'It's bittersweet': Video rental store to shut its doors after
40 years in business..

https://bb.vg/Kgyq

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/03/16/its-bittersweet-video- rental-store-to-shut-its-doors-after-40-years-in-business/

""Hollywood went on strike and that was the nail in the coffin.
We went so many months without movies," he said.

"Now, the strike is settled, but it's too late. People aren't coming back. The masses aren't going to come back to support the business."

Fuhl used to bring in an average of 36 new movie titles in a month. He said for all of last year, he had 14.



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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Ogg to All on Sun Mar 24 2024 11:07 am

'It's bittersweet': Video rental store to shut its doors after
40 years in business..

I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see peopleconsuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes are already
losing their luster.

That said, I don't think the crisis in movie rental comes from the fact modern movies suck.

I am so glad I can keep watching old movies forever.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:29 pm

I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see peopleconsuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes are already
losing their luster.

That said, I don't think the crisis in movie rental comes from the fact modern movies suck.

I am so glad I can keep watching old movies forever.

yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming.
only crazy people have vhs players nowadays. i'd rather get something via streaming than to go a store.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to Ogg on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:29 pm

I keep saying Hollywood is going through creative bankrupcy. I don't see people consuming movies as they used to because sequels/prequels/remakes are already
losing their luster.

I feel that way too, as it seems like there isn't as much creativity with new stories these days, with all the remakes and such. Honestly though I am looking forward to the Beetlejuice sequel coming out later this year (and from the teaser trailer it looks like it could be good). One thing I've been tired of for a while now is prequels.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:56 pm

yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming. only crazy people have vhs players nowadays.

I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

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On 01 Apr 2024, Arelor said the following...

I am so glad I can keep watching old movies forever.

someday your TV will include AI to automatically correct the "wrong think" in old movies too! they do already run software on many of those TVs to "watch" what you watch and report it somewhere.

seriously though.. i think they just hate money. we're at a point where you could ask a kid about modern movies and they'd say "they keep remaking old stuff." worse yet they don't have any sort of nostalgia connection to it, so the whole thing is wasted on them anyways. they basically made direct-to-video style movies their main attraction.

remakes can work but they want to geneder/race swap everyone and turn old characters into buffoons. there goes the nostalgia part. indiana jones is a loser now. imagine taking a franchise that was so incredibly strong a flaming piece of trash like the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull makes you $790 million on a 185mil budget (so ~605 mil "profit").. and turning it into a $384mil movie
that made $89mil profit.

i duno. plenty people still make cool stuff here and there.. just not huge awesome cool stuff.. heh

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:50 pm

I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just take up space.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: fusion to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 09:54 pm

million on a 185mil budget (so ~605 mil "profit").. and turning it into a $384mil movie that made $89mil profit.

mission impossible 7 lost a bit of money too i think. it was just a bad movie.

i duno. plenty people still make cool stuff here and there.. just not huge awesome cool stuff.. heh

we are getting to the point where people are sick of superhero movies.
they are going to have to find another fad to burn through.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 05:56 pm

yeah they suck but also a lot of people are streaming.
only crazy people have vhs players nowadays. i'd rather get something via streaming than to go a store.

I have an VCR, but I used it for digitizing my movies long ago. I keep it handy just in case.

A lot of good movies are not easy to find from streaming or even shady sources. I like having copies of everything that is good because you are not guaranteed to be able to find it later.

I had an VHS with a movie I recorded from TV when I was a kid. A couple of months ago I learnt that movie was considered lost for a long time because no complete copies of it remained. It turned out my crappy VHS copy was one of the remaining sources for that movie.

Too bad somebody else had a copy too and submitted it in order to get all the credit :-)


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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: fusion to Arelor on Mon Apr 01 2024 09:54 pm

someday your TV will include AI to automatically correct the "wrong think" in old movies too! they do already run software on many of those TVs to "watch" what you watch and report it somewhere.

