Hello all,

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

Thanks.



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Re: Brave browser
By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser.

I am using it in Windows 10 on my main machine. Haven't tried it in Linux, but it is on my list...

I really like it a lot more than Chrome - don't use Chrome on my PCs anymore but my work forces me to use it on their machines.

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Re: Brave browser
By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser.

I am using it in Windows 10 on my main machine. Haven't tried it in Linux, but it is on my list...

I really like it a lot more than Chrome - don't use Chrome on my PCs anymore but my work forces me to use it on their machines.

Okay, thanks for the feedback.



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Re: Brave browser
By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

Hello all,

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

Thanks.

I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configuration and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD


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Re: Brave browser
By: Gamgee to All on Sat Sep 07 2024 07:43 pm

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configuration and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

Okay thanks. I use both Firefox and Chromium now, but it seems like
more and more sites want me to turn off ad-blocking (via browser
extensions), or they won't show me content.

I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking
Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the
opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

I don't spend too much time on Youtube, but do look at some things there
now and then. Thanks for the feedback.



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Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Sun Sep 08 2024 06:10 pm

advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

Why is that?

Nightfox

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Re: Brave browser
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sun Sep 08 2024 07:22 pm

advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

Why is that?

Many reasons. First of all, it is a low quality service. It is loaded up with soooo much advertising, and the mother company is coming up with lots of crazy ideas (like DRMing layer 7 protocols) in order to make you eat even more advertisements. Think of deals like forcing you to use web browsers without ad-blocking capabilities in order to visit their sites and then strongarming other webservices to do the same. Unlikely to succeed, but using the service gives them power, and that is to be avoided.

Then there is also the fact that auto-moderation sucks and that they are removing any content that does not feel happy-flower enough for them. Many Spanish channels that docummented stuff like industrial security got canned because apparently if you talk about bad stuff such as "amputations" and "dismemberments" or whatever your videos get auto-canceled.

I think none of the crap above should be normalized.




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Hello Arelor!

** On Sunday 08.09.24 - 18:10, Arelor wrote to Gamgee:

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some
stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
it seemed pretty decent...

I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

This site seems to compare privacy features across different
browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
regard.



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I have some friends who use Brave. They like it because of the easy
ad-blocking for the most part. I think it does a good job blocking
Youtube advertisements, which is a big plus for them. I am of the opinion
people should not be using Youtube, but more power to them XD

This site seems to compare privacy features across different
browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
regard.

OOOOPS.. I hit S)end too soon, and forgot the link:

https://privacytests.org/


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Re: Brave browser
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 09 2024 06:52 pm

This site seems to compare privacy features across different
browsers. Looks like Brave is ultimately the best in that
regard.

OOOOPS.. I hit S)end too soon, and forgot the link:

Something not mentioned is that Brave has native Tor support. They consider it a core feature.

I have not checked the list because it requires Javascript, but if default Brave gets more private than a Tor Browser with the security level set to "Safer", it is really impressive.


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Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to Ogg on Wed Sep 11 2024 03:59 am

Something not mentioned is that Brave has native Tor support. They consider it a core feature.

I have not checked the list because it requires Javascript, but if default Brave gets more private than a Tor Browser with the security level set to "Safer", it is really impressive.

hold on a second. using tor is NOT secure.
use at your own risk.
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Re: Brave browser
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Sep 11 2024 07:03 am

hold on a second. using tor is NOT secure.
use at your own risk.

We are talking about identifying data leaks in this context. Without taking Tor into account, the browser component itself is very tightly closed down, specially if you turn the dial of safety presets upwards.

I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to watch your traffic to even more people.


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Hello all,

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

³ I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:
³
³ 1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice ³ 2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
³ 3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich
³
³ I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin. ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Your time was wasted by ̹ƒlian

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[snip]

I don't use it myself. I use firefox with some hardcore privacy configurat and LAN-level advertisement and tracker blocking instead.

³ That reminds me that I need to set up Pi-Hole on either my desktop or my
³ Raspberry Pi Zero W....
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Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Sep 11 2024 02:54 pm

I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to watch your traffic to even more people.

i wouldn't trust it. you're sending your data through random people, most of them not very nice people. furthermore the us govt developed it and released it to the public.

it's worse than just using the internet on your own connection.
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halian wrote to Gamgee <=-

Wondering if anyone is using the 'Brave' browser. Been seeing some stories about it, and it claims to prioritize user privacy and do a
good job at ad-blocking. Installed it on my wife's Windows machine and
it seemed pretty decent. Thinking about trying it on Linux but wanted
to know if there are any first-hand experienced user stories on it.

