I'll probably try one out sooner or later - maybe Best Buy has demos of them out by now?

Not sure. I ordered mine from Nintendo.com. I tried to order another as a gift and it literally won't let me get another one! Amazon also blocks ordering them unless you get the OK from Nintendo. These things are pretty locked down. Oh well, I guess I'm glad I got one.

A Switch 2 would be double sweet for me since I don't own *ANY* Switch 1 games, plus I missed most of the good exclusive stuff from Gamecube on
so there's an absolute insane amount of content out there for me. If
only they'd make more of those older games available in one way or another.

Nintendo has my favorite exclusives, always have and likely always will. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon...fucks my shit /up/. :P But seriously, you're missing out on some great content.

Yeah re: make stuff available, I'm happy with the Steam Deck as an emulation machine. Nintendo makes things available but at a cost, at their timetable, and lacking some of the typical emulator features we've come to know and love (live saving, cheats, etc).

Until then, I've been considering modding my WiiU. Seems pretty easy to do, and would let me play a lot of good stuff.

The Steam Deck is a better Wii U than the Wii U. Seriously. I get more frames playing BOTW on the deck than people get on the Wii U!

Hope so! You used to try to talk me into getting a 3DS and modding it every few months, so I know you loved it. ;)

I'm really sad I can't find this thing. I think I must've left it somewhere. It bums me out. I'm gonna need to get another one I guess. This time I'm getting one with dual IPS screens, though. Spare no expense!

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Nintendo certainly has a great game archive and is always adding - so theres tons of reasons to want to dive in... I just hate that companies not only still do these practices, but still ADVANCE them.

I didn't realize that but I share your feelings on the matter completely.

But we gotta have our Mario Kart... :P

And this as well :P necessary evil in this case I suppose.

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on 01 Sep 2025, paulie420 said...

Yes, I watched the Linux Tech Tips video about this - I don't love that Nintendo [and 'newly' on the Switch 2] is messing w/ USB-C handshakes to disallow 3rd party products from existing... seems like they want to
force users to buy more $100 Switch 2 docks - and for ZERO good reason.

Nintendo certainly has a great game archive and is always adding - so theres tons of reasons to want to dive in... I just hate that companies not only still do these practices, but still ADVANCE them.

I hadn't heard of that (I don't follow the Nintendo ecosystem too closely) but I'm not at all surprised - Nintendo has a long and silly history of doing that sort of backwards ass shit, not to mention willfully staying well behind the curve on new tech - their online capabilities have been trounced back and fourth by MS and Sony for generations now, and they usually blamed that on safety concerns (despite having parental features.)

Whatever, I guess it's working for them...

While I'm being bitchy, that price for the docks is absolutely criminal. It was insane on the OG Switch as well - I bet those things cost like 5 bucks to manufacture. :P

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on 01 Sep 2025, esc said...

Not sure. I ordered mine from Nintendo.com. I tried to order another as
a gift and it literally won't let me get another one! Amazon also blocks ordering them unless you get the OK from Nintendo. These things are
pretty locked down. Oh well, I guess I'm glad I got one.

I didn't know they still had them locked down. I guess they're trying to keep the scalpers down? I keep seeing reports of them randomly showing up in the electronic/gaming section at Fred Meyers around here. :P

Nintendo has my favorite exclusives, always have and likely always will. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon...fucks my shit /up/. :P But seriously, you're missing out on some great content.

Yep.

Yeah re: make stuff available, I'm happy with the Steam Deck as an emulation machine. Nintendo makes things available but at a cost, at
their timetable, and lacking some of the typical emulator features we've come to know and love (live saving, cheats, etc).

Definitely. I doubt I'd ever get anything off their e-shop (whatever they call it these days) for that reason, but I definitely would buy some newer ports, remasters, or remakes like the ones they're doing for the more recent Zelda games. Seems like they've got a few such titles in the works for the Switch 2.

The Steam Deck is a better Wii U than the Wii U. Seriously. I get more frames playing BOTW on the deck than people get on the Wii U!

I mean, not sure how you can compare them. The Wii U came out in 2012 and wasn't exactly cutting edge back then, and the Steam Deck costs quite a bit more... :P Never mind the fact that I already own a Wii U... so... ?!