I take good care of my multimedia equipment so I will keep using the same TV for decades. I have an start TV but it has no Internet connectivity. My tendency is to place stupid smartisms that need network access in a separate VLAN anyway.

seriously though.. i think they just hate money. we're at a point where you could ask a kid about modern movies and they'd say "they keep remaking old stuff." worse yet they don't have any sort of nostalgia connection to it, so the whole thing is wasted on them anyways. they basically made

Sure they like money. The problem is that making a movie is so expensive that taking risks is dangerous. It is like big videogame studios. If a game flops they get dangerously close to bankrupcy. Therefore, they tend to play it safe. Movies are the same, except I think moves that used to be safe are failing.

The fact there ios media overload does not help. Back in the day you had a dozen movies on your shelf and went to the cinema three times a year, so you valued the few films you got to experience. Now you fire up a streaming service and you have 900000 movies at your disposal, all of them looking very samey, and you just don't care as you used to. Then a gain, much like videogames.

i duno. plenty people still make cool stuff here and there.. just not huge awesome cool stuff.. heh

There is a whole lot of cool stuff but nowadays you find most of it out of Hollywood. There are independent Americans, but also Asians experimenting with new stuff. A lot of it sucks but sinde they are taking risks they actually produce nice things every now and then.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in
business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Apr 01 2024 04:50 pm

I think there are a lot of people with a collection of movies & such on old formats that they don't want to replace (due to what it would cost, or just not wanting to bother). And for people who still use physical media, I've been hearing that DVDs are still selling more than newer formats such as blu-ray (and 4K blu-ray) because there are a lot of people who just have DVD players and/or don't care about updating to something newer, or don't understand what advantage blu-ray offers over DVD.

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media.

That day is still a long ways off.

It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service.

What if you don't have an internet connection? When would that be, you
ask? Well.... for starters: When there's an extended (a week) power
outage. Yes, that happens where there are hurricanes. Or maybe you're
out camping in an RV in the boonies. There are plenty of other
situations where physical media is handy.

People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just
take up space.

See above re: long ways off.


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Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to
get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning mething that will just take up space.

The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that
there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get
what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but
when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the
cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot
of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.


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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:21 pm

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just take up space.

That's something I don't really agree with. While it's easier to get via streaming, streaming services often remove content from their services. Lately I've seen more and more people complain online about this, and I've seen people say they've actually started buying more physical media because they're tired of streaming services removing content they want to watch. Or, content may be initially included with your service, and suddenly they start charging a 'rental' fee to watch it. I've also heard some (rare) cases where people have bought a movie on a streaming service and it was later removed at some point.

Also, if you care, physical media offers a lot better visual & audio quality than streaming.

I still like to buy physical media for stuff I really like, so that I own it and don't have to worry about it disappearing. And I have a media server at home, and I tend to rip my stuff and put it on my media server so it can be more easily watched. Best of both worlds.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to fusion on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:24 pm

we are getting to the point where people are sick of superhero movies. they are going to have to find another fad to burn through.

I've been tired of superhero movies for years. There are only a few I really like.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Gamgee to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 07:59 am

What if you don't have an internet connection? When would that be, you ask? Well.... for starters: When there's an extended (a week) power outage. Yes, that happens where there are hurricanes. Or maybe you're out camping in an RV in the boonies. There are plenty of other situations where physical media is handy.

Yep. Sometimes streaming services remove content that people want to watch (I've been seeing people complain about this more and more lately). And sometimes you can run into buffering issues with streaming services, if there's a server issue somewhere or if too many people are trying to use the service at the same time.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:41 am

I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that involve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have a collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community enjoy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessories taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch of tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of cars they're working on fixing up). The list goes on..

Nightfox

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 07:10 am

I have an VCR, but I used it for digitizing my movies long ago. I keep it handy just in case.

A lot of good movies are not easy to find from streaming or even shady sources. I like having copies of everything that is good because you are not guaranteed to be able to find it later.

I had an VHS with a movie I recorded from TV when I was a kid. A couple of months ago I learnt that movie was considered lost for a long time because no complete copies of it remained. It turned out my crappy VHS copy was one of the remaining sources for that movie.

