California is going to destroy itself and as a native Californian
myself, I hope to hell it does. It saddens me greatly to see crap like
this coming from my home state.

(Though calling pizza delivery a career isn't a smart choice...)

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Pizza Hut franchisees lay off more than 1,200 delivery drivers in California as
restaurants brace for $20 fast-food wages

Nancy Luna
2023-12-22T15:23:41Z

* In April, California fast-food workers are set to get a nearly 30% pay
bump to $20 an hour.
* Fast-food chains such as Chipotle say they'll raise prices to offset
the state's higher labor costs.
* Two Pizza Hut franchisees are laying off more than 1,200 delivery
drivers in California.

Two Pizza Hut operators in California are eliminating their in-house
delivery services at hundreds of stores, resulting in more than 1,200
driver layoffs, according to federal-employment notices reviewed by
Business Insider.

The layoffs, effective throughout February, affect Pizza Hut delivery
drivers across California, including at Sacramento, Palm Springs, and Los
Angeles locations. The Pizza Hut franchisees are reducing staff as
fast-food chains in the state brace for a new law that increases worker
pay to $20 an hour in April.

"PacPizza, LLC, operating as Pizza Hut, has made a business decision to
eliminate first-party delivery services and, as a result, the elimination
of all delivery driver positions," a federal WARN Act notice filed by the
fast-food operator with the state's Employment Development Department
said.

The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act requires employers
to give notice of plant closures or mass layoffs.

Other PacPizza affiliates filing notices included Southern PacPizza LLC,
CalPac Pizza LLC, and Pac Partners LLC.

A second Pizza Hut franchisee, Southern California Pizza Co., and its
affiliates are also discontinuing its in-house delivery services and
laying off about 841 drivers, according to a WARN Act notice from December
1.

The company operates dozens of stores in Orange, Los Angeles, Riverside,
Ventura, and San Bernardino counties.

A driver who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation told
BI that he was offered $400 severance pay if he stuck around through his
February 5 layoff date.

He's been a driver for nine years.

"The money they are giving us as severance pay is a slap on the face," he
said. "It comes to $3 a month for nine-plus years of service."

Gene Erdman, the chief people officer at American West Restaurant Group,
did not respond to a request for comment. The franchise also operates
under the names SoCal South OC LLC and SoCal Pizza Holdings LLC.

Lisa Hough, the director of human resources for PacPizza in San Ramon,
California, was listed as the contact on all five WARN Act notices that
the company's president, Brian E. Thompson, signed. Hough and Thompson did
not respond to a request for comment.

Customers will have to rely on third-party delivery apps to get Pizza Hut
delivered from these locations. Most Pizza Hut restaurants in the state
work with third-party delivery apps, such as DoorDash, Uber Eats, and
GrubHub.

It's unclear whether other Pizza Hut franchisees plan to scrap in-house
delivery in California.

Pizza Hut, owned by the Taco Bell parent company Yum! Brands, said the
company was "aware of the recent changes to delivery services at certain
franchise restaurants in California."

"Our franchisees independently own and operate their restaurants in
accordance with local market dynamics and comply with all federal, state,
and local regulations while continuing to provide quality service and food
to our customers via carryout and delivery," Pizza Hut told BI.

Mark Kalinowski, a restaurant-industry analyst, wrote in a note this week
that he expected "more harm to come" in various ways as fast-food chains
"take action in an attempt to blunt the impact of higher labor costs."

Chains such as Chipotle and McDonald's said they planned to pass the costs
of higher wages in California to customers by raising menu prices.

In 2022, Gov. Gavin Newsom of California signed the FAST Act into law. It
called for the minimum wage for fast-food workers to increase to $22 an
hour in 2023. But corporate chains such as McDonald's, Chipotle,
Chick-fil-A, and franchise-advocacy groups fought the law. A coalition of
restaurant-industry organizations said the law could raise costs for
fast-food restaurants by $3 billion. They rallied to get a referendum on
the ballot.

A new law, AB 1228, replaced the controversial FAST Act this year. The
minimum-wage increase for fast-food workers was changed to $20 an hour.
The new law was viewed as a compromise between the labor unions
representing fast-food workers and the restaurant industry.

The law affects 557,000 fast-food workers at 30,000 restaurants in
California.
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-- Sean


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To: Digimaus
Re: The California Left
By: Digimaus to All on Wed Dec 27 2023 01:48 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.debate

California is going to destroy itself and as a native Californian
myself, I hope to hell it does. It saddens me greatly to see crap like
this coming from my home state.

(Though calling pizza delivery a career isn't a smart choice...)

===
From: http://tinyurl.com/4vt63av6

Pizza Hut franchisees lay off more than 1,200 delivery drivers in California as
restaurants brace for $20 fast-food wages

Nancy Luna
2023-12-22T15:23:41Z

yeah that's crazy shit. california is working hard to destroy itself.
i worked with a guy who delivered pizza and ended up being a manager. you can make tons of money delivering. it just sucks because you use your own car and gas.
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Re: The California Left
By: Digimaus to All on Wed Dec 27 2023 01:48 pm

California is going to destroy itself and as a native Californian
myself, I hope to hell it does. It saddens me greatly to see crap like
this coming from my home state.

There is a Spanish saying:

"Enjoy what you voted."

So many working class people vote left to stick their finger on rich people's eyes and end up benefiting rich people and damaging themselves. It is hillarious.

This is the same people who votes against farmers. THen they complain that they can't afford a tomatoe in the grocery store. Meanwhile village people eat as many tomatoes as they want and give the ones they don't want to the pigs.

It is sad to see pizza delivery get the sharp part of the metal, though.

