Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

PCBoard might've made my list if it wasn't so shoved down my throat by
others in the 90's. But I remember it had a very large plugin/mod scene.

I really wanted AdeptX/Orion to take off... lightyears ahead of its time
in design and potential on OS/2 but ended up just an unreliable buggy POS.

Nick

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On 02 Jun 2022, Nick Andre said the following...

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

Renegade for sure. It always seemed so simple, elegant and powerful. WWIV for sheer nostalgia and memories of dialing up to get my WWIVnet messages so I could stay up all night reading the latest source code mods, and then trying to apply them to my board.

I had a PCBoard license also, and that was the last thing I ran on dial-up, but I always felt like that system was overcomplicated in its setup and took vast amounts of time to customize.

-ZR (Andrew Haworth)

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--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
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Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

I would have to say WWIV followed by VBBS.
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Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT
Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS,
Searchlight and MajorBBS.

PCBoard might've made my list if it wasn't so shoved down my
throat by others in the 90's. But I remember it had a very large plugin/mod scene.

PCBoard for me.



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Re: BBS'ing
By: Nick Andre to All on Thu Jun 02 2022 04:02 pm

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

GBBS.
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To: Zero Reader
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Zero Reader to Nick Andre on Thu Jun 02 2022 04:27 pm

I had a PCBoard license also, and that was the last thing I ran on dial-up, but I always felt like that system was overcomplicated in its setup and took vast amounts of time to customize.

i only played around with pcboard but i think you agree with me on this in that there have been some really amazing modded pcboard bbses.

to me renegade is a bbs that you start out with to get your feet wet.
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Hello, Nick Andre.
On 6/2/22 4:02 PM you wrote:

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT
Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS,
Searchlight and MajorBBS. PCBoard might've made my list if it
wasn't so shoved down my throat by others in the 90's. But I
remember it had a very large plugin/mod scene. I really wanted AdeptX/Orion to take off... lightyears ahead of its time in design
and potential on OS/2 but ended up just an unreliable buggy POS.

ProBoard was nice, PCBoard too.

I dabbled with Oblivion/2, VisionX and similar "scene" packages, too but they were too niche and didn't do as much as PCBoard or ProBoard.

I'm pretty sure I played with just about every semi-popular BBS software out there in the early 90s.


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On 02 Jun 2022, Jas Hud said the following...

i only played around with pcboard but i think you agree with me on this
in that there have been some really amazing modded pcboard bbses.

For sure. I have one ready to go now that looks like AmigaExpress. For me, I always found the utilities and configuration programs a bit tedious to use, but I never ran 100 nodes or anything to need those pro level features. The network setup had some oddities (although once you got it sorted out, it was a nice all-in-one package since it didn't need a separate mailer/tosser/etc.) The PPEs were pretty amazing.

... Users come in two types: Those who have lost data, and those who will.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
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Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

I really wanted AdeptX/Orion to take off... lightyears ahead of its
time in design and potential on OS/2 but ended up just an unreliable
buggy POS.

I also wanted this oen to work. I set it up more then once, and more then
once it would crap out completly. It was just so well documented and feature packed.

I also really liked Maximus and if you spent the time to configure it like
I did, you could make it look good.

As for modern software I do really like Talisman (which I run now) as it's configurable, supports everything and includes everything.

Shawn

... If you call me insane again, I'll eat your other eye.

--- Talisman v0.37-dev (Windows/x86)
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Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

I loved Searchlight. I co-sysoped a board called "Just Say Yes" in 1989 that ran a cool lightbar menu that was ahead of its time.

For weirdness, there was Pyroto Mountain, a fantasy game masquerading as a BBS.


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On 03 Jun 22 07:17:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Nick Andre:

I loved Searchlight. I co-sysoped a board called "Just Say Yes" in 1989 tha ran a cool lightbar menu that was ahead of its time.

Yes the lightbars were farrrrrrr ahead of any Obv2, Iniquity or RG mods.

The Spinnaker web server was interesting and had some potential but its another one of those great ideas that was a bugridden mess.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 09:30:20, Shawn Highfield said the following to Nick Andre:

I also really liked Maximus and if you spent the time to configure it like I did, you could make it look good.

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

Its a real shame about Adept/Orion, I really wanted to like that one.