Too bad somebody else had a copy too and submitted it in order to get all the credit :-)

oh i'm pretty sure i can get any movie online now.
also we have a program with our libraries where you can order stuff from all over the state and have it shuttled over for free and you can check it out.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 08:41 am

The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

cable is expensive though. especially when you have internet/tv/phone.

it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service.
or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 09:25 am

I still like to buy physical media for stuff I really like, so that I own it and don't have to worry about it disappearing. And I have a media server at home, and I tend to rip my stuff and put it on my media server so it can be more easily watched. Best of both worlds.

well there's some people that get attached to physical things, and some that dont. i threw all my movie and music collections away and i just keep digital copies of them. they are mkv and they wont get deleted by some service.

if i lose the files i just download them from someplace.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 09:48 am

Re: Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to fusion on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:24 pm

we are getting to the point where people are sick of superhero movies. they are going to have to find another fad to burn through.

I've been tired of superhero movies for years. There are only a few I really like.

i'm pretty sure the last decent superhero movie i saw was black panther 1.

there are some real good DC animated movies. they just can't make good live action movies.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 09:53 am

There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that involve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have a collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community enjoy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessories taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch of tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of cars they're working on fixing up).
The list goes on..

yeah but it's nice to toss all that out and not have clutter.
cars and tools i would keep. just as long as the cars arent littering the yard and making an eye sore out of the property.


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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 04:43 pm

it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.

Nightfox

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Apr 02 2024 05:01 pm

Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Tue Apr 02 2024 04:43 pm

it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.

i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

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it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service. or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the commercials.

i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch
specific tv shows.

Ummmm.... that's exactly what a tuner/DVR/Plex gives you. What gets
recorded is only what *YOU* choose. Isn't that obvious?

we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for
background noise.

Who said anything about that?


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I do get the take up space bit, though. I am old enough that I have a lot >DW> of VHS tapes that I recorded things on over the years. A lot of them are >DW> getting thrown out as I get a chance. They take up a lot of space on
shelves that could be used for things I would get more use out of now.

There are a lot of things people like to do, hobbies, interests, etc. that inv
ve things that take up space.. Some people like to read books and might have collection of books that take up space. Or, some of us in the BBS community e
oy retro computers and might have a collection of computer hardware & accessor
s taking up space. Or, someone who likes working on cars might have a bunch o
tools taking up space in the garage (and sometimes even a small collection of rs they're working on fixing up). The list goes on..

That is sort of my thinking here, though. If I get rid of the VHS tapes, I have a lot more space for books or other hobby things. ;)


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The issue with streaming, for someone who thinks like me anyway, is that there are so many services you would have to subscribe to in order to get what you want. I know people who have replaced cable with streaming but when I talk to them about what services they have, and then calculate the cost, cable (and owning physical media) comes out cheaper.

cable is expensive though. especially when you have internet/tv/phone.

it's cheaper to get cable and then get a streaming service.
or be like me and download whatever you want and use plex.

*A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you
want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I
know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no longer cheaper than cable.

When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost
because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost,
and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.

That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying
for that separately, they don't count it either.


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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 03 2024 12:34 am

Where I am, I get fairly good over-the-air TV reception. I don't have
cable TV service. I also have a TV tuner that works with Plex, and I use
Plex to DVR some shows to watch at any time (mostly game shows like
Jeopardy, Family Feud, etc.). Also, when you do that, you can skip the
commercials.

i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here. Over-the-air TV is just another way of watching certain shows - some shows are available on over-the-air, and other shows are available elsewhere.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

I use the internet for a lot of things, so I wouldn't necessarily count it as a cost for a streaming service. I'm going to have internet service regardless of whether I use a streaming service or not.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 08:42 am

*A* streaming service, yes. But then what happens when not everything you want to watch is on that one service? If you are like a lot of people I know, you get another service... and then another... and then soon it is no longer cheaper than cable.

just download shit like me.
or you can subscribe to an iptv provider.

When I say "cable" I am not counting the internet or phone in the cost because (1) I have to have the internet (probably from cable) to get the streaming service which also makes it a part of the streaming service cost, and (2) streaming services won't replace the phone.

you can get cable only and just get ooma or something like that

That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is
cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the internet which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

usually you will save money by not having cable tv and using streaming.if you are someone who watches tons of shit maybe you will have to get multiple services. shop around. we did it the legit way and saved money. and we do it both ways now. the woman pays for streaming and i download whatever i want.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 09:30 am

i'm not sure that's something i'd want because we just watch specific tv shows. we aren't real couch potatoes that leave the tv on all day for background noise.

