• HVYRAIN: Excessive Rainfa

    From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 24, 2024 09:01:00
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    415 AM EDT Thu Oct 24 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 24 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 25 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Introduced a Marginal Risk for portions of the Middle MS Valley,
    from northwest IL and southeast IA into northern MO (and adjacent
    portions of far northeast KS). Strengthening southwesterly low-
    level flow (850 mb) to 40-50 kts this evening will usher in PWATs
    to near 1.25" (well above the 90th percentile, per SPC sounding
    climatology), along with sufficient instability (ML CAPE 1000+
    J/kg) and forcing (potent shortwave trough crossing the Central
    Plains) for convective development. Strong vertical shear (~50
    kts) with idealized curving hodographs will likely favor discrete
    convection (with both the mean flow and bunkers right vectors
    favoring storm motions of 20-30 kts), and despite relatively low
    PWs (particularly compared to warm season convection) any
    supercells will likely be capable of 1-2"/hr rainfall rates (per
    40-km neighborhood HREF probabilities for 1"/1-hr exceedance of
    40-50%). While 1-2" totals should be well tolerated by soils (and
    largely beneficial, given dry antecedent conditions), localized
    training could result in too much rainfall (2"+) too quickly (in a
    matter of 2-3 hours). Given this threat, an isolated instance or
    two of flash flooding is possible.

    Churchill


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 25 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 26 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 26 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 27 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Churchill
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, October 28, 2024 09:19:00
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    409 AM EDT Mon Oct 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 28 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 29 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 29 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 30 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 30 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 31 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS TO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/UPPER MIDWEST...

    A mid-level trough is expected to eject into the Plains by
    Wednesday morning. Surface troughing will help Gulf moisture to
    lift northward ahead of an approaching cold front. Cooler air
    filtering in from the west/north will encounter the warm air
    advection associated with the low-level jet. Showers and
    thunderstorms are expected to increase in coverage and intensity
    across the central portion of the country; which in turn will
    increase the potential for heavy rainfall and local areas of
    concern for flooding. The inherited old Day 4 Marginal Risk area
    was maintained with minor expansions across portions of Texas and
    across Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin to reflect the latest WPC QPF
    and model trends. At this point there appears to be two distinct
    areas of concentration for the heaviest QPF. The first near the
    juncture of Oklahoma, Texas and Arkansas state borders and the
    second near the juncture of eastern Iowa, southern Wisconsin and
    northern Illinois. Given the current FFG guidance and drier
    antecedant conditions, a Marginal still seems most appropriate for
    the level of risk. Should newer guidance continue to trend higher
    an embedded Slight Risk may need to be considered as the event gets
    closer.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, October 29, 2024 08:34:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 290824
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    424 AM EDT Tue Oct 29 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 29 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 30 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 30 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 31 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS TO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/UPPER MIDWEST...

    During this period a mid-level trough is expected to eject into
    the Plains by Wednesday morning, and in turn, surface troughing
    will draw Gulf moisture northward ahead of an approaching cold
    front. Cooler air filtering in from the west/north will encounter
    the warm air advection associated with the low-level jet.
    Convection over the region is expected to increase in both coverage
    and intensity. The Storm Prediction Center as highlighted a Slight
    Risk for severe storms for portions of the Plains and Mississippi
    Valley. This favorable setup will also increase the potential for
    heavy rainfall and local areas of concern for flooding.

    There continues to be two distinct areas swaths of higher QPF. The
    first remains focused near the juncture of Oklahoma, Texas and
    Arkansas state borders amid areas of higher instability. The second
    area continues to have a run-to-run westward trend and is now spans
    from northeast Kansas to north-central Wisconsin near the stronger
    height falls. With this westward shift the Marginal Risk area was
    altered in shape to reflect this trend and as such reduced/removed
    portions of the eastern boundary from Illinois, eastern Iowa and
    Missouri while expanding further into Nebraska, west-central Iowa
    and southeast Minnesota and central Wisconsin Very dry antecedent
    conditions should help minimize any threat (ergo, current FFG
    guidance values are high), but a Marginal Risk outline still seems
    appropriate for this lead time with room to adjust with future
    guidance (including the CAM guidance).

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 31 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The upper level trough will continue to advance through the Upper
    Midwest which will send the cold front through the eastern portions
    of the Southern Plains and mid-Mississippi Valley. Strong to
    severe thunderstorms will persist for areas along and ahead of the
    advancing frontal boundary per SPC (Marginal Risk); which will
    shift the heavy rain potential to the central Gulf Coast to
    western Kentucky where there is a Marginal Risk area for excessive
    rainfall. Areal averages will be in the 1 to 2 inch range with
    locally higher amounts possible.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, October 30, 2024 08:02:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 300822
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    422 AM EDT Wed Oct 30 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 30 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 31 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS TO THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/UPPER MIDWEST...

    Convection over the region is expected to increase in both
    coverage and intensity with the set up becoming more favorable for
    isolated heavy rainfall amounts/rates and localized flooding
    concern. Showers and thunderstorms in the vicinity to Oklahoma,
    Texas and Arkansas state borders will have local enhancement amid
    areas of higher instability. There has been a persistent westward
    shift from run-to run guidance in regards to the placement of the
    higher QPF across the Plains and Upper Mississippi Valley/Upper
    Midwest, but general consensus is favoring a concentration across
    north- central Iowa into southeast Minnesota and western Wisconsin
    where the greatest height falls are located and fastest
    acceleration of low level flow. This will enhance local rainfall
    efficiency and boost amounts. Deterministic guidance suggests 1 to
    3+ inches across this area.

    Antecedent conditions are quite dry- as reflected by the very high
    flash flood guidance. That should mitigate any widespread threat
    of excessive rainfall as well as progressive cells. Even so, the
    Marginal Risk area still seemed appropriate based on what the
    magnitude of the instability and mesoscale forcing from the coarser
    numerical guidance with room to adjust with future guidance
    (including the CAM guidance).

    Campbell/Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 31 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    As the upper level trough advances through the Upper Midwest the
    surface front will makes its way into the Southern Plains and Mid-
    Mississippi Valley. Instability is expected to remain the highest
    in portions of the Lower Mississippi Valley while the flow
    pattern/mesoscale forcing weakens farther north. Convection is
    expected to initiate along and ahead of the cold front by late
    morning and increase coverage during the afternoon hours across the
    Lower Mississippi Valley and into the Lower Ohio Valley. Areal
    averages will be in the 1 to 2 inch range with locally higher
    amounts possible.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 1 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN ROCKIES AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    Another trough will move inland across the West as ridging stays in
    place over much of the South. Warm Gulf moisture will be advecting
    northward through the High Plains. Meanwhile, the strongest
    instability will likely be in place over West Texas and eastern new
    Mexico. Areal coverage of thunderstorms is forecast to increase
    during the overnight hours into portions of the Texas panhandle,
    Oklahoma and far southern Kansas. Per SPC, the environment will be
    conducive for large hail and there is a Marginal Risk in effect for
    severe weather. There is also the potential for excessive rainfall
    near eastern new Mexico and West Texas/Panhandle and there is a
    Marginal Risk area in effect for the threat of isolated areas of
    flooding.

    Campbell

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, November 01, 2024 09:27:00
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    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    410 AM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR A SMALL PORTION
    OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    ...New Mexico and the TX/OK Panhandles...

    A digging trough over the intermountain west will begin to tap into
    building Gulf moisture across eastern New Mexico and the Texas and
    Oklahoma Panhandles. With interactions with upper level energy,
    CAMs guidance is highlighting the Slight risk area from the
    Sacramento Mountains to the Texas state line for the heaviest
    rains. The whole area has been very dry in recent weeks (as has
    most of the country), so that should greatly mitigate the flash
    flooding threat. Further, the guidance isn't in perfect agreement
    on where the heaviest rains will occur...though the Slight risk
    highlights where most of the guidance is. Thus...the threat is most
    certainly still on the lower end of the Slight risk scale.

    The storms that form over New Mexico will train northeastward
    across the Panhandles. Where repetitive training can occur,
    isolated flash flooding is possible, but the storms will be
    stronger further south and west.

    ...Louisiana/Mississippi...

    A convergence zone is likely to set up across the Mississippi Delta
    Friday night. Slow moving convection is expected, though that
    convection would likely need to move over an urban or flood
    sensitive area to cause localized flash flooding. With HREF
    probabilities for 3 inches of rain Friday night over 50%, a
    Marginal Risk area was added with this update.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, November 01, 2024 13:23:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 011555
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1155 AM EDT Fri Nov 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Fri Nov 01 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR A SMALL PORTION
    OF SOUTHEASTERN NEW MEXICO...

    16Z Excessive Rainfall Outlook Discussion...
    No changes needed to either the Slight/Marginal risk areas
    southeast New Mexico and adjacent portions of the Texas/Oklahoma
    panhandles or with the Marginal risk area along the immediate Gulf
    coast. With trough amplification over the western United States now underway...flow across the Gulf coast region should begin to
    back...allowing for moisture to return northward/westward leading
    to expanding coverage over the southern High Plains late tonight.
    Dry antecedent conditions should mitigate the risk of excessive
    rainfall in most areas...with the biggest exception being in
    southeast New Mexico which remains hydrologically sensitive
    following significant flash flooding less than 2 week ago. So made
    no changes to the Slight Risk area that was already in place...and
    only minor nudges to the perimeter of the Marginal risk area.
    Farther east...the HREF continues to suggest additional convection
    is possible later today that will have the potential for isolated
    rainfall rates of 1 inch per hour...and even a low probability of 2
    inch per hour rates immediately west of Lake Pontchartrain late
    this afternoon/early evening. So no significant change made with
    that Marginal risk area.

    Bann

    ...New Mexico and the TX/OK Panhandles...

    A digging trough over the intermountain west will begin to tap into
    building Gulf moisture across eastern New Mexico and the Texas and
    Oklahoma Panhandles. With interactions with upper level energy,
    CAMs guidance is highlighting the Slight risk area from the
    Sacramento Mountains to the Texas state line for the heaviest
    rains. The whole area has been very dry in recent weeks (as has
    most of the country), so that should greatly mitigate the flash
    flooding threat. Further, the guidance isn't in perfect agreement
    on where the heaviest rains will occur...though the Slight risk
    highlights where most of the guidance is. Thus...the threat is most
    certainly still on the lower end of the Slight risk scale.

    The storms that form over New Mexico will train northeastward
    across the Panhandles. Where repetitive training can occur,
    isolated flash flooding is possible, but the storms will be
    stronger further south and west.

    ...Louisiana/Mississippi...

    A convergence zone is likely to set up across the Mississippi Delta
    Friday night. Slow moving convection is expected, though that
    convection would likely need to move over an urban or flood
    sensitive area to cause localized flash flooding. With HREF
    probabilities for 3 inches of rain Friday night over 50%, a
    Marginal Risk area was added with this update.

    Wegman

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    Additional Gulf moisture will track north on a LLJ across Texas and
    into the Slight Risk area on Saturday. PWATs may exceed 1.75
    inches. The trough over the intermountain west will slow to a
    crawl, while much faster moving shortwaves round the base of the
    trough and move north up the Plains. Multiple rounds of storms are
    expected from north Texas to the Kansas City metro. The heaviest
    rains are likely across central Oklahoma, where a higher-end Slight
    is in place.

    As on Day 1, extremely dry antecedent conditions are in place over
    much of the Slight Risk area, with soil moisture levels from Nasa
    Sport at under 10%. While clay soils may start out hydrophobic, for
    the most part, the empty creeks and streams should work to prevent
    much flash flooding. Given the available moisture for the storms to
    work with, training is likely, which should raise the flash
    flooding potential to widely scattered. The Slight Risk area was
    expanded a bit towards the northeast and now approaches the Kansas
    City metro. Meanwhile a portion of north Texas was removed based on
    the latest guidance. Nonetheless a slower forward progression of
    the entire pattern should concentrate the worst impacts from any
    flash flooding in a smaller corridor highlighted by the Slight
    Risk. No major changes were made to the inherited risk areas. The
    greatest uncertainty is how well the dry soils will absorb the
    sudden abundance of moisture as the drought conditions in place now
    across the southern Plains will help in many cases to mitigate any
    potential flooding impacts.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN OKLAHOMA AND THE OZARKS...

    The inherited Moderate Risk area was shifted to the southeast a few
    rows of counties in Oklahoma with this update. This is in response
    to the latest guidance suggesting the heaviest rainfall will
    fall more across eastern Oklahoma through the Ozarks of western
    Missouri. A big factor as to the flooding potential will be
    rainfall from the Day 2/Saturday period, which alone is expected to
    result in a widespread 3-5 inches of rain across the Moderate Risk
    area. When added to the 2-4 inches of rain expected Sunday for many
    of the same areas, even the antecedent drought conditions in place
    now should not be able to handle two consecutive days of heavy
    rain. The primary point of uncertainty is how much overlap there
    will be between the two days. The slow moving nature of the entire
    system should mean much of the Moderate Risk area will be in the
    overlap. Urban and flood sensitive areas are likely to have the
    greatest risk of impacts from training storms, with the strongest
    storms and heaviest rains expected Sunday night. The storms will
    continue north and east across northern Missouri and into Iowa and
    Illinois, where the Slight Risk was extended based partially on
    prior days' rainfall. Regardless, outside of the Moderate Risk
    area, antecedent dry conditions will have a bigger mitigating
    impact on the flooding.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, November 02, 2024 09:33:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 020814
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    414 AM EDT Sat Nov 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 02 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A deep but slow-moving longwave trough will move across the Desert
    Southwest through tonight. Multiple shortwaves of upper level
    energy will move through the jet stream rounding the base of the
    trough. As those shortwaves eject over the high Plains of Texas and
    Oklahoma, they will meet up with increasing Gulf moisture tracking
    northward across Texas. At the surface, the trough-ridge interface
    will feature a slow-moving cold front which will also add to the
    forcing in the area. PWATs will increase above 1.75 inches across
    much of the Slight Risk area.

    The combination of the increasing moisture and ample low and upper
    level forcing will be multiple rounds of training thunderstorms
    initiating over northwest Texas and the Panhandle, then quickly
    organize into segments which will slowly track east as embedded
    heavier cells track northeastward and roughly parallel to the
    lines. This will support training convection which in addition to 2
    inch per hour rates, could mean any particular location in the
    Slight Risk area could see multiple rounds of heavy rainfall.

    In contrast to the heavy rains, mitigating the flood risk has been
    multiple weeks of very little rain across the middle of the
    country. The dry streams and creekbeds will easily be able to
    handle most of the rain that falls, but should training of multiple
    storms occur, especially over any urban areas such as Oklahoma
    City, then flash flooding impacts could quickly arise. Since the
    storms will be slow moving, this will support widely scattered
    flooding impacts, especially from Wichita Falls, TX through
    Oklahoma City.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM CENTRAL AND
    NORTHEASTERN OKLAHOMA AND ALONG THE KANSAS/MISSOURI BORDER...

    Storms from the overnight period Saturday night will diminish with
    daytime heating and the typical daytime weakening of the LLJ.
    However, throughout the day the atmosphere will recharge such that
    by Sunday night the passage of another shortwave will result in a
    refiring of the storms across central and eastern Oklahoma, which
    will grow and train upscale into far eastern Kansas, Missouri, and
    eventually Iowa and far western Illinois. The Moderate Risk was
    largely unchanged, with a small northward expansion. This is
    primarily the portion of the region which is expected to get some
    rain tonight, which will prime the soils for the heavier rains for
    most of eastern Oklahoma and points north and east by Sunday night.
    This expected overlap of rainfall is what will push the flash
    flooding impact and coverage potential into the Moderate Risk
    category, albeit the lower end of the category. Obviously this will
    largely depend on how much rain is seen in the Moderate Risk area
    Saturday night before the start of the period.

    Once again the LLJ off the Gulf will supply a stream of ample
    moisture to the slow-moving storms, so the flooding impact
    potential, especially in areas where Sunday is the first
    significant rains seen in the area in weeks, will be dependent on
    the upper level energy tracking along the surface front keeping
    storms moving over the same areas. The ERO risk areas were
    conservative on the north and east sides and more liberal on the
    south and west sides due to expected prior rainfall (or lack
    thereof) on Saturday. The lack of prior rainfall has gotten river
    levels to very low conditions, making plenty of room for the water
    from heavy rain. This will greatly diminish the flooding threat
    broadly. Had there been recent rains in this area, then a more
    expansive Moderate Risk may have been needed. From Day 2 onward the
    flooding potential across the middle of the country will be highly
    dependent on how well previous days rains were able to result in
    flooding, as amounts in the highest rainfall risk areas will be
    largely the same day to day, so overlap with previous' days will be
    critical. Of course, urban and low-lying/flood prone areas will be
    at greater risk of flash flooding through Sunday night.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH THE CHICAGOLAND AREA...

    The slow moving cold front that will have brought rains to areas
    west of the Mississippi this weekend will move a little faster to
    the east Monday and Monday night. Additional lines of storms are
    expected again on Monday, but mostly for areas not expected to get
    too much rain this weekend. Thus, the Slight Risk remains good as
    the flooding from heavy rain is offset by the dry soil conditions.
    By this point we should have a good idea as to how much flooding
    will be seen as both Saturday and Sunday's forecast rains will be
    on repeat over the Slight Risk area again on Monday. No significant
    changes were made or needed from the inherited Day 4 forecast.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, November 03, 2024 09:28:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 030808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    308 AM EST Sun Nov 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 03 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS AND THE OZARKS...

    ...Southern Plains and the Ozarks...

    In coordination with TSA/Tulsa, OK; LZK/Little Rock, AR; and
    SGF/Springfield, MO forecast offices, the inherited Moderate Risk
    area was downgraded to a Slight with this update. The surrounding
    Marginal was trimmed out of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and much of Iowa.

    There was a notable south and eastward shift in the guidance as to
    the axis of heaviest rainfall expected across Oklahoma and Arkansas
    today into tonight. A longwave trough over the Southwest will shift
    eastward today. Embedded shortwave disturbances as well as a
    developing 90 kt jet streak will move over the region through
    tonight. A well-established low level jet (LLJ) will continue to advect plentiful Gulf moisture northward into the area. The result will be
    multiple rounds of storms with embedded training cells in OK/AR and
    into MO. Much of the area has been very dry lately, though
    yesterday some rain impacted the area, especially in Oklahoma and
    into southern Missouri. Multiple "streaks" of much heavier rainfall
    are anticipated where cells of much heavier rain train over the
    same areas. This is likely to cause widely scattered to scattered
    instances of flash flooding.

    Antecedent conditions will be the primary limiting factor keeping
    the flooding impacts in check. Very dry conditions prior to this
    event has led to drought conditions developing with very low river
    and stream levels. Thus...much of the rain expected today will be
    beneficial and work to return those rivers and streams to much more
    normal levels. However, given the plentiful moisture, training
    storms, and some flood prone areas, the heavy rain could cause
    localized flash flooding. The eastward shift in the guidance has
    also introduced the Ozarks into the highest risk area. The
    topography of the area will help to focus the heavy rainfall into
    the valleys...which could result in rapid river, stream and creek
    rises. This also locally increases the flash flooding threat as
    compared to the same amount of rain falling over relatively flat
    terrain.

    While forecast rainfall amounts haven't changed appreciably as
    compared with previous forecasts, the shift of the heaviest rain
    eastward and into many areas that did not receive appreciable rain
    today has reduced the likely flood impact threat as well as
    coverage. When added to the dry antecedent conditions, this should
    keep flooding impacts from becoming widespread enough to reach
    Moderate Risk levels. Hence, while flash flooding remains likely as
    amounts could locally exceed 5 inches, the impact and coverage was
    determined to be in the Slight Risk category...hence the downgrade.

    ...Upper Midwest...