As for modern software I do really like Talisman (which I run now) as it's configurable, supports everything and includes everything.

Never heard of that one,

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 00:36:42, Mike Miller said the following to Nick Andre:

I dabbled with Oblivion/2, VisionX and similar "scene" packages, too but th were too niche and didn't do as much as PCBoard or ProBoard.

Me neither, never did like any of those. They just had this aroma of k-rad l33t-ness about them. One of them had a backdoor if I remember correctly.

Nick

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On 02 Jun 22 16:31:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

PCBoard might've made my list if it wasn't so shoved down my
throat by others in the 90's. But I remember it had a very large plugin/mod scene.

PCBoard for me.

Big scene in your area in the heyday?

Nick

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On 02 Jun 22 16:20:08, Dallas Vinson said the following to Nick Andre:

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

I would have to say WWIV followed by VBBS.

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

Nick

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On 02 Jun 22 16:27:04, Zero Reader said the following to Nick Andre:

I had a PCBoard license also, and that was the last thing I ran on dial-up, but I always felt like that system was overcomplicated in its setup and too vast amounts of time to customize.

Ahhhhh, nothing beats overcomplicated/overengineered than TBBS. But in a good amusing way... not the convoluted BBBS way.

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking
compiler whenever you wrote menus, but you had a nice VHS instructional video.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 2022, Nick Andre said the following...

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking compiler whenever you wrote menus, but you had a nice VHS instructional video.

I want to check out TBBS sometimes. It sounds intriguing -- and VHS instructional videos? Way ahead of its time!

I still have my PCBoard soft-bound printed manuals (Sysop guide and PPLC manual) on my bookshelf!

-ZR (Andrew Haworth)

... There's no present. There's only the immediate future and the recent past

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/04/26 (Linux/64)
* Origin: alcoholidaybbs.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (1:123/525)

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because you could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I was always jealous of the much better configuration system. But having access to better doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.


- Andre
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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

PCBoard might've made my list if it wasn't so shoved down my
throat by others in the 90's. But I remember it had a very large plugin/mod scene.

PCBoard for me.

Big scene in your area in the heyday?

I lived in the Chicago-land area back then, so there were quite a few
boards around. I'd say PCB was certainly not the majority of them, but
the ones that were seemed much "nicer" than most of the rest. Maybe
"more professional" looking is the right term. So that's what I ran
then, and liked it a lot. Also registered InterMail and InterEcho for
mail stuff, worked well also. As I recall the USRobotics modem site ran
PCB back then. :-)



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Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

GT Power. I still run my original system on it, on port 27 and on dial-up.

As a caller, I also liked RBBS and Coco.

For more recent packages, I like Magicka, although it is no longer in development.

Mike


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Hello Nick,

02 Jun 22 16:02, you wrote to All:

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

PCBoard might've made my list if it wasn't so shoved down my throat by others in the 90's. But I remember it had a very large plugin/mod
scene.

I really wanted AdeptX/Orion to take off... lightyears ahead of its
time in design and potential on OS/2 but ended up just an unreliable
buggy POS.

what can i say? Maximus! :)

Regards,
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dp

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Hello Nick,

03 Jun 22 14:26, you wrote to Shawn Highfield:

I also really liked Maximus and if you spent the time to configure
it like I did, you could make it look good.

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

you're right. it was very good on DOS, but when i switched to OS/2 it was a whole new world opening :)

Regards,
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dp

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I would have to say WWIV followed by VBBS.

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

Had one T.A.G. system in the area. It was LD for me, so when I was at my step-dad's mom's on holiday's I'd call it. It was AWFUL.

... You can lead a man to knowledge, but you cannot make him think.

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
* Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (1:129/305)

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking compiler whenever you wrote menus, but you had a nice VHS instructional vi

Mystic doesn't need that, it has Youtube. ahhahaha

... If they put your brain in a bird, it would fly backward.

--- Renegade v1.31/Exp
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On 03 Jun 22 14:46:00, Zero Reader said the following to Nick Andre:

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking compiler whenever you wrote menus, but you had a nice VHS instructiona video.

I want to check out TBBS sometimes. It sounds intriguing -- and VHS instructional videos? Way ahead of its time!