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Re: The California Left
By: Jas Hud to Digimaus on Thu Dec 28 2023 02:53 am

yeah that's crazy shit. california is working hard to destroy itself.
i worked with a guy who delivered pizza and ended up being a manager. you c

I think here in Spain, usual practice is for the pizza restaurant to own the equipment and pay the expenses.

Some pizza restaurants have started cutting deals with external deliverers (such as Uber Eats) as of late, probably because it allows them to have delivery without needing to hire somebody. Hiring people in Spain is extremely risky and many businesses would rather stop growing than hire more people.

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To: Arelor
Re: The California Left
By: Arelor to Digimaus on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:10 am

California is going to destroy itself and as a native Californian
myself, I hope to hell it does. It saddens me greatly to see crap like this coming from my home state.

There is a Spanish saying:

"Enjoy what you voted."

So many working class people vote left to stick their finger on rich people's eyes and end up benefiting rich people and damaging themselves. It is hillarious.

For some reason there is this lie that liberal politicians aren't rich, and they have the poor's best interests. In reality, they are just as rich as the other side. In the usa people are stupid. they will keep voting democrat in california just like they will keep voting democrat in my state of wisconsin.
Most people are retarded.
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To: Arelor
Re: The California Left
By: Arelor to Jas Hud on Sat Dec 30 2023 05:14 am

From Newsgroup: micronet.debate

Re: The California Left
By: Jas Hud to Digimaus on Thu Dec 28 2023 02:53 am

yeah that's crazy shit. california is working hard to destroy itself.
i worked with a guy who delivered pizza and ended up being a manager.
you c

I think here in Spain, usual practice is for the pizza restaurant to own

the
equipment and pay the expenses.

Usually in the usa they pay mileage and they require them to pay for their own insurance.

I think the companies should provide the driver full coverage while driving on the clock.

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Re: The California Left
By: Jas Hud to Arelor on Sun Dec 31 2023 06:30 am

I think the companies should provide the driver full coverage while driving

Pretty much.

I mean, in any case, it is going to reflect on the price of the pizza and therefore the customer is going to pay it inddirectly, so the restaurant may be the entity purchasing the insurance for reduced paperwork IMO - it sucks less for the restaurant to buy 5 insurances in bulk than it sucks for each driver to buy their own insurance.

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Hello Arelor,

Saturday December 30 2023 05:10, you wrote to Digimaus:

So many working class people vote left to stick their finger on rich people's eyes and end up benefiting rich people and damaging
themselves. It is hillarious.

Yes, then they move somewhere else and wonder why it turns into a shithole. It's already happening in my area due to them bringing their leftist politics.

I call them locusts.

This is the same people who votes against farmers. THen they complain
that they can't afford a tomatoe in the grocery store. Meanwhile
village people eat as many tomatoes as they want and give the ones
they don't want to the pigs.

They're also the ones telling people to buy meat at a grocery store becuase no animals are harmed there.

It is sad to see pizza delivery get the sharp part of the metal,
though.

It is.

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Hello Jas,

Sunday December 31 2023 06:30, you wrote to Arelor:

I think the companies should provide the driver full coverage while driving on the clock.

Almost all delivery drivers don't have the right insurance to be doing deliveries if they aren't using a company car. Nearly every state requires you to have "livery insurance" which is something cab drivers and gig drivers (Uber, Lyft) have to use.

Unfortunately, it's not cheap insurance.

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Hello Arelor,

Sunday December 31 2023 11:36, you wrote to Jas Hud:

I mean, in any case, it is going to reflect on the price of the pizza
and therefore the customer is going to pay it inddirectly, so the restaurant may be the entity purchasing the insurance for reduced
paperwork IMO - it sucks less for the restaurant to buy 5 insurances
in bulk than it sucks for each driver to buy their own insurance.

Unfortunately, in many states, it's the driver's liability if they are not driving a company-owned vehicle.


-- Sean

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To: Sean Dennis
Re: The California Left
By: Sean Dennis to Arelor on Sun Dec 31 2023 02:53 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.debate

Hello Arelor,

Saturday December 30 2023 05:10, you wrote to Digimaus:

So many working class people vote left to stick their finger on rich people's eyes and end up benefiting rich people and damaging
themselves. It is hillarious.

Yes, then they move somewhere else and wonder why it turns into a shithole. It's already happening in my area due to them bringing their leftist politics.

In my city (entirely democrat) they have a program where they are supposed to take property tax money and use it to fix up the poor black areas. instead, they are using that money to fix the rich white areas up even nicer. this is a fact, and it is illegal, and everyone knows about it. They continue to do so.

It's not a conspiracy theory, it is all there in black and white on paper. people bring it up, and it's ignored. alderman have even been caught taking bribes in the past.

I am also charged for snow removal in september.

oh but trump is so evil and that's why we all have to vote democrat!
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To: Sean Dennis
Re: Insurance was: The California Left
By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Sun Dec 31 2023 03:01 pm

Almost all delivery drivers don't have the right insurance to be doing deliveries if they aren't using a company car. Nearly every state requires you to have "livery insurance" which is something cab drivers and gig drivers (Uber, Lyft) have to use.

well uber and lyft and doordash have some type of liability coverage for the drivers. it does not protect the car but protects other car. looks like this
only kicks in if your insurance refuses.

if you have a car that is financed, i'm pretty sure they don't want you driving that car for any of this stuff. I don't think they really track it well or have an ability to track it as of yet.

people that deliver for gig jobs should have commercial insurance, but they don't. i don't.

Apparently the popular ones have 'rideshare' insurance which provides 'extra' coverage that is required for doordash, uber, lyft. i'm not going to get a quote and get marked by them to find out the price.
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