    In the upper Midwest, the eastward shift in the guidance and a more
    west to east movement of the expected convection should limit how
    much instability and moisture reach the upper Mississippi Valley.
    It's likely any remaining convection will be in a much weakened
    state by the time the rain reaches this area. Since similarly dry
    conditions and drought have impacted the upper Great Lakes in
    recent weeks, the largely stratiform nature of the rain should mean
    all of the rain will be beneficial with no flooding concerns noted.
    Thus, the Marginal was trimmed towards the south.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM NORTHEAST
    TEXAS THROUGH PORTIONS OF WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    Few changes were made or needed to the Slight Risk area across the
    middle of the country.

    A deep longwave trough will continue move eastward but begin to
    weaken and lift northward back into the jet stream on Monday. As it
    does so, associated jet streaks will intensify downstream of the
    trough, which will support its deamplification. The LLJ that has
    been supplying Gulf moisture will also elongate towards the north
    reaching as far north as lower Michigan by Monday. This will cause
    the resultant moisture to focus in a SSW to NNE corridor from Texas
    to Michigan. Unidirectional SSW flow will support training
    thunderstorms. The strongest storms are expected from Texas through
    Missouri, which will have access to the greatest Gulf instability
    and moisture. The storms will gradually weaken the further north
    you go, but are expected to maintain their integrity into Wisconsin
    and Michigan. The topography of the Ozarks will further locally
    enhance rainfall totals due to some upslope support.

    Due to overlap with the rainfall footprint Monday with that
    expected today, there is some potential for a Moderate Risk upgrade
    from western Arkansas into southern Missouri. However, this will be
    highly dependent on how much rain falls in that area today/Sunday.
    Total rainfall amounts will be somewhat lower on Monday as compared
    to Sunday, hence the importance of rain falling over the same areas
    as Sunday to enhance the flooding threat to Moderate Risk levels. Thus,
    the potential for an upgrade will continue to be evaluated.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    By Tuesday, a progressive cold front pushing across the Mississippi
    Valley and associated upper level trough and shortwave will
    separate...with the upper shortwave ejecting northeastward into the
    Great Lakes, leaving the front behind. The combination of steady
    forward movement of the storms through the day followed by the
    rapid diminishing of any and all upper level support by Tuesday
    night will rapidly diminish the flooding threat as storm coverage
    and intensity also diminish. With some supply of Gulf moisture
    continuing on Tuesday, the storms that form through the day will
    still have enough punch to cause locally heavy rainfall. However,
    the eastward progression of the front should allow this rain to
    fall largely over areas that remain dry today/Sunday and Monday.
    Antecedent dry conditions will preclude much of the flooding threat
    by Tuesday, so only isolated flash flooding in urban and flood
    prone areas is anticipated. The Marginal Risk is largely unchanged
    from previous forecasts.

    Wegman

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, November 04, 2024 08:29:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 040808
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    308 AM EST Mon Nov 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 04 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM EASTERN TEXAS
    THROUGH WESTERN LOWER MICHIGAN...

    ...Changes...

    Only a few modest changes were made to the inherited forecast.
    There was a small southward nudge to the axis of heaviest rainfall
    around Lake Michigan, so the Slight risk area was trimmed some in
    Wisconsin and northern Lower Michigan in favor of a slightly
    expanded Slight in eastern Illinois and far northwestern Indiana.
    With some rain in portions of southeast Texas around Houston today,
    the expectation of feeder cells into the main plume of moisture,
    showers and storms further north warranted a small southward
    extension of the Slight to near Houston.
    A small Marginal risk was added to portions of east central New
    Mexico.

    ...Texas to the Great Lakes...

    A progressive trough over the Plains will continue tracking
    eastward towards the Mississippi Valley today. Plentiful shortwave
    energy and a strengthening southerly jet streak out ahead of the
    trough will both work to increase forcing across the entire Slight
    Risk area. The greatest lift and heaviest rainfall is expected from
    far southeastern Oklahoma northeast to around St. Louis. Since this
    area crosses the heart of the Ozarks, any upslope enhancement will
    locally increase rainfall rates. The topography of the area may
    also focus the flash flood potential in the valleys, further
    increasing the risk of impacts. Plentiful Gulf moisture moving
    north on a 40 kt LLJ will run into a developing surface low over
    the Plains. As this moisture runs ahead of the NE-moving low the
    combination of forcing and topography will enhance rainfall rates.
    While there has been some rain in this area from eastern Oklahoma,
    Arkansas, and southern Missouri, the heaviest rainfall amounts have
    generally been west of where the heaviest rains are expected today.
    This fact should mitigate the flood potential and impact somewhat.
    Nonetheless, 2 days of heavy rain with rates to 3 inches per hour
    in the strongest cells shows no signs of abating for today with all
    the aforementioned ingredients still in place. The progressive
    nature of the trough and resultant storms should also lessen the
    flood risk just a little. Thus, the Slight Risk inherited for this
    region continues to look good and no upgrades were considered. This
    corridor is highlighted in an internal higher-end Slight.

    Further south across Texas, there will be plentiful moisture but
    the forcing will both be transient and largely missing this area.
    Some rain fell today around Houston, so the threat is in the lower
    end Slight range as any storms that form, while isolated to widely
    scattered, will be capable of those higher end 3 inch per hour
    rates, which especially over any flood prone urban areas could
    cause flooding problems quickly.

    Meanwhile further north towards Lake Michigan, plentiful forcing
    will be in place but both instability and moisture amounts will be
    decreasing with latitude. Thus, expect more stratiform rain across
    this region...with much lower chances of the higher end rates. That
    said, the rain should be longer duration than the heavier rain
    further south, and for the Chicagoland area here too there will be
    urban considerations which bump the risk level into the Slight
    range.

    ...New Mexico...

    A leeside low currently over south central New Mexico will track
    northeast as several mesolows work to consolidate into a dominant
    single low over Texas and Oklahoma late today. With peak heating,
    some wraparound moisture and modest instability over an area with
    modestly depressed FFG values, steady rain with some convective
    cells ongoing over the area by this afternoon could result in an
    isolated flash flooding threat, particularly over any burn scars or
    other flood sensitive areas. Thus, a small Marginal Risk area was
    added with this update. Precipitation will be ongoing further north
    and into the mountains of southern Colorado but temperatures there
    will be cold enough for most if not all of the precip to fall as
    snow, precluding any flash flooding risk.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MISSISSIPPI AND OHIO VALLEYS...

    No changes were made to the inherited Marginal Risk area.

    The upper level trough responsible for the past few days of heavy
    rain across the southern and central Plains will finally retreat
    back into the broader jet into Ontario and Quebec. The upper level
    energy supporting the corridor of storms will continue supporting
    storms across the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys Tuesday and into
    Tuesday night respectively. As the energy lifts north, it will mark
    the end of persistent heavy rain and storms from south to north.
    Thus, the flooding threat will be more in the morning in Texas, and
    more towards the night for the Ohio Valley. Training lines of
    storms will move across the Mississippi Valley for much of the day.
    These storms will be capable of heavy rains which may cause
    isolated flash flooding, especially in any urban areas such as
    Memphis. By Tuesday night, weakening of the storms and the shift
    well away from any prior days' rain footprint will effectively end
    the flooding threat.

    Wegman

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    Very few changes were needed to the inherited forecast.

    Deep tropical moisture will have overspread all of Florida and will
    be advancing into GA and SC at the start of the period Wednesday
    morning. A lingering front over the Southeast may act as a focus
    for convection across GA and SC as the deep tropical moisture moves
    north into the front. Potential Tropical Cyclone Eighteen (PTC18)
    is expected to move into the Gulf from Cuba and the northwest
    Caribbean as well. For the Florida Peninsula, much of the flooding
    threat will be determined by the eventual track of PTC18. The
    latest guidance has kept the center of PTC18 far enough west over
    the Gulf that despite shear pushing much of the rain associated
    therewith to the eastern side of the circulation, it will still
    largely remain offshore. However, with PWATs above 2.25 inches, it
    won't take much for daily convection to produce heavy rainfall
    almost anywhere in the state.

    A bullseye of heavier rain is currently forecast across central GA
    into SC. While the focus for the heavier rain will be the stalled
    out front, there is considerable uncertainty as to instability,
    which will greatly determine how strong any storms can get which
    could cause flooding. For now it appears much of the rain in GA/SC
    will be spread out through Wednesday and into Wednesday night,
    which should easily be handled by the antecedent dry conditions.
    Thus, the Marginal for this area remains in place with only minor
    tweaks made. The area will continue to be monitored for a potential
    Slight upgrade, which may not take much given the abundance of
    tropical moisture any storms would have to work with.

    Wegman

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, November 05, 2024 09:30:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 050824
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    324 AM EST Tue Nov 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 05 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    LOWER TO MID MISSISSIPPI AND LOWER OHIO VALLEYS...

    A cold front tracking east across the middle of the country is
    expected to stall out generally along the Mississippi and Ohio
    Rivers late tonight. Southerly flow off the Gulf will continue
    pumping plentiful moisture into the front. Meanwhile, in the upper
    levels, a large longwave trough over the west will establish itself
    as a positively tilted trough by tonight as it digs southwestward
    over the Southwest. Before it does so, the last potent shortwave of
    the "old" trough will race northeastward into the Great Lakes as
    the leading edge of the trough becomes a roughly straight line
    southwesterly from the Southwest right through into eastern
    Canada.

    The potent shortwave and associated surface low will both race
    northeastward through the period. While they're over the upper
    Mississippi Valley, they will move the front currently stalled from
    Texas through Michigan eastward a bit to align with the Slight and
    Marginal Risk areas along the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. This
    will give the hard hit northwestern Arkansas region a break as the
    heaviest rain shifts east. However, by tonight, both features will
    be well into the Great Lakes and Canada, so the forcing pushing
    them east will quickly diminish, resulting in another stall-out of
    the front. With continuous Gulf moisture, another round of training thunderstorms is expected up the Mississippi and lower Ohio Rivers
    tonight. Given both the prior history of this front stalling as
    well as urban concerns in the Memphis area especially, a Slight
    Risk area was introduced with this update.

    Despite the stalled out front keeping the rainfall largely confined
    to a narrow corridor, the upper level forcing quickly weakening
    tonight should hold rates and coverage in check much better tonight
    as compared to the ongoing storms over Texas, Arkansas and Missouri
    right now. Thus, forecast rainfall amounts are considerably lower
    today and tonight than yesterday. The Slight is considered a
    "lower-end Slight" with any flash flooding impacts expected to be
    largely confined to low-lying flood prone areas and urban areas.
    Like areas further west, this area has also been very dry prior to
    this rainfall, so it will still take a prolonged period of heavy
    rainfall to result in flash flooding.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    GEORGIA AND SOUTH CAROLINA...

    A large plume of deep tropical moisture will overspread all of
    Florida and move into Georgia and South Carolina on Wednesday and
    Wednesday night. This same plume is home to T.S. Rafael down in the
    Caribbean. PWATs will increase to as high as 2.25 inches, meaning
    the storms expected to form will have plenty of moisture to convert
    to heavy rainfall. The front over the Ohio Valley is unlikely to
    play too much of a role in the storms over Georgia and South
    Carolina. Rather, the guidance suggests a secondary front will from
    at the leading edge of the moisture plume that will likely be
    enhanced by the right entrance region of the upper level jet
    streak, as well as possibly some upslope component (especially in
    South Carolina). Regardless of the primary lifting mechanism, there
    is good agreement in the guidance for an area of 3 to 5 inches of
    rain (though likely much higher amounts will be embedded) in the
    Slight Risk area, which is a small increase in amounts from the
    previous forecast.

    As with areas further west the past several days, this area has
    also been incredibly dry lately, with many areas not having seen
    appreciable rain in a month. For the swampy and sandy areas, this
    will mean it will take a lot of rain before runoff converts to
    flooding. Further north across interior SC and GA, the clay soils
    are likely quite hydrophobic due to the recent dry weather, which
    will notably increase runoff once the heavy rain gets started.
    Thus, locally increased impacts are possible. An internal higher-
    end Slight area was introduced for the peak rainfall area of east-
    central Georgia and west central South Carolina for this potential.

    Since this plume is home to T.S. Rafael, this would be considered a
    predecessor rain event (PRE) if Rafael were to head towards the Big
    Bend and GA/SC. However, since the latest forecasts keep Rafael
    tracking westward in the Gulf this rainfall event is not considered
    a PRE.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    ...Southeast...

    The cold front over the Appalachians that will drive the Day
    2/Wednesday rainfall event will move southward to coastal South
    Carolina and southern Georgia Thursday and Thursday night. The
    southerly flow of deep tropical moisture ahead of the front will
    abate somewhat in favor of a more neutral easterly flow. This will
    keep periods of heavy rain going...but both less widespread, less
    persistent, and less heavily. The core of heaviest rain will shift
    to the coast of SC/GA and north FL, but since most of this area is
    likely to not have seen substantive amounts of rain on Wednesday,
    and the coastal swamps can usually handle a lot of rainfall with
    few problems, have opted to keep the area in a Marginal Risk for
    this update. However, recent model trends have been for the
    heaviest rain to increase with time as the CAMs move into this
    period of time. Should that happen a Slight Risk will likely be
    necessary.

    ...Southern Plains...

    A potent upper level low will begin to eject out of the Southwest
    and into the southern Plains on Thursday. A strong cold front will
    develop as a result with plentiful snow into much of northeastern
    New Mexico. This area was trimmed from the Marginal Risk with this
    update. For the rest of the Marginal Risk area, some Gulf moisture
    will be captured and advected northward across north Texas and
    Oklahoma, but amounts will be somewhat limited. With only broad
    forcing from an upper level jet streak but few coherent features
    away from the strong cold front, the rainfall footprint will be
    broad and disorganized. This area has seen plentiful rainfall over
    the past few days, so the additional rainfall, while not much, may
    still cause isolated instances of flash flooding.

    Wegman

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, November 06, 2024 08:40:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 060823
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    323 AM EST Wed Nov 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 06 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST...

    In coordination with CAE/Columbia, SC and FFC/Peachtree City, GA
    forecast offices, a Moderate Risk upgrade was introduced with this
    update.

    A plume of deep tropical moisture, indirectly associated with
    Hurricane Rafael will continue overspreading portions of the
    Southeast today. The moisture plume will run into a developing
    front over Georgia and South Carolina. An upper level jet streak
    will add lift to the atmosphere. Late today into this evening, the
    nocturnal low level jet's strengthening will kick the moisture
    advection into high gear. Frontogenesis occurring over Georgia and
    South Carolina will act to focus the heavy rain over the narrow
    Moderate Risk corridor. Expect training convection to develop
    during the evening which will persist through the overnight and
    while slowly weakening in the pre-dawn hours, is likely to continue
    into western South Carolina into Day 2/Thursday.

    HREF probabilities show a 20 to 25 percent chance of a 100 year
    rainfall event in the Moderate Risk area. FFGs are very high in the
    area due to recent dry conditions with only very light rain. This
    has likely made some of the clay soils quite hydrophobic. The
    hydrophobic soils will likely increase the runoff from the heavy
    rain, which will likely quickly exceed FFGs as the heavy rain
    likely persists for multiple hours.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS FOR MUCH OF THE TEXAS PANHANDLE AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain will be ongoing across Georgia and especially South
    Carolina at the start of the period Thursday morning. While the
    rainfall will be diminishing in intensity, it's expected after the
    much heavier rains of Wednesday night, that the lighter totals
    forecast for Thursday will still be influential since antecedent
    conditions will be radically different by then as compared to where
    they are now. The Slight Risk threat largely is for the Thursday
    morning period with lingering rainfall from Wednesday night. Expect
    the rain to continue diminishing through the day as the moisture
    plume shifts westward with Hurricane Rafael.

    ...Texas Panhandle and Western Oklahoma...

    A positively tilted longwave trough and associated upper level
    energy in the form of jet streaks and shortwave energy will support
    the development of a strong low over the southern Plains. To the
    west, a significant amount of the low's moisture will fall in the
    form of snow. Where the precipitation will remain as rain, expect
    steady heavy rain across the Texas Panhandle and western Oklahoma.
    While rates are not generally expected to be notably heavy, the
    flood threat will be primarily focused on the long duration of
    steady rain, as well as the fact that much of this area was hit
    very hard with heavy rain a few days ago, so soils and rivers
    remain elevated in this region. Thus, low FFGs support the Slight
    Risk upgrade.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest will eject into the Plains
    on Friday. There will be significant upper level energy associated
    with the low, which combined with strong frontogenesis, plentiful
    Gulf moisture advecting up the Plains on the low level jet, and a
    strengthening surface low...expect heavier rainfall amounts across
    Oklahoma and Kansas on Friday as compared with Wednesday. While
    north Kansas didn't see as much rain a few days back compared with
    areas further south...much of the rest of the Slight risk area does
    overlap with both the heavy rain from a few days ago but continued
    rainfall from Day 2/Thursday. Thus, added an internal higher-end
    Slight for western Oklahoma into south Kansas. Depending on how
    much rain the area gets on Day 2, there is some potential for a
    Moderate Risk upgrade in this area with future updates.

    Wegman


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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, November 07, 2024 08:50:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 070820
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    320 AM EST Thu Nov 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 07 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHEAST AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF WEST TEXAS AND WESTERN OKLAHOMA...

    ...Southeast...

    Heavy rain continues across Georgia and South Carolina this
    morning. A nearly stationary front across the region is acting as a
    focus for that rainfall, which due to an influx of tropical
    moisture moving into the front from the Atlantic remains stuck. The
    moisture running into the front is allowing for convective
    development along the front in Florida and Georgia, which then
    advect northeastward into South Carolina. While convective coverage
    has been slowly diminishing, along with the storms with the
    heaviest rainfall, it's likely that the rain will continue into the
    day today. The inherited Slight and Marginal risks were largely
    left unchanged with this update, as the rainfall is generally
    behaving as expected. Since there will be a very slow drift of the
    heaviest rainfall towards the South Carolina coast, which due to
    the swampy terrain is generally much better equipped to handle
    heavy rainfall rates, a Slight Risk is sufficient to cover the
    flash flooding threat, rather than a continuation of the Moderate.

    ...West Texas and Western Oklahoma...

    A strong upper level low over the Southwest will interact with an
    LLJ of Gulf moisture and a developing surface low forming ahead of
    the upper level low. A large area of rain will develop from the
    Texas and Oklahoma Panhandles south and east over portions of the
    Cap Rock of Texas and much of Oklahoma west of Oklahoma City.
    Instability will be a significant limiting factor on short-term
    rainfall rates and the strength of any convection, but the fact
    that all of those synoptic systems just described will be very slow
    moving should increase the duration of steady rainfall. Since much
    of this region was hit hard with heavy rain a few days ago, FFGs
    remain low enough that they should be overcome in widely scattered
    instances in the Slight Risk area, and in isolated instances in the
    Marginal Risk region.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will both continue moving northeast across the Plains on
    Friday. With continued influx of Gulf moisture, the typical comma
    shaped precipitation footprint will develop from Texas to Oklahoma.
    Out west in Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be
    mostly in the form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest
    rain will be from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south
    central Kansas. As today, instability will remain the primary
    limiting factor for heavy rain in most areas, as MUCAPE values
    generally stay under 1,000 J/kg. For the Slight Risk area, there
    has been a general eastward/faster shift in the guidance, but that
    will at least be somewhat offset by the rainfall expected today
    over the Panhandles and western Oklahoma.

    The rationale for the Slight is two-fold. While somewhat lesser
    amounts of rain are expected overall for southern Oklahoma and
    Texas...greater instability there will favor at least some storms
    capable of heavy rainfall in that area. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    instantaneous rates will likely be lower than further south, it
    will be made up for by the longer duration of the rain.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    The upper level low that was driving the heavy rainfall the
    previous two days will move faster towards the northeast as it
    continues its return to the jet stream over the northern tier of
    states. The area will still have plenty of moisture from the Gulf
    to work with as Rafael (or what's left of it) remains over the
    central Gulf but the plume of moisture its embedded in continues to
    be drawn north ahead of the surface low's strong cold front. The
    front will likely be the dominant forcing for storms in this
    region. As on Friday, the southern areas of Louisiana and
    Mississippi will have the greater moisture and instability, while
    further north FFGs are much lower due to recent heavy rainfall.
    Thus, once again the Slight Risk is a two-fold combination of
    factors that individually increase the flooding risk. The front
    should still be slow enough moving that training storms tracking
    north along the front could still cause flooding problems,
    especially in Louisiana.

