• Cnn

    From Jesse Cussins@618:618/10 to Sean Dennis on Thursday, January 27, 2022 00:36:52
    This makes me miss the early am radio show on the AM radio I grew up with.
    The news actors today are like listening to Siri read news. Even movies have become washed of all that good passion that died with real Journalism.



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  • From Arelor@618:250/24 to Jesse Cussins on Thursday, January 27, 2022 04:01:54
    Re: Cnn
    By: Jesse Cussins to Sean Dennis on Thu Jan 27 2022 12:36 am

    This makes me miss the early am radio show on the AM radio I grew up with. The news actors today are like listening to Siri read news. Even movies have become washed of all that good passion that died with real Journalism.

    I have a saying. Movies made after 2016 mostly suck. There are some exceptions but I can count with the fingers of a horse (they have 4) the number of good ater 2016 movies I have watched.

    I convinced my father to drop his streaming subscriptions because I was fed up of watching modern bad movies. Now we are watching old DVDs and classic movies. After going through a bunch of movies from the 40s and 50s my father had to say he was having a blast.

    Radio in Spain is a cesspool. Radio news are designed for scaremongering. Radio entertainment is dumb. I have some luck because we have a radio station emiting old music from the 70s which is salvageable, and that is it :-)

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Jesse Cussins on Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:18:53
    Hello Jesse,

    Thursday January 27 2022 00:36, you wrote to me:

    This makes me miss the early am radio show on the AM radio I grew up
    with.
    The news actors today are like listening to Siri read news. Even
    movies have become washed of all that good passion that died with real Journalism.

    Couldn't agree with you more. Walter Cronkite was a far-left liberal but he kept his views out of his reading the news. These days, these talking heads (I think it's a stretch to call them journalists) don't have any common sense nor critical thinking skills.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Arelor on Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:21:07
    Hello Arelor,

    Thursday January 27 2022 04:01, you wrote to Jesse Cussins:

    Radio in Spain is a cesspool. Radio news are designed for
    scaremongering. Radio entertainment is dumb. I have some luck because
    we have a radio station emiting old music from the 70s which is salvageable, and that is it :-)

    Here in the States, especially out here in the sticks, your local radio stations aren't like that so much, thankfully.

    -- Sean

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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Jesse Cussins on Thursday, January 27, 2022 07:05:00
    Jesse Cussins wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    This makes me miss the early am radio show on the AM radio I grew up
    with. The news actors today are like listening to Siri read news. Even movies have become washed of all that good passion that died with real Journalism.

    On the other side of the spectrum, I miss late night AM radio. I *loved* Art Bell when my kids were growing up. I picked up a little AM radio with
    earbuds and would listen when they got up to feed in the middle of the
    night.

    John Wells did a pretty good job covering the same materials, but I got the feeling he rubbed TPTB the wrong way.

    George Noory always reminded of me of Jay Leno. Not the best, but the most influential in their field.


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  • From Kurt Weiske@618:300/1 to Arelor on Thursday, January 27, 2022 07:07:00
    Arelor wrote to Jesse Cussins <=-

    Radio in Spain is a cesspool. Radio news are designed for
    scaremongering. Radio entertainment is dumb. I have some luck because
    we have a radio station emiting old music from the 70s which is salvageable, and that is it :-)

    I used to love lively talk radio, and on a lark tuned in to a fairly well- respected local AM station while driving. The number of commercials shocked me, and the host sounded like he'd been doing it for decades, with sort of a gravely, slow delivery. If you're in Radio, saying "um" more than once
    should be a sackable offense, IMO.




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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:38:35
    Hello Kurt,

    Thursday January 27 2022 07:05, you wrote to Jesse Cussins:

    On the other side of the spectrum, I miss late night AM radio. I
    *loved* Art Bell when my kids were growing up. I picked up a little AM radio with earbuds and would listen when they got up to feed in the
    middle of the night.