I'll have to sift through my DVD collection as I remember I leeched everything off of www.tbbs.org when that site was still around. One person had uploaded those videos and I was quick to burn them to disk...

There was this add-on called TDBS which took any Dbase-app and instantly made it into a door. *That* was far ahead of its time.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 13:51:13, Andre Robitaille said the following to Nick Andre:

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because yo could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I was alwa jealous of the much better configuration system. But having access to bette doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.

I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 14:04:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

I lived in the Chicago-land area back then, so there were quite a few boards around. I'd say PCB was certainly not the majority of them, but the ones that were seemed much "nicer" than most of the rest. Maybe
"more professional" looking is the right term. So that's what I ran
then, and liked it a lot. Also registered InterMail and InterEcho for mail stuff, worked well also. As I recall the USRobotics modem site ran PCB back then. :-)

I keep hearing from many people that Chicago had *the* scene, possibly the biggest in the country at one time. Toronto had a big one but nothing compared to some other American cities.

Lol wow, Dale Barnes the current IM/IE author I think lives in Chicago... somewhere in IL anyhow.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 15:51:00, Dumas Walker said the following to Nick Andre:

GT Power. I still run my original system on it, on port 27 and on dial-up.

As a caller, I also liked RBBS and Coco.

RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 22:09:22, Daniel Path said the following to Nick Andre:

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

you're right. it was very good on DOS, but when i switched to OS/2 it was a whole new world opening :)

The ones who had the Max/Squish/Binkleyterm combo were *diehards*. Those guys swore by it, never at it.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 18:09:11, T.J. Mcmillen said the following to Nick Andre:

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

Had one T.A.G. system in the area. It was LD for me, so when I was at my step-dad's mom's on holiday's I'd call it. It was AWFUL.

Maybe a "cool board" is in the eye of the beholder but I was surrounded by RA, Super-BBS and TriBBS boards. All of them looked stock, all of them ran by Sysops who thought they were curing cancer.

Nick

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On 03 Jun 22 18:09:40, T.J. Mcmillen said the following to Nick Andre:

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking compiler whenever you wrote menus, but you had a nice VHS instructional vi

Mystic doesn't need that, it has Youtube. ahhahaha

Lol

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I lived in the Chicago-land area back then, so there were quite a few boards around. I'd say PCB was certainly not the majority of them, but the ones that were seemed much "nicer" than most of the rest. Maybe
"more professional" looking is the right term. So that's what I ran
then, and liked it a lot. Also registered InterMail and InterEcho for mail stuff, worked well also. As I recall the USRobotics modem site ran PCB back then. :-)

I keep hearing from many people that Chicago had *the* scene,
possibly the biggest in the country at one time. Toronto had a
big one but nothing compared to some other American cities.

Yes, it was pretty active, and Net 115 at the time was fairly big. I
was running the BBS and Fido from 93-96. Really a great time.

Lol wow, Dale Barnes the current IM/IE author I think lives in
Chicago... somewhere in IL anyhow.

The nodelist shows him in both Chicago and Houston, which seems a little strange. As far as I know, IM/IE is not under further development.


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I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.

I've heard bits and pieces about different software influencing each other. I just liked the menu system a lot more than other stuff out there, and I enjoyed being able to modify the source. And WWIVnet offered a lot to me because of the smaller community in my city...

But then I switched high schools and got a girlfriend, so the BBS never recovered.

Just for kicks, I just logged into one of the WWIV boards. I am no longer nostalgic about it, and appreciate Mystic and Sync a hell of a lot more than I did fifteen minutes ago.


- Andre
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To: Shawn Highfield
Re: BBS'ing
By: Shawn Highfield to Nick Andre on Fri Jun 03 2022 09:30 am

As for modern software I do really like Talisman (which I run now) as it's configurable, supports everything and includes everything.

well did you have to ask for a lot of help, because the documentation looks sparce. where is the documentation on doorgames?
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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Nick Andre to Zero Reader on Fri Jun 03 2022 02:30 pm

TBBS I think was the only software in the world that needed a freaking compiler whenever you wrote menus,

that sounds familiar....
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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Nick Andre to Andre Robitaille on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:12 pm

On 03 Jun 22 13:51:13, Andre Robitaille said the following to Nick Andre:

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because yo could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I was alwa jealous of the much better configuration system. But having access to bette doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.

