On 10-13-22 09:29, Alexander Koryagin <=-
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Millions of Ukrainians (some 6.6 million) have fled the war, not
Ukraine.

Only note, they fled to Russia not to Ukraine.

Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the east.

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Hi, Dale Shipp!
I read your message from 14.10.2022 00:59

AI>> Millions of Ukrainians (some 6.6 million) have fled the
AI>> war, not Ukraine.
AK>> Only note, they fled to Russia not to Ukraine.
DS> Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the
DS> east.

You count only things which you like to count. But of course you don't
like to count those Ukrainians who fled to Russia in the period
2014-2022. I have already given the URL about it, read it.

Bye, Dale!
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���ண� �६�窠, Dale Shipp.
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Millions of Ukrainians (some 6.6 million) have fled the war, not Ukraine.

Only note, they fled to Russia not to Ukraine.

Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the east.

They have been so eager to go to Europe for 30 years! We should be grateful to Putin for such a wonderful chance. However, they were not expected in Europe. Neither physically nor mentally. It turned out ugly in Poland ;)

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Hello, alexander!

Friday October 14 2022 09:01, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the
east.

You count only things which you like to count. But of course you don't
like to count those Ukrainians who fled to Russia in the period
2014-2022. I have already given the URL about it, read it.

Now many of them are moving to EU. Seen them myself.

Best regards,
dp.

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On 10-14-22 09:01, Alexander Koryagin <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about To be or not to be a <=-

Millions of Ukrainians (some 6.6 million) have fled the
war, not Ukraine.

Only note, they fled to Russia not to Ukraine.

Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the
east.

You count only things which you like to count. But of course you don't like to count those Ukrainians who fled to Russia in the period 2014-2022. I have already given the URL about it, read it.

You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about started in Feb
2022, not 2014, and so my statement is correct responder to the false
statement you made.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Dale,

Millions of Ukrainians (some 6.6 million) have fled the
war, not Ukraine.

Only note, they fled to Russia not to Ukraine.

Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not to the
east.

You count only things which you like to count. But of course you don't
like to count those Ukrainians who fled to Russia in the period
2014-2022. I have already given the URL about it, read it.

You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about started in Feb 2022, not 2014, and so my statement is correct responder to the false statement you made.

The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal
annexation of Crimea - a part of Ukraine.

For Life,
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���ண� �६�窠, Lee Lofaso.
�� ��ᠫ� 15.10.22 16:33:

You count only things which you like to count. But of course you don't like to count those
Ukrainians who fled to Russia in the period 2014-2022. I have already given the URL about
it, read it.

You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about started in Feb 2022, not 2014, and
so my statement is correct responder to the false statement you made.

The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea - a part of
Ukraine.

Soon you will say that Russia has illegally annexed energy resources ;)

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 14.10.2022 13:58

DS>>> Wrong. Most of that 6.6 million fled to the west, not
DS>>> to the east.
ak>> You count only things which you like to count. But of
ak>> course you don't like to count those Ukrainians who fled
ak>> to Russia in the period 2014-2022. I have already given
ak>> the URL about it, read it.
DP> Now many of them are moving to EU. Seen them myself.

In this situation the most important the fact is that they went around Ukraine. ;-)

Bye, Dmitry!
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Hi, Dale Shipp!
I read your message from 15.10.2022 01:46

AK>> You count only things which you like to count. But of
AK>> course you don't like to count those Ukrainians who fled to
AK>> Russia in the period 2014-2022. I have already given the
AK>> URL about it, read it.
DS> You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about
DS> started in Feb 2022, not 2014, and so my statement is correct
DS> responder to the false statement you made.

The war in Ukraine started in 2014.

Bye, Dale!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 15.10.2022 17:33

DS>> You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about
DS>> started in Feb 2022, not 2014, and so my statement is
DS>> correct responder to the false statement you made.
LL> The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal
LL> annexation of Crimea - a part of Ukraine.

The war in Crimea had not started only because of Russian troops were
there. In the opposite variant it would be the second Donbass, who has
been chocked by Ukrain troops for 8 years.

The havoc in Ukraine has started right after bastards came to power in
Kiev 2014. And it shows a lessons -- whatever you want to do for your
country -- don't ignore those who oppose you.

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Monday October 17 2022 09:53, you wrote to me:

You count only things which you like to count. But of
course you don't like to count those Ukrainians who fled
to Russia in the period 2014-2022. I have already given
the URL about it, read it.

Now many of them are moving to EU. Seen them myself.

In this situation the most important the fact is that they went around
Ukraine. ;-)

The most important part is that they very scared because of our crazy dictator.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Monday October 17 2022 10:07, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

The war in Crimea had not started only because of Russian troops were there. In the opposite variant it would be the second Donbass, who has

The war started in Crimea when Russian forces started their "operation".
They bodies of those people are now rotting all over Eastern Ukraine.