    Wegman

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, November 08, 2024 09:13:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 080758
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    258 AM EST Fri Nov 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 08 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    The upper level low over the Southwest and its attendant surface
    low will continue moving northeast across the Plains on Friday.
    With a continued influx of Gulf moisture with precipitable water
    values of 1.5-2.25" expected near the cyclone's cold front, the
    typical comma shaped precipitation footprint will develop farther
    up the warm conveyor belt from Texas to Oklahoma which should occur
    with precipitable water values at or above an inch. Out west in
    Colorado and New Mexico the precipitation will be mostly in the
    form of snow. Where it remains all rain, the heaviest rain will be
    from north Texas across Oklahoma and into south-central Kansas.
    Instability should be sufficient for heavy rain-related issues.

    While somewhat lesser amounts of rain are expected overall for
    southern Oklahoma and Texas...greater instability there as high as
    1500 J/kg of MU CAPE will favor at least some storms capable of
    heavy rainfall in that area, with hourly rain totals to 2.5" and
    local amounts as high as 6" where cells train. Meanwhile, north of
    Oklahoma City, expect a much longer duration rainfall as the
    surface low takes its time getting its act together. So while
    hourly rain totals will likely be lower than further south, perhaps
    1" where slantwise convection/frontogenesis aloft forces greater
    precipitation efficiency, it will be made up for by the longer
    duration of the rain.

    Roth/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region. As on Friday, the
    southern areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater
    moisture. MU CAPE rises towards 1000 J/kg across parts of LA/MS/TN.
    Areas further north have soils which are more saturated/flash
    flood guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 6" appear
    likely. Lingering disagreement on exactly where the maxima are
    expected kept the risk level from being raised to Moderate, though
    an upgrade remains possible in future updates should this placement
    issue resolve itself and model QPF magnitudes don't back off.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The latest NCEP
    and CMC guidance suggests that Raphael gets much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than the NHC forecast, which led to avoiding use of the GFS,
    NAM, and Canadian guidance explicitly. Since the distance of the
    storm from the region at this time frame is unclear, it's also
    unclear how high precipitable water values get, though they should
    rise above 1.5", particularly in the southern portion of the area
    near the coast, which should be enough for heavy rain concerns. It
    appears that enough instability could be available along the
    immediate Gulf Coast for convection with heavy rainfall. Hourly
    rain totals to 2" with local totals to 5" appear achievable along
    or near the immediate Gulf coast. Whenever better agreement
    amongst the guidance on the future of Rafael as well as the
    placement any rainfall maximum near the coast occurs, a Slight
    Risk could prove useful at that later time. To the north, hourly
    totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be the maximum
    potential.

    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, November 09, 2024 09:04:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 090748
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    248 AM EST Sat Nov 9 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 09 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR IMPERIAL
    CALCASIEU IN LOUISIANA...

    An upper level low will move faster towards the northeast. As
    Rafael moves west over the central Gulf, a plume of moisture with
    precipitable water values of 1.5-2" gets drawn north ahead of the
    surface low's strong cold front. The front will likely be the
    dominant forcing for storms in this region as it stalls, which have
    already begun to evolve in recent radar imagery. The southern
    areas of Louisiana and Mississippi will have the greater moisture.
    MU CAPE rises to 1000 J/kg or so across parts of LA/MS/TN. Areas
    further north have soils which are more saturated/flash flood
    guidance is lower. The front should progress slow enough that
    training storms tracking north along the front could still cause
    flooding problems, especially over portions of LA, MS, and TN.
    Hourly rain totals to 2.5" and local amounts of around 8" due to
    cell training appear likely based on the 00z HREF probabilities of
    8" totals. There is much better agreement on the placement when
    compared to this time yesterday. Portions of Central LA have
    received 300%+ of their average seven day rainfall, so soils should
    have some sensitivity. Coordination with the LCH/Lake Charles LA
    forecast office led to the increase to a High Risk.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST, LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...TENNESSEE VALLEY...
    AND UPPER OHIO VALLEY...

    Central Gulf Coast northeast towards southwest Pennsylvania...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northeast across portions of the Central Gulf
    Coast through the Tennessee and Upper Ohio Valleys. The forward
    progress of the front across much of the East should keep any
    excessive rainfall concerns minimal -- some of the risk area from
    eastern AR to the east-northeast just south of the OH river
    accounts for recent rains/some soil saturation. The guidance
    remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall gets ashore or not.
    Precipitable water values should rise above 1.5", particularly in
    the southern portion of the area near the coast, which should be
    enough for heavy rain concerns. It appears that enough instability
    could be available along the immediate Gulf Coast for convection
    with heavy rainfall. Hourly rain totals to 2" with local totals to
    5" appear achievable along or near the immediate Gulf coast.
    Whenever better agreement amongst the guidance on the future of
    Rafael as well as the placement any rainfall maximum near the coast
    occurs, a Slight Risk could prove useful at that later time. To
    the north, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear
    to be the maximum potential.

    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values rise to 0.75-1" with a front moving into
    the area. Inflow from the Pacific rises to 50-60 kts from the
    south-southwest near the front. In the wake of the front,
    instability moves in due to colder air aloft. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" appear likely here, which would be most problematic
    in burn scars. Left the Marginal Risk area intact though simplified
    the area's appearance.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    PACIFIC NORTHWEST & CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    Central Gulf Coast...
    Precipitable water values north of Rafael are expected to remain in
    the 1.5-2" range in the vicinity of a slowly progressive front near
    the Central Gulf Coast. While much of the guidance keeps rainfall
    amounts minimal, the 00z NAM showed local amounts of 3"+, though
    it gets there by allowing Rafael to get much closer to the Gulf
    Coast than other model guidance. Considering that heavy rainfall
    is possible over the previous couple of days, figured a new
    Marginal Risk was a sensible precaution in case the NAM is close to
    correct and/or soils are saturated by that time.

    Pacific Northwest...
    Precipitable water values of 0.5-0.75" and MU CAPE of a few hundred
    J/kg are expected in a post-frontal environment. Inflow off the
    Pacific is expected to remain around 40 kts. Hourly rain totals
    exceeding 0.5" remain possible, which would be most problematic in
    burn scars. Left the inherited Marginal Risk area intact though
    simplified the area's appearance.

    Roth

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, November 10, 2024 09:51:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 100924
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    424 AM EST Sun Nov 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 10 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS CENTRAL AND
    SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...

    Southwest and Central Louisiana...
    Moisture and instability from the Gulf gets advected from the
    vicinity of Raphael northwest to north across portions of the
    Central Gulf Coast through the Tennessee Valley. A slowly
    advancing convective complex early this morning across southwest LA
    is drifting eastward, showing hourly rain totals to 3" and
    isolated totals to 13" thus far over portions of Allen Parish.
    There is concern that this complex could hold together past 12z,
    which is part of the reason for the upgrade to a Slight Risk, after coordinating with the LCH/Lake Charles LA forecast office.
    Additional activity could form behind it closer to a surface
    boundary in TX (could be forming at the present time) which is
    expected to advect eastward during daytime heating. Moderate Risk
    level impacts cannot be ruled out should such thunderstorm activity
    persist over recently saturated soils into this afternoon.

    Southeast Louisiana...
    The guidance broadly remains unclear as to whether heavy rainfall
    gets too far ashore southeast LA while mesoscale guidance shows the
    complex to the west fizzling as it moves into the region.
    Precipitable water values of 1.5-2" Sunday morning across southeast
    LA advect offshore with time, which should limit heavy rainfall
    concerns. Still, hourly rain totals to 2" and local totals to 4"
    are possible on an isolated basis should storms backbuild or train.

    Interior Southeast/Mid-South/Tennessee Valley...
    The forward progress of the front should keep any excessive
    rainfall concerns minimal in areas a bit north of the Gulf Coast
    -- some of the risk area from eastern AR to the east-northeast just
    south of the OH river accounts for recent rains/some soil
    saturation. In this more northern portion of the Marginal Risk
    area, hourly totals up to ~1" with local totals to 2" appear to be
    the maximum potential. A decent amount of the area within the
    Marginal Risk would find the forecasted rainfall welcome.

    Changes to continuity were to shave off some of the northeast
    portion of the Marginal Risk area, using 00z HREF probabilities of
    0.5"+ as a guide, and include some of far southeast Texas to
    account for the limited QPF signal there as soils are a bit more
    sensitive after the past 24-36 hours of heavy rainfall.

    Roth


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Roth


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN AND NEAR
    WESTERN WASHINGTON...

    Precipitable water values of 0.75-1" advect in as a cold front
    approaches, perhaps moves ashore, the Washington and northern
    Oregon coast Wednesday morning. Inflow from the Pacific rises to
    60 kts at 850 hPa out of the south-southwest with limited
    instability available near and behind the front. The ingredients
    appear to be there for hourly rain totals of 0.5"+, which would be
    most problematic in burn scars. Over the full day, local amounts
    of 3-4" are advertised for much of the guidance, which would be
    most problematic along the Skokomish river in the Olympic
    Peninsula. Enough was there in the guidance for the inherited
    Marginal Risk area to remain from continuity; simplified its shape.

    Roth

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, November 11, 2024 08:51:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 110751
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    251 AM EST Mon Nov 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 11 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    A non-zero chance for flash flooding exists within the far
    Southeast Parishes of LA and along the immediate AL/MS coastal
    plain as lingering moisture on the northern periphery of the
    remnant low from Rafael will persist within the area mentioned
    above. Frontal progression to the northwest will slowly sink
    southeast with some CAMs initiating a period of stronger boundary
    layer convergence that would capable of north-south alignment of
    heavier rainfall situated over the Southeast-most Parishes in LA.
    The factor that will likely limit the threat will be the lower end
    rates between 1-2"/hr max that fall well-below the current FFG
    markers located over the proposed impact area. Totals of 2-4" with
    locally as high as 6" are depicted within a few of the CAMs, but
    it's not a full agreement in the suite neighborhood probabilities
    dropping off precipitously for accumulations >3". Decided to retain
    the current nil ERO nationally, but wanted to point out the low-
    end probability (<5%) for isolated flood concerns in the zone
    encompassing the above Parishes to the immediate coastline across
    both AL/MS.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    The next Atmospheric River will impact the PAC Northwest with an
    IVT pulse between 500-800 kg/ms signaling a modest moisture
    advection regime that historically leads to marginal flash
    flooding concerns along the immediate WA/OR coasts, the terrain of
    the Olympics and along the foothills of the Cascades where the
    orographic enhancement pattern is defined. PWAT anomalies between
    1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the region by the second
    half of the period with the heaviest precip likely coinciding with
    the initial moisture surge into the coastal plain. Some modest
    instability will be focused along the immediate coast as defined by
    the some of the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE output within the
    ensemble blend. Rates will be generally ~0.5"/hr within the
    heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr rates are plausible within
    the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as well the immediate coast of
    WA down into Northwest OR. This is the primary axis of the IVT
    pulse with a distinct west to southwest orientation of the mean
    flow. This initial surge will be more of a primer for the following
    day as the pattern spills into Wednesday, but some isolated flash
    flood concerns are plausible within the initial surge of the AR.
    The previously inherited MRGL risk was maintained with only a minor
    adjustment a touch further south in Oregon to reflect the latest
    trends in the mean QPF depicting >2" along the OR coast. Totals
    will be generally between 1-3" with isolated to 4" into the Olympic
    Peninsula, much of the precip falling within the 00-12z window on
    Wednesday.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AND OVER THE
    SOUTHEASTERN U.S...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from the D2 period continues through much of the
    D3 time frame with a waning signal towards Wednesday night into
    Thursday. IVT core will come ashore between Astoria down through
    the King Range of Southwestern OR with a signal for an additional
    2-4" of rainfall with locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic
    enhancement in-of the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a
    steady- state of 0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the
    primary core of the IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr
    with some 1-1.5"/hr rates plausible across those elevated coastal
    areas of OR and Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA
    state with the heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an
    additional 2-4" likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Two day
    totals over the coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6"
    with a max of 8" confined to both the Klamath-Siskiyou and Olympic
    Ranges thanks to some orographic enhancement providing localized
    QPF maxima that is customary from AR orientations extending from
    southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    The jury is still out on the expected intensity of the precip that
    develops, but considering the convective prospects given the
    theta-E advection pattern anticipated along with a source of
    surface based convergence along and ahead of the forecasted cold
    front, some stronger cores capable of rates >1-2"/hr and totals
    breaching 3" will be possible, as noted by some of the current
    deterministic. Ensemble bias corrected QPF output indicates some
    2-3" amounts across parts of the Deep South signaling the threat.
    UFVS First Guess Field has a MRGL risk encompassing parts of LA and
    MS where the heavy rainfall from recent days has really dropped the
    FFG indices across parts of the area. The antecedent conditions
    over Southwest and Central LA will be privy to a heightened flash
    flood threat leading a MRGL risk extending back into those areas.
    The MRGL encompasses much of the Lower Mississippi Valley over into
    AL extending up into TN, coinciding with the forecasted meridional
    extent of the theta-E progression which would lead to convective
    precipitation modes. Will assess as we get closer, but this is the
    proxy for where the expected heavier rainfall threats could occur.

    Kleebauer

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:02:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 120751
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    251 AM EST Tue Nov 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 12 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND NORTHWEST OREGON...

    The previous forecast remains steadfast with the expected totals
    and evolution of our next disturbance progged to enter the PAC
    Northwest. The next Atmospheric River is currently maneuvering
    through the Northeast Pacific with a well-defined IVT pulse located
    around the base of a strong, closed upper low and associated
    surface cyclone churning over the North Pacific as indicated via
    the latest CIMSS MIMIC-TPW satellite derived product. PWAT
    anomalies between 1-1.5 deviations above normal will enter the
    region by the second half of the period with the heaviest precip
    likely coinciding with the initial moisture surge into the coastal
    plain, forecast between 21-03z Wednesday (Late-afternoon and early
    evening PST). Some modest instability will be focused along the
    immediate coast as defined by the hi- res guidance and mean SBCAPE
    output within the ensemble blend (HREF/NBM). Rates will be
    generally ~0.5"/hr within the heavier bands, but some 0.75-1.25"/hr
    rates are plausible within the Olympics in Northwest WA state, as
    well the immediate coast of WA down into Northwest OR. This is the
    primary axis of the IVT pulse with a distinct west to southwest
    orientation of the mean flow. This initial surge will be more of a
    primer for the following day as the pattern spills beyond Wednesday
    morning, but some isolated flash flood concerns are plausible
    within the initial surge of the AR. The previously inherited MRGL
    risk was maintained coinciding with the higher (>50%) 12-hr
    probabilities of exceeding 2". Totals will be generally between
    1-3" with isolated to 5" into the Olympic Peninsula.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS WESTERN
    WASHINGTON AND OREGON, NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA, AS WELL AS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHEAST AND OHIO VALLEY ...

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Minimal changes were necessary from the previous forecast issuance
    as guidance maintains relevant continuity. Atmospheric River from
    the D1 period continues through much of the D2 time frame with a
    waning signal towards Wednesday night into Thursday. IVT core will
    come ashore between Astoria down through the King Range of
    Northwest CA with a signal for an additional 2-4" of rainfall with
    locally as high as 5.5" within the orographic enhancement in- of
    the Klamath Mountains. Rates will maintain a steady- state of
    0.25-0.5" over a span of several hours, but the primary core of the
    IVT pulse will likely ramp up rates >0.5"/hr with some 1-1.5"/hr
    rates plausible across those elevated coastal areas of OR and
    Northwestern CA. Rainfall will continue up into WA state with the
    heaviest rain confined to the Olympics with an additional 3-5"
    likely occurring northwest of Olympia. Multi-day totals over the
    coastal areas of WA/OR will settle between 3-6" with a max of 8"
    confined to both the Klamath- Siskiyou and Olympic Ranges thanks to
    some orographic enhancement providing localized QPF maxima that is
    customary from AR orientations extending from southwesterly flow.

    Additional flash flood opportunities will exist over portions of
    Northwest CA to areas south of Mount Shasta where remnant burn
    scars will act as an area of heightened concern with local FFG
    indices much lower than surrounding areas. Totals will be between
    2-4" in this area with the max of 5" occurring over the Northwest
    tip of CA north of Eureka where heavier rainfall longevity will
    enhance totals locally. A MRGL risk was maintained for the threat
    with much of Western WA/OR encompassed, as well as Northwest CA
    with an extension inland to south of Mount Shasta to cover for the
    burn scar areas that could see >1.5" of rainfall on Wednesday.

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A sprawling surface ridge east of the Mississippi will quickly
    migrate eastward allowing for a strong return flow pattern across
    the Southeastern U.S along the the western flank of the ridge.
    Lingering moisture stemming from the remnants of Rafael will
    fester in the Northern Gulf before being ushered poleward around
    that clockwise circulation from the high pressure controlling the
    pattern across the Mississippi Valley and points east. PWATs will
    elevate up close to +2 deviations lending credence to a suitable
    airmass for maintaining convective activity. Further west, a
    shortwave trough will migrate into the Central Plains with surface
    low pressure forming downstream across the Southern Plains/Mid-
    Mississippi Valley creating a strengthening convergence pattern
    along a cold front that develop on the tail end of the low.
    Progressive flow within the setup will alleviate some of the
    concerns of lingering precip that will develop from the Lower
    Mississippi Valley to points north and east.

    There has been a growing consensus on the expansion of convective
    activity across the Deep South into the Ohio Valley with a
    formidable heavy rain signature located across the Gulf coast where
    the best instability footprint is located, and across the Southern
    Ohio Valley where ascent will be maximized within the diffluent
    area of the upstream shortwave trough in tandem with the
    approaching cold front. QPF off the recent 00z HREF blended mean
    in the final 12-hrs signifies some potential for significant totals
    2" with a few CAMs depicting as much as 6" across portions of LA
    and MS with more of a 2-4" plateau across the Ohio Valley. Ensemble
    means are generally stable at 1-2" across a large area, but might
    be smoothing out the higher totals as is the bias of the ensemble
    blend. In any case, the pattern is certainly favorable for at least
    isolated prospects for flash flooding, especially in South-Central
    LA where recent QPE from 48 hrs prior sat at 5-10" with locally
    higher, so the threat in this locale is greatly enhanced just due
    to the antecedent soil moisture anomalies within the past few days.
    Further north is not nearly as robust in the soil moisture
    anomalies, however some areas within TN and Western KY do have
    some lingering top-layer soil moisture from the same event that
    occurred in LA. The previous MRGL risk was maintained with a minor
    adjustment north into Southern IN as reflected within the latest
    QPF trends and expected northern edge of the heaviest precip
    Wednesday night into Thursday. Discrepancy in the exact placement
    of heavier convection across the Gulf states deterred an additional
    upgrade over the region, however the threat for at least one risk
    category higher is in play as we move closer to the event. For now,
    a blanket MRGL risk was sufficient with the potential for an
    upgrade plausible in the next few forecast updates.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, November 13, 2024 08:52:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 130749
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    249 AM EST Wed Nov 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 13 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE DEEP SOUTH...

    ...Southeast U.S and Ohio Valley...