I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.

telegard was one of many wwiv hacks and the developer's friend copied the tg 2.5g source and leaked it and that's how you got the early versions of renegade.

this leak was a malicious act because the guy who stole it liked TAG and wanted tg to end. what happenen is the code for tg just got better, and the guy said that cott lang found a few backdoors in it which got removed.
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Hello Nick!

03 Jun 22 18:14, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

RBBS-PC was the first BBS I remember calling as a user, using a 1200 bps modem on my Dad's Tandy 1000 TX. The southeastern CT area was predominantly QuickBBS systems when I started, which as time went on shifted toward RemoteAccess as it was the first QuickBBS style system to allow multi-node operation. There were also a few PCBoard and TeleGard systems around, along with a handful of Amiga systems running AmiExpress, etc. Opus-CBCS and Maximus were also represented.

Andrew

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Nick Andre wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

It really was.

Its a real shame about Adept/Orion, I really wanted to like that one.

So did I.

Shawn

... Open your front door, @FN@. My pit bull is waiting to say hello!

--- Talisman v0.37-dev (Windows/x86)
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Jas Hud wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

well did you have to ask for a lot of help, because the documentation looks sparce. where is the documentation on doorgames?

www.talismanbbs.com - click docs - menus scroll down.

RUNDOOR Runs a door, DATA is the full path and filename of a script to run,
the script is passed a node number on Linux and a node number and socket
handle on Windows.

I didn't find it hard to configure... maybe because I've checked out so
many packages?

Shawn

... Rule Four: I don't want to catch anybody not drinking.

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I keep hearing from many people that Chicago had *the* scene, possibly the biggest in the country at one time. Toronto had a big one but nothing compared
to some other American cities.

Houston, TX, was huge. I never lived there but, if I called a board LD it
was probably there. They had over 100 active nodes in the GT Power Network at one point.

Mike


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RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

I think so. If not Quickbasic, some other *basic. The source is/used to
be available on the web somewhere. I thought about downloading it and
seeing what, if anything, I could do with it. That is still on my
'RoundToIt list. :)

Mike


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I've heard bits and pieces about different software influencing each other. I st liked the menu system a lot more than other stuff out there, and I enjoyed ing able to modify the source. And WWIVnet offered a lot to me because of the aller community in my city...

But then I switched high schools and got a girlfriend, so the BBS never recove
d.

You mentioning high school and WWIV got me thinking. There were not too
many long-running WWIV boards in the area I lived in c1988-1997. Most of
them were were like Commodore boards... up for a while and then
disappeared. But there was one that was up for most of that period, until BBSing started to wane. It was run by one of the local high school
computer departments. Considering that kids are only in high school so
long before moving on, looking back I am surprised it stayed active for more than 4 years.


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Hello Nick,

03 Jun 22 18:15, you wrote to me:

On 03 Jun 22 22:09:22, Daniel Path said the following to Nick Andre:

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good
reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

you're right. it was very good on DOS, but when i switched to OS/2
it was a whole new world opening :)

The ones who had the Max/Squish/Binkleyterm combo were *diehards*.
Those guys swore by it, never at it.

i had binkleyterm in the first 1-2 years, but at a point i switched to Xenia, i think it was when i transferred all my stuff to OS/2 and some issues occured with Binkley..

Regards,
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Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Nick Andre to Andre Robitaille on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:12 pm

On 03 Jun 22 13:51:13, Andre Robitaille said the following to Nick Andre:

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because yo could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I was alwa jealous of the much better configuration system. But having access to bette doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.

I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal source code.
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You mentioning high school and WWIV got me thinking. There were not too many long-running WWIV boards in the area I lived in c1988-1997. Most of them were were like Commodore boards... up for a while and then disappeared. But there was one that was up for most of that period, until BBSing started to wane. It was run by one of the local high school computer departments. Considering that kids are only in high school so long before moving on, looking back I am surprised it stayed active for more than 4 years.

I seem to have left the scene right as it was spinning up. Last night I remembered that the was one board in the area that was a Fido node, so I started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

Apparently I missed the heyday of having lots of boards to call.


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On 04 Jun 2022, Rob Swindell said the following...

