• ATK was:Covid

    From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Sean Dennis on Thursday, July 21, 2022 04:56:02
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Did they mention using tweezers or needle-nose pliers to remove
    the floaters (pin bones)?

    Yes, a pair of needle-nose pliers.

    That makes sense given the presenters. I'd have to have a "special"
    pliers for that - if I ate salmon. My regular needle-nose pliers get
    used in some outre things.

    I may be an "odd duck" but I'm not fond of many of the oily fish like
    salmon or mackerel. I can do bluefish if it's *very* fresh. And, oddly,
    I really like trout (salmon's close cousin).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Campfire Trout
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 (6 - 8 oz) fresh caught
    - rainbow trout; gutted,
    - heads optional
    2 Handsful wild onion greens
    - or chives
    Salt & Pepper
    Lemon juice

    First catch your trout - if you don't you go hungry.

    Gut the fish and stuff the cavity with onion/chive
    greens.

    Make a thick mud using river water and dirt from the
    bank. Pack the stuffed fish into a coating and place
    in the coals of your campfire, surrounding the entire
    packet.

    When the mud has baked hard the fish is done. Break
    open and discard the mud - taking care not to get bits
    into the cavity. The scales of the fish will come away
    with the mud.

    Season with salt & pepper and lemon juice and ENJOY!!!

    First made by me on the Kern River between Bodfish and
    Johnsondale, California in July 1966.

    RECIPE FROM: Walt "Thunder Belly" Turner

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Friday, July 22, 2022 09:09:29
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I may be an "odd duck" but I'm not fond of many of the oily fish like salmon or mackerel. I can do bluefish if it's *very* fresh. And, oddly,
    I really like trout (salmon's close cousin).

    I most of the oily fish, but salmon is not on the top of the list for me.
    I like Canned salmon way more then fresh. Andrea loves fresh salmon so I
    cook it and eat just a small bit and give her the rest.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Friday, July 22, 2022 16:30:04
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    That makes sense given the presenters. I'd have to have a "special"
    pliers for that - if I ate salmon. My regular needle-nose pliers get
    used in some outre things.

    Same here. I have a semi-decent pair of pliers in my electronics toolkit
    but the ones in my regular toolbox have been in some rather shady (and
    dirty) places.

    I may be an "odd duck" but I'm not fond of many of the oily fish like salmon or mackerel. I can do bluefish if it's *very* fresh. And, oddly,
    I really like trout (salmon's close cousin).

    I love salmon. Living on the middle Oregon coast where salmon is plentiful
    and cheap spoiled me. My doctors want me to eat more salmon but when it's
    $20 a pound and I have $250 a month allotted for food, that is going to have
    to wait. I do eat more chicken and am trying to stay away from red meat and pork for the heart. I haven't had trout much but what I have had has been delicious. I do not recall knowingly having mackerel.

    I love zwieback also but without teeth, trying to eat it or Wasa bread is a fool's errand:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Herbed Cheese Tarts
    Categories: Appetizers, Cheese/eggs
    Yield: 24 Servings

    1/3 c Fine dry bread crumbs or
    -finely crushed zwieback
    8 oz Pkg cream cheese, softened
    3/4 c Cream-style cottage cheese
    1/2 c Shredded Swiss cheese
    1 tb All-purpose flour
    1/4 ts Dried basil, crushed
    1/8 ts Garlic powder
    2 Eggs

    nonstick spray coating dairy sour cream (optional) sliced or slivered
    pitted ripe olives, red caviar OR chives (optional) roasted red
    papper OR pitted ripe olive cutouts* (optional)

    For crust, spray twenty-four 1 3/4 inch muffin cups with nonstick
    spray coating. Sprinkle bread crumbs or crushed zwieback onto bottom
    and sides to coat. Shake pans to remove excess crumbs. Set aside.

    In a small mixer bowl, combine cream cheese, cottage cheese, Swiss
    cheese, flour, basil, and garlic powder. Beat with an electric mixer
    on medium speed just till fluffy. Add eggs; beat on low speed just
    till combined. Do not overbeat.

    Fill each crumb-lined muffin cup with 1 tablespoon of the cheese
    mixture. Bake in a 375 degree F oven for 15 minutes or till centers
    appear set. (Tarts will puff during baking, then deflate as they
    cool.) Cool in pans on wire racks for 10 minutes. Remove from pans.
    Cool thoroughly on wire racks.