    A 1034mb surface ridge is currently analyzed over the Great Lakes
    and adjacent Ontario Province with an expected translation eastward
    over the next 24 hrs leading to an increasing return flow pattern
    over the Southeastern U.S. Current v-vector anomalies pinpoint the
    strongest return flow between sfc-850mb bisecting areas from LA
    into MS and Western AL leading to ample moisture being pulled
    poleward as far north as the Great Lakes. PWAT anomalies on the
    order of +2 to +3 deviations will be co-located with the strongest
    v-vector component leading to a broadening area of elevated
    moisture and accompanying theta-E's indicative of greater
    instability, especially the closer you are to the Gulf. Across the
    Plains, a potent shortwave trough will shift eastward with
    increasing mid and upper level ascent across areas downstream
    within the Low to Mid-Mississippi Valley area. The combination of
    the pattern evolution will aid in increased convective development
    and coverage, especially as we work through the late-morning time
    frame and beyond during the period.

    Heavy rain potential will be on the rise with the introduction of
    the thunderstorm risk with rainfall totals from the latest HREF
    blended mean now sufficiently into the 1.5"+ territory with
    associated CAMs signaling isolated totals >4" during the time frame
    of convective impact. This has ramped up probabilistic signals with
    the neighborhood probs now upwards of 40-70% across portions of
    South-Central LA through much of MS with the highest probs located
    over the MS Delta over to Jackson. Organized convective pattern is
    most likely to occur over this area thanks to the approach of a
    cold front upstream stemming from surface low development over the
    Southern Plains, moving northeast through the Mississippi Valley
    after nightfall. Hourly rates within the heaviest convection across
    the Deep South is likely to range from 1-2"/hr on average, but some
    non-zero prospects for 2.5-3"/hr persists within the CAMs and
    expressed through the probability fields on the 00z HREF output.
    Typically these signals would warrant a MRGL risk for excessive
    rainfall, but considering the soils across parts of LA and MS still
    recovering from the onslaught of heavy precip from a few days
    prior, the antecedent environment is a bit more conducive for flash
    flood prospects. In coordination with the local WFOs within LA and
    MS, a Slight Risk was added to encompass areas where heavier
    convection is most likely considering the pattern evolution, as
    well as covering the areas where top layer soil moisture anomalies
    lie above the 70th percentile as reported by the updated NASA SPoRT
    data.

    The remainder of the Southeast and points up into the Ohio Valley
    will maintain the previous MRGL risk forecast with only a minor
    expansion to the north and east to account for some of the trends
    of increasing heavy rainfall potential through Northern KY as the
    system remains fairly progressive in its forward propagation.
    Limited instability will also cap the risk for significant rainfall
    rates, but instances of >1"/hr are certainly plausible considering
    the prime mid-level evolution and approaching cold front providing
    surface based forcing. Totals will be closer to the 1-2" range for
    most, but 2-3" is within reason in the heaviest rain cores.

    ...Pacific Northwest...

    Atmospheric River from this evening will continue to unfold across
    the Pacific Northwest with the IVT pulse orienting further south
    through the morning and early afternoon with heavy rain impacting
    areas of Southwest OR through much of Northwestern CA with the
    heaviest rain focused at the immediate coast into the interior
    terrain aligning from the Klamath Mountains down towards the King
    Range south of Eureka. The forecast has been very consistent on the
    threat the past several days with little deviation in the expected
    outcome with totals ranging from 2-4" at the immediate coast from
    WA down through Northern CA with 3-6", local maxima of 8" during
    the 48-hr period of impact over places like the Olympic Range in WA
    state and the Klamath Range down in Southwestern OR. The premise of
    the MRGL risk was mainly for 3 or 6 hour FFG exceedance intervals,
    along with some 24 hour FFG potential, mainly located over the
    Olympics for the latter index. Hourly rates will be majority sub-
    FFG exceedance, however some 1-1.5"/hr rates during the height of
    the IVT surge Wednesday morning over the coastal mountain ranges
    could be sufficient for isolated flooding prospects before becoming
    more of an accumulative rainfall concern over time. The one area
    where the heavier precip is not anticipated but still a relative
    concern remains in the area located south of Mount Shasta and
    points west where remnant burn scars maintain locally lower FFG
    indices leading to a heightened threat for flash flooding where the
    scarring is located. This is the reason for the inland extent
    across Northern CA and to maintain consistent messaging with the
    local WFO for the threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, November 14, 2024 09:27:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 140754
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    254 AM EST Thu Nov 14 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 14 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Maturing surface cyclone off the VA/NC coast will amplify
    rainfall prospects over the VA Tidewater into Eastern NC late this
    afternoon and evening with a developing axis of deformation driving
    elevated convective concerns in the aforementioned areas. Totals
    between 1.5-3" are forecast within these zones with some minor
    flooding possible over urban zones and the immediate coast,
    coinciding with coastal flooding likely occurring. Rainfall rates
    will fall short of the necessary criteria to meet FFG exceedance,
    however a non-zero threat will exist for flash flood concerns
    across Northern NC into Southern and Southeast VA in urban zones
    that are more prone to flooding prospects. This is still below the
    5% threshold necessary for flash flooding leading to a continued
    nil ERO, but non-zero threat.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, October 18, 2024 08:41:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 180833
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    433 AM EDT Fri Oct 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 18 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN INTERMOUNTAIN REGION AND ADJACENT SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    Overall...the synoptic pattern continued to maintain good
    continuity with previous runs...showing ab upper trough/closed-
    low over the Great Basin that eases eastward with time and the
    strongest large scale ascent maximized downstream of the mean
    trough with a pronounced diffluent pattern. This has allowed the
    the Day 2 outlook from Thursday to propagate into the Day 1 outlook
    without significant change. Ensemble guidance is in
    relative agreement on the placement of two maxima during the
    forecast period; one located Northeast AZ into Southeast UT with
    the initial diffluent signature ahead of the evolving upper low
    over the Great Basin, and the secondary maxima across Northeastern
    NM where the convergence pattern aided by increasing large scale
    ascent will generate a period of heavier precip this evening and
    into the early morning hours of Saturday morning. Did make a minor
    adjustment in moving the Marginal risk area around most of the
    Sangre de Cristo area to avoid too much overlap with the WPC winter
    weather desk deterministic snowfall forecast. Slot canyons, and
    flashier river basins within the Four Corners area will offer a
    greater risk of flash flooding with a secondary threat over the
    remnant burn scars in northern New Mexico, This allowed for a
    maintenance of the previous MRGL risk.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 19 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS INTO SOUTHEAST COLORADO...

    ...Southern Plains...

    Forecast rainfall continues to slowly increase across the southern
    Plains in response to a quasi-stationary stationary upper low which
    begins to tap deeper moisture will begin to tap into increasing
    Gulf moisture. By Day 2/Friday the moisture plume will be well
    established. Given the steering flow changes will be slow, the
    excellent forcing east of the upper level low and increasing
    instability will all favor the development of storms on Saturday capable
    of producing heavy downpours that lead to flooding/flash flooding
    over an otherwise mostly parched/arid area. While individual storms
    may be progressive given the low level wind speeds involved, the
    placement of the strongest forcing moves little on
    Saturday/Saturday night suggesting the threat of repeat convection
    or training of cells...especially over northeast New Mexico.
    Modified the previous Marginal risk area to avoid the highest
    terrain of the Sangre de Cristo range given the elevation forcing
    the predominant precipitation type as snow.

    ...Northwestern Washington State...

    As the Day 3 period begins at 12Z on Saturday...a well defined
    atmospheric river should be settling into Washington from the
    north, resulting in local rainfall totals of 3-5 inches for the
    period. Integrated Vapor Transport values at the peak could exceed
    900 kg/m/s, which is a bit stronger than the typical A.R., but
    nothing major. When added to Friday's rain totals, this will likely
    be enough rain to result in isolated flash flooding. Even if the
    highest elevations see snow, the large majority of the rainfall
    into the mountains will be in the form of rain. Saw little reason
    to make to many changes to the region of greatest excessive risk
    based on terrain- forced upslope/downslope regions at this point.
    Only the first 12 hours of the Day 2 period were covered by the
    18/00Z HREF probabilities...but the probabilities of 2 inch amount
    of liquid precipitation are roughly 50 percent in the terrain of
    the Olympics and the far northern Cascades.

    Bann


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 20 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS...

    There threat of excessive rainfall is expected to linger into
    Sunday from parts of northeast New Mexico and adjacent portions of
    the Texas panhandle northeastward into southwest Kansas in a region
    of upper level difluence east of the closed low/upper trough
    back closer to the four-corners region. The additional rainfall in
    this period does not look to be blockbuster in nature...perhaps 1
    to 1.5 inches...but it will be in addition to the amounts that fall
    mainly in the Day 2 period. During the period... model guidance
    suggests a weakening of the upper level feature near the four-
    corners and surface high pressure building southward east of the
    front range will help lead to decreasing coverage and rainfall
    intensity with time.

    Bann
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, October 16, 2024 09:26:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 160802
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    402 AM EDT Wed Oct 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 16 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less than
    5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 17 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 18 2024

    ...2030Z Update...

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 18 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    NORTHERN NEW MEXICO INTO SOUTHERN COLORADO...

    Longwave pattern will evolve into a fairly prolific upper
    trough/closed-low over the Great Basin, slowly migrating eastward
    with sights on the Four Corners. Large scale ascent will become
    maximized downstream of the mean trough with a pronounced diffluent
    pattern in-of the Southern Rockies, including the Sangre de Cristo
    and San Juan mountain ranges where heavier precip is forecast. A
    cold front will slowly propagate eastward from the primary
    disturbance with a return flow setup pressing westward across the
    Eastern NM plains on the western flank of a sprawling surface high
    east of the Mississippi. A secondary cold front to the north will
    plunge southward thanks to a strong ridge of high pressure
    developing upstream in wake of the primary western low, along with
    a lee side trough developing over the Front Range. The tandem of
    boundaries and backed flow will converge over Northern NM with a
    strong isentropic ascent pattern initiating later Friday evening
    through Saturday AM and beyond.

    Convective signals are most pronounced in the initial stages of
    the pattern evolution mainly due to the return flow setup where
    more unstable air will advect northwestward into the Eastern NM
    plains before banking against the lee of the Southern Rockies. Both
    ensemble and deterministic output for heavy precip are locked in
    across the area encompassing much of Northern NM, but especially
    within the confines of places like Raton and points south where
    topographic enhancement within the convergent axis will generate
    local precip maxima when the convergence pattern truly solidifies
    late in the period. Totals of 1-2" of precip are forecast on the
    southern edge of the San Juans down into portions of the Sangre de
    Cristos, closing in on some of the prevalent burn scars in the
    region. A secondary maxima of 1-2" is forecast over that main axis
    of convergence over Northeastern NM in vicinity of the eastern
    flank of the Sangre de Cristos, including places like Taos and
    Angel Fire over into parts of the plains in the lee of the mountain
    chain. The period before will be more of a primer for the main
    event this period through the following D4 time frame. The
    combination of better moisture return and large scale forcing via
    diffluent mid- level flow and jet coupling provides ample support
    for a continuation of the previous MRGL risk, as well as an
    expansion of the risk area further southwest and east to match the
    ensemble QPF footprint in areas of highest convective potential.

    Kleebauer
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 17, 2024 08:57:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 170804
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    404 AM EDT Thu Oct 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 17 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 18 2024

    Relative progressive nature of precipitation across Northern NM
    will alleviate much of the flash flood concerns this afternoon,
    however the very low FFG's in place over each existing burn scar
    within the Sangre de Cristos will offer an opportunity for
    localized flooding within each impacted zone. Current HREF probs
    for >1" of precip is around 50-60% within the neighborhood derived
    analysis. This is still very lacking within the EAS prob field
    leading to a pattern of less widespread heavier precipitation
    totals and more relegated to very localized maxima likely over the
    tops of the mountain chain. The best depiction is outlined over the
    San Juan Mountains where a majority of the precipitation will fall
    as snow or a rain/snow mix mitigating the threat for flash flooding
    during the period. This has allowed for a continuation of the nil
    ERO across the CONUS, but still a non-zero presence within the burn
    scars of Northern NM.

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less than
    5 percent.

    Kleebauer


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 18 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE FOUR CORNERS REGION THROUGH NORTHERN NEW MEXICO...

    Longwave pattern will continue evolving into a fairly prolific
    upper trough/closed-low over the Great Basin, slowly migrating
    eastward with sights on the Four Corners. Large scale ascent will
    become maximized downstream of the mean trough with a pronounced
    diffluent pattern in-of the Southern Rockies, including the Sangre
    de Cristo and San Juan mountain ranges where heavier precip is
    forecast. A cold front will slowly propagate eastward from the
    primary disturbance with a return flow setup pressing westward
    across the Eastern NM plains on the western flank of a sprawling
    surface high east of the Mississippi. A secondary cold front to the
    north will plunge southward thanks to a strong ridge of high
    pressure developing upstream in wake of the primary western low,
    along with a lee side trough developing over the Front Range. The
    tandem of boundaries and backed flow will converge over Northern NM
    with a strong isentropic ascent pattern initiating later Friday
    evening through Saturday AM and beyond.

    There has been very little deviation in the guidance to amass much
    of a change compared to the previous forecast, so a general
    continuity was maintained from the inherited MRGL risk across the
    Four Corners into Northern NM. Ensemble guidance is in relative
    agreement on the placement of two maxima during the forecast
    period; one located Northeast AZ into Southeast UT with the initial
    diffluent signature ahead of the evolving upper low over the Great
    Basin, and the secondary maxima across Northeastern NM where the
    convergence pattern aided by increasing large scale ascent will
    generate a period of heavier precip Friday evening into Saturday
    morning and beyond. Each areal maxima is similar with regards to
    precip magnitude with a general neighborhood 1-2" max with a small
    chance at upwards of 2.5" across the western maxima within the best
    upper ascent within the nose of the 100kt 250mb jet streak. The
    secondary maxima is generally within the last 12-hr window
    encompassing 00-12z Saturday with the heaviest QPF footprint
    actually highest in D3 (More on that in the D3 period below). In
    any case, the very dry antecedent conditions, slot canyons, and
    flashier river basins within the Four Corners area will offer a
    greater risk of flash flooding with a secondary threat over the
    remnant burn scars in Northern NM. This allowed for a maintenance
    of the previous MRGL risk.

    Kleebauer


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 19 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS INTO SOUTHEASTERN COLORADO...

    Closed upper circulation will slowly migrate eastward with a
    persistent diffluent channel focused in-of the Eastern NM High
    Plains up into the Colorado Front Range for Saturday. A uni-
    directional flow located within the lowest 600mb will persistent
    through much, if not all the forecast period allowing for moist
    unstable air to be pulled poleward into the confines of the Caprock
    and points north. ECENS PWAT anomalies are forecast to run upwards
    of 3-3.5 deviations above normal with an M-Climate Percentile
    (Forecasts relative to the last 20 years during time of year) that
    is peeking into the seasonal max, a testament to the anomalous
    nature of the moisture advection regime. With the poleward
    advancement of the airmass, regional theta-E's spike with a theta-E
    ridge positioning located right over the NM/TX border running clear
    into Front Range of CO and nearby KS. This signal is consistent
    with a persistent band of rainfall likely to be situated within the
    theta-E ridge mentioned above and just out ahead of the slow-moving quasi-stationary front trailing the very slow moving to perhaps stationary
    low pressure across Southern CO.

    Precip totals of 2-4" with locally higher amounts are increasingly
    likely within that corridor between Clovis up through Southeastern
    CO with the max likely driven by repeating convection as small
    mid-level perturbations rotate around the general upper circulation
    and move overhead of the areas above. The only saving grace for a
    more significant flash flood potential is the antecedent conditions
    leading in are very dry with the 0-10cm relative soil moisture
    percentiles running between 5-20% across the area anticipated to
    see the most rainfall. Initial rains will be beneficial, but will
    add through the course of the period with waves of heavier rain
    likely exacerbating areas by later in the period into early Sunday.
    The previous SLGT risk was generally maintained with a MRGL
    surrounding. Both risks were expanded somewhat on the southern and
    northern peripheries to account for a trend in an expansion of
    precip latitudinally in either direction. The heaviest will likely
    encompass Eastern NM into Southeast CO with these areas likely
    trending towards the higher end of SLGT risk if the signal remains
    and/or amplifies further.

    Kleebauer
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, October 13, 2024 08:55:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 130801
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    401 AM EDT Sun Oct 13 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS INTO THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA URBAN CORRIDOR...

    No changes were made to the inherited Marginal risk area over the
    southeast FL urban corridor. Isolated convection will be ongoing at
    12z this morning along the coastal convergence axis...with another
    round of activity likely this afternoon. It is the afternoon
    convection that appears to have better instability to work with,
    and thus a better chance of more robust development. Coverage
    remains a question, but high res guidance suggests a weak surface
    trough/wave moving across south FL should help locally enhance
    convergence this afternoon.

    With any deeper convection tapping into the stronger westerly flow
    aloft, the tendency may be for cells to have more of an eastward
    motion this afternoon, limiting rainfall duration as cells move
    offshore. However if low level easterly flow is strong enough
    and/or the low level convergence axis is persistent enough, then
    we could see at least some cell training for a period of time.
    Overall the ingredients are in place to suggest a localized flash
    flood risk is a possibility. HREF guidance supports isolated 3"
    totals, but there is minimal model support for amounts much higher
    than that. The Marginal risk should cover this isolated urban
    flash flood threat...as not seeing enough support for Slight risk
    level impacts/coverage at this time.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 14 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 15 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, October 11, 2024 08:27:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 110721
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    321 AM EDT Fri Oct 11 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 11 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Easterly low level flow will bring showery conditions to the
    central and southeast Atlantic coast of FL today into tonight.
    However with PWs below 2" and instability limited not currently
    expecting rainfall rates or totals to reach levels of concern for
    flash flooding. Thus we will continue to carry no risk area in the
    ERO.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 12 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS INTO THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA URBAN CORRIDOR...

    Moisture and instability return northward into southern FL Saturday
    into Saturday night, with PWs increasing towards 2.25" and CAPE
    over 1000 j/kg. Meanwhile a weak wave moving into the eastern Gulf
    of Mexico may result in an uptick in low level flow and
    convergence. Thus expect we should gradually see an uptick in
    convective coverage this weekend over the Keys into south FL.

    Easterly low level flow and westerly upper level winds support the
    potential for slow moving convective cells near the coastal
    convergence axis. Timing remains a bit uncertain, and the better
    convective coverage may end up more over the Keys this period
    (where flash flooding is harder to come by), but given the
    increasing moisture and instability there is at least a conditional
    threat of localized flash flooding Saturday into Saturday night
    into the more urban areas of southeast FL. If deep convection does
    indeed develop then urban flash flooding is possible from the
    upper Keys into southeast FL.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS INTO THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA URBAN CORRIDOR...

    The risk on day 3 is a continuation of the threat on day 2 over
    Southeast FL. The overall thermodynamic ingredients remain the
    same, however there is a chance that forcing will be stronger by
    Sunday. Still some timing and positional differences amongst the
    guidance, but the general consensus is for a weak wave to move
    across FL Sunday, which should both result in a subtle uptick in
    mid/upper forcing and locally enhance lower level convergence.

    Thus currently expecting a greater chance of loosely organized
    convective clusters Sunday into Sunday night...and with wind fields
    still supporting slow moving cells...this activity could tend to
    anchor along the coastal convergence axis for a while. Thus
    isolated urban flash flooding is considered possible. Certainly a
    chance that a Slight risk may be needed for one of these weekend
    days...but given some uncertainty with the synoptic evolution and
    convective coverage, think a good first step is just introducing
    Marginal risks for both days 2 and 3 (Sat and Sun) and continue to
    monitor trends.

    Chenard
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, October 12, 2024 08:57:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 120752
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    352 AM EDT Sat Oct 12 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 12 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS INTO THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA URBAN CORRIDOR...

    Moisture and instability return northward into southern Florida
    today which should result in deeper convection and the potential
    for higher rainfall rates with PWs increasing towards 2.25".
    Meanwhile a weak wave moving into the eastern Gulf of Mexico should
    result in an uptick in low level flow and convergence. Thus expect
    we should gradually see an uptick in deeper convective coverage
    over the Keys into south FL and the adjacent waters today into
    tonight.

