• setting up hobbynet woes

    From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to all on Sunday, December 01, 2024 09:18:58
    I made it this far and keep getting errors trying to import the messages. No errors on areafix commands. No errors on authentication. Any clues what I have obviously missed? I am using CRAM-MD5 setting.

    My password we agreed upon is working and set for session, fix, and tic. No errors being reported.

    here is a screen shot of sbbsecho.log and i did ** out my node info.
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Importing C:\sbbs\fido\nonsecure\00c49df1.pkt (Type 2e, 10.6KB) from 954:895/2 to 954:895/**
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Bad packet detected: C:\sbbs\fido\nonsecure\00c49df1.pkt 2024-12-01 08:01:20 Importing C:\sbbs\fido\nonsecure\00c49df4.pkt (Type 2e, 132.0KB) from 954:895/2 to 954:895/**
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HOBBIES EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored

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  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to Rixter on Monday, December 02, 2024 08:24:29
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to all on Sun Dec 01 2024 09:18 am

    Howdy,

    I made it this far and keep getting errors trying to import the messages. No errors on areafix commands. No errors on authentication. Any clues what I have obviously missed? I am using CRAM-MD5 setting.

    My password we agreed upon is working and set for session, fix, and tic. No errors being reported.

    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Importing C:\sbbs\fido\nonsecure\00c49df1.pkt (Type 2e, 10.6KB) from 954:895/2 to 954:895/**

    So if stuff is coming into "nonsecure", then there is issues with authentication.

    Make sure the following:
    * The "session" password is case sensitive (when using CRAM-MD5) - so make sure your passwords have the same case.

    * Also make sure, since Mike run's two networks, that your binkp password is the same for both networks. In the above outbound, your authentication might have passed for 999:*, but might be silently failing for 954:*


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Sunday, December 01, 2024 14:27:58
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to all on Sun Dec 01 2024 09:18 am

    I made it this far and keep getting errors trying to import the messages. No errors on areafix commands. No errors on authentication. Any clues what I have obviously missed? I am using CRAM-MD5 setting.

    My password we agreed upon is working and set for session, fix, and tic. No errors being reported.

    here is a screen shot of sbbsecho.log and i did ** out my node info. 2024-12-01 08:01:20 Importing C:\sbbs\fido\nonsecure\00c49df1.pkt (Type 2e, 10.6KB) from 954:895/2 to 954:895/**
    2024-12-01 08:01:20 Unauthenticated HNET_HAM_RADIO EchoMail from 954:895/2 (in the non-secure inbound directory) ignored

    You're receiving echomail in your non-secure inbound directory (and they're ignored by SBBSecho consequently). That suggests that your BinkP session was not authenticated (i.e. with a password).
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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to deon on Sunday, December 01, 2024 20:51:20
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to all on Sun Dec 01 2024 09:18 am

    Howdy,

    So if stuff is coming into "nonsecure", then there is issues with authentication.

    Make sure the following:
    * The "session" password is case sensitive (when using CRAM-MD5) - so make sure your passwords have the same case.

    * Also make sure, since Mike run's two networks, that your binkp password is the same for both networks. In the above outbound, your authentication might have passed for 999:*, but might be silently failing for 954:*

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    I should say the areafix login and requests are generating error level 0. There is obviously an authentication error somewhere. My password is 7 numbers and it works for areafix. I asked mike to change it to a mix of numbers and letters today. Maybe that is the fix to the problem. It's got me aggravated because setting up fsxNet was a 20 minute fast setup and running deal. Thanks for writing back to me.

    telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    Madison,NC

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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Digital Man on Sunday, December 01, 2024 20:58:59
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to all on Sun Dec 01 2024 09:18 am

    You're receiving echomail in your non-secure inbound directory (and they're ignored by SBBSecho consequently). That suggests that your BinkP session was not authenticated (i.e. with a password).
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Steven Wright quote #20:
    If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
    Norco, CA WX: 73.8¨F, 21.0% humidity, 9 mph W wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
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    I guess even if the areafix login password works with error level 0 it can be bad for the messages packets? Do you think mike at hobbynet set my passwords up incorrectly? I had it agreed on as 7 numbers, I asked him to change it to 8 characters being 4 numbers and 4 capital letters. I have been watching your YouTube video on fidonet set. I hope it helps. Thanks for your help!

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    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rixter on Sunday, December 01, 2024 20:38:58
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Sun Dec 01 2024 08:58 pm

    I guess even if the areafix login password works with error level 0 it can be bad for the messages packets?

    A session password is different than a packet password which is different than an areafix password.

    Do you think mike at hobbynet set my
    passwords up incorrectly?

    I don't know. You haven't shared any logs snippets to tell us.

    I had it agreed on as 7 numbers, I asked him to
    change it to 8 characters being 4 numbers and 4 capital letters.

    That should not matter.

    I have been
    watching your YouTube video on fidonet set. I hope it helps. Thanks for your help!

    Good luck!
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  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to Rixter on Monday, December 02, 2024 19:26:01
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to deon on Sun Dec 01 2024 08:51 pm

    Howdy,

    I should say the areafix login and requests are generating error level 0. There is obviously an authentication error somewhere. My password is 7 numbers and it works for areafix. I asked mike to change it to a mix of numbers and letters today. Maybe that is the fix to the problem. It's got me aggravated because setting up fsxNet was a 20 minute fast setup and running deal. Thanks for writing back to me.

    I think DM replied.

    Your "session" password is used for BINKP sessions - which is the issue here because mail is going in the "unsecure" dir.

    Areafix, Filefix and packet passwords are *not* used during BINKP sessions - they are for other things, so you can ignore those for now and focus on your ensuring your session passwords match *exactly* with Mike. (And if you have both health and hobbynet addresses, make sure they are exactly the same.)


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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to deon on Monday, December 02, 2024 12:41:45
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to deon on Sun Dec 01 2024 08:51 pm

    Howdy,

    I think DM replied.

    Your "session" password is used for BINKP sessions - which is the issue here because mail is going in the "unsecure" dir.

    Areafix, Filefix and packet passwords are *not* used during BINKP sessions - they are for other things, so you can ignore those for now and focus on your ensuring your session passwords match *exactly* with Mike. (And if you have both health and hobbynet addresses, make sure they are exactly the same.)

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    Mike got it fixed, getting lots of messages now. Thanks.

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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Digital Man on Monday, December 02, 2024 12:43:05
    Re: setting up hobbynet woes
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Sun Dec 01 2024 08:58 pm

    A session password is different than a packet password which is different than an areafix password.

    I don't know. You haven't shared any logs snippets to tell us.

    That should not matter.

    Good luck!
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Sling Blade quote #14:
    Karl Childers: Some folks call it a sling blade, I call it a kaiser blade. Norco, CA WX: 60.6¨F, 39.0% humidity, 2 mph N wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs ---
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    Mike at hobby network got it fixed. I have lots of messages to catch up on now. Thank you.

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    http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
    Madison,NC

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