    To serve, spread tops with sour cream. Garnish with olives, caviar,
    chives, and/or red pepper and olive cut-outs. Makes 24 tarts.

    TO REFRIGERATE:

    Bake and cool tarts as directed, except do not spread with sour cream
    or top with garnish. Cover and chill kin the refrigerator for up to
    48 hours. Let tarts stand at room temperature for 30 minutes before
    serving. Spread with sour cream and garnish as directed.

    TO FREEZE:

    Bake and cool tarts as directed, except do not spread with sour cream
    or garnish. Freeze tarts, uncovered, on wire rack about 1 hour or
    till firm. Transfer to a freezer container or bag. Seal, label, and
    place in the freezer. To thaw, let stand, loosely covered, at room
    temperature about 2 hours or in the refrigerator overnight. Spread
    with sour cream and garnish as directed.

    * Decorative cut-outs: Use tiny hors d'oeuvre cutters to cut leaves,
    stars, or other decorative shapes out of the roasted red peppers and
    pitted ripe olives.

    From: THE JOY OF HOLIDAY BAKING, Better Homes and Gardens, 11/90
    Posted by: Karin Brewer, Cooking Echo, 6/92

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Saturday, July 23, 2022 05:11:00
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I may be an "odd duck" but I'm not fond of many of the oily fish
    like salmon or mackerel. I can do bluefish if it's *very* fresh.
    And, oddly, I really like trout (salmon's close cousin).

    I most of the oily fish, but salmon is not on the top of the list
    for me. I like Canned salmon way more then fresh. Andrea loves
    fresh salmon so I cook it and eat just a small bit and give her
    the rest.

    The most common fish around here is catfish which some claim is "muddy"
    tasting - something I have never experienced even when eating the mud
    pout catfish. It is not a firm fleshed fish however. For that one need
    go to the second most popular fish from these parts - carp (which can
    be muddy-tsating if harvested from slow moving muddy waters).

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    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gefilte Fish
    Categories: Seafood, Nuts, Vegetables
    Yield: 16 Servings

    1 md Onion; coarse chopped
    2 tb Margarine *
    1 lb Carp filet
    1 lb Whitefish
    Salt & white pepper
    4 lg Eggs
    1 1/2 c Fine ground blanched almonds
    12 c Strained fish bouillon (TIP)

    * if not keeping Kosher use butter - UDD

    Saute the onion in margarine until soft. Combine with
    the carp and whitefish and chop finely with steel blade
    in a food processor (or chop by hand). Season mixture
    with salt and pepper.

    Add eggs and mix well to blend. Blend in almonds.

    With wet hands shape the fish mixture into ovals, using
    two tablespoons for each.

    Place the ovals in lightly boiling fish bouillon, cover
    and cook at a slow boil for about 30 minutes. Remove
    fish balls from bouillon and arrange on serving dish.
    Strain the bouillon through a fine strainer over the
    fish and refrigerate. The bouillon will jell.

    To serve, arrange a piece or two of cooked carrot slices
    on each piece of gefilte fish, decorate with parsley and
    serve red horseradish on the side.

    TIP: Using a standard recipe for making fish bouillon,
    season with carrots, tomato, zucchini, onions, celery,
    parsley, bay leaf and leek.

    Written by: Marian Burros

    Yields - About 16 pieces

    RECIPE FROM: http://cooking.nytimes.com/

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Saturday, July 23, 2022 10:51:02
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    The most common fish around here is catfish which some claim is "muddy" tasting - something I have never experienced even when eating the mud
    pout catfish. It is not a firm fleshed fish however. For that one need

    My SIL is crazy for fishing. I mean it's an addiction. He's grabbed
    some catfish and I didn't taste any "muddy" flavour either. He's been
    catching carp for sport (no limit and you must kill what you catch)
    but they are the really big ones that he doesn't want to eat due to the polution in the lake here. It's on the list of fish to try when he
    gets the right size.

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Saturday, July 23, 2022 11:02:15
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    much but what I have had has been delicious. I do not recall knowingly having mackerel.