    The overall synoptic pattern still looks to favor slow moving
    convective cells along and near the coastal convergence axis given
    easterly low level flow and westerly upper level winds. Timing and
    the CAPE distribution over land remain a bit uncertain. Some model
    guidance wants to keep the better instability and convergence
    offshore or over the Keys, while others shift these ingredients
    more into the Southeast Fl coastal urban corridor. This decreases
    confidence with regards to convective evolution.

    The ingredients in place in the vicinity certainly support the
    potential for a localized higher end flash flood event somewhere
    within the southeast FL urban corridor today and/or tonight.
    However the signal in the 00z HREF guidance is mixed, and overall
    just not seeing enough in the probability fields to suggest we are
    at Slight risk level coverage or confidence at this time. Thus we
    will maintain the Marginal risk and continue to monitor
    observational and model trends.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 14 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS INTO THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA URBAN CORRIDOR...

    The risk on day 2 is a continuation of the threat on day 1 over
    Southeast Florida. The overall thermodynamic ingredients remain
    similar, however there is still spread with the mesoscale to
    synoptic setup. The 00z GFS and ECMWF have trended quicker with the
    weak wave and suggest the better organized convective risk Sunday
    will now be offshore and over the Bahamas. However the Gem Reg and
    some HREF members appear slower and focus more convection over
    south FL.

    The uncertainty in these details appears too large to go with
    anything more than a Marginal risk at this time. Overall do tend to
    think the flood risk Sunday is trending down compared to what it
    looked like last night (given the trends noted in the ECMWF and
    GFS), but favorable moisture and instability parameters suggest at
    least a localized flash flood risk could persist.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 14 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 15 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 10, 2024 08:03:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 100827
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    427 AM EDT Thu Oct 10 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 10 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    EAST-CENTRAL TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA...

    Heavy rainfall from Milton continues to quickly move east across
    the Florida Peninsula. Additional rain of 1 to 4 inches is likely
    over the next couple hours along portions of the central and
    northern FL east coast. However based on recent radar and HRRR
    trends it appears likely that most, if not all, of this heavier
    rain will be offshore by 12z this morning. Thus while areas of
    considerable flash flooding will continue over the next few hours,
    the expectation is that additional flash flooding after 12z will be
    minimal. For that reason we will carry only a Marginal risk on the
    new day 1 ERO that goes into effect at 12z this morning. The
    ongoing High risk remains valid for the next couple hours until
    12z. Keep in mind that even after the heavy rain ends, significant
    areal and river flooding will continue to be a concern in areas
    that have received significant rainfall.

    Chenard


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 11 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 12 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 12 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 13 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Chenard

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, October 08, 2024 07:44:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 080816
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    416 AM EDT Tue Oct 8 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    No significant changes were made to the ERO risk areas for this period.

    "The calm before the storm" will be in place over much of Florida
    today. This isn't to say it won't rain anywhere...but the risk of
    heavy rain causing flooding on most of the Peninsula today will
    most certainly be the lowest of the next few days. A stationary
    front in the same tropical moisture plume as Milton is draped
    across southern Florida. This is providing a focus for heavier
    showers and storms south of the front from Miami south through the
    Keys. Since the storms are tracking parallel to the front, training
    is a significant concern this morning. As any mesolow tracking
    along the front moves off, the heavy rain threat in the Keys should
    diminish by this afternoon due to increasing influence of Milton.
    For the rest of the Florida Peninsula, most of today should be dry,
    especially the further north you go. This is because drier air
    associated with a jet across the Panhandle is sinking southward
    with a front and will ultimately catch Milton and force
    extratropical transition as it approaches Florida. For today
    however, it will keep things largely dry along and north of the
    eventual track of the storm.

    The rainfall threat (and the basis for the ongoing Slight) is
    largely tied to any showers and storms that may form...most likely
    from mesoscale effects like differential heating and sea breezes.
    Due to an excess of atmospheric moisture over most of Florida with
    PWATs of 2.25 to 2.75 inches today, any storms that form, even if
    disorganized and not associated with any discernible forcing...will
    have a superabundance of moisture to work with to convert to
    rainfall. Much of south Florida has seen multiple inches of rain
    over the past few days. While not prolific enough to cause
    widespread flooding concerns, they have kept soils close to
    saturated. This will play a role in the eventual flooding concerns
    with Milton. 00Z HREF guidance highlights portions of the Treasure
    Coast with the highest chances of 3 inches or more of rain today
    not directly associated with Milton.

    A higher end Slight remains in place for the Gulf Coast from Tampa
    south through Naples. This is largely tied to the initial rain
    bands from Milton which will begin to impact the coast in the
    predawn hours Wednesday before the start of the Day 2 period.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 09 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    CENTRAL FLORIDA...

    ...WIDESPREAD AND NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF FLASH FLOODING ARE
    EXPECTED WITH LIFE-THREATENING AND CATASTROPHIC FLASH FLOODING PROBABLE...

    With the ingestion of some of the longer range CAMs into the model
    suite, the forecasted rainfall directly associated with Hurricane
    Milton's crossing of the Florida Peninsula has increased markedly
    from previous forecasts. The latest storm total rainfall has over
    11 inches of rain for Tampa, 8 inches near and north of Orlando,
    and 5.5 inches for Jacksonville. The corridor of the High risk
    following the entire length of I-4 has seen the most impactful
    increases in forecasted rainfall. Obviously there has been a nearly
    historic increase in Milton's strength in the last 24 hours, and
    all of this added energy and Gulf moisture will mean more rainfall
    to come along its track, despite its fast forward speed.

    The heaviest rainfall amounts along I-4 and north will generally
    will be immediately along and north of the most probable track of
    Milton's center. As mentioned in the NHC discussions, Milton is
    expected to be well into the process of extratropical transition by
    the time the storm crosses the Peninsula. This process should
    greatly limit the amount of rainfall expected south of the center,
    as dry air entrainment into the southwest quadrant of the storm is
    an essential aspect of the extratropical transition process. Thus,
    nearly all of the impressive tropical moisture associated with
    Milton will be focused along and north of the center, and therefore
    represents the greatest threats for flash flooding. The ERO risk
    categories drop off a bit slower on the south side since the
    predecessor rainfall event (PRE) of the past couple days and today
    was largely focused on south Florida, as the stationary front that
    has been there has persisted. Inflow into Milton's circulation and
    the eventual development of a cold front south of the center
    should still lead to bands of rain criss-crossing south Florida
    from west to east. Since the PRE saturated this area the most...the
    lesser amounts of rain expected here may still cause flooding
    impacts...so the ERO risk categories south of the track may be a
    bit generous.

    Meanwhile on the north side of the circulation, abundant dry air
    associated with a separate cold front and jet streak over the
    Panhandle and far north Florida should act as a very effective sink
    for the portion of Milton's rainfall that drifts too far away from
    the center. Since this area has been quite dry in recent days, the
    threat for flooding will be much more constricted, and therefore
    the ERO risk categories are much more compact.

    The additional rainfall now in the forecast will be one factor for flooding...while another one will be storm surge and tidal
    flooding, especially south of the center where the flow will be
    onshore and to a slightly lesser but still impactful extent, to
    the north of the center on the Atlantic side where there will also
    be onshore flow. At the time of high tide and the storm surge, the
    added water from the Gulf/Atlantic will effectively block effective
    drainage from the rainfall falling over the interior. The 6-12
    inches (with locally higher amounts of rainfall) having nowhere to
    drain due to the high tide and storm surge flooding will also work
    to exacerbate the flooding impacts from Milton since that rain
    water will have nowhere to drain.

    Given all of the above, and despite the small to medium size of the
    storm and the acceleration of the storm in the forecast, a High
    Risk was introduced in coordination with TBW/Tampa, FL;
    MLB/Melbourne, FL, and JAX/Jacksonville, FL forecast offices. It's
    probable that the greatest flooding impacts will be with storm
    surge primarily, but also the portions of the nearshore rivers,
    streams, and creeks (especially near landfall) where the inland
    flood waters from heavy rainfall are unable to drain to the Gulf.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 10 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 11 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR ORLANDO AND
    PORTIONS OF THE FIRST AND SPACE COASTS...

    A rare double upgrade was introduced with this update, with
    potential for further adjustments with future updates. The latest
    guidance suggests that the wraparound rain to the north and
    northwest of the center of Milton will persist well into the day on
    Thursday. Thus, associated forecast rainfall has increased
    markedly from the previous forecasts. For the Moderate Risk area,
    expect an additional 2 to 4 inches of rain after the 12Z/8am
    Thursday start of the day 3 period. With a High Risk on Day 2,
    further increases in the forecast rainfall may require a High Risk
    in this general area to continue into Thursday. Obviously,
    adjustments in the speed and track of Milton as it races off the
    coast will result in additional big changes to this ERO forecast.

    Essentially, the Day 3 ERO is just a continuation of the Day 2
    rainfall with Milton. The vast majority of the rainfall for the
    period will fall during the day Thursday, and expect trimming and
    downgrades through the day as the rain ends from west to east.
    Expect widespread and catastrophic flooding from the Day 2 period
    to continue through the Day 3 period as the rain ends.

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, October 06, 2024 09:59:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 060758
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    358 AM EDT Sun Oct 6 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE MIAMI-
    FORT LAUDERDALE METRO...

    In coordination with the MFL/Miami, FL forecast office, a Moderate
    Risk upgrade was introduced with this update.

    A weak surface low is developing over the eastern Gulf well east of
    T.S. Milton, but in the same plume of incredibly deep tropical
    moisture. The low will drift southeastward toward south Florida.
    This will increase the easterly flow over the Straits of Florida
    between the Bahamas and Florida. This increased easterly flow in an
    air mass with PWATs between 2.25 and 2.5 inches will both increase
    the concentration and intensity of resultant thunderstorms over the
    Gold Coast.

    Portions of the Ft. Lauderdale and Miami metros saw up to 3 inches
    of rain on Saturday. Rainfall amounts today and especially tonight
    may accumulate to over 6 inches in that time. With saturated soils
    and urban effects, the threat for ponding and flooding in the area
    has greatly increased. Expect numerous areas of ponding and
    flooding from today's rainfall, which necessitated the Moderate
    Risk upgrade.

    Elsewhere, the surrounding Slight Risk was expanded to include the
    Gulf Coast from Tampa south and the Atlantic coast from Cape
    Canaveral south. The aforementioned low will enhance rainfall rates
    along much of the Gulf Coast from Tampa south, where heavy rainfall
    Saturday caused localized flash flooding. This additional rainfall
    on saturated soils will cause renewed flash flooding, mostly in
    urban areas. Further north up the Atlantic coast, similar
    convergence as further south is expected, but with lesser forcing,
    resulting in lower rainfall amounts for the Treasure and Space
    Coasts. Widely scattered instances of flash flooding are expected.

    Finally, for the middle of the Florida Peninsula, the area will be
    furthest from the strongest forcing, resulting in a local minimum
    of rainfall. Since the area will not have tidal flooding concerns
    and is somewhat less developed, only isolated flash flooding is
    expected. The threat for heavy rainfall will continue up to the
    Georgia coast however, where a local convergence zone may develop
    as indicated in several of the CAMs. The Marginal was expanded
    north to account for this possibility.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA AND THE KEYS...

    The weak surface low that will bring heavy rain to south Florida on
    Sunday will continue eastward over the Peninsula and into the
    Bahamas by Monday afternoon. Heavy rain will likely continue over
    the southern Peninsula through at least Monday morning. There is
    considerable disagreement on the track, strength and the speed of
    the low, which will play a major role in how long the heavy rain
    persists into Monday afternoon. With somewhat better agreement that
    rainfall amounts will at least be lower than on Sunday, the Slight
    risk for the area that was inherited was largely maintained, albeit
    including some of the interior of the Peninsula as soils become
    saturated area-wide, resulting in close to 100% conversion of heavy
    rain to runoff. An internal higher-end Slight is in place for the
    Gold Coast, for the potential that should amounts from Sunday
    verify, then another targeted Moderate Risk upgrade will be
    necessary. Meanwhile, a second day of very heavy rain and
    thunderstorms is expected to impact all of the Keys, which at high
    tide times may cause flooding due to poor drainage.

    With some of the other CAMs moving the low across the southern
    Peninsula and east to the Bahamas, portions of the Gulf Coast,
    especially north of Ft. Myers/Cape Coral up through Tampa are in
    the rare decreasing trend in the forecast rainfall amounts on
    Monday. Thus, the Slight that extended up through Tampa was
    downgraded to a Marginal north of Ft. Myers/Cape Coral with this
    update.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    The PRE (predecessor rain event) will enter its third and final day
    over the Florida Peninsula on Tuesday. The trough that occasionally
    spins up weak surface lows will remain in place across the
    Peninsula. The circulation of what will then be Hurricane Milton
    will make its approach to the Gulf Coast of Florida, likely near
    Tampa very late Tuesday night/early Wednesday morning. At this
    time, expect little of the rainfall directly associated with
    Milton's core to yet impact the Florida Peninsula. Of course, with
    future updates and forecast changes from NHC, this may change.
    Given the inherent uncertainty with the track and speed of this
    small hurricane, the Slight over the Peninsula was maintained,
    albeit with some filling in in the middle of the Peninsula near the
    Orlando area. There remains a bimodal distribution of the rain with
    much more expected along the Gulf coast from Tampa down through
    Naples, but with a secondary maximum for the Space and First
    Coasts.

    With the latest guidance, there is some offset of the axis of
    heaviest rainfall ahead of Milton. The northward trend will reduce
    amounts in portions of the hard-hit Gold Coast in favor of more
    rain for the northern Peninsula towards the First Coast. By Tuesday
    the greatest overlap will be over the Gulf Coast. It is here than
    an internal higher-end Slight was introduced for the Tampa through
    Naples area due to increasing amounts of heavy rain moving into the
    coast, being moved along by the predominant southwesterly flow in
    the trough ahead of Milton's core circulation. Heavy rainfall both
    the past couple days as well as expected both today and Tuesday
    should keep all of the soils on the Florida Peninsula at or near
    saturation, resulting in nearly all of the rainfall converting to
    runoff. Thus, progressively less rainfall will be needed to result
    in flooding.

    Despite Milton and directly associated rains largely holding to the
    Day 4/Wednesday period, it appears that similar to Helene, most of
    the rain over the Florida Peninsula will be associated with the
    PRE, while the heaviest rain (as well as wind and storm surge) will
    conclude the multi-day rain event with Milton moving through,
    causing much more widespread flooding.

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, October 07, 2024 09:52:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 070823
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    423 AM EDT Mon Oct 7 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE GOLD
    COAST AND THE UPPER FLORIDA KEYS...

    Very few changes were made to the inherited EROs for this period.

    A leading low, front, and surface trough over the eastern Gulf and
    Florida well ahead of Hurricane Milton continues to spread rain
    over nearly all of the Florida Peninsula this morning. The low will
    shift east over the Everglades and South Florida today. Ahead of
    the low, additional showers and thunderstorms capable of very heavy
    rainfall rates due to the extremely moist environment will
    continue. Portions of the Gold Coast saw 2-4 inches of rain
    yesterday, resulting in localized flash flooding, so the potential
    for that much rain again today supports the continuance of the
    Moderate Risk. The trailing front south and west of the low will
    remain stationary near Southwest Florida and the Keys. This will
    keep the threat for heavy rainfall ongoing through tonight. The
    Slight Risk area remains in place for these regions as far
    southwest Florida is the swampy Everglades and the Keys present
    very small targets for heavy rain. If training cells were to move
    over the Keys during high tide then flooding is probable.

    HREF probabilities suggest the heaviest rain today all over south
    Florida are more likely to remain offshore, so the heavy rain
    threat is slightly lower today compared to yesterday/Sunday.
    Convergence along the Atlantic coast remains prevalent today, so
    the Slight Risk remains in place to the north through the Space and
    Treasure Coasts. With the center of the low tracking over south
    Florida and off to the east towards the Bahamas, this should give
    the likely landfall areas of the Gulf Coast north of Ft. Myers
    through Tampa a general reprieve from heavy rain for most of today.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 09 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    There will be a general lull in the overall general rainfall across
    Florida on Tuesday. The "calm before the storm". The low impacting
    most of the state Monday will be well east of the Bahamas by
    Tuesday, while the rainfall directly associated with Hurricane
    Milton will likely remain off or just arriving at the Gulf Coast
    before 12Z Wednesday. Nevertheless, widespread light to moderate
    rainfall will impact the state Tuesday and Tuesday night. Thus, any
    resultant flooding will be largely due to favorable antecedent
    conditions due to generally widespread saturated soils across the
    Peninsula. Further, continued extremely moist atmospheric
    conditions consistent with the deep tropical air mass with PWATs
    around 2.25 inches will still support locally heavy rainfall with
    any convection that manages to form.

    On the Atlantic side, a convergence zone may remain over the Space
    and Treasure Coasts on Tuesday, which could locally organize any
    convection and result in locally heavier rainfall over these mostly
    urban areas. Meanwhile over the Gold Coast, a local minimum of
    rainfall may develop, but the heavy rain there the past couple days
    as well as some chance of shower and thunderstorm activity may
    cause widely scattered localized flooding. No changes were made to
    the ERO risk areas.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 09 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 10 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR CENTRAL AND
    NORTH FLORIDA AS WELL AS FAR SOUTHEASTERN GEORGIA...

    The main circulation of Hurricane Milton will cross the Florida
    Peninsula on Wednesday. There remains considerable uncertainty as
    to where the center will make landfall, which will of course play a
    huge role as to where the heaviest rainfall amounts will be. See
    the NHC forecast for the latest track. The storm is expected to be
    undergoing increasing shear, beginning extratropical transition,
    growing in size, and ingesting dry air. Thus, there is decent
    agreement that at landfall, the storm will be weakening. This
    should help to reduce the rainfall south of the circulation center
    as dry air ingestion associated with extratropical transition
    should quickly erode the rain-producing storms southwest of the
    center. Very dry air behind a southward moving front will greatly
    cut into rainfall amounts on the northern fringe of the
    circulation. Thus, expect there to be a tight gradient of rainfall
    both on the south and north sides of the circulation, but for
    different reasons. The ERO risk areas have been expanded in both
    directions due to track and storm size uncertainties, especially
    towards the north, with the Moderate Risk expanded into far
    southeastern Georgia, and the surrounding Slight and Marginal
    expanded into the Low Country of coastal southern South Carolina.
    This may be optimistic, but these expansions were made primarily
    due to uncertainties, and will likely be refined in the coming
    days.

    For the moment, there are several reasons a High Risk was not
    considered in no particular order: 1) The storm will be weakening
    prior to landfall which may temper rainfall amounts a little bit,
    2) Milton's small size should reduce the areal coverage of the
    heaviest rain, 3) The primary rain footprint of Milton over north
    Florida will largely miss where the hardest hit areas of the PRE in
    south Florida are. Of course there is some overlap, but not nearly
    as much as with Helene, 4) The core of the heaviest rain at the
    moment is expected to track from north of Tampa northeast through
    around Jacksonville. This area has been relatively dry in recent
    days compared to areas further south, 5) Milton will be moving
    quickly and accelerating. This will reduce the time the heaviest
    rain has along and north of the track to result in widespread and
    numerous flash floods, 6) The inclusion of CAMs and higher
    certainty with the track may help to narrow down where a potential
    High Risk may be needed with future forecasts. For now with Day 3
    being outside the CAMs time range, the large Moderate will
    suffice.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Thursday, October 03, 2024 09:27:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 030828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    428 AM EDT Thu Oct 3 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    The latest guidance continues to have heavier QPF over the
    Southeast Louisiana Parishes with areal averages of 2 to 3 inches
    for areas along and south of I-10 from near New Orleans through
    Biloxi towards Mobile, with some of the CAMs as much as 3 to 5
    inches near the coastline. Spread persists in the placement of the
    local maxima with the highest potential likely over either St.
    Bernard or Plaquemines Parishes, both areas that are very difficult
    to flood due to the swampy land structures and sandier soils that
    limit flash flood potential.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    During this period there will be broad cyclonic over the Western
    Gulf along with deep tropical air that advects into the flow. This
    will result in convection that breaks out across the Gulf and
    creeps inland into South Texas. A majority of the guidance
    maintainsthe highest QPF offshore however there could be 0.75 to
    1.5 inches that occurs in South Texas that should provide
    beneficial moisture to the area rather than pose as an threat for
    local flooding concerns.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, October 04, 2024 09:42:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 040733
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    333 AM EDT Fri Oct 4 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR SOUTHWEST
    FLORIDA AND THE LOWER KEYS...