I don't leave the TV on all day either, and there are specific TV shows I watch from over the air.. I'm not sure I understand your response here.

what i'm saying is we watch specific things and we get them specificially.

you watch over the air and that is extremely rare. what you are getting over the air is probably something you can get for free or off some streaming service.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Apr 03 2024 06:19 pm

you watch over the air and that is extremely rare. what you are getting over the air is probably something you can get for free or off some streaming service.

Over the air is free - so I am getting it for free.. If it works, what would be the advantage of getting it from a streaming service instead (even if it was free there)?

I just checked online for Jeopardy, and apparently I could watch it with a free trial of DirecTV Stream (sounds like I'd have to start paying for it eventually), and if I don't care about DVRing it, it could be streamed live on Paramount+ with ShowTime to stream it live when it airs. I'd still prefer to use my Plex setup, as I can DVR it for free and watch it any time I want.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:21 pm

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media. It's so much easier to go get it via a streaming service. People are getting past the phase of owning something that will just take up space.

I have boxes and boxes with hundreds (possibly >1,000) DVDs and Blu-Rays that I still haven't unpacked despite moving house 18 months ago.

I probably won't unpack them until I want to watch something obscure that's not on streaming.

What I am getting tired of is the huge number of streaming services with content being pulled from an original service because a studio now has their own. I've now cancelled all but two services and just rotate through them when I get bored of the content. Disney+ was the one service I just cancelled despite being a subscriber since day 1 as it's doubled in price.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2024 04:57 pm

Over the air is free - so I am getting it for free.. If it works, what would be the advantage of getting it from a streaming service instead (even if it was free there)?

I just checked online for Jeopardy, and apparently I could watch it with a free trial of DirecTV Stream (sounds like I'd have to start paying for it

I think you can watch jeopardy with pluto.tv or some comparable service.

if it works for you, that's good. I don't know of people buying multiple streaming services. people i know that do it normally stick with one they like.

my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

apparently there's sites that will show what channels you can pickup in your area. i'm in a 'big' city and i have 10 i can pick up. I don't think i'd like to watch any of these channels, though.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Ewing to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 11:44 am

I probably won't unpack them until I want to watch something obscure that's not on streaming.

What I am getting tired of is the huge number of streaming services with content being pulled from an original service because a studio now has their own. I've now cancelled all but two services and just rotate through them when I get bored of the content. Disney+ was the one service I just cancelled despite being a subscriber since day 1 as it's doubled in price.

yeah but think of it this way: do you REALLY need all that stuff sitting around? do you need a video store's worth of vids in your home taking up space?

you can either rip it and store it on a harddrive or just get it online in most cases.

I don't think we'd need all these dvds sitting around unless there was an apocolypse and we were in a bunker with a generator. even then, it would be a waste of resources.

but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.
I know it's hard for some people because they develop attachments with inanimate objects.

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That is something else about the streamers I know who claim it is cheaper... they are not factoring in the delivery costs, i.e. the interne
which, for cable TV watchers, is usually bundled in. Since they are paying for that separately, they don't count it either.

I use the internet for a lot of things, so I wouldn't necessarily count it as cost for a streaming service. I'm going to have internet service regardless o
whether I use a streaming service or not.

Yes, but they cannot watch TV without it, much like they cannot without
cable or an antenna, so they should count it *IF* they are making a
comparison to the cost of cable TV.


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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:06 am

my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the past I liked to watch that were broadcast over the air, such as the various Star Trek shows in the 80s and 90s and other things. We often didn't have cable when I was growing up, but we could watch those shows over the air.

I think you can watch jeopardy with pluto.tv or some comparable service.

But then it would be difficult to record it and watch it later if I wanted to. I like that Plex lets you do that.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

I probably won't unpack them until I want to watch something obscure that's
not on streaming.

yeah but think of it this way: do you REALLY need all that stuff sitting around? do you need a video store's worth of vids in your home taking up space?

you can either rip it and store it on a harddrive or just get it online in most cases.

know it's hard for some people because they develop attachments with inanimate objects.

