I think it is too. it was more like a punishment. Not only do children spend all their day in school, but then they have to do work for 2 hrs
at home when they could be doing anything else. I had 2 teachers who

Yep. I've raised this with the teachers for one of my kids. I explained that kids (and we're talking younger here) spend the day at school doing alot (whether it be educaitonal or fun / play / not maths, english, etc) - their brains are still developing and they get mentally tired.

We do what we can - we help our kids with it as well. But if they are tired, its not worth the pain for both parents and kids. The teachers down here get it though..

I think "old school" teachers don't.

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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: blinx to MRO on Tue May 28 2024 04:04 pm

for 2 hrs
at home when they could be doing anything else. I had 2 teachers who

Yep. I've raised this with the teachers for one of my kids. I explained that kids (and we're talking younger here) spend the day at school doing alot (whether it be educaitonal or fun / play / not maths, english, etc) - their brains are still developing and they get mentally tired.

We do what we can - we help our kids with it as well. But if they are tired, its not worth the pain for both parents and kids. The teachers down here get it though..

I think "old school" teachers don't.

I know teaching is a very hard job. I have friends who were teachers and left it for various reasons. The pay and high cost of insurance was the reason for one of them, the children's behavior and lack of support for teachers was another.

You'd have to be crazy to want to be a teacher.

I feel like an armchair quarterback by talking badly about teachers, but from my end as a parent and someone who's raised multiple teachers I think i deserve to be heard. I've tried to talk it out but teachers aren't really responsive.

I've spent many nights at the kitchen table helping the kids do their homework when it's late in the night. They should be winding down and relaxing. What usually ends up happening is I learned that their mind is too worn out at this point and I do the homework for them. It's not helping anybody at that point.

When my son would get home i'd get food in his stomach and then we'd try to bang out the homework. again, that is a time when he should be resting and having some recreation. he's been at school for 8 hrs!

So from what i've seen with my stepdaugher is they cut homework but then they are passing kids that arent prepared. you just cant win.
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think i deserve to be heard. I've tried to talk it out but teachers aren't really responsive.

I think thats a bit of a difference between US and Australia around the education system. There is alot of support for teachers, and they absolutely give back to the kids and the community through their work. There are also parents out there that just abuse th teachers as well. Its a bit pf a thankless job and there are some out there that just ruin it.

I reckon one day we'll be in the same kind of position though. I don't know how alot of them do it.

Also different sizes of population, literacy levels, demographics, etc. It makes it a very complex problem.

When my son would get home i'd get food in his stomach and then we'd try to bang out the homework. again, that is a time when he should be

We do similar - my son who is older, goes and does his home work (but thats high scholl). My daughter who is younger, we limit it to one day - actually one afternoon really.

Back on topic (ish) ...I could do with a Big Mac ;)

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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I think what the powers that be are shooting for are live-work
buildings. No need for a car. no need to leave. In some cases if you

That sounds horible. I thought a tech company tried this and it failed
on them?

you live. It's like you're in prison 24/7. I've been doordashing a little bit and i've already seen some of these places. They make it attractive but they are still cages.

Not for me.

Shawn

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I think there's a scarey amount of npc people that exist amongst us. They can >put on clothing, eat and drive cars. They can reproduce. Not much else.

And the 18+ year olds among them can vote.


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Arelor wrote to MRO <=-

Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: MRO to fusion on Sun May 26 2024 05:34 pm

right now they dont do much homework because the millenial teachers don't like grading it.

I feel most homework was a waste of time.

My daughter is going into high school and is going to have a wake-up
call. In middle school/junior high school (6th through 8th grades) they
did all of their classwork in the class. I see some merit in that, as
they're supervised and can get assistance if needed.

Part of the progression in the American school system is getting kids
aligned to multi-day projects, i.e. tasks that take more than one class
session or one homework session. My son did that in 8th grade, getting
the hang of multi-week projects that required planning and scheduling.

My daughter is still in the "you do today's homework today, then you're
done" mindset. I assume that's going to change next year.




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Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

I could understand someone a lot younger not having a clue, but it surprised me a little that someone so close in age never learned about either of those events.

I couldn't imagine any journalism major not watching "All the
President's Men". Although "journalism" probably doesn't mean
investigative journalism any more. I could imagine a marketing
"influencer" thinking of themselves as a journalist.

There's a great book called The "Dictionary of Cultral Literacy" that
every young adult should have - it has a quick precis of events and
items that people should know about and why they're important.

From the description:

In this fast-paced information age, how can Americans know what's really important and what's just a passing fashion? Now more than ever, we need
a source that concisely sums up the knowledge that matters to Americans
-- the people, places, ideas, and events that shape our cultural
conversation. With more than six thousand entries,The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy is that invaluable source.
Wireless technology. Gene therapy. NAFTA. In addition to the thousands
of terms described in the original Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, here
are more than five hundred new entries to bring Americans' bank of
essential knowledge up to date. The original entries have been fully
revised to reflect recent changes in world history and politics,
American literature, and, especially, science and technology. Cultural
icons that have stood the test of time (Odysseus, Leaves of Grass,
Cleopatra, the Taj Mahal, D-Day) appear alongside entries on such varied concerns as cryptography, the digital divide, the European Union,
Kwanzaa, pheromones, SPAM, Type A and Type B personalities, Web
browsers, and much, much more.