    A tropical wave or weak and slow-moving disturbance over the Gulf
    will drift east into the Florida Peninsula Sunday. Multiple inches
    of rain are expected through the day from Tampa south into the
    Keys. The heaviest rain is expected Sunday afternoon and evening,
    where added instability from diurnal heating will locally increase
    rainfall rates. The slow-moving nature of any storms will be the
    greatest contributor to flash flooding. FFGs have recovered since
    Helene last week, so despite the forecast of 2-4 inches of rain
    broadly over the Florida Gulf coast, only isolated flash flooding
    is expected at this point.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, October 05, 2024 07:43:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 050745
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    345 AM EDT Sat Oct 5 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024 - 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR COASTAL DEEP
    SOUTH TEXAS...

    ...Deep South Texas...

    Easterly flow to the north of a developing but weak low over the
    western Gulf that is the focus for widely scattered thunderstorm
    activity over the Gulf is forcing storms to move inland from the
    Gulf over Padre and South Padre Islands this morning. A cold front
    will push south across Deep South Texas today, which will push the
    tropical moisture south into Mexico, so the threat for flash
    flooding is confined to the immediate coast down to Brownsville for
    the day today. The flood threat should abate by tonight.

    ...South Florida...

    The urban corridor of southeast Florida, including Miami may see
    occasional heavy rain from westward-moving thunderstorms this
    afternoon and evening. The storms should continue moving and weaken
    as they move inland, so the threat while non-zero, should remain
    under Marginal Risk levels. Better agreement in the CAMs may
    necessitate a Marginal Risk issuance for this area with the midday
    update.

    Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Oct 06 2024 - 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    A trough developing ahead of a slowly developing tropical low over
    the Gulf will form over the southern Florida Peninsula on Sunday.
    The air mass the trough will be developing in will be incredibly moisture-rich...with PWATs anywhere from 2.2 to 2.6 inches. This
    will be close to the climatological maximum for this time of
    year...between the 95th and 99th percentile and more than 3 sigma
    above normal. The predominant mid-level wind flow will switch from northeasterly to southwesterly during the period, resulting in
    chaotic storm motions. The heaviest rainfall totals will be along
    both coasts, from Tampa south through Cape Coral on the Gulf Coast
    as well as from the Treasure Coast south through Miami on the
    Atlantic side. This bimodal distribution of QPF suggests
    organization will be somewhat lacking, depending more on mesoscale
    phenomena such as sea breezes or differential heating between the
    urban areas and their surroundings.

    This will likely be the first day of several where heavy rain will
    be common and widespread across the Florida Peninsula. In the
    increasingly likely event a tropical cyclone eventually develops in
    the Gulf and moves towards the Florida Peninsula mid to late week,
    this will be the first day of the predecessor rain event, or PRE.

    Given high FFGs areally and this being the first day of the PRE, a
    Marginal Risk was left intact for this area, but further increases
    in forecast rainfall may require a Slight Risk for some of the
    urban areas with future updates.

    Wegman


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Oct 07 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 08 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE
    FLORIDA PENINSULA...

    Conditions across the Florida Peninsula will continue to
    deteriorate on Monday. The PRE is expected to continue to
    intensify, making for a second full day of periodic heavy rainfall
    across the Peninsula. Both overall rainfall amounts and coverage
    north up the Peninsula will increase on Monday as compared with
    Sunday. All but the fastest guidance suggest that should a tropical
    cyclone form over the Gulf, it will remain well west of the Florida
    Peninsula through Monday night. This means the PRE will remain in
    full force across the Peninsula. Once again, there will be a
    bimodal distribution of the precipitation...but much more
    pronounced. The focus will remain along both coasts, albeit heavier
    and spread north. Given the expected heavy rainfall from Day
    2/Sunday, by Monday most soils should be at or near saturation.
    This means most of the day's rains will convert to runoff in most
    areas.

    With heavier rainfall expected in the urban areas along both
    coasts, a Slight Risk upgrade was introduced with this update, in
    coordination with MFL/Miami, FL; TBW/Tampa, FL; and MLB/Melbourne,
    FL forecast offices. With better definition as to how and where any
    tropical cyclone may develop over the Gulf, this will improve the
    forecast for the PRE on Monday. This will apply both to where the
    heaviest rain may occur as well as how heavy the amounts will be.
    Further, with the hindsight of where Sunday's rainfall will occur,
    it's possible additional upgrades may be needed with future
    forecasts...though a preponderance of the guidance suggests any
    direct effects of a potential tropical cyclone will hold until
    after this period. Depending on how the heaviest rain areas align
    on Monday with Sunday, some areas may be approaching 2 day totals
    of 10 inches of rain by Tuesday morning. These amounts of rain in
    any urban areas could approach Moderate Risk level impacts.

    Wegman
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, September 22, 2024 08:37:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 220834
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    434 AM EDT Sun Sep 22 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 22 2024 - 12Z Mon Sep 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY TO THE SOUTHERN HIGH PLAINS...

    The focus for areas of heavy rainfall will continue to be within a
    plume of deeper moisture ahead of a large-scale upper trough making
    its way out over the plains towards the Mid-Mississippi Valley. The
    airmass already in place had precipitable water values generally
    at or above 1,75 inches...from the western portion of Texas
    northeastward to where it encounters a cold front moving in from
    the northern United States. Latest model runs still support two
    areas of more concentrated rainfall warranting a Slight Risk area--
    namely over western Texas and from southern Missouri into southern
    Illinois. The southern area should be more driven by diurnal
    instability strong enough to support spotty 2 or 3 inch rainfall
    amounts and rainfall rates topping an inch per hour. The area
    farther east will have the added advantage of a surface front to
    help focus moisture convergence but the upper support is not
    expected to be as strong as it was on Saturday. For that
    reason...confidence in occurrence is somewhat diminished. Made a
    small southward adjustment to the Slight Risk area based on latest
    guidance and a trimmed a bit of the northern periphery of the
    Marginal given the placement of the cold front.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 23 2024 - 12Z Tue Sep 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID MISSISSIPPI VALLEY...

    Surface low pressure begins to develop on Monday as shortwave
    energy moving through the southern stream trough...leading to
    renewed showers and thunderstorms in the Mid-Mississippi Valley
    early in the day that shifts into the Ohio Valley by late Monday
    night/early Tuesday morning. The best overlap of ingredients and
    forcing looks appears to be from the afternoon into the early
    evening across portions of southeast Missouri into parts of
    southern Illinois. After that...low level flow should take on an
    increasing component parallel to the front. Between the weakening
    magnitude of moisture flux convergence at the front and the loss of
    daytime heating/destabilization...rainfall rates should be waning.
    There are a few ensemble members which generate over an inch of
    rain over the Ohio Valley as upper flow backs in response to energy
    in the northern stream...but the expectation is that the flash
    flooding risk is minimal with those rainfall rates and dry
    antecedent conditions.

    Bann


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 24 2024 - 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE Eastern OHIO VALLEY AND ACROSS CENTRAL OF WESTERN TEXAS...

    Ohio Valley...
    As energy in the southern stream interacts with digging energy in
    the northern stream late on Day2...the flow begins to back and
    become diffluent leading to increasing coverage of rainfall by the
    time Day 3 begins. The flow should continue to become increasingly
    diffluent aloft with precipitable water values now about 1.75
    inches in place. Spaghetti plots of QPF from the ensembles show
    minimal support for amounts greater than 2 inches...and most of
    that support is from just a few GEFS members. With antecedent
    conditions being so dry...it is presumed that only isolated
    instances will occur that run off problems occur.

    Texas
    Light southeasterly on-shore flow across far southern Texas will
    start to draw moisture northward again on Tuesday afternoon. As it
    does so..a weakening cold front will help provide some focus for
    showers and a few thunderstorms in central or western Texas. The
    NAM and ECMWF were the only two operational runs from the 22/00Z
    model suite to generate 2+ inch amounts of QPF while the GFS had
    support from the GEFS favoring a weaker/drier solution. Given the uncertainty...opted to maintain a Marginal risk for this cycle.

    Bann
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, September 23, 2024 08:57:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 230815
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    415 AM EDT Mon Sep 23 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 23 2024 - 12Z Tue Sep 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-MISSISSIPPI VALLEY EASTWARD TO THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...

    Precipitation over the southern Plains will continue to spread
    north ahead of a positively-tilted upper shortwave trough drifting
    east through the central Plains. Deepening moisture (PWs ~1.75-2
    inches) supported by southwesterly inflow, and large-scale ascent
    generated by the upper shortwave, are expected to produce a broad
    area of precipitation spreading northeast early in the period from
    the Ozarks through the lower Missouri and mid Mississippi valleys.
    There is the potential for a stripe of locally heavy amounts, with
    the 00Z HREF showing high neighborhood probabilities for
    accumulations of 3 inches or more from central Missouri eastward
    through the St. Louis metro. However, limited instability should
    help to keep rainfall rates in check through the morning hours. A
    better chance for heavy rainfall rates may develop later in the day
    as trailing energy and daytime heating contribute to storms
    redeveloping near the Ozarks and tracking northeast through the mid
    Mississippi Valley and into the lower Ohio Valley later this
    afternoon into the evening.

    Moisture spreading further east is expected to fuel showers and
    storms developing later today across the central and southern
    Appalachians. Some of the hi-res guidance continue to show some
    potential for isolated heavy amounts across the region, with the
    greatest threat centered over western North Carolina, where the
    HREF is showing high neighborhood probabilities for accumulations
    of 2 inches or more.

    Pereira


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 24 2024 - 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024

    ..THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO VALLEY AND THE CENTRAL TO SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...

    The shortwave trough moving across the mid Mississippi Valley on
    Day 1 will begin to interact with a northern stream trough
    amplifying over the northern Plains early in the period. Models
    show the upper pattern quickly amplifying over the Mississippi
    Valley on Tuesday. At the surface, low pressure is expected to
    track northeast from the mid Mississippi Valley to the Great Lakes,
    with a trailing cold front extending back through the Ohio Valley.
    An axis of deeper moisture (PWs ~1.50-1.75 inches) coinciding with
    deep southeasterly flow ahead of the upper trough will fuel
    showers and storms along the low track and ahead of the trailing
    cold front. Models do not present a signal for widespread heavy
    amounts but show the potential for locally heavy amounts,
    including for portions of the central to southern Appalachians,
    where relative soil moisture is slightly higher and flash flood
    guidance values lower.

    Pereira


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024 - 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST, TENNESSEE VALLEY, AND THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...

    Although disagreements on the track continue, the consensus of the
    models show a powerful tropical cyclone tracking north through the
    eastern Gulf of Mexico during this period. Apart from the faster
    Canadian solutions, which bring heavy amounts into the Florida
    Panhandle, most of the deterministic models and their ensemble
    means show moderate to heavy rains brushing the coast, but the
    heaviest amounts remaining out over the open waters through 12Z
    Thu. Therefore, just a Marginal was maintained from South Florida
    and the Keys northward along the Florida Gulf Coast through the
    Panhandle. However, should more guidance begin to trend toward a
    faster solution, future upgrades may be necessary.

    Despite their disagreements with the cyclone track, the models are
    presenting a growing signal for heavy amounts developing well to
    the north. The cold front pushing east into the Ohio, Tennessee,
    and lower Mississippi Valley prior to the period is forecast to
    slow across the region, providing a focus for moisture ushered in
    by strong southeasterly to easterly flow ahead of the system. With
    some longitudinal disagreement, the GFS and ECMWF show PWs
    increasing to 1.75-2 inches along an axis of strong low level
    convergence extending north from the northern Gulf Coast into the
    Tennessee Valley. Meanwhile, an upper low that will begin to
    develop over the mid Mississippi Valley on Wednesday is expected to
    drop south, enhancing lift across the region. While there is some
    west-east disagreement on its placement, most of the 00Z
    deterministic runs showed a stripe of 2-4 inch accumulations
    extending northeastward from northern Alabama into the southern
    Appalachians.

    Pereira
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, September 24, 2024 08:20:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 240826
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    426 AM EDT Tue Sep 24 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Sep 24 2024 - 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE OHIO/Tennessee VALLEYS AND ADJACENT PORTIONS OF THE MID-ATLANTIC ...

    One area of showers and thunderstorms that produced spotty moderate
    to heavy rainfall overnight along a quasi-stationary front
    overnight should be weakening as it reaches portions of the Mid-
    Atlantic region by morning. However...shortwave energy in the
    northern stream will be developing a closed low that deepens with
    time as it tracks from the Upper Midwest into the Mid-Mississippi
    Valley later tonight. This backs the flow aloft and supports some
    convection with locally heavy rainfall rates in a diffluent flow
    regime over the eastern Ohio Valley as well as thunderstorms ahead
    of the low track and ahead of a trailing cold front. Model guidance
    continues to show the potential for locally heavy amounts while not
    presenting a signal for widespread heavy rainfall
    totals...including portions of the central and southern
    Appalachians where relative soil moisture is slightly higher and
    where flash flood guidance was lower.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024 - 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES AND EASTERN TENNESSEE VALLEY...

    Only minor adjustments were needed to the previously issued Slight
    risk area from portions of Alabama and Georgia into southeast
    Tennessee...while a targeted Slight Risk area was introduced along
    the coastline of the Florida panhandle. It appears that a
    predecessor rainfall event will take shape somewhere in the
    Southeast US as moisture streams northward from the Gulf of Mexico
    ahead of Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine and interacts with a cold
    front dropping southward from the Tennessee Valley. There is still
    some disagreement among the various models with respect to where
    the axis may set up but the area covered by the Slight risk has the
    best overlap of different solutions so only minor adjustments were
    needed to what is effectively a high-end Slight Risk area. Along
    the coast...model QPF has increased along portions of the Florida
    coastline to the point where a Slight seems warranted.

    Bann


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024 - 12Z Fri Sep 27 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES AT POTENTIAL TROPICAL CYCLONE NINE
    MOVES INLAND...

    There should be an increasing threat of widespread and potentially
    significant rainfall as Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine approaches
    the coast and eventually makes landfall sometime around 27/00Z
    based on the latest guidance from the National Hurricane Center.
    Moderate to heavy rainfall may develop across portions of Florida
    panhandle into the Southeast US well before PTC Nine make landfall
    as strong transport of Gulf moisture interacts with deepening mid-
    and upper-layer closed low over the central/southern Mississippi
    Valley. Primary changes were to extend the Moderate risk area
    northward along the NHC path of PTC Nine where the guidance had
    shown an increase in rainfall amounts...with the Moderate risk now
    into the southern Appalachians where terrain effects look to result
    in locally enhanced rainfall amounts.

    With an unusually deep low best seen in the mid- and upper-levels
    located to the west...at least some of the moisture being drawn
    inland by Nine will begin to get drawn westward over portions of
    the Tennessee Valley and into the Mississippi Valley. As a
    result...part of the Slight risk area from the Southeast US gets
    pulled westward into the Tennessee Valley around the mid- and
    upper-level low. Given the model spread and the poor run to run consistency...refrained from taking the Slight risk area too far
    westward at this point.

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, September 24, 2024 12:43:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 241659
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1259 PM EDT Tue Sep 24 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Tue Sep 24 2024 - 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF THE VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA PIEDMONT NEAR THE STATE LINE...

    ...16Z Update...

    ...VA/NC border...

    In coordination with RNK/Blacksburg, VA; RAH/Raleigh, NC; and
    AKQ/Wakefield, VA forecast offices, a Slight Risk area was
    introduced with this update along the VA/NC border in the Piedmont
    area. Tonight, much of the guidance, including the 12Z HRRR, HREF,
    and both ARWs are suggesting an area of training convection will
    develop. The heavy rain will be forced by a stationary surface
    trough over the area combined with a local maximum of atmospheric
    moisture with PWATs over 1.75 inches. A strong and deep upper level
    trough over the Mississippi Valley will greatly increase the upper
    level divergence to its east. This too will greatly add lifting
    support to the storms as they form with the convective maximum
    after sunset this evening. HREF probabilities are up to 30% of
    exceeding FFGs in the western part of the Slight risk area, as well
    as over 80% of exceeding 3 inches of rain in the neighborhood
    probabilities and almost 50% of exceeding 5 inches through
    tonight.

    The factors working against heavy rain and flash flooding are some
    antecedent dry conditions, with at least average soil moisture
    across this area, and marginal instability generally around 500 to
    1,000 J/kg. The instability will limit to some extent the
    widespread coverage of the heavy rain, but the excellent forcing
    may be able to make up for that. Portions of the Slight Risk area
    saw heavy rainfall last week, which at least has kept those area
    from having totally dry soils...but average soil moisture can
    sometimes work against flash flooding as some clays can be
    hydrophobic when they're really dry, resulting in extra runoff.
    Such is not expected to be the case here.

    ...Midwest...

    Elsewhere across the Upper Ohio and Tennessee Valleys expect
    continued off and on showers and storms, but general struggles with organization. Very dry soils north of the Ohio River should also
    generally limit the flooding threat...whereas along the west facing
    slopes of the Appalachians, localized upslope may enhance it a bit.
    Regardless any flash flooding in these areas should be confined to
    urban and flood-prone locations.

    Wegman

    ...Previous Discussion...

    One area of showers and thunderstorms that produced spotty moderate
    to heavy rainfall overnight along a quasi-stationary front
    overnight should be weakening as it reaches portions of the Mid-
    Atlantic region by morning. However...shortwave energy in the
    northern stream will be developing a closed low that deepens with
    time as it tracks from the Upper Midwest into the Mid-Mississippi
    Valley later tonight. This backs the flow aloft and supports some
    convection with locally heavy rainfall rates in a diffluent flow
    regime over the eastern Ohio Valley as well as thunderstorms ahead
    of the low track and ahead of a trailing cold front. Model guidance
    continues to show the potential for locally heavy amounts while not
    presenting a signal for widespread heavy rainfall
    totals...including portions of the central and southern
    Appalachians where relative soil moisture is slightly higher and
    where flash flood guidance was lower.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024 - 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES AND EASTERN TENNESSEE VALLEY...

    Only minor adjustments were needed to the previously issued Slight
    risk area from portions of Alabama and Georgia into southeast
    Tennessee...while a targeted Slight Risk area was introduced along
    the coastline of the Florida panhandle. It appears that a
    predecessor rainfall event will take shape somewhere in the
    Southeast US as moisture streams northward from the Gulf of Mexico
    ahead of Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine and interacts with a cold
    front dropping southward from the Tennessee Valley. There is still
    some disagreement among the various models with respect to where
    the axis may set up but the area covered by the Slight risk has the
    best overlap of different solutions so only minor adjustments were
    needed to what is effectively a high-end Slight Risk area. Along
    the coast...model QPF has increased along portions of the Florida
    coastline to the point where a Slight seems warranted.

    Bann

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024 - 12Z Fri Sep 27 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES AT POTENTIAL TROPICAL CYCLONE NINE
    MOVES INLAND...