    A local FM talk radio station carries AM Coast to Coast with George Noory and like you, I miss Art Bell. George does a good job but he just doesn't have that "j'est ne sais quoi" (sp?) that Art had.

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:41:26
    Hello Kurt,

    Thursday January 27 2022 07:07, you wrote to Arelor:

    I used to love lively talk radio, and on a lark tuned in to a fairly
    well- respected local AM station while driving. The number of
    commercials shocked me, and the host sounded like he'd been doing it
    for decades, with sort of a gravely, slow delivery. If you're in
    Radio, saying "um" more than once should be a sackable offense, IMO.

    Here, all the good experienced local talk show hosts are dying off and their shows are being replaced with canned syndicated shows. These shows have good content occasionally but the delivery of the content is more of a "talking head" type rather than a good commentator style that adds value to the initial content of the discussion.

    Saying "um" all the time is the sign of someone who can't think fast enough on their feet to be on the air.

    -- Sean

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  • From Mark Hofmann@618:100/12 to Arelor on Friday, January 28, 2022 21:16:48
    I have a saying. Movies made after 2016 mostly suck. There are some exceptions but I can count with the fingers of a horse (they have 4) the number of good ater 2016 movies I have watched.

    Very true. Almost every single TV show and movie has to throw in their HollyWeird agendas and propaganda and I have zero interest in their warped world.

    I convinced my father to drop his streaming subscriptions because I was
    fed up of watching modern bad movies. Now we are watching old DVDs and classic movies. After going through a bunch of movies from the 40s and 50s my father had to say he was having a blast.

    Radio in Spain is a cesspool. Radio news are designed for scaremongering. Radio entertainment is dumb. I have some luck because we have a radio station emiting old music from the 70s which is salvageable, and that is

    I have not watched the news or sports for at least 4 years now. It is very refreshing, I must say. I could care less what any politician has to say or any "news" station. There is no news, it is all a big agenda / propaganda / fear mongering BS. I have better things to do with my time.

    - Mark

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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/10 to All on Monday, February 07, 2022 12:55:00
    From: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-weird-world-of-cnn

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    The Washington Examiner
    Friday, February 04, 2022

    The weird world of CNN

    by Byron York, Chief Political Correspondent | February 04, 2022 10:18 AM

    THE WEIRD WORLD OF CNN. The oldest, and lowest-rated, of the Big 3 cable
    news networks is in an apparent meltdown these days. Much of the staff of
    CNN is upset about the sudden, unexpected firing of network president Jeff
    Zucker, who was dismissed for not reporting an affair with a subordinate.
    But here is the weird thing few seem to be talking about. All the angst,
    all the uproar, all the tumult, is over a man who was running the network
    into the ground.

    Get to the drama later. First this: A few days ago, Mediaite ran a story
    headlined, "January Ratings: Fox News Hits 20 Years at Number 1, While CNN
    and MSNBC See Massive Drops From Last Year." Massive was right. The
    article reported that, compared to last year, CNN "is down 74 percent in
    total viewers and 81 percent in the demo during day time, and is down 77%
    in total viewers and 82 percent down in the demo during prime time." (The
    "demo" refers to advertisers' most sought-after viewers between 18 and 49
    years of age.)

    CNN's fall was indeed massive. Yes, other networks were also down from the
    super-newsy days of the 2020 presidential campaign and transition. But
    MSNBC was down 56% in total viewers during prime time, while Fox News was
    down 12% in prime time. (Note: I am a Fox News contributor.)

    So, CNN's losses were indeed enormous. The network succeeded in running
    three-quarters of its audience away, all in the space of a year. And that
    was on top of years of embarrassments for Zucker and his team. In recent
    times, they took criticism from the Left for over-covering Donald Trump's
    2016 campaign, "sometimes going so far as to broadcast images of an empty
    lectern with embarrassing chyrons such as 'Breaking News: Standing By for
    Trump to Speak,'" wrote the Washington Post's media columnist Margaret
    Sullivan.

