Quoting Ravne to Gamgee <=-

where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about
we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.

I don't support "pride". I could care less what your or anyone else does
in the bedroom. It really is at the very BOTTOM of the list of causes that
we should be worried about. You sleep with / love who ever the hell you
want.

Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and
will save the world.

Shawn

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How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I

That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.

Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of
race, gender, or sexual orientation.

They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as
"entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key
there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.

They also think that social media personality = a career.


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Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on
LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly >want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make child marriage legal.

I don't think he has called them all groomers and pedos. That said there
are persons who have indeed tried to get under the LGBTQ+ unbrella that all groomers and pedos. My understanding is that most LGB community members
are just as concerned about that as straight people are, and they don't
want the groomers/pedos in their community. I am guessing you fall into
that "concerned members" group?

Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically
people did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push
to have that happen here in the US lately.


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Tiny wrote to RAVNE <=-

Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.

Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)



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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.

They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.

I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.

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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.

Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.

I am a straight white guy and I've feelt disadvantaged my entire life.
I feel like I have a target on my back in the workplace. I don't even talk to women and you can't use racial identifiers or people think you are racist. I even say black guy, white guy, big dude, etc.

They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what

yeah my ex's dad was a 'boomer' and people talked shit to him on facebook. he was a prolific flame warrior like myself. that being said, dude worked for everything he had. he worked when on vacation. he was a sales guy for industrial cnc machines. A lot of our vacations included a 1 day business meeting for him.

and then when he died his daughter who had nothing got all his money. she thought he was a piece of crap because he moved her around a lot when she was a kid. i pointed out he was trying to be a provider and during those times there were bad recessions where a lot of people couldn't find work.
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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue May 28 2024 12:27 pm

I am a straight white guy and I've feelt disadvantaged my entire life. I

You said in an earlier message that you're black..? This was a message you posted to Ravne this past Friday:

people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other women

what are you talking about? i'm black.

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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to RAVNE on Tue May 28 2024 10:22 am

Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have that happen here in the US lately.

Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.

The committee's chair, Rep. Jim Murphy, a St. Louis-area Republican, said in an interview that there aren't enough votes within the committee to get it to the House floor.

Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"

Murphy, who supports the bill, said of the opposition. "There's just enough members in that committee that don't think that's a good idea." One of those lawmakers is Rep. Dean Van Schoiack, a Savannah Republican and vice chair of the committee. Van Schoiack said in an interview that he knows people who got married as minors, including a woman at roughly age 17. The couple, he said, is "still madly in love with each other."

"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"
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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue May 28 2024 05:54 pm

"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?" ht tps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html#stor y link=cpy

I say let them do it, especially if they have children. I'm not for much older marrying younger, though.

I had a kid young and i would have married young if i had the opportunity at the time. we were in a 'common law' marriage for 11 years. that's better than most adults I know.

I also didn't live with my parents until I was 35.

Marriage is such a joke now. People shouldn't marry without an ironclad prenup. Even if you're poor.
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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Tue May 28 2024 08:09 am

Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.

"Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"


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Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.

Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

Even that would be amazing.

(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for
it.)

So true.

Shawn

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Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.

They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.

I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.

Exactly the types I was thinking of. The folks in that category are almost exclusively young and are very entitled. Very few, if any, older men or
women in that group of any race, gender, or orientation.


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Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people >> did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have >> that happen here in the US lately.

Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.

OK, so they apparently already are legal if they were trying to ban them.

Who is trying to make them legal in places where marriage between the age
of 16-18 isn't *already* legal?

Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"

So it is not ok for a 16-or-17 year old to be married (with parental
consent) but it is ok to expose that "child," and ones even younger, to books with pornographic images (just so long as they are same-sex images), even
when the parents oppose the idea?

"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or
17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead
and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"

So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.

By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
just like Missouri does.

On the surface, I don't think that is a good idea to allow those < 18 to get married, but it sounds like they already do.


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Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.

(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

This.


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Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention as derogatory terms, also.

+1


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My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't >want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay black toaster or >whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or >anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..

Agreed. It is not my business and I don't care for it to be. As long as
it doesn't interfere with my life, you should be free to live yours as you please.


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I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn well right,
we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expec
for themselves. Pride is about normalizing our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".

You already have all the rights that straight people have. If someone is trying to murder you, or is otherwise violating those rights, they are criminals.

By the way, thank you for your service.


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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 29 2024 04:34 am

(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)

I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.

"Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"

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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 29 2024 08:11 am

So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.

By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
just like Missouri does.

he picked it because it's in the headlines. news is entertainment now.
my state of wisconsin allows marrying at 16 with consent of guardian.
MANY states allow marrying at the age of 16 with consent.

So what these legislators who said no really want is to keep out of people's business.