    There should be an increasing threat of widespread and potentially
    significant rainfall as Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine approaches
    the coast and eventually makes landfall sometime around 27/00Z
    based on the latest guidance from the National Hurricane Center.
    Moderate to heavy rainfall may develop across portions of Florida
    panhandle into the Southeast US well before PTC Nine make landfall
    as strong transport of Gulf moisture interacts with deepening mid-
    and upper-layer closed low over the central/southern Mississippi
    Valley. Primary changes were to extend the Moderate risk area
    northward along the NHC path of PTC Nine where the guidance had
    shown an increase in rainfall amounts...with the Moderate risk now
    into the southern Appalachians where terrain effects look to result
    in locally enhanced rainfall amounts.

    With an unusually deep low best seen in the mid- and upper-levels
    located to the west...at least some of the moisture being drawn
    inland by Nine will begin to get drawn westward over portions of
    the Tennessee Valley and into the Mississippi Valley. As a
    result...part of the Slight risk area from the Southeast US gets
    pulled westward into the Tennessee Valley around the mid- and
    upper-level low. Given the model spread and the poor run to run consistency...refrained from taking the Slight risk area too far
    westward at this point.

    Bann
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, September 25, 2024 09:31:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 250903
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    503 AM EDT Wed Sep 25 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Sep 25 2024 - 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF THE SOUTHEAST UNITED STATES...

    Even though Helene should still be well off-shore during the
    period...abundant moisture should be streaming northward ahead of
    the storm. The models have been increasingly aggressive with
    rainfall amounts coming off the Gulf into the Florida panhandle
    with locally excessive amounts of rainfall along the coastline. Of
    greater concern is the moisture that continues to stream northward
    into portions of northern Georgia and upstate South Carolina where
    a surface cold front acts to focus a predecessor rainfall event.
    Some pieces of guidance...including the HAFS A and B parent grids
    ...drop 5 or 6 inches or rainfall within a broader area of 2 to 4
    inches of rainfall. The overall agreement on placement of the axis
    is really very good with only subtle east/west variations...which
    necessitated an expansion of the moderate risk area and now
    includes some of the complex terrain of the southern Appalachians.
    Slight and Marginal risk areas surrounding covered the risk of
    convection forming along broad synoptic scale flow getting drawn
    into the environment ahead of Helene.

    Bann


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Sep 26 2024 - 12Z Fri Sep 27 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL IN PORTIONS OF THE
    SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...

    Given the increasing confidence about the overlap of the axis of
    a predecessor rainfall event on Day 1 period and the amount of
    rainfall expected as the center of Helene approaches the southern
    Appalachians during the latter part of the Day 2 period...there has
    been a growing number of models generating close to 10 or 11
    inches of rainfall for the 2-days combined in the complex terrain.
    That raises concerns about impactful flooding becoming widespread
    with considerable and potentially life-threatening flash and urban
    flooding as well as areas of significant river flooding over
    portions of Florida, the Southeast U.S. and the southern
    Appalachians. Widespread minor to moderate river flooding is likely
    and major river flooding is possible. Landslides are possible in
    areas of steep terrain in the southern Appalachians given these
    rainfall amounts. This prompted the upgrade to a high risk over
    portions of northwestern Georgia into far western South Carolina
    that was mainly confined to the terrain. What effectively amounts
    to a high-end moderate risk surrounds the high that extends along
    much of the track as Helene makes landfall along the Florida
    panhandle coastline around 27/00Z (give or take a couple of hours)
    based on the latest NHC guidance. In terms of model guidance...the
    tracks tended to be clustered well resulting in NHC guidance being
    close to most model runs. For the Day 2 period...that resulted in
    the highest rainfall totals being close to each other where the
    orographic forcing was consistent. A second axis of excessive
    rainfall branched off to the northwest from Helene's track towards
    a deep-layered low developing over the southern portion of the
    Mississippi Valley as moisture gets entrained into that system
    leading to scattered convection that could produce locally heavy
    amounts. Mainly confined the Slight risk to the Tennessee Valley
    and only a Marginal risk extending back towards the core of the
    upper system.

    Bann


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Sep 27 2024 - 12Z Sat Sep 28 2024

    ...INTRODUCED A MODERATE RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER A PORTION
    OF THE UPSLOPE REGION INTO THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...

    Based on latest NHC track guidance...Helene should be in northern
    Georgia and tracking on a more northwestward course during the day.
    This suggests the flow of deep moisture should be on-going to the
    terrain of western Carolinas into southwest Virginia. Latest model
    guidance shows several inches of rainfall in addition to what falls
    in the predecessor 48 hours...felt a focused Moderate risk placed
    where there was best model consensus was warranted. It was also a
    multi-day rainfall total farther south along the NHC track in the
    eastern Tennessee Valley that was the main reason to keep a Slight
    Risk where model QPF be a little too light to support one. That
    portion of the Slight Risk area extends westward to the deep-
    layered low where steepening low level lapse rate and the
    additional moisture streaming off of Helene could lead to some
    showers and thunderstorms capable of producing locally heavy
    downpours.


    Bann
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, September 28, 2024 08:59:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 280758
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    358 AM EDT Sat Sep 28 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sat Sep 28 2024 - 12Z Sun Sep 29 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR MUCH OF THE
    OHIO AND TENNESSEE VALLEYS AS WELL AS FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA...

    ...Ohio/Tennessee Valleys...

    The combined upper low and remnant circulation of what is left of
    Helene is expected to slow/stall over the Ohio and Tennessee
    Valleys. With very little if any instability to work with the bulk
    of rain today will likely be stratiform with hourly rates around
    0.5 inch/hour or lower. At best there may be some isolated flash
    flooding, therefore maintained the broad Marginal Risk that is in
    place over the region.

    ...Florida...

    A trailing cold front across the Florida peninsula will be present
    during this period along with abundant instability and moisture
    within proximity to this feature. The development of strong
    thunderstorms can be expected, especially on the western side of
    the peninsula. Recent heavy rain has increased soil sensitivity for
    much of the area therefore maintained a Marginal Risk for excessive
    rainfall for the western and central peninsula.

    Campbell


    Day 2 Valid 12Z Sun Sep 29 2024 - 12Z Mon Sep 30 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC/APPALACHIANS AS WELL AS THE NORTHERN FLORIDA
    PENINSULA...

    ...Mid-Atlantic/Central Appalachians...

    During this period the remnant low of Helene will get picked up by
    the upper level jet and track eastward into the Mid-Atlantic and Central/Northern Appalachians. There will be an increase in
    available instability which may lead to localized enhanced rainfall
    rates for portions of the Shenandoah Valley and west to the
    Allegheny Front in Maryland, West Virginia, and Virginia; which may
    result in isolated to widely scattered instances of flash
    flooding. The level of threat continues to be handled well with the
    Marginal Risk that is currently in effect. There may be a need for
    a Slight Risk with future updates depending on model trends and
    observations.

    ...Florida...

    Convection will continue to fire up in proximity to a stalled
    frontal boundary draped across northern/central Florida. Storm
    motion may be fast-moving with some tracking over areas hard-hit
    by Helene, but because progressive nature of the convection a
    Marginal Risk remains appropriate for this period.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 30 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE MID-ATLANTIC/CENTRAL APPALACHIANS...

    The lingering upper low over the East and accompanying moisture
    from Helene will continue to produce some showers and thunderstorms
    over portions of the Appalachians and Mid-Atlantic into Monday.
    Heavy intensity and accumulations are not expected to be widespread
    or heavy, however the recent wet period keeps an elevated threat
    for excessive rainfall and isolated flooding concerns. A Marginal
    remains in effect from south-central Virginia to central
    Pennsylvania.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, September 29, 2024 09:54:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 290815
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    415 AM EDT Sun Sep 29 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Sun Sep 29 2024 - 12Z Mon Sep 30 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE INTERIOR MID-ATLANTIC...

    ...Mid-Atlantic/Central Appalachians...

    Remnant moisture from Helene will remain caught up in the upper
    trough pattern across the Ohio Valley while the mean trough begins
    to slowly advance eastward through the period. During this period
    precipitable water anomalies will be on the order of 1 to 2
    standard deviations above normal and will encounter increased
    forcing from the upper jet and modest lift through the column over
    much of the Mid-Atlantic. This setup will support the development
    of scattered to numerous thunderstorms that will likely have slower
    storm motions. Recent rains have lowered local FFGs and increased
    sensitivity across the region. Areal average QPF for the region
    will be in the 1 to 3 inch range with isolated maximums in excess
    of 3 inches will be possible. A Slight Risk for excessive rainfall
    is in effect for extreme western Maryland, eastern West Virginia, northern/central/south-central Virginia and north-central North
    Carolina. A Marginal Risk area spans from northeast
    Georgia/northwest South Carolina to southern Pennsylvania and
    southeast Ohio.

    ...Florida...

    An unstable airmass coupled with lingering deep layer moisture
    will promote isolated to widely scattered thunderstorm activity
    capable of localized flooding, especially within urbanized zones.
    Any of these storms will have the capability to produce 2 to 4
    inches, especially along the coastline. A Marginal Risk for
    excessive rainfall is in effect for central portions of the
    peninsula.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 30 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE INTERIOR MID-ATLANTIC...

    High pressure to the north, and a developing surface reflection
    off the Mid-Atlantic coast thanks to the upstream trough will
    create a persistent northeasterly flow setup with greater upslope
    emphasis within the terrain across Western Virginia into the
    far eastern West Virginia. There will be an enhancement of forcing
    through the column of atmosphere near the Appalachian/Blue Ridge
    spine that may result in hourly rainfall rates of 1 to 1.5
    inches/hour during this period. Soils near saturation from recent
    rains will keep the threat for flash flooding elevated for much of
    this region thus maintained a Slight Risk for excessive rainfall
    for extreme south-central Pennsylvania, western Maryland, eastern
    West Virginia and northern/central Virginia. A Marginal Risk area
    spans from northeast Tennessee/northwest North Carolina to southern Pennsylvania.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.


    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, September 30, 2024 09:17:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 300809
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    409 AM EDT Mon Sep 30 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Sep 30 2024 - 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    EASTERN WEST VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA AND NORTHERN NORTH CAROLINA...

    The latest guidance continues to show the south/southeast trend of
    where the heaviest rain is expected to occur Monday across the
    Virginias. During this time the slow moving upper low will be transferring
    its energy to a coastal low feature located offshore Virginia and
    North Carolina. This will likely lead to a prolonged local
    enhancement in hourly rainfall rates near the Blue Ridge of 1 to
    1.5 inches/hour during this period. Soils near saturation from
    recent rains will keep the threat for flash flooding elevated for
    much of this region. A Slight Risk for excessive rainfall remains
    in effect for extreme eastern West Virginia, northern/central
    Virginia, and north-central North Carolina. The Marginal Risk was
    extended to cover much of coastal North Carolina in association
    with the developing coastal low potentially locally increasing
    rainfall totals due to slow- moving convection especially on the
    western side of Pamlico Sound.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, October 01, 2024 09:29:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 011241
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    841 AM EDT Tue Oct 1 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Oct 01 2024 - 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR SOUTHEAST
    Virginia INTO NORTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA AS WELL AS FOR CENTRAL FLORIDA...

    ...Virginia/North Carolina...

    During this period an area of low pressure will slide off the
    Virginia and North Carolina coast while periods of heavy rainfall
    persists from Richmond south and east through Hampton Roads and
    portions of far northeastern North Carolina and the northern Outer
    Banks. A majority of the rain is expected through about mid-
    afternoon. Rain amounts and coverage with decrease as the low moves
    further offshore. The inherited Marginal Risk was maintained albeit
    with minor adjustments to reflect the latest model guidance and
    WPC forecast.

    ...Central Florida...

    A disturbance moving along the stationary front over central
    Florida may support more widespread shower and thunderstorm
    activity from Tampa through Orlando to the Space Coast Tuesday
    afternoon. Training of the convection and impacts with the urban
    centers may result in isolated flash flooding. The inherited Marginal
    Risk was maintained with a minor southward expansion.

    Campbell/Wegman


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    There will be a lingering potential for convection near the
    eastern coastline that could result in bursts of modest or very
    local heavy rainfall intensities. The threat for excessive rainfall
    and flooding concerns will remain below the 5 percent threshold for
    this period.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    There is a non zero possibility for locally modest to heavy
    rainfall to move northward from the Gulf of Mexico along the Gulf
    Coast anywhere from the Mississippi River delta to west of the
    Florida bend. There is a fair amount of model spread that further
    serves to decrease confidence on where any of these storms may
    occur. At this time a trends suggest that the bulk of the heaviest
    rainfall will remain south of the coastline.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, October 02, 2024 08:09:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 020757
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    357 AM EDT Wed Oct 2 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Oct 02 2024 - 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    There will be a lingering potential for convection near the
    eastern coastline that could result in bursts of modest or very
    local heavy rainfall intensities. The threat for excessive rainfall
    and flooding concerns will remain below the 5 percent threshold for
    this period.

    Campbell/Hamrick


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Oct 03 2024 - 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    For a few days now there has been a signal for moderate to possibly locally heavy rainfall to move northward from the Gulf of Mexico into far
    southeast portions of Louisiana and up near the Mississippi River
    delta. This is associated with moisture convergence along a quasi-
    stationary frontal boundary over the northern Gulf of Mexico. There
    have been a fair amount of spread on where and how much will occur
    and that has not resolved much for this round of guidance. In
    general consensus keeps the highest QPF over the Gulf while a
    couple of solutions suggest 2-3+ inches may reach the coastal water
    and the wetlands. In coordination with the local forecast office
    in New Orleans the forecast QPF will likely not lead to any impacts
    of significance for the wetland areas of southeast Louisiana
    especially given their recent drier stretch. The Marginal Risk area
    was removed for this period.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Oct 04 2024 - 12Z Sat Oct 05 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    As mentioned during the Day 2 period there has been a multi-day
    pattern where the convection is just offshore the Gulf Coast but
    within the convection there could be a few inches of isolated heavy
    rainfall. The spread for this period favors a placement more over
    the Gulf than the Gulf Coastline. There is a non zero potential for
    localized moderate, possibly heavy rainfall intensities however
    nothing that is expected to become problematic at this time.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, November 15, 2024 08:58:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 150755
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    255 AM EST Fri Nov 15 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 15 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    The probability of rainfall exceeding flash flood guidance is less
    than 5 percent.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    An upper trough traversing through the West this weekend is
    expected to split which will send energy in the Northern
    Plains/Upper Midwest along with a strong southern stream cutoff low
    into the Four Corner that will exit into the Central/Southern
    Plains for the start of the week. A surface low pressure system
    will forecast to spin up in the lee of the Rockies and deepen as it
    tracks from the Plains through the Midwest. Scattered to widespread
    moderate to heavy rainfall will be supported by this setup across
    portions of the Southern Rockies and the adjacent Southern/Central
    Plains.

    Guidance is suggesting 1 to 2 inches of rain for central and
    eastern portions of New Mexico, particularly over some of the same
    areas that had several inches of snow last week. With rain on top
    of snow expected some locations will have an increased risk for
    flooding concerns. The Marginal Risk area that was already in
    effect was expanded westward to now cover central and eastern
    portions of New Mexico. The highest concentration of rainfall will
    likely focus across parts of northern Texas/panhandle into western
    Oklahoma. Consensus suggests areal average of 3 to 4.5 inches with
    locally higher amounts possible. Therefore, a Slight Risk was
    introduced with this issuance.

    Campbell

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Saturday, November 16, 2024 12:24:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 161558
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1058 AM EST Sat Nov 16 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sat Nov 16 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR THE COASTAL
    RANGES OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST...

    Conventional GOES satellite imagery along with ALPW data shows an
    offshore atmospheric river beginning to gradually impinge on the
    Pacific Northwest. An offshore warm front will gradually begin to
    overspread the region by this evening which will coincide with
    strong warm air advection and moisture transport. The latest 12Z
    HREF guidance suggests a 40 to 50+ kt low-level jet arriving with
    an orientation gradually becoming more orthognal to the coastal
    terrain of western WA including the Olympic Peninsula and extending
    southward down into northwest OR. A cold front will then begin to
    approach and gradually cross western WA by 12Z/Sunday. This
    atmospheric river event will be progressive, but there will be a
    corridor of IVT values locally exceeding 500 kg/m/s tonight across
    these coastal ranges based off the 06Z GFS which seems reasonable
    considering the elevated CIRA-LVT parameters offshore. Some
    rainfall rates associated with the combination of strong warm air
    advection and orographic forcing should reach into the 0.25" to
    0.50"/hour range between 00Z and 12Z, and this will help facilitate
    some rainfall totals of 2 to 3 inches by 12Z for the windward
    slopes of the coastal ranges. Given the expected rates and totals
    by early Sunday morning, and thus earlier arrival of this event, a
    Marginal Risk of excessive rainfall has introduced for this period.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    and be accompanied with very impressive IVT, PWs and forcing as it
    moves across Texas and Oklahoma by Sunday evening into the
    overnight hours. This should be enough to overcome the limited
    forecast instability and result in deep convection and heavy
    rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and the
    adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain, but would expect isolated swaths as high as 4-6"
    within this setup. The overall progressive nature of the system and
    limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals...but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw a minor expansion to reflect the latest trends
    and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to western
    Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained with minor adjustments for this
    issuance.

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi.

    Campbell
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:24:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 171556
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    1056 AM EST Sun Nov 17 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 16Z Sun Nov 17 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHERN PLAINS...

    1600Z Update...

    The 12Z HREF guidance along with 06Z RRFS/REFS output continues to
    support a locally heavy rainfall event across areas of the southern
    Plains by this evening and extending into the overnight period. There
    has been some shift farther west with some of the swaths of heavy
    rainfall potential across west TX as some of the individual CAMs
    are supporting the heavier rainfall/convection along the immediate
    cold front and in close proximity to the deepening surface low
    that will be evolving across the TX High Plains tonight. However, a complication to the rainfall forecast is the downstream evolution
    of convection along the front ahead of the surface low involving
    areas of northwest TX through southwest to central OK. This is
    where strong moisture convergence and forcing may foster a threat
    for some training areas of convection that become aligned in a
    southwest to northeast fashion. Overall, still expecting some
    swaths of 2 to 4 inch rainfall totals, with isolated potential for
    heavier amounts and especially across northwest TX into southwest
    OK where the better convective training threat will exist. Given
    the latest CAM guidance, the Slight Risk area has been expanded
    somewhat to account for the varying modes of convective evolution
    that are expected this evening and overnight.

    Elsewhere, no changes have been made to the previous D1 outlook
    including the Marginal Risk area across western OR where there
    continues to be some lingering, but modest atmospheric river
    activity.

    Orrison

    Previous Discussion...

    ...Southern Plains...

    A southern stream cutoff low is expected to eject into the Plains
    today with very impressive IVT and accompanying anomalous PWs and
    forcing as it moves across Texas and Oklahoma by this evening into
    the overnight hours. This looks to be enough to overcome the
    limited forecast instability and result in deep convection and
    heavy rainfall rates across portions of the Southern Rockies and
    the adjacent Southern/Central Plains. Guidance continues to suggest
    2-4" of rain (per latest HREF and WPC QPF), but would expect
    isolated swaths as high as 4-6" within this setup (indicated by
    some of the heaviest CAMs). The overall progressive nature of the
    system and limited instability will cap the upper bound of rainfall
    totals, but this system is dynamic enough with plentiful moisture
    to suggest at least localized flash flooding is likely. A Marginal
    Risk area remains in effect for central/eastern New Mexico,
    northern Texas, most of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. The inherited
    Slight Risk area saw only minor adjustments to reflect the latest
    trends and WPC QPF and spans from northern Texas/panhandle to
    western Oklahoma.

    ...Coastal Oregon and northwest California...

    A fairly progressive, weak/moderate atmospheric river will be
    ongoing across the region. Total rain of 2-4" (through 12z Mon)
    and hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" within a narrow
    southward shifting axis suggest that some minor flooding issues
    could arise along coastal areas/mountains. A Marginal Risk area
    remains in effect along the coastline.