IMO it's not about "needing" it to sit around or developing attachments to the objects. Even if you rip it and store it on a hard drive, if you're concerned about legally owning a copy, it's good to keep the discs that you purchased. I also consider the discs a sort of backup. In case my ripped versions get deleted somehow, I can always re-rip them from the discs.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:06 am

if it works for you, that's good. I don't know of people buying multiple streaming services. people i know that do it normally stick with one they like.

We subscribe to Netflix, Apple TV+, Hulu, Max (HBO), and MLB TV. And it's still much cheaper than than the $120+/month I used to pay to DirecTV.
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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.
I know it's hard for some people because they develop attachments with inanimate objects.

And when you paid like $20/each for most of those DVDs that watched maybe only one time, you feel like you'd be throwing away something of value. But... not really. Donate them in that case.
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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 10:43 am

And when you paid like $20/each for most of those DVDs that watched maybe only one time, you feel like you'd be throwing away something of value. But... not really. Donate them in that case.

I only buy movies & shows I really like, and which I will probably watch more than once. So my collection isn't really very big, and I don't mind keeping them around. I don't watch them very often, and it's usually a while before I watch a movie again, but sometimes I do watch them again.

Years ago (around 2003 or 2004), I had started to collect DVDs that I realized I probably wouldn't watch again, and I sold a bunch of them on eBay (and that was back when it was fairly easy to sell DVDs). I haven't really thought about those ones since then, so it's probably good I sold them.

And currently there isn't much that I regularly watch on any streaming services, so I feel like I can't really justify spending money to subscribe to them. One exception is actually YouTube - Sometimes I randomly like to check out what's on YouTube and have foudn some interesting things there, and have subscribed to a few peoples' channels. I like watching the LGR guy sometimes (he posts videos of retro PC stuff), and there are some YouTube channels I've found where they regularly post videos about guitars & the music industry & such, which I find interesting sometimes.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.
I know it's hard for some people because they develop attachments with inanimate objects.

I consider it similar to coffee table books. Physical media is not only nostalgic, but is a good conversation starter.

The prison cell aesthetic is also nice.

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Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:50 am

my whole life I don't know anybody that uses an over the air antenna even though i know of people that got them when there was a credit.

I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the

well i wasnt thinking when i said that. what i meant to say was there
were few people who did it back in the day and after the big bandwidth switch many years ago, i don't know anybody else that did more than play with it. I don't know anybody who continued to use over the air.

even in a big city my options are really limited.

most people just prefer to get cable.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:21 pm

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media.

I will, for as long as it is being produced.

And then I'll have to resort to recording it to media myself.

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I'm surprised you've never known anyone watching over-the-air TV. Things like local news & weather, game shows, etc. are often broadcast on such channels, and I've known a lot of people who watch those things sometimes. If you have cable and watch those shows, they're likely on local channels you could also get over the air. There are also a lot of TV series in the

well i wasnt thinking when i said that. what i meant to say was
there were few people who did it back in the day and after the
big bandwidth switch many years ago, i don't know anybody else
that did more than play with it. I don't know anybody who
continued to use over the air.

even in a big city my options are really limited.

most people just prefer to get cable.

There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I
live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.



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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Skylar to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 06:59 pm

Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2024 10:21 pm

Well eventually nobody will be buying physical media.

I will, for as long as it is being produced.

And then I'll have to resort to recording it to media myself.

there's still people that buy cdrs and floppy disks. you will be one of the nobodys.

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Re: Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:34 pm

There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.

I fully agree. I don't live in a tropical area, and many people here have cable, but there are a good number of over-the-air TV channels that people can tune in here. I don't actually watch many of the channels, but there several stations with local and national news and weather, as well as TV shows (and as you said, sometimes sporting events - including the super bowl, usually). And especially since it's free and high definition, I'm surprised more people don't use it.

I don't watch a whole lot of TV, and there are things on over-the-air TV that I like, so I figured why not just use over-the-air? I don't have cable TV.

Nightfox

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.