The havoc in Ukraine has started right after bastards came to power in
Kiev 2014. And it shows a lessons -- whatever you want to do for your
country -- don't ignore those who oppose you.

BTW, are going to the army?

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Alexander,

[..]

The war in Ukraine started in 2014.

With the continuation of that war going on now ...

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Hello Alexander,

You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about
started in Feb 2022, not 2014, and so my statement is
correct responder to the false statement you made.

The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal
annexation of Crimea - a part of Ukraine.

The war in Crimea had not started only because of Russian troops were there. In the opposite variant it would be the second Donbass, who has been chocked by Ukrain troops for 8 years.

Crimea has always been a part of Ukraine - according to Ukraine and
the international community. As such, Russia's claim is not legitimate.

The havoc in Ukraine has started right after bastards came to power in Kiev 2014. And it shows a lessons -- whatever you want to do for your country -- don't ignore those who oppose you.

Ukraine has been an independent country since 1991. With Crimea
as part of that country, recognized by the international community,
including Russia.

The prelude to war (the Russian takeover of Crimea) began in 2012,
with the actual event (takeover and illegal annexation of Crimea) in
2014. Fortunately for all, no big war took place, as US President
Obama chose to act like Neville Chamberlain rather than Winston
Churchill, giving Putin everything he wanted.

For Life,
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���ண� �६�窠, Lee Lofaso.
�� ��ᠫ� 18.10.22 22:06:

You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about started in Feb 2022, not 2014,
and so my statement is correct responder to the false statement you made.

The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal annexation of Crimea - a part of
Ukraine.

The war in Crimea had not started only because of Russian troops were there. In the opposite
variant it would be the second Donbass, who has been chocked by Ukrain troops for 8 years.

Crimea has always been a part of Ukraine - according to Ukraine and the international
community. As such, Russia's claim is not legitimate.

The international community does not accept the terms of its own declaration of international rights, that's the whole answer. Reread the declaration carefully - the self-determination of the people does not depend on the wishes of the government, if the government does not ensure equality.


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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 18.10.2022 23:06

DS>>>> You said "have fled the war". The war being talked about started
DS>>>> in Feb 2022, not 2014, and so my statement is correct responder
DS>>>> to the false statement you made.
LL>>> The war started in 2014, with Russia's invasion and illegal
LL>>> annexation of Crimea - a part of Ukraine.

ak>> The war in Crimea had not started only because of Russian troops
ak>> were there. In the opposite variant it would be the second
ak>> Donbass, who has been chocked by Ukrain troops for 8 years.

LL> Crimea has always been a part of Ukraine - according to Ukraine and
LL> the international community. As such, Russia's claim is not
LL> legitimate.

It is strange to listen to an American speaking about international
laws. ;-) But in reality ultra-nationalists in Kiev had done all to
repel Russians in Crimea from Ukraine. And believe me these people spit
on other opinions about their decision to leave Ukraine.

ak>> The havoc in Ukraine has started right after bastards came to
ak>> power in Kiev 2014. And it shows a lessons -- whatever you want to
ak>> do for your country -- don't ignore those who oppose you.

LL> Ukraine has been an independent country since 1991. With Crimea as
LL> part of that country, recognized by the international community,
LL> including Russia.

The USSR also was an independent country recognized by all. So what?
History has been moving despite treaties ans laws! I repeat you ones
more -- Crimea literally fell on Russia's (Putin's) head after the coup
in 2014. Nobody planned and foresaw it. People of Crimea had made their decision -- Russia just prevented bloodshed there. None of Crimeans
think now they live on the occupied territory.

LL> The prelude to war (the Russian takeover of Crimea) began in 2012,
LL> with the actual event (takeover and illegal annexation of Crimea)
LL> in 2014. Fortunately for all, no big war took place, as US
LL> President Obama chose to act like Neville Chamberlain rather than
LL> Winston Churchill, giving Putin everything he wanted.

What Obama did for Russia in 2012? Enlighten me! ;-)

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday October 19 2022 09:52, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

History has been moving despite treaties ans laws! I repeat you ones
more -- Crimea literally fell on Russia's (Putin's) head after the
coup in 2014. Nobody planned and foresaw it. People of Crimea had made

No, it's not. Puting started military campaign and lied for a long that that "those forces are not ours".
If you hear Putin saying anything - it's a lie. Always.

their decision -- Russia just prevented bloodshed there. None of
Crimeans think now they live on the occupied territory.

Execept for those who were put in jail by FSB :(

Best regards,
dp.

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