    Then, when Trump won the 2016 election, CNN shamed itself with its
    over-the-top promotion, and wall-to-wall coverage, of the Trump-Russia
    collusion theory. Remember it was CNN that played a key role in bringing
    to light the Steele dossier, the sensational, salacious, and
    never-verified Democratic dirty trick that did enormous damage to the new
    administration before Trump even took the oath of office.

    In early 2019, the contrarian journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote a story
    called "The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the
    Trump-Russia Story," and CNN played a prominent role. With stories like
    this:

    On July 27, 2018, CNN published a blockbuster story: that Michael Cohen
    was prepared to tell Robert Mueller that President Trump knew in advance
    about the Trump Tower meeting. There were, however, two problems with this
    story: first, CNN got caught blatantly lying when its reporters claimed
    that "contacted by CNN, one of Cohen's attorneys, Lanny Davis, declined to
    comment" (in fact, Davis was one of CNN's key sources, if not its only
    source, for this story), and second, numerous other outlets retracted the
    story after the source, Davis, admitted it was a lie. CNN, however, to
    this date has refused to do either.

    It's hard to exaggerate how worked up CNN got about this and other stories
    during the Trump-Russia matter. They talked about it for hour after hour.
    And in the end, the network got the big picture - Trump-Russia collusion -
    wrong. Plus, for most of the time, CNN stayed in third place in the
    ratings.

    The network had a brief moment in January 2021, when, bolstered by its
    audience's intense interest in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and the second
    Trump impeachment, it rose to the top of the ratings. But it soon began to
    sink, and it has continued sinking to its present sorry state. Trump likes
    to joke that CNN needs him for ratings, but the fact is, CNN has been down
    for a long, long time. Fox surpassed CNN in the overall ratings in January
    2002 and has stayed on top since then.

    Zucker has presided over the losses for the last nine years. If a network
    measures its success by attracting viewers - and while that is not the
    only measure of success, it is extremely important - CNN, under Zucker,
    failed and failed and failed.

    Nevertheless, now that Zucker is out - and we still do not know the entire
    story of his ouster - the staff is mourning the loss of the Great Leader.
    According to CNN's Brian Stelter, Michael Bass, one of the top network
    executives who is part of an interim leadership team, said the morning
    after the news broke, "I know we're all in shock. You can't replace Jeff.
    It's not possible. There's no one else like him. The best thing we can do
    is honor his legacy and continue his mission. Do what we've been doing
    every single day." At a staff meeting, also according to Stelter, a CNN
    anchor said, "I just don't want us to be rudderless" - as if Zucker had
    been steering them in the right direction.

    And after disbelief came anger. "Zucker's fiercely loyal employees have
    been shocked and enraged," reported Vanity Fair. They are mad at Jason
    Kilar, the head of WarnerMedia who fired Zucker. When Kilar appeared at a
    staff meeting in the Washington, D.C., bureau, reporter Jamie Gangel told
    him: "From everything we've been told, this [Zucker's firing] does not fit
    the crime. I think the company has made a terrible mistake. I do not think
    you have any appreciation for what you've done to this organization, and
    to our coverage, and to all the people who worked for him."

    Gangel told the meeting that anger over Zucker's firing has spread to high
    levels of the U.S. government. "The first calls I got this morning were
    from four members of the January 6 committee, who felt devastated for our
    democracy," she said, "because Jeff was not going to be around to make
    sure that CNN is able to do its job." The extensive quotes are possible
    because someone in the meeting made an audio recording of it and leaked it
    to the media. (By the way, Gangel later corrected herself; she was
    contacted by four members of Congress, but only one of them was a member
    of the January 6 committee.)

    To outsiders, it all seemed exceedingly ... weird. Perhaps Zucker had
    treated them well personally; he was known to keep good relations with
    on-air talent. But aside from its brief shining moment in January 2021,
    CNN has been in the cellar so long that perhaps some have become unable to
    imagine that another leader might actually do a better job.

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