We have bigger fish to fry. btw, look at congress' minutes. those people can't decide on SHIT. they go to lunch and break more than they discuss and vote on bills.
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Dumas Walker wrote to ACCESSION <=-

Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags, pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!

You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention

as

derogatory terms, also.

+1

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+1

+2,000,000

When I am reading via a QWK reader I cannot upvote things. :D


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I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't
want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do >> think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.

I have a big issue when somebody claims that you either support him or you are >his enemy. That trait becomes an extremist and the claim is most often false >than true.

Exactly. It is an extremist viewpoint. I could support something, or be apathetic towards it, but still be critical of the methods being used to acheive/express that something.


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I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.

Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.

I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
That'd be a nice setup! :D

Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my
father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)


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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to PHIGAN on Wed Jun 05 2024 08:51 am

I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
That'd be a nice setup! :D

Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)

atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
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atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.

;(

True, and I am glad I do still have one.


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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jun 06 2024 09:24 am

atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.

;(

True, and I am glad I do still have one.

i'm just jerking your chain. she did die though.
so did her sister a year later. then another sister died of cancer last summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
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summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

That will unfortunately do it.


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Re: Re: BBS community improve
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jun 07 2024 08:29 am

summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

That will unfortunately do it.

When I was in 5th grade, I remember the class having an assignment to make some mock advertisements to promote health and not doing unhealthy things. I remember one of the students drew a graveyard with "Marlboro country" written below it.

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summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.

That will unfortunately do it.

When I was in 5th grade, I remember the class having an assignment to make som
mock advertisements to promote health and not doing unhealthy things. I remember one of the students drew a graveyard with "Marlboro country" written below it.

Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to
believe they might be healthy.

By the time I came along, there was already some PSA advertising,
especially from the American Cancer Society, about how smoking could kill
you. They had not yet got to promoting the dangers of second-hand smoke,
or smoking while pregnant, but they'd at least got as far as it could kill
you.

I had a lot of relatives, but none I lived with, that were life-long
smokers at the time. It was really difficult for them to even consider stopping. What surprised me was how many people my age, and slightly
younger, who picked up the habit despite the dire warnings.

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.


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Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.

We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it
let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my
HEALTHY low tar darts?

Shawn

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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.

Absolutely true. I remember those commercials in the 60's. Every now and then, my wife will point one of the printed ads that gets posted on facebook from time to time.

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:41 am

Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.

We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it
let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?

Shawn

I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one. If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of quitting.
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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 09 2024 07:36 am

Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

Back in the day, before my time (I am over 50), they promoted cigarettes differently. In some cases, I believe that consumers were even lead to believe they might be healthy.

Absolutely true. I remember those commercials in the 60's. Every now and then, my wife will point one of the printed ads that gets posted on facebook from time to time.

I'm surprised they didn't show ads with cartoon babies smoking. They probably tried to, but it was shot down.

They had doctors in ads, lucille ball and her husband. They said it relieved fatigue in sports. All kinds of dumb shit.

I don't think ads helped the sales. It's a drug and drugs sell themselves.
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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:41:00

Quoting Dumas Walker to Nightfox <=-

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a
comeback.

We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my HEALTHY low tar darts?

Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking, and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure and heart-rate stable.
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On 09 Jun 2024, MRO said the following...

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.

We can get rid of more stupid people. I say advertise it, promote it let them all smoke everywhere again. Who cares!?!? Where did I put my

I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i
was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one. If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of quitting.

i have a friend who quit the cigarette part as a side effect of going on
an anti-depressant, but pretty much immediately went to vaping instead.. he still goes outside and does the whole ceremony.

i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend
the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth
to smoke while i sat inside waiting. i don't miss hanging my jacket up on the deck to air it out though..

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: fusion to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 02:01 pm

i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting. i don't miss hanging my jacket up on the deck to air it out though..

in my area they just kept the ashtrays out and paid the little fine.
eventually owners changed and they took that away.

i have mixed feelings. I don't like stinking like cigs.
they should just have bars with smoking and bars with non smoking.

furthermore, part of my reason for quitting is people were always hitting me up for cigs. either random losers on the street or people who quit buying cigs and just borrow from people. totally annoying.

my casino went to non smoking and i wonder how that hurt them. nobody there is going to go into a smoking area. they want to smoke at the machines.
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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sat Jun 08 2024 10:34 am

I had a lot of relatives, but none I lived with, that were life-long smokers at the time. It was really difficult for them to even consider stopping. What surprised me was how many people my age, and slightly younger, who picked up the habit despite the dire warnings.

It surprises me even more now that cigarette smoking seems to be making a comeback.

That surprises me too. :(

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Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Tiny on Sun Jun 09 2024 11:18 am

Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking, and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure and heart-rate stable.

I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.

My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...

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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on.
It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped
when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.