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I didn't know they still had them locked down. I guess they're trying to keep the scalpers down? I keep seeing reports of them randomly showing
up in the electronic/gaming section at Fred Meyers around here. :P

No idea tbh. It caught me by surprise. I suppose that makes the most sense, though, and to that end I appreciate what they're doing. Scalpers have ruined more than their share of things at this point.

Definitely. I doubt I'd ever get anything off their e-shop (whatever
they call it these days) for that reason, but I definitely would buy
some newer ports, remasters, or remakes like the ones they're doing for the more recent Zelda games. Seems like they've got a few such titles in the works for the Switch 2.

I've bought a handful of things from their e-shop. In fact that's typically where I buy complete games. Now that I am pretty sure my Switch 1 is gone, hopefully I'll be able to just login to my Nintendo account on the Switch 2 and redownload games on my account.

I mean, not sure how you can compare them. The Wii U came out in 2012 and wasn't exactly cutting edge back then, and the Steam Deck costs quite a bit more... :P Never mind the fact that I already own a Wii U... so... ?!

Just sayin, that's all ;)

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[Nintendos USB handshake policies]

I hadn't heard of that (I don't follow the Nintendo ecosystem too
closely) but I'm not at all surprised - Nintendo has a long and silly history of doing that sort of backwards ass shit, not to mention
willfully staying well behind the curve on new tech - their online capabilities have been trounced back and fourth by MS and Sony for generations now, and they usually blamed that on safety concerns
(despite having parental features.)

While I'm being bitchy, that price for the docks is absolutely criminal. It was insane on the OG Switch as well - I bet those things cost like 5 bucks to manufacture. :P

Yea - so... what they did was change the handshake 'language' so that non-licensed USB-C products don't 'just work' with the Switch 2 like they did with the Switch 1.

I can't think of any good reasons for this - other than wanting to either license 3rd party products, or force users to purchase in-network. Bleck.



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on 31 Aug 2025, esc said...

It gets delivered Tuesday.

So, how is it? :)

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on 02 Sep 2025, paulie420 said...

Yea - so... what they did was change the handshake 'language' so that non-licensed USB-C products don't 'just work' with the Switch 2 like
they did with the Switch 1.

I can't think of any good reasons for this - other than wanting to either license 3rd party products, or force users to purchase in-network. Bleck.

Yep. I mean, we know exactly why they did it. They did it to force people to buy first party or licensed third party peripherals. A lot of the dumb stuff they've done over the years has felt more like competency and/or cultural issues than outright manipulation, but I can't imagine any technical reason to deviate from USB.

I mean, there are examples where maybe its a little bit of column A and column B, like Microsoft not using Bluetooth for their wireless controllers because they claim their proprietary wireless protocol has better performance (which holds a lot more water IMO now that they support both but still use it for their first party controllers) but in this case? Nah.

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on 31 Aug 2025, esc said...

It gets delivered Tuesday.

So, how is it? :)

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Amazing. Pure and simply amazing. I'm glad with my purchase.

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on 04 Sep 2025, esc said...

Amazing. Pure and simply amazing. I'm glad with my purchase.

So, you're going to sell me your Steam Deck now, right?

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on 04 Sep 2025, esc said...

Amazing. Pure and simply amazing. I'm glad with my purchase.

BTW, I *did* try a Switch 2 demo unit at Best Buy the other day because of this thread. Definitely an improvement - the analog sticks feel a lot better, the overall build feels a bit more premium (not that the og Switch was trash.) They had them side by side too, so I could directly compare them. I like the new screen size too, even if its a bit less portable. Also noticeably heavier, and I imagine it gets hotter too, but still a lot better than the Steam Deck and its competitors on those fronts. Pretty cool!

If I didn't already have far more on my gaming backlog than free time, I might get one, but as it is, it's hard for me to justify, personally.

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If I didn't already have far more on my gaming backlog than free time,
I might get one, but as it is, it's hard for me to justify,
personally.

That's probably the way I should have approached this but...like I say, I'm a Toys R Us kid.

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on 10 Sep 2025, esc said...

That's probably the way I should have approached this but...like I say, I'm a Toys R Us kid.

I mean, I didn't say I wasn't going to try to talk my partner into getting one. :) I never did play much of Breath of the Wild so that S2 enhanced version is looking mighty appealing.

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