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Tiny wrote to MRO <=-

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I think what the powers that be are shooting for are live-work
buildings. No need for a car. no need to leave.

That sounds horible. I thought a tech company tried this and it failed
on them?

Facebook has built a campus in Menlo Park with housing, dining,
entertainment, and more. It was finished right before COVID and remote
work, I'm not sure what happened to it.

From my perspective, it seems like another means of extracting more
work out of employees, and building an echo chamber of like minds -
which isn't necessarily a good thing.

They're also targeting recent college grads, who may have been
comfortable in a social/college work environment where you worked and
lived in the same environment without a sense of worktime/social time.
Moving from that environment to a similar corporate environment would
make it difficult to create separate work and social lives or work/life
balance.

And, what happens if/when you're laid off? I couldn't imagine losing your
job and having to look for a place to rent at the same time. That's
almost as bad as getting a grace period and living in the company of
people you no longer work with.

you live. It's like you're in prison 24/7. I've been doordashing a little bit and i've already seen some of these places. They make it attractive but they are still cages.

Not for me.

Shawn

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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: blinx to MRO on Tue May 28 2024 05:56 pm

high scholl). My daughter who is younger, we limit it to one day - actually one afternoon really.

Back on topic (ish) ...I could do with a Big Mac ;)

yeah this is dovenet where threads drift off from the subject. usually i change the subjectline.

do you guys have the mcdonalds app over there? in the usa you can really cut costs with it.
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Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue May 28 2024 06:19 am

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I think what the powers that be are shooting for are live-work buildings. No need for a car. no need to leave. In some cases if you

That sounds horible. I thought a tech company tried this and it failed
on them?

Maybe one did and failed. I know they have them in other countries.

the one i saw over here had a grocery store, shopping, movie theater, housing and businesses all in one.
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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue May 28 2024 10:00 am

I think there's a scarey amount of npc people that exist amongst us. They can >put on clothing, eat and drive cars. They can reproduce. Not much else.

And the 18+ year olds among them can vote.

we also had a discussion at my job a while back about how people do not speak up. we had some people that were trained by a poor trainer. despite this they all gave great scores on their training and didn't speak up.

the girl that gave it a 7 out of 5 was put on the floor. she immediately said she didn't know anything and didn't know what to do.

Young people just don't want to upset people or stand out. They are afraid of going against the grain.
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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue May 28 2024 12:23 pm

Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue May 28 2024 10:00 am

I think there's a scarey amount of npc people that exist amongst us. They can >put on clothing, eat and drive cars. They can reproduce. Not much else.

And the 18+ year olds among them can vote.

we also had a discussion at my job a while back about how people do not speak up. we had some people that were trained by a poor trainer. despite this they all gave great scores on their training and didn't speak up.

the girl that gave it a 7 out of 5 was put on the floor. she immediately said she didn't know anything and didn't know what to do.

Young people just don't want to upset people or stand out. They are afraid of going against the grain.

There is a reason for that. It is pure game theory.

Already in my generation, in school, the cult of mediocrity was getting established. If you were a good student you made the other students look bad, so people disliked you. If you pointed out at problems that needing fixing, you were bad news, because now they had to go and fix it, and people disliked you even more.

Compound this over a few decades and what you have is people who has learnt that trying to do the right thing will get them scorned, ridiculed and mocked at best by their peers.

I only see people enjoying being productive when they have no peers on their same level and they have bosses who don't go bonkers when a problem is pointed out for them. Or when they are their own bosses.


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Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

entertainment, and more. It was finished right before COVID and
remote work, I'm not sure what happened to it.

Knowing meta they made people come back to it. ;)

And, what happens if/when you're laid off? I couldn't imagine losing
your job and having to look for a place to rent at the same time.

This is a nightmare to be sure.


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I could understand someone a lot younger not having a clue, but it surprised me a little that someone so close in age never learned about either of those events.

I couldn't imagine any journalism major not watching "All the
President's Men". Although "journalism" probably doesn't mean
investigative journalism any more. I could imagine a marketing
"influencer" thinking of themselves as a journalist.

They graduated college in 2000, long before "influencer" was a thing. :)
IIRC, their precise major was photo journalism, so maybe they only had to
learn how to take the pictures that tell the story and not about anything historical.

We watched that movie in high school. They went to a different high
school, but in a district where the schools are usually better. History
was something I was always interested in and I would seek out opportunities
to learn about it. Maybe they were not as interested or inclined.

Still I was shocked they didn't know about either event.


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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Mickey to MRO on Sun May 26 2024 07:55 pm



Carpentry skillss needed in Canada? Why would Canada have trouble finding folks who work in construction ?


What about brick laying? & What is the pay & job security like?

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Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Djatropine to Mickey on Sun Jun 02 2024 02:35 am

Re: Re: morgan spurlock dead
By: Mickey to MRO on Sun May 26 2024 07:55 pm

Carpentry skillss needed in Canada? Why would Canada have trouble finding folks who work in construction ?

What about brick laying? & What is the pay & job security like?

hey please quote.

usually ctrl+q
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