I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.

If you have friends who smoke you pretty much have no chance of
quitting.

I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.

Shawn

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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Sun Jun 09 2024 19:48:15

Suprising enough, My health problems did'nt start until I stopped smoking,
and other lifestyle changes to try to benefit my health. It was a real
shock to my body I guess.. took about 3-4 years to get my blood pressure
and heart-rate stable.

I quit in 2008 and other than the normal bs that goes with being a diabetic, I didn't really have any other issues.

I never had I blood-sugar until after I quit smoking and drinking sodas, etc.. I'ts crazy.. All of it started less than a month after I stopped, But I had also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have had more to do with a lot of the health issues.

My wife finally quit a little over a year ago. It was killing her. Less that three weeks after quitting, her face had completely changed and she looked much more lively and younger. She can't breathe anymore and she has gained about 20 lbs but I am just so glad she finally quit...

I'm happy I stopped too.. It's crazy I tried and tried to stop smoking numerous times and never could, then one day I just had an epiphany that I was not going to die young and leave a good looking corps like I thought I was going to. That I was actually probably going to live a lot longer than I thought and I wanted my body to be able to keep up with my mind. After that I just could'nt smoke anymore. cigarettes tasted like crap.. I kept a pack in my pocket for a whole week just in case, but I just could'nt light another up.

The opiotes were a little harder to come off of after so many years of use and abuse, it wasnt like I was getting high off them anymore, I was just maintaining. But I'm so happy to be off all that.. And sugary drinks too.. I stopped it all, all around the same time 4 years ago.

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.
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Re: Re: Smoking
By: fusion to MRO on Sun Jun 09 2024 02:01 pm

i actually somewhat miss it when people could smoke indoors. i remember one weekend everyone hanging out in the bar having a blast and the next weekend the law changed and it became this routine of people heading back and forth to smoke while i sat inside waiting.

Some of my family smokes, and even at home, they like to smoke outside so that they don't smoke up the inside of their house. So when I'm at their house, I either sit inside while they go outside to smoke, or I go out with them.

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32 am

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I have noticed that there's a lot of smokers, and they continue on. It's extremely addicting. I started smoking around 10 and I stopped when i was 28 and I still want a cig when I smell someone smoking one.

I don't miss it at all anymore. The smell is pretty disgusting to me now.

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

just the regular smoke is ok for me sometimes.

I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.

i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.
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Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 09 2024 06:32 pm

cigarette smoking seems to be
making a comeback.

That surprises me too. :(

I heard that in some European
countries, doctors say that up to 5
cigarettes a day is totally fine.

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Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

also stopped a long bout of an opoid
addiction so I'm sure that may have

Awesome that you kicked that. But, if
you ever (EVER) decide to try again,
PLEASE remember that you don't need to
take as much as you did when you
regularly did them, and only take a
tiny fraction of what you did before.

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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes
and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

i guess you didnt have the junkie effect.

I was pretty lucky I guess. Every vice I've quit there have been no
real effects.

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even around when smoking or anything.

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Re: Smoking
By: phigan to kk4qbn on Mon Jun 10 2024 18:24:47

Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

also stopped a long bout of an opoid addiction so I'm sure that may have

Awesome that you kicked that. But, if you ever (EVER) decide to try again, PLEASE remember that you don't need to take as much as you did when you regularly did them, and only take a tiny fraction of what you did before.

Yep, I've known of a couple people that have died that way. Addiction is bad and one cannot let themselves think that they are above it, or over it.. theres always that one event, sound, smell, or anything that could trigger a relapse. So definaly I stay very aware of that and use time to stop and think. It's definatly not worth it, I have distanced myself from ANYONE I used to hang with. It's far too dangerous anymore to fool with anything, they are putting carfentanil in EVERYTHING, spiking pain pills, xanax. vapes. marijuana, I mean everything. and it's crazy.. there is definatly no room for complacency.
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Re: Smoking
By: kk4qbn to Bf2k+ on Mon Jun 10 2024 08:20 am

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

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Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Mon Jun 10 2024 06:32:00

Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

I was still able to quit. It wasn't easy, but it wasn't like I was
climbing the walls either. Smoked for over 1/2 my life at the time I
quit.

I don't want to belabor this but, I started smoking at 12 yo, and gave it by best until I had the (almost) BIG one at 60 yo and got me a membership in the chest scar club. Soon as I felt better, I lit up. 4 years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

It's tough man. Sing like a baratone now. :-)


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Quoting Mickey to Tiny <=-

years after that i found out I had throat cancer and spent 4 months at Princess Margaret getting 'the works' during Covid. I STILL stared at butt's on the ground. Finally quit!

At least you quit eventually! ;) I had oral cancer in 2007 and that was
it for me, Doc said it had a much better chance of not coming back if I
didn't smoke again, so I didn't.