<Stupid "color codes" removed>

I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:

1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with
false choice
2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich

I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.

1. Okay, so a Chromium fork is "bad", but a Firefox fork is fine.
Got it.

2. Inextricably? It's a simple opt-out choice at initial browser
setup.

3. I don't give a shit about something like that.

------------------------------- Your time was wasted by }{ƒlian

You got one right.

Must be that time of the month - you show up and dump 15 messages or so
across the echos, and then disappear again for a month. Do us all a
favor and don't come back next month, eh?



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I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:

1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice

Most all browsers, including now Microsoft's Edge, are forked from either Chromium or the Mozilla/Firefox family tree. IIRC, Opera is now a fork of
one or the other, and Safari might be the only well-known browser left that isn't a fork of one of those two.

I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
See. ;)


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Re: Brave browser
By: Dumas Walker to HALIAN on Thu Sep 12 2024 09:29 am

Most all browsers, including now Microsoft's Edge, are forked from either Chromium or the Mozilla/Firefox family tree. IIRC, Opera is now a fork of

I think the point was it just not to be Chrome or Chromium.

Firefox just announced something about AI in its browser. I'm hoping the FF forks leave that stuff out.

There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken.

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º I think the point was it just not to be Chrome or Chromium. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
º Exactly. >.>
ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ

º Firefox just announced something about AI in its browser. I'm hoping the FF
º forks leave that stuff out. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
º As do I. I'm sick of AI worming its way into everything, and
º enshittification more generally.
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º There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one
º might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken. ÈÍËÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ [quote from phigan]
º I wasn't aware that it was ever *not* Chromium-based. :o
ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ Your time was just wasted by ̹ƒlian

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Hello MRO!

** On Wednesday 11.09.24 - 21:17, MRO wrote to Arelor:

I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure. Exit nodes may
attempt to sniff at your traffic, but since every modern service you may
use on the clearnet is encrypted then it does not make much of a
difference, not to mention if you don't use Tor you give the chance to
watch your traffic to even more people.

i wouldn't trust it. you're sending your data through random people, most of them not very nice people. furthermore the us govt developed it and released it to the public.

The Exit nodes can potentially monitor your internet activity,
keep track of the web pages you visit, searches you perform,
and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
are operating exit nodes.

But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
sessions when using .onion destinations?


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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 07:39 pm

The Exit nodes can potentially monitor your internet activity,
keep track of the web pages you visit, searches you perform,
and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
are operating exit nodes.

But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
sessions when using .onion destinations?

if it's going through us govt nodes then encryption and privacy is probably useless.
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There was that other browser engine for a bit, Electron? I think that one might've gone over to the Chromium side too, if I'm not mistaken.

There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)


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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 07:39 pm

and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
are operating exit nodes.

It's been said that well over half the exit nodes are run by the government. It's also been said that exit connections can easily be associated with entrance connections when you happen through those.

Yes, when using .onion destinations, I believe those security risks don't apply.

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Re: Brave browser
By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Fri Sep 13 2024 08:36 am

There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)

yeah Webkit is a nice backup to have, but kinda sux if you try using it as your primary. It does work when something like Librewolf fails.

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WebKit is the browser engine underpinning Safari, as well as the
browsers built into the PS3/Nintendo 3DS and onward.

Good to know!


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But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
sessions when using .onion destinations?

if it's going through us govt nodes then encryption and privacy is probably useless.

I think it is based on govt tech but that the nodes that most users use are
not govt systems... unless you are implying that they are the actual source
of the dark web (which is interesting and possible).


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There is WebKit. Epiphany is based on it. However, it could very well be another name for Chromium or Mozilla/FF for all I know. :)

yeah Webkit is a nice backup to have, but kinda sux if you try using it as you
primary. It does work when something like Librewolf fails.

I have found that Epiphany chokes on some sites but it works way better, speedwise, on machines with fewer cores or less memory and in situations
where I need something a little more powerful than links2.


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Re: Re: Brave browser
By: Gamgee to halian on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:05 am

1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with
false choice

Gamgee >> 1. Okay, so a Chromium fork is "bad", but a Firefox fork is fine.

It is a bit of a matter of perspective. As far as Chromium remains open-source I don't think the monoculture aspect is too problematic. Still, it sucks when some non-standard becomes so dominant it starts being difficult to use any alternative. Thankfully, I think we are far from that point.