    I love canned mackerel. I buy it by the case on Amazon as it's not
    popular here in the stores. Toast, butter, mackerel, onion, and hot
    mustard. Yuuuum. lol (Soft since it's canned, you could eat it
    without teeth. It's also good just out of the can)

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Saturday, July 23, 2022 15:00:58
    Hi Shawn,

    I love canned mackerel. I buy it by the case on Amazon as it's not popular here in the stores. Toast, butter, mackerel, onion, and hot mustard. Yuuuum. lol (Soft since it's canned, you could eat it
    without teeth. It's also good just out of the can)

    Are they anything like kipper snacks?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Basic Fish Chowder and Variations
    Categories: Fish, Soups, Bacon
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Fish fillets
    2 sl Bacon, chopped
    1/2 c Onion, chopped
    2 c Fish stock or water
    1 c Raw potato, sliced
    2 c Milk
    1 ts Salt
    1 ds Of pepper

    Salmon, halibut, rockfish or cod (hake or haddock) may be used for the
    fish. Fry bacon until crisp; add onion and cook until tender. Add
    water and potatoes and simmer 10 minutes or until the potatoes are
    partially tender. Cut fish into 1 inch cubes and add and simmer again
    until fish and potatoes are tender. Add milk and seasonings; heat
    thoroughly and serve immediately.

    VARIATIONS:

    2 cups grated cheddar cheese may be added before the milk is added.
    Stir until melted and proceed.

    2 tbsp flour may be added for thickness.

    Sub 2 tb Butter for the bacon.

    You can add one of:

    1 ts Chopped fresh thyme
    1/4 ts dried thyme
    : chopped chives for garnish
    2 Bay leaves

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Sunday, July 24, 2022 01:33:00
    On 07-23-22 05:11, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Shawn Highfield about Oily Fish was:ATK <=-

    The most common fish around here is catfish which some claim is
    "muddy" tasting - something I have never experienced even when eating

    I think that the distinction between fresh and muddy is running water
    versus still (or stagnate) water.

    the mud pout catfish. It is not a firm fleshed fish however. For that

    Agreed, and that is one reason why it is not as high on my preference
    list, even though it is quite popular with the population.

    one need go to the second most popular fish from these parts - carp
    (which can be muddy-tsating if harvested from slow moving muddy
    waters).

    When I lived in Wisconsin, I would often fish for carp for sport. As a
    big fish, they could put up a decent fight. We never ate those we
    caught though. If I could I would disengage the hook and release them
    back into the bay. If the hook was too deep, I would plant them in the
    garden. OTOH, I do understand that they are quite poplular with some
    European cultures.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Crusted Baked Salmon
    Categories: Easy, Tested
    Yield: 2 Servings

    12 oz Salmon filet approx
    1 1/2 T Mayo
    1 1/2 T Sour cream
    1 T Grated parm cheese
    Maybe more
    1/2 T Lemon juice (optional)
    1 ea Green onion thinly sliced
    1 t Garlic powder

    Preheat oven to 400 degrees (used toaster oven) Line pan with
    parchment paper.

    Place fish skin side down on paper.

    Spread top of fish with mayo mixture. Cover all of top.

    Bake 25 to 30 min.

    Tested Very nice. Did 25 minutes, maybe less time next time.
    depends on thickness of fish.

    *might use some dill weed instead of green onions

    Off the net.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:14:23
    Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    without teeth. It's also good just out of the can)
    Are they anything like kipper snacks?

    If you got the smoked ones possibily.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sunday, July 24, 2022 16:10:14
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    If you got the smoked ones possibily.

    I'll have to try it to at least say I did.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken and Potato Casserole
    Categories: Main dish, Seandennis
    Yield: 5 Servings

    1 Box au gratin potatoes
    2 c Boiling water
    3/4 c Milk
    2 T Butter or margarine
    1 Can (10 3/4 oz) cream of
    - mushroom soup, undiluted
    1 c Diced cooked chicken
    1 c Cooked peas
    1/4 c Chopped pimiento (optional)

    Preheat oven to 400 degrees F.

    In a 2-quart casserole dish, combine potatoes and sauce mix. Stir in
    boiling water, milk, and butter. Stir in soup. Gently mix in
    chicken, peas, and pimientos. Bake uncovered for 45 minutes or until
    potatoes are tender. Let stand a few minutes and serve.

    From: A recipe on the side of a box of au gratin potatoes

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 19 June 2011.

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    -- Sean


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