

You can't just dismiss something you don't like because "Wikipedia said so". Examine the citations and look at the sources.

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Mike,

You can't just dismiss something you don't like because "Wikipedia said so". Examine the citations and look at the sources.

"Always" look at the sources, also non-Wikipedia.

There is so much nonsense generated lately, with or without AI, that it really takes an effort navigating the texts.

And a lot of folks will just cherry-pick whatever because it confirms their opinions rather than look at it criticaly, even one's own opinions.

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Re: Re: Wikipedia
By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Aug 26 2024 11:17 am

Carol,

I'm 76 years old now, so the window is closing. I want to be alive
to see first woman President of the United States of America.

Catching up but I like the tagline! Just not the candidate.

Women in the USA have now the greatest opportunity ever to elect a female president ... ever. If all the women would unite and say "this is the person want to elect" then that person becames the President.

I'm not talking about Democrats or Republicans, I'm not talking about left o right.

Women generally "care", they take charge of the household and the USA are ab the biggest household by itself.

A female president would be the greatest shake-up of US=society which by any definition in the book is a male bastion.

I can't even understand why a woman would consider a convicted felon, a rapi a cheat, a liar, a person who denigrates women, a game-show celebrity star w Nazi-traits (after I'm elected there will be no need for further elections).

Reading John Bolton's "The Room where it all happened" should be a requireme for any voter (John Bolton was a Trump-supporter from day-1 and became Natio Security Advisor until he decided he couldn't take it anymore) or that other book "Fear" by Bob Woodward... Remember January 6th 2021, remember the unfounded claims about rigged voting, remember the more than 80 law suits wh he all lost ... how could anyone in their right mind vote for such a person?

Nahhhh ... but I don't like Harris because 'her choice of clothing', or 'her hair could be better" or "Now what kind of woman would use that kind of lipstick" ... So I'll vote for Trump. Really? ??

That's the reason why Hillary Rodham lost in 2016 ... America's women gossip about the only woman who ever got that far. The fact that she is brilliant doesn't matter ... the fact that she decided her adultering husband deserved second chance doesn't matter ... and she encountered a bully.

Sorry, Carol, elect someone for the right reasons, not for the wrong ones...

\%/@rd

Sorry Ward but if we wanted one with 2 brain cells capable of firing at the same time or at least in a related manner. we'd have elected Hillary. In her case, it was lack of character that ruled her out.

The current one is just an airhead. Don't worry, we'll get a serious one eventually. This just isn't the time.

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Carol,

Sorry Ward but if we wanted one with 2 brain cells capable of firing at
the same time or at least in a related manner. we'd have elected
Hillary. In her case, it was lack of character that ruled her out.

She was not elected for a number of other reasons:

1) Women are way more critical about other women for totally unrelated
reasons ... her hairdo ... her fashion ... the kind of lipstick she wears
... her boobs sagging ... and more of that kind. Women didn't vote for her
because 'it was a woman-thing', not about the Presidency. She has
demonstrated to be a highly competent politician but women in general do
not want to be commanded by another woman.

2) She was not prepared for the Trump-approach and especially the
Trump-debate-style ... she was prepared for a debate about the issues with
the facts and figures. Not the mud-slinging. Nobody was prepared for such
an attrocity. A disgrace ... it turned into a reality show. A lot of
Americans have grown used to reality shows, that's what happened.

The current one is just an airhead. Don't worry, we'll get a serious one eventually. This just isn't the time.

I predict that during the debates Kamala Harris will slice Trump thin enough that Arby's will be using them in their sandwiches. She's a true politician with knowledge and understaqnding of the goings-on and in a debate about charater Trump doesn't stand a chance. It's not going to be a reality show this time, Carol, but as the French say "Ze real zing".

Her legal knowledge is going to make the difference, of course, you need to be smart enough to see it.

Of course whatever the outcome, Trump will get a substantial number of votes because so many airheads without a brain will vote for him, a nice selection of them can even be found in the nodelist. None of them understanding the responsibility that comes with being the President.

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Ward Dossche wrote to Carol Shenkenberger <=-

I predict that during the debates Kamala Harris will slice Trump thin enough that Arby's will be using them in their sandwiches. She's a true politician with knowledge and understaqnding of the goings-on and in a debate about charater Trump doesn't stand a chance. It's not going to
be a reality show this time, Carol, but as the French say "Ze real
zing".

Her legal knowledge is going to make the difference, of course, you
need to be smart enough to see it.

Of course whatever the outcome, Trump will get a substantial number of votes because so many airheads without a brain will vote for him, a
nice selection of them can even be found in the nodelist. None of them understanding the responsibility that comes with being the President.

More 'words of wisdom' from an all-knowing commie-wannabe, who doesn't
live in the USA and isn't a citizen. But you'd like us to believe that
YOU know so much more about what's actually going on in OUR country. In
fact you blatantly imply that if we don't vote for the commie-wannabe candidate, we're "not smart enough" to understand...

It's you who doesn't understand. *WE* all know how she rose to the top,
and it wasn't because of her legal knowledge or that she's smart.

Bugger off and mind your own business. Pay some more taxes and lose a
few more freedoms, while you're at it.



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Bugger off and mind your own business. Pay some more taxes and lose a
few more freedoms, while you're at it.

Hook, line and sinker ... <3 ...

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