I actually play my phisical media quite a lot myself.

Internet here sucks, power supply sucks. An VHS or DVD is much more likely to work without issues than the alternatives. If I am throwing a party at home and somebody wants to watch something from streaming or whatever, we give it a try, but if there are any issues we fallback to some DVD from my collection.

It is a lot like modern game consoles or PC videogames. They are so flashy and featureful, but often somebody wants to play one in my home and he has issues with his Stream credentials, or his wireless controller runs out of battery, or or or or... A PSX game is no fancy but you can just turn the thing on and play in the blink of an eye.


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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 10:43 am

And when you paid like $20/each for most of those DVDs that watched maybe only one time, you feel like you'd be throwing away something of value. But... not really. Donate them in that case.

Holy Crap, you make it sound like you are throwing money into a blackhole.

I used to get lots of DVDs from discount bins because people seems to put ok old movies in the discount bin. My average purchase price must be closer to 5 bucks than 20.

Sometimes there is a DVD I want sooooo much, but usually that is because I do really love the movie or because there is no way to get it at a reasonable quality ANYWHERE (including illegal avenues). Maybe I pay 20 bucks for one of those.
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Re: Re: Video rental store to shu
By: Gamgee to MRO on Thu Apr 04 2024 09:34 pm

There are other use-cases where cable/streaming doesn't work. Where I
live, there can be power/cable outages due to tropical weather conditions. Sometimes an hour, sometimes a week. For $40 at Walmart, you can buy an over-the-air antenna, and hook it to your TV (coax input). With your generator running to power the TV, you can receive OTA broadcasts *IN HIGH DEFINITION* from your local channel broadcasters. This is very useful in these situations, because that's how you can learn about current/upcoming weather, power restoration efforts, food/water distribution points, and similar. Perhaps even a sporting event or sitcom/show. It's FREE.

I just have a portable radio and a bunch of batteries for weather and emergency reports :-)

When I was a kid I would watch OTA TV. THen they turned TV into crap and I stopped watching TV altogether. I still have the antenna for getting some sports events my family might want to watch and that'sit.


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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Arelor to MRO on Fri Apr 05 2024 11:41 am

Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Ewing on Thu Apr 04 2024 03:08 am

but like i said, do you NEED it? do you USE it? if not, throw it out.

I actually play my phisical media quite a lot myself.

Internet here sucks, power supply sucks. An VHS or DVD is much more likely to work without issues than the alternatives. If I am throwing a party at home and somebody wants to watch something from streaming or whatever, we give it a try, but if there are any issues we fallback to some DVD from my collection.

yeah but you are a minority too. you cant download a whole movie in 4 mins.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Fri Apr 05 2024 05:27 am

there's still people that buy cdrs and floppy disks.

I still buy CDR and DVDR. I haven't bought blank floppy disks in years. My last purchase was a few hundred 3.5s containing Amiga software.

you will be one of the nobodys.

Nope. I will be a somebody. Kinda difficult to be a nobody when you are someone.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Skylar to MRO on Thu Apr 11 2024 04:04 pm

you will be one of the nobodys.

Nope. I will be a somebody. Kinda difficult to be a nobody when you are someone.

you're an AI chatbot.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Thu Apr 11 2024 07:37 pm

you're an AI chatbot.

Wrong again. *That* would make me a nobody.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Skylar to MRO on Thu Apr 11 2024 06:05 pm

Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Thu Apr 11 2024 07:37 pm

you're an AI chatbot.

Wrong again. *That* would make me a nobody.

wrong again? when was i wrong the first time


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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Thu Apr 11 2024 07:37 pm

you're an AI chatbot.

Wrong again. *That* would make me a nobody.

wrong again? when was i wrong the first time

Pretty much every time you post.



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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Thu Apr 11 2024 10:17 pm

wrong again? when was i wrong the first time

When you said I was a nobody.

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Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: Skylar to MRO on Fri Apr 12 2024 03:42 pm

Re: Video rental store to shut its doors after 40 years in business
By: MRO to Skylar on Thu Apr 11 2024 10:17 pm

wrong again? when was i wrong the first time

When you said I was a nobody.

yes, i did.


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