Arelor wrote to TheCivvie <=-

I have migrated my family over to Signal Messenger. They keep their Facebooks but if they want to find me online they are going to have to play with my rules.

Ah, Christmastime - time to update grandma's laptop, check the modem, do all of the family IT stuff.

It might be time, with family all in one place, to move to a better
messaging platform. My family is 25% Android and 75% Apple, so I'd like to
get a cross-platform video and secure messaging app going.


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Hello Kurt Weiske!

** On Tuesday 21.12.21 - 08:18, Kurt Weiske wrote to Arelor:

It might be time, with family all in one place, to move to
a better messaging platform. My family is 25% Android and
75% Apple, so I'd like to get a cross-platform video and
secure messaging app going.

DeltaChat is interesting for email. Between DeltaChat clients,
the messages are automatically encrypted.
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Re: Re: The Brittish Medical Journal is flagged as a fake news blog site
By: Kurt Weiske to Arelor on Tue Dec 21 2021 08:18 am

Arelor wrote to TheCivvie <=-

I have migrated my family over to Signal Messenger. They keep their Facebooks
if they want to find me online they are going to have to play with my rules.

Ah, Christmastime - time to update grandma's laptop, check the modem, do all of th
family IT stuff.

It might be time, with family all in one place, to move to a better messaging platform. My family is 25% Android and 75% Apple, so I'd like to get a cross-platform video and secure messaging app going.

... Always the first steps

I don't really do free IT for family anymore. My father uses some Linux I set for him,
so he never getsserious breakages. My mother always was angry at me while I was fixing
her problems and, once I was done, she kicked me out of the room without thanking me
or anything, so I stopped fixing things for her.

Signal is nice for text messages and images. It also does voice, but I can't recommend
it for voice because if your network coverage is not good, it is unusable.

Quality, secure, private videoconferencing is a problem still to be solved imo. There
is Jitsi, which is FOSS and you could host oyurself if need be. The stack is a monster
to set (and very dirty if you look at it) so people ends up using public instances.
The problem is that you end up trusting the administrators of the public instance you
use. This may be acceptable or not.

Nextcloud talk is workable for 4 or less people. If you are already using Nextcloud
and have an instance running, adding a Talk install to it may be an option. The issue
is that stock Nextcloud cannot cope with big conferences (for legit, technical reasons) and that modifying it to cope with big groups is non trivial (to the point
people buys a support contract for setting it up).

I am not a fan of videoconferencing myself. It has its uses, but 95% of the time you
only need audio. Even if you are in a meeting that requires you to deliver pictures
and diagrams to other participants, many audiochat systems allow doing just that. I
personally don't think the increased use of bandwidth and the complexity of implementation for video is worth it for most users*

*Full disclosure, my connectivity sucks so the difference between Mumble and Jitsi
with video is "It Works Great" vs "The chat is hogging all the bandwith and now my
mother can't barely browse the web while I am in a virtual meeting"

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Re: Re: The Brittish Medical Journal is flagged as a fake news blog site
By: Kurt Weiske to Arelor on Tue Dec 21 2021 08:18 am

It might be time, with family all in one place, to move to a better messaging platform. My family is 25% Android and 75% Apple, so I'd like to get a cross-platform video and secure messaging app going.

BTW, since Apple now actively scans people's phones to see what is in them, I think
your family has bigger issues than running untrusted chat systems.

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Hello Arelor!

20 Dec 21 18:20, you wrote to me:

I take a "holiday" every so often from it and dont miss it. It is
more to ke in contact with family that I do so, although recently I
have started insist on Signal or Threema for updates

TheCivvie

I have migrated my family over to Signal Messenger. They keep their Facebooks but if they want to find me online they are going to have to play with my rules.

I am not even a hardcore Signal fan. It is just the best thing they
are going to be able to use.

I tend to download new IM and see how they are, Signal has been the one I have used for the longest, mainly as it was used for a charity I worked with

TheCivvie


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