The only firefox fork I have ried s Pale Moon. It was ok, but the developpers were assholes and the whole deal was very Windows centric. They had a very "just use Windows" vibe that got them out of many repositories.


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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: Ogg to MRO on Thu Sep 12 2024 07:39 pm

The Exit nodes can potentially monitor your internet activity,
keep track of the web pages you visit, searches you perform,
and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
are operating exit nodes.

Well, I have doubts about that, considering most http traffic these days goes encapsulated in TLS.

An Exit node can't keep track of the sites you visit because different sites are accessed over different circuits. An exit node who gets a gazillion users through it cannot realistically determinate which site visits belong to a particular user either.

Searches cannot be tracked because the serch query is encrypted. Same with messages and the like.

But isn't there more confidence in privacy and encryted
sessions when using .onion destinations?

With onion destinations you generate to DNS query so I guess that is a win.

Still I prefer i2p.


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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Sep 16 2024 06:41 pm

and messages you send. No doubt some government institutions
are operating exit nodes.

Well, I have doubts about that, considering most http traffic these days goes encapsulated in TLS.

An Exit node can't keep track of the sites you visit because different sites are accessed over different circuits. An exit node who gets a gazillion users through it cannot realistically determinate which site visits belong to a particular user either.

Searches cannot be tracked because the serch query is encrypted. Same with messages and the like.

the probably is, you trust encryption. don't you think all the big govts have cracked that encryption or have a way around it? they are probably 10 years or more ahead of what we think they are.
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Re: Brave browser
By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Sun Sep 15 2024 09:49 am

speedwise, on machines with fewer cores or less memory and in situations where I need something a little more powerful than links2.

Nice, I've been looking for something for those situations. What's the "crappiest" computer you've used Epiphany on?

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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: MRO to Arelor on Tue Sep 17 2024 06:59 am

the probably is, you trust encryption. don't you think all the big govts have cracked that encryption or have a way around it? they are probably 10 years or more ahead of what we think they are.

I don't think they can crack something like modern TLS in real time. I am sure they have a bunch of pre-cracked primitives stored somewhere so they are likely to actually crack sessions... whether they can crack them soon enough for that to be useful is speculation.

Personaly I think it is not likely they can perform real time cracking, because when they have needed such a thing they have opted to bribe operators of the trust chain instead (in order to get fake certificates to attempt MITM).


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speedwise, on machines with fewer cores or less memory and in situations where I need something a little more powerful than links2.

Nice, I've been looking for something for those situations. What's the "crappiest" computer you've used Epiphany on?

Intel Atom x5-Z8350 quad-core with 2M Cache & 2GB DDR3L-1600 RAM

I actually thought it was a single core machine. This is a machine that
can play YT videos via Firefox usually ok but that chokes on other websites
and on other tasks. For example, I cannot run shotcut or the gimp on it
and expect things to go well and, with the most recent upgrade to debian bookworm, local video playback is choppy where it used to be smooth.

There are some sites that Epiphany will also choke on, but not as many as
when running firefox.

I need to try Epiphany on the dual-core Presario I have here and see what happens. OK, just tried it. Real slow but it did work and wasn't any
slower than firefox or chromium. I think that machine will be a
links2-only machine. ;)


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Re: I don't think the Tor network is inherently insecure
By: Arelor to MRO on Wed Sep 18 2024 03:41 pm

the probably is, you trust encryption. don't you think all the big govts have cracked that encryption or have a way around it? they are probably 10 years or more ahead of what we think they are.

I don't think they can crack something like modern TLS in real time. I am sure they have a bunch of pre-cracked primitives stored somewhere so they

you have no idea what they can do. nobody does.

Personaly I think it is not likely they can perform real time cracking, because when they have needed such a thing they have opted to bribe operators of the trust chain instead (in order to get fake certificates to attempt MITM).

why not have both?
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Re: Brave browser
By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Thu Sep 19 2024 09:39 am

Intel Atom x5-Z8350 quad-core with 2M Cache & 2GB DDR3L-1600 RAM

I actually thought it was a single core machine. This is a machine that can

I bought hundreds of Dell E420s, neat little systems with a Core 2 Duo, 1.2 ghz. For the time, it was a great traveler PC - lightweight, and the high-capacity battery stuck out the front, making for a makeshift keyboard rest.

I had one that kept coming back because people reported it was too slow. It had the same stickers and config as the others, but when I ran CPU-Z, realized it had a 1.0 ghz Core 2 Solo. I'd never *heard* of that chip.