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Re: Smoking
By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Tue Jun 11 2024 11:19 am

Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

Me too... :)

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phigan wrote to Tiny <=-

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to
air out my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him,
not even around when smoking or anything.

Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
20s.



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whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never
could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I
know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an
ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
her when I was younger! :o


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It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to
find (especially the first two).

My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)


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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:29 am

It seems to me things like that in moderation are okay. Pepsi is one of my
favorite sodas (I like it better than Coke).

I prefer Double Cola, Red Rock, or RC, but they can be more difficult to find (especially the first two).

I haven't heard of the first 2. I like RC though.

My real soda "vices" are Ski and Ale-8-One. ;)

I haven't heard of those either. :)

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Re: Smoking
By: Bf2k+ to kk4qbn on Tue Jun 11 2024 10:44 am

To this day I still cannot stand to smell cigarettes and cant stand the taste or the consistancy of a soda, cannot believe I used to consume so much of that crap.

Pepsi is the last of my 'vices' and one I need to stop and soon...

I quit soda years ago and I was a habitual drinker. I just quit cold turkey and don't have any suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I realize it's not the same thing and might even be not attactive, I certainly didn't like them. But I do now and it fills the need when I need it.

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Re: Re: Smoking
By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Wed Jun 12 2024 05:53 am

Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my
20s.

And not of goths? :)

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Re: Smoking
By: The Lizard Master to Bf2k+ on Wed Jun 12 2024 03:58 am

carbonated water. It kind of fakes me out a little that I'm having a soda. I

Funny you mention the faking out thing. Sometimes I'll have a carbonated water and it tricks my brain into thinking I'm having an alcoholic drink, and then it makes me want a cigarette.

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Re: Smoking
By: Dumas Walker to TINY on Wed Jun 12 2024 08:26 am

whats disgusting is when people hit it hard and it's in their clothes and their whole body. that smells horrible.

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

yeah, i had a coworker who smoked a lot and didn't smell. she would just smoke outside.
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On Wed Jun 12 03:58:00 2024, The Lizard Master wrote to Bf2k+ <=-

suggestions other than when I feel a hankering I actually have carbonated water. It kind of

I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda now. It does fool me into
thinking I'm not missing out.

I do the same thing with the fake beer and fake booze. I don't feel I'm missing anything except the stuff that's bad for me. :)

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On Wed Jun 12 08:26:00 2024, Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-

When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she came
inside, as well as other washing tricks.

OTOH, about 10 years ago I went out for a few times with another gal who smoked. She was also, IMHO, an alcoholic. She often smelled like an ashtray that someone had spilled stale beer in. I am glad I didn't date
her when I was younger! :o

This is what my supervisor is like, he's a walking ashtray. LOL

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Clove cigarettes remind me of hacky sack, college quads, diner coffee, half-read philosophy paperbacks, cheap gas, road trips, and being in my 20s.

And not of goths? :)

When I was younger (late '80s/early '90s), the folks who smoked clove cigarettes were not goths. Most of the goths that smoked in college smoked
the real ones (and drank like fish).


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When I was ~25, I went out for a while with a lady who smoked. I never could figure out how she did it but she never smelled like she smoked. I know she smoked outside often, but I also know she smoked in her car and in other indoor places (you could smoke in restaurants back then, for example).

I knew a women like that, she told me the trick is to hand sanatize before she >came
inside, as well as other washing tricks.

Hand sanitizing wasn't a big thing back then. Washing was though. ;) I
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Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."




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Tiny wrote to The Lizard Master <=-

I've been doing this for years as well. In fact having a club soda
now. It does fool me into thinking I'm not missing out.

I drank tonic waters in clubs with lime and didn't miss the gin - it's
still a favorite drink of mine.



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Re: Re: Smoking
By: poindexter FORTRAN to All on Thu Jun 13 2024 07:09 am

Two hookers were talking on a street corner.

One of them asked "Do you smoke when you finish?"

The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."

reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:


... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

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Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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Re: Smoking
By: Wes Thomas to phigan on Sun Jun 16 2024 06:39 am

Re: Smoking
By: phigan to Tiny on Tue Jun 11 2024 05:53 am

Re: Smoking
By: Tiny to MRO on Tue Jun 11 2024 06:25 am

Yes it does. Even when they come in from outside after smoking the cheap native "bag o' smokes".

Ugh, I had a buddy that smoked cloves all the time. I actually had to air ou my clothes even when I'd ONLY been in the same room with him, not even aroun when smoking or anything.

clove cigarettes taste nice but i never thought of how it made those around me smell. now i will rethink that.

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The other one said "I don't know, I never looked."

reminds me of one of my favorite taglines:

... If you smoke after sex you're doing it too fast.

If you smoke after sex, use more lube.


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