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE ARE MARGINAL RISKS OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE GULF COAST AND THE PLAINS/UPPER MIDWEST...

    ...Central U.S. ...

    The precipitation shield will shift eastward as the cold front
    advances further into the Plains. Moderate to locally heavy
    rainfall is expected from northern Texas to southern Minnesota with
    areal average of 1 to 3 inches. The higher amounts will likely
    concentrate over eastern Kansas, eastern Nebraska and western Iowa.
    A Marginal Risk area was maintained once again with only minor
    adjustments for this issuance (not enough confidence for 2"+ totals
    to introduce a Slight Risk).

    ...Gulf Coast...

    A plume of enhanced tropical moisture will likely advect northward
    through the Gulf of Mexico well in advance of tropical cyclone
    Sara; which will increase the potential for heavy rain and
    localized flooding concerns along portions of the Gulf Coast. A
    Marginal Risk area is in effect from southeast Texas to southern
    Mississippi (changed very little from inherited with 3" localized
    totals possible).

    Churchill/Campbell


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FOR PORTIONS OF
    THE SOUTHEAST AND CENTRAL GULF COAST...

    ...Central Gulf Coast and Southeast...

    By Tuesday significantly more tropical moisture will likely advect
    northward through the Gulf of Mexico in association with the
    remnants of Tropical Storm Sara; which will increase the potential
    for heavy rain and localized flooding concerns along portions of
    the Gulf Coast. An inherited Slight Risk area was maintained for
    southern AL and surrounding portions of FL/GA/MS/LA, given the
    potential for localized 3-5" totals (per ensemble guidance and WPC
    QPF).

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon, and northwest California...

    Another weak/moderate atmospheric river is expected for region for
    Day 3. Total rain of 2-4" (similar to Day 1) are expected with
    hourly rainfall rates possibly approaching 0.5" once again suggest
    that some minor flooding issues could arise along coastal
    areas/mountains. An inherited Marginal Risk area remains in effect
    along the coastline.

    Churchill
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Monday, November 18, 2024 09:33:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 180756
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    256 AM EST Mon Nov 18 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Mon Nov 18 2024 - 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI...


    An axis of much above average tropical PW values expected to be
    drawn rapidly northeastward from the remnants of Sara, across the
    central Gulf of Mexico and into the Central Gulf coast ahead of
    the negatively tilted closed low ejecting northeastward from the
    Southern Plains into the Upper Mississippi Valley day 1. These
    anomalous tropical PW values, 3 to 4+ standard deviations above the
    mean will enhance convection along and ahead of the cold front
    pushing eastward across the Gulf coast, primarily during the second
    half of day 1 from southeast Louisiana into southern Mississippi.
    A slight risk area was maintained where the latest HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are highest for 2 and 3"+ amounts. The
    simulated hi res radars are in good agreement in showing potential
    for a period of training of cells in this anomalous PW axis in the
    0000-1200 UTC Tuesday time period across the slight risk area of
    southeast LA into southern MS. In areas of training, hourly
    rainfall amounts of 1-2"+ possible, resulting in flash flooding,
    especially in the urbanized areas of New Orleans.

    Across the Southern to Central Plains toward the Upper MS Valley...there
    is fairly good agreement on an axis of heavy rain from northern
    OK, across much of KS, eastern NE, northwest MO, southeast SD, much
    of IA, southern MN into southwest WI in a region of strong
    isentropic lift ahead of the deepening surface low moving quickly
    northeastward across these areas. While widespread heavy amounts
    are likely, hourly rates will are mostly depicted as .25-50"+ in
    the latest hi res guidance. This should keep the threat of any
    runoff issues at marginal. The previous marginal risk area was
    trimmed on the eastern end, taking out much of IA, MO and eastern
    OK. The current marginal risk coincides well with the axis of the
    highest HREF 2"+ day 1 probabilities.

    Oravec

    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL FROM SOUTHEAST
    LOUISIANA, ACROSS FAR SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI, FAR SOUTHERN ALABAMA
    INTO THE WESTERN FLORIDA PANHANDLE...

    The convection that is expected to enhance along the Central Gulf
    coast late day 1, will continue into day 2 as the surface front
    continues to push east along the Gulf Coast. The tropical PW
    values entrained ahead of this front day 1, will continue to push
    across central to eastern Gulf coast day 2. Training of cells in a
    southwest to northeasterly direction likely to continue Tuesday
    morning from southeast LA into far southern MS, far southern AL and
    the western FL Panhandle. There is some timing differences as to
    whether heavy rains will continue in the vicinity of New Orleans
    early Tuesday, or have pressed just to the east. The New Orleans
    metro area was kept in the slight risk given potential for an
    overlap of day 1 and day 2 heavy rain areas. The latest HREF 12
    hour neighborhood probabilities ending 00Z Wed show the highest
    probabilities for 2 and 3"+ amounts remaining across far southeast
    LA, far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL Panhandle.
    This was the region depicted in a slight risk for day 2, with the
    previous risk area trimmed on the northern end across south central
    AL after collaboration with WFO MOB. The slight risk area
    corresponds with the hi res consensus for the greatest hourly
    totals of 1-2"+ in regions of training.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Models are in good agreement with the rapid cyclogenesis event
    across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific Northwest coast. The
    low level southerly flow along and ahead of the associated cold
    front will become very anomalous Tuesday night into early
    Wednesday, with 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard
    deviations above the mean impacting the Pac NW/far northwest CA
    coast. A well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland
    across coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC. Hourly
    rainfall rates in the .25-50"+ range possible, especially across
    southwest Oregon into far northwest CA where the strong southerly
    low level flow will have a better upslope component. For areas of
    northwest California into far southwest Oregon, this will be the
    beginning of a multi day Atmospheric River event. No changes made
    to the marginal risk area from the previous issuance.

    Oravec


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS FAR
    Southwest OREGON INTO NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 2 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 3. The
    rapidly deepening day 2 low over the northeast Pacific will anchor
    a nearly stationary upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 3. Strong
    persistent deep layered west southwest flow on the south side of
    this vortex will impact northwest California into far southwest
    Oregon day 3. with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 2-4 standard deviations above the mean.
    There is fairly good model agreement with heavy precip totals of
    3-5" primarily over northwest California, with isolated totals of
    6-8" possible. No significant changes made to the previous slight risk area.

    Oravec

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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Tuesday, November 19, 2024 10:16:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 190828
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    328 AM EST Tue Nov 19 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Tue Nov 19 2024 - 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024

    ...THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    THE CENTRAL GULF COAST AND FOR PORTIONS OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA AND
    SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    ...Central Gulf Coast...

    Latest satellite imagery is showing enhancing convection to the
    south of southeast LA associated with the anomalous tropical
    moisture surge ahead of the cold front moving east across the
    Central Gulf Coast. Trends in the latest hi res guidance suggest
    this offshore enhancing convection will become the heaviest
    frontal/pre-frontal rains as organized convection currently along
    the front farther to the north begin to weaken after 1200 UTC. Hi
    res guidance is in fairly good agreement that the heaviest rains
    with the offshore enhancing convection will remain just to the
    south of far southern MS, far southern AL and the western FL
    Panhandle, but still affecting far southeast LA. HREF neighborhood probabilities show that the axis of the highest probabilities for 2
    and 3"+ amounts will remain offshore with the northern edge of
    these higher probabilities affecting areas from far southeast LA
    and along the immediate far southern MS, far southern AL and
    western FL Panhandle. Changes to the previous outlook were to trim
    the northern extent of the slight risk area by approximately 20 nm
    and to trim the western extent of the slight risk by
    approximately 40nm to account for the hi res trends. At the
    moment, the consensus on timing of convection supports removing the
    New Orleans metro area from the slight risk, with the heaviest
    rains likely to the east and southeast prior to 1200 UTC Tuesday.

    ...Coastal Washington, Oregon and far northwest California...

    Latest models continue to be in good agreement on the rapid
    cyclogenesis event across the northeast Pacific off the Pacific
    Northwest coast, signaling the beginning of a multi day Atmospheric
    River event for northwest CA into far southwest OR. Anomalous low
    level southerly flow expected along and ahead of the associated
    cold front Tuesday night into early Wednesday, with 850-700 mb
    moisture flux anomalies of 3-4 standard deviations above the mean
    impacting the coastal Pac NW, south into far northwest CA coast. A
    well defined area of frontal precip likely to push inland across
    coastal Pac NW/far northwest CA after 0000 UTC Wednesday. The
    strong southerly low level flow will be mostly parallel to the
    terrain along the Pac NW coast, limiting hourly rainfall rates to
    .10-.25"+. Greater hourly rates likely across far southwest Oregon
    into coastal NW CA where a more significant upslope component to
    the low level flow is likely. Hi res guidance is fairly similar in
    showing hourly rates of .25-.50"+ in the 0600 to 1200 UTC Wednesday
    period across far southwest OR into far NW CA. HREF .50"/hr
    probabilities subsequently are high across this area, with 1"/hr
    probabilities much lower and primarily offshore. No changes made to
    the previous slight risk area, which corresponds well to the above
    mentioned axis of high .50"+/hr HREF neighborhood probabilities.

    Oravec


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The multi day atmospheric river event the began late day 1 for far
    southwest Oregon into northwest California will continue day 2,
    primarily across northwest California. The rapidly deepening low
    over the northeast Pacific day 1 will anchor a nearly stationary
    upper vortex off the Pac NW coast day 2. Strong persistent deep
    layered west southwest flow on the south side of this vortex will
    impact northwest California day 2, with IVT values of 500-800
    km/m-1 s-2. and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+
    standard deviations above the mean. There is fairly good model
    agreement with heavy precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest
    California, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. The previous
    moderate risk area was adjusted slightly southward by approximately
    10-40 nm to account for model max axis consensus. Hourly rainfall
    amounts of .25-.50"+ likely through the day 2 time period across
    northwest CA with increasing flooding risks with time as soils
    become saturated and streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for .50"+ totals for the first half of day 2 when
    the data is available, remain high across northwest CA.

    Oravec

    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 221 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The deep northeast Pacific Vortex remains nearly stationary day 3
    off the Pacific Northwest coast, supporting the continuation of the
    multi day Atmospheric River event for northwest CA into far
    southwest OR. Anomalous deep layered southwesterly flow will
    continue on the south side of this vortex. 850 to 700 mb moisture
    flux anomalies will continue to be 2 to 4+ standard deviations
    above the mean with IVT values also maintained in the 500 to 800 km/m-1
    s-2 range across northwest CA into far southwest OR. There is a
    likelihood of very heavy rains again falling day 3 over similar
    regions from the day 2 period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to
    continue at times supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts
    of 3 to 6 inches and isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8"
    across northwest CA into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to
    16+ inches possible across portions of northwest California. Given
    this day 2-3 heavy rain overlap potential, a small high risk area
    was introduced over northwest CA, across the west central portions
    of the EKA's CWA. Flood risks will continue to increase day 3 along
    with rock and land slides as soils become saturated and streams
    and rivers continue to rise and overflow. There will be a
    northward shift back into far southwest Oregon day 3 for the heavy
    rain potential as the upper flow back and heights rise. The rising
    heights will also keep much of the day 3 precip as rain, increasing
    overall runoff.


    Oravec
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Wednesday, November 20, 2024 08:58:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 200809
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    309 AM EST Wed Nov 20 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Wed Nov 20 2024 - 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The latest model guidance remains consistent with the overall
    evolution of the strong multi day atmospheric river event into
    northwest California. The low that deepened rapidly over the
    northeast Pacific Tuesday, will continue to anchor deep layered
    west southwest flow on the south side of this system, impacting
    northwest California day 1 with IVT values of 500-800 km/m-1 s-2.
    and 850-700 mb moisture flux anomalies of 2-4+ standard deviations
    above the mean. There is fairly good model agreement with heavy
    precip totals of 3-5" primarily over northwest California and the
    northern Sierra, with isolated totals of 6-8" possible. HREF
    neighborhood probabilities are very high for 5"+ amounts across
    northern California, with most areas showing 80-90%+, while 8"+
    probabilities are 40-80% along the northwest CA coast and 40-60%+
    over the northern Sierra. Hourly rainfall amounts of .25-.50"+
    likely through the day 1 time period across northwest CA with
    increasing flooding risks with time as soils become saturated and
    streams and river levels rise. The HREF 1 hour probabilities for
    .50"+ totals remain high in the max inflow band across northwest
    CA for all of day 1. This band does continue to sink south for the
    first few hours of day 1, but then become nearly stationary for the
    remainder of the day 1 time period. No significant change to the
    previous outlook. The slight risk was extended approximately 75
    miles farther south in the lee of the northern Sierra where 2-4"
    rainfall totals are possible.

    Oravec


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Thu Nov 21 2024 - 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024

    ...THERE IS A HIGH RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The strong Atmospheric river event into northwest California will
    continue into day 2 as deep layered southwesterly flow continues
    to the south of the northeast Pacific upper vortex. The anomalous
    deep layered southwesterly flow will continue to support 850 to 700
    mb moisture flux anomalies of 2 to 4+ standard deviations above
    the mean and IVT values in the 500 to 800 km/m-1 s-2 range across
    northwest CA. During the second half of day 2, a strong vort
    rotating around the base of the northeast Pacific vortex will
    support another rapidly deepening low moving northeast
    approximately 200 miles off the Pacific Northwest coast. While this
    second rapid cyclogenesis event will not be as strong as the
    Tuesday event, it will help to begin to push the best onshore flow
    axis back to the north during the second half of day 2, returning
    heavy precip into southwest Oregon. There is a likelihood of very
    heavy rains again falling day 2 over similar regions from the day 1
    period. Hourly rates of .25-.50"+ likely to continue at times
    supporting additional 24 hour rainfall amounts of 3 to 6 inches and
    isolated additional 24 hour totals of 6-8" across northwest CA
    into southwest OR. Storm total amounts of 12 to 16+ inches possible
    across portions of northwest California. Given the 2 days of very
    heavy totals in the same region, no significant changes were made
    to the previous high risk area. Significant flood risks will
    continue to increase day 2 along with rock and land slides as soils
    become saturated and streams and rivers continue to rise and
    overflow. Ahead of the next deepening low, rising heights over
    northern California will keep much of the precipitation in the form
    of rain. This will increase the runoff threats for areas in the
    lee of the northern Sierra. Across this region, the risk area was
    increased from slight to moderate from the previous issuance.


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA...

    The multi day atmospheric rive event will begin to weaken on day 3
    as the onshore southwesterly flow weakens and the best onshore flow
    axis shifts southward. The heaviest totals day 3 likely into the
    upslope of the northern Sierra where high heights will again favor
    a majority of the precip falling as rain. A moderate risk was added
    for this region where additional totals day 3 of 2-4 inches
    possible across areas that received 5-8+ inches days 1 and 2. Along
    the northwest California coast, additional heavy preip totals
    likely day 3, but amounts will be much less than the day 1 and day
    2 amounts, generally 1 to 1.50"+, with localized 2"+ totals. A
    slight risk was maintained here given the effects from the day 1
    and 2 amounts, which will support additional runoff issues for
    lesser than normal amounts to produce runoff concerns.

    Oravec
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  • From Mike Powell@618:250/1 to All on Friday, November 22, 2024 09:24:00
    FOUS30 KWBC 220747
    QPFERD

    Excessive Rainfall Discussion
    NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
    247 AM EST Fri Nov 22 2024

    Day 1
    Valid 12Z Fri Nov 22 2024 - 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024

    ...THERE IS A MODERATE RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS
    OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...

    The long duration, multi-day atmospheric river event that has been
    impacting northern California will finally begin to become more
    progressive and start to wane in intensity as a cold front just
    offshore of the West Coast advances inland and drives the axis of
    deeper layer Pacific moisture transport south and eastward.

    However, there will still be one more day of locally very heavy
    rainfall totals which are expected to be excessive and capable of
    driving locally significant flooding impacts. The 00Z HREF guidance
    supports some additional 5 to 10 inch rainfall totals for the
    24-hour period ending 12Z/Saturday, with the heaviest totals
    expected to be over the windward slopes of the northern Sierra
    Nevada, and perhaps locally a few of the coastal ranges just north
    of the Bay Area where there has already been very heavy rainfall
    totals over the last couple of days.

    IVT magnitudes along and just south of the cold front will be rather
    high at the start of the period this morning, with magnitudes over
    coastal areas of northwest California upwards of 750+ kg/m/s, and
    these values should decrease slowly and settle southward toward
    00Z. However, as the front gets into the Bay Area and the Central
    Valley by early this evening, there is some suggestion in the
    guidance that the front will slow down again just a bit. Coinciding
    with that will be arrival of a shortwave and associated upper-
    level jet streak (130+ kts) rounding the base of the deep offshore
    trough. This should foster a temporary resurgence/strengthening of
    the IVT values in the 00Z to 06Z time frame across the Bay Area and
    extending inland across portions of the Central Valley and
    foothills of the Sierra Nevada. Thus expectations are that heavy
    rains will overspread all of these areas along with some localized
    increase in rainfall rates this evening. In general, the rainfall
    rates will be capable of reaching 0.50" to 0.75"/hour across the
    coastal ranges around the Bay Area and also into the upslope areas
    of the northern Sierra Nevada. Given the additional rainfall
    amounts, and considering the antecedent conditions at this point,
    the Moderate Risk area is maintained across the northern Sierra
    Nevada, with a separate Moderate Risk introduced just north of the
    Bay Area involving Sonoma and Napa Counties. Other adjustments
    include extending the Marginal and Slight Risk areas a bit farther
    south to include the coastal ranges a bit south of the Bay Area and
    also more areas of the Central Valley. Flooding impacts will again
    be rather widespread and locally significant, with additional
    concerns for debris flows, rock and landslide activity, and flash
    flooding involving burn scar locations. In fact, the Park Fire burn
    area involving parts of Tehama and Butte Counties will need to be
    very closely monitored today for enhanced impacts given the amount
    of rainfall that is forecast here.

    Orrison


    Day 2
    Valid 12Z Sat Nov 23 2024 - 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    THE SIERRA NEVADA...

    At 12z Saturday the cold front and associated moisture plume will
    be dropping south across the central Sierra Nevada. By this time
    rainfall intensity will be decreasing, and the axis of better
    moisture will be dropping south of the areas hardest hit over the
    past few days. Thus the flood risk should be pretty low Saturday
    morning along this southward dropping front.

    Some weak post frontal instability is forecast which could allow for
    locally heavy showers in the wake of the front over the western
    slopes of the central Sierra Nevada. Not expecting anything too
    intense or widespread, however there is at least a chance that a few
    cells could drop a quick 0.5" or so of rain. This would be falling
    over increasingly saturated ground, and so a localized flood risk is
    possible. Thus we will maintain the small Marginal risk where a few
    heavier post frontal showers are possible Saturday.

    Chenard


    Day 3
    Valid 12Z Sun Nov 24 2024 - 12Z Mon Nov 25 2024

    ...THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF EXCESSIVE RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF
    NORTHWEST CALIFORNIA INTO FAR SOUTHWEST OREGON...

    Locally heavy rain will be possible Sunday into Sunday night over
    northwest CA into far southwest OR. A front slowing near the coast
    will provide plentiful low level moisture convergence, and mid level
    shortwave energy should provide some additional lift as well.
    Moisture is a limiting factor for heavy rainfall with the better
    moisture plume situated well south and not really getting drawn into
    this system. Thus this is not expected to be a significant
    atmospheric river, and normally would not expect a system of this
    nature to pose a flood risk. However given the significant rainfall
    over the past few days, this additional rainfall may be enough to
    cause some localized additional flooding as the area will be more hydrologically sensitive than normal. Still some model differences
    in the exact evolution of this system and thus rainfall amounts this
    period are uncertain...but current indications suggest localized
    amounts of 2-3" will be possible.

    Chenard

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