It explained why the battery lasted so long. I kept it around, Dell sent me a properly spec'ed D420 to replace it and didn't ask for a return.
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Intel Atom x5-Z8350 quad-core with 2M Cache & 2GB DDR3L-1600 RAM

I actually thought it was a single core machine. This is a machine that ca

I bought hundreds of Dell E420s, neat little systems with a Core 2 Duo, 1.2 ghz. For the time, it was a great traveler PC - lightweight, and the high-capacity battery stuck out the front, making for a makeshift keyboard rest.

Yeah, just because some of them sound underpowered doesn't mean they don't
have their uses.

I had one that kept coming back because people reported it was too slow. It ha
the same stickers and config as the others, but when I ran CPU-Z, realized it had a 1.0 ghz Core 2 Solo. I'd never *heard* of that chip.

It explained why the battery lasted so long. I kept it around, Dell sent me a properly spec'ed D420 to replace it and didn't ask for a return.

LOL, it does explain why the battery lasted longer. I have not heard of
that chip, either. It was nice of them to send out the proper one and not ask for a return.


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³ I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:
³
³ 1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice
³ 2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
³ 3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich
³
³ I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.

I can agree with part 1, Brave should have used the firefox engine or
the engine from Safari instead. Browser makers don't want to do it the
hard way.

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Firefox just announced something about AI in its browser. I'm hoping the FF forks leave that stuff out.

AI= Bloat, and the API for AI providers is not free either. My favorite
email client wants people to pay 40/yr for using the AI APIS.

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³ I avoid it like the plague for a few different reasons:
³
³ 1. It's a Chromium fork, thus polluting the browser market with false choice
³ 2. It's inextricably linked to cryptocurrency (specifically BAT)
³ 3. It's run by outspoken anti-LGBTQIA+ activist Brendan Eich
³
³ I currently use Floorp (a Firefox fork) with æBlock Origin.

I can agree with part 1, Brave should have used the firefox engine or
the engine from Safari instead. Browser makers don't want to do it the hard way.

Except for those that do, because the only rule that has no exception is that every rule has an exception. :P

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Re: Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 16 2024 18:34:03

It is a bit of a matter of perspective. As far as Chromium remains open-source I don't think the monoculture aspect is too
problematic. Still, it sucks when some non-standard becomes so dominant it starts being difficult to use any alternative.
Thankfully, I think we are far from that point.

Personally I'm more into Firefox. I don't know why, because it's just a browser, but I still prefer it to Chrome and Chromium-based browsers.

The only firefox fork I have ried s Pale Moon. It was ok, but the developpers were assholes and the whole deal was very Windows
centric. They had a very "just use Windows" vibe that got them out of many repositories.

Yeah, that's pretty bad... Heard that Pale Moon developer(s) killed MyPal too. I'll have to find a replacement for it on my older Windows installations.
RetroZilla doesn't solve some SSL/TLS incompatibilities that happen in my use case, but Pale Moon does it pretty okay... unless the website depends too much on JavaScript and CSS 3.

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Re: Re: Brave browser
By: Neko to Arelor on Mon Sep 30 2024 04:18 pm

Personally I'm more into Firefox. I don't know why, because it's just a browser, but I still prefer it to Chrome and Chromium-based browsers.

I personally prefer Firefox because it is relatively easy to fix.

I say this because most web browsers are broken, in the sense that they leak a whole lot of information about what you do to third parties via telemetric services and the like. With Firefox you can load the arkenfox user.sj file and remove the issue in one sweep.


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Re: Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to Neko on Thu Oct 03 2024 07:20 pm

Personally I'm more into Firefox. I don't know why, because it's just a browser, but I still prefer it to Chrome and Chromium-based browsers.

I personally prefer Firefox because it is relatively easy to fix.

I say this because most web browsers are broken, in the sense that they leak a whole lot of information about what you do to third parties via telemetric services and the like. With Firefox you can load the arkenfox user.sj file and remove the issue in one sweep.

i ditched firefox because it used to have all those memory holes. i only used it for the addons. now with chrome they have the addons i can use so i'm happier.
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Re: Re: Brave browser
By: Arelor to Neko on Thu Oct 03 2024 19:20:54

I personally prefer Firefox because it is relatively easy to fix.

I say this because most web browsers are broken, in the sense that they leak a whole lot of information about what you do to third parties via telemetric
services and the like. With Firefox you can load the arkenfox user.sj file and remove the issue in one sweep.

Cool! I'll have to try it.

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