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal
source code. --

I'm curious what parts of WWIV they ended up using, because from an end-user view, those packages seem very different from WWIV. I never used WWIV when it was written in Pascal -- so I don't know how different it was from the C version -- which I am very familiar with.

I think it's only been fairly recently that WWIV has created a menu editing system along the lines of RG/TG.

I really find the history and evolution of these packages interesting.

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To: Shawn Highfield
Re: BBS'ing
By: Shawn Highfield to Jas Hud on Sat Jun 04 2022 08:46 am

Jas Hud wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

well did you have to ask for a lot of help, because the documentation looks sparce. where is the documentation on doorgames?

www.talismanbbs.com - click docs - menus scroll down.

RUNDOOR Runs a door, DATA is the full path and filename of a script to run, the script is passed a node number on Linux and a node number and socket handle on Windows.

I didn't find it hard to configure... maybe because I've checked out so
many packages?

yeah i saw the rundoor. maybe i just need an example.
i'm not looking to change softwares anyways. i just checked it out for a few mins.

what does it use for a fossil?
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On 6/4/2022 10:28 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

I think so. If not Quickbasic, some other *basic. The source is/used to
be available on the web somewhere. I thought about downloading it and
seeing what, if anything, I could do with it. That is still on my
'RoundToIt list. :)

Mike

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I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.
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To: Andre Robitaille
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Andre Robitaille to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 04 2022 05:14 pm

started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

Apparently I missed the heyday of having lots of boards to call.

some people call it 'the 3rd wave' and it was a lot of fun.
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To: Zero Reader
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Zero Reader to Rob Swindell on Sat Jun 04 2022 07:02 pm

I'm curious what parts of WWIV they ended up using, because from an end-user view, those packages seem very different from WWIV. I never used WWIV when it was written in Pascal -- so I don't know how different it was from the C version -- which I am very familiar with.

you can check it out here http://telegard.net/files/tg25src.zip

renegade was a rip off of that leaked tg source.

or maybe this was the one?
http://www.filegate.net/pub/bbsprog/src/tele16a.zip

maybe sean would remember.
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I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.

What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

Mike

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On 05 Jun 2022, Jas Hud said the following...

you can check it out here http://telegard.net/files/tg25src.zip

renegade was a rip off of that leaked tg source.

or maybe this was the one? http://www.filegate.net/pub/bbsprog/src/tele16a.zip

Thanks, I'm looking forward to poking around in those!

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Nick Andre wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

Can confirm. I ran Max/2 for several years. Low overhead when running on a properly multitasking BBS, and what I liked about it was being able to make changes to file areas and message areas in a text editor. Copying/pasting
new areas, reordering them and changing naming conventions was a breeze.


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Andre Robitaille wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

I seem to have left the scene right as it was spinning up. Last night I remembered that the was one board in the area that was a Fido node, so
I started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

I found an old nodelist from when I first joined Fido in 1992, and it was mind-boggling how many BBSes there were at the time. I knew it was big,
didn't recall how big.

I was in San Francisco, remember calling Tom Jennings' Fido BBS. I
downloaded Fido from there, and Opus a little later on. The notion of being able to do everything with a batch file and a couple of DOS executables intrigued me.








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Rob Swindell wrote to Nick Andre <=-

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal
source code.

I recall FORUM-PC being accused of ripping off WWIV, I thought the BBSes you mentioned all sort of ripped off each other - but I'm sure they all shared common roots with some other source-available BBS -- like WWIV.


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On 6/5/2022 9:51 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.

What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

Mike

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It's currently not open to the public. :-(
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What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

It's currently not open to the public. :-(

No problem. :)

Mike


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BY: Kurt Weiske(1:218/700)

Can confirm. I ran Max/2 for several years. Low overhead when running on
a
properly multitasking BBS, and what I liked about it was being able to
make
changes to file areas and message areas in a text editor.
Copying/pasting
new areas, reordering them and changing naming conventions was a breeze.

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.


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Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

WWIV, WinServer



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Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider
ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.

There is a 16-bit VXD for 64-bit Windows that seems to work pretty well from what I've heard.


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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Kurt Weiske to Matt Munson on Wed Jun 08 2022 08:16 am

Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.

There is a 16-bit VXD for 64-bit Windows that seems to work pretty well from what I've heard.

i wouldn't trust it.
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