The subject of audio came up in this single-parent household with my teenage daughter... "If you didn't have Internet, how did you put together playlists of music you liked?"

Okay... Grab a Maxell, TDK or Denon chrome-dioxide cassette. The quality of cassette makes a huge difference. Avoid Basf and some other brands. In this household, Maxell XL-II is king. Metal tapes are good but expensive.

The tape deck must first be calibrated for proper Bias and EQ, luckily I already did this and my deck has the ability to set this for future use. The azimuth of the heads is also critical but in most cases this is set right.

Grab your music from vinyl or CD or perhaps you have a slave-deck and you
want to use music from other tapes. Begin by cueing up whatever the song is
on the turntable or CD player, while the tape deck is set on Record/Pause.

Fast-forward the tape a bit so a test snippet can be recorded which will
be recorded over afterward. Allow the song to play while you hit Record. It
is important to use a 3-head tape deck to allow monitoring of the recording,
so you literally scan through the song or set the needle on what you know is the loudest part of the track. The recording level is then set to that
maximum.

Rewind the tape a few turns if necessary to play back that loudest part because its important when using Dolby HX or B reduction that there is no distortion. When that peak level is met (paying attention to the VU meters), rewind the tape back to where the recording must start and record the song.

This to me is a fine art because it requires careful listening and knowledge of that song's loudest part while carefully adjusting the recording level. Distortion in the recording is a no-no.

I do not believe in wasted space on mixtapes, so its important to let the song play all the way through to where there is silence, then repeat the process by rewinding the tape to that exact moment where silence begins and the new recording starts.

Also it is necessary to make sure the time of the songs does not "cut off" towards the end of the tape. Vinyl records must be cleaned and CD's inspected for fingerprints or scratches because nothing worse than a skip during a recording; when working with tapes where you do not want silence, this becomes a challenge to "correct" unless you have a very good 3-head deck with a solid stop-mechanism. As in, when you rewind and hit stop, the tape stops dead-on.

The flow of songs is important - This is the heart of a mixtape of music is songs that contexually flow from one to the next. Never make a tape of sad-bastard ballads (unless you love depression), there should be a good mix where the entire side of that tape has sortof a musical theme or direction.

"Dad... you're insane... I just go on Spotify".

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

The subject of audio came up in this single-parent household with
my teenage daughter... "If you didn't have Internet, how did you
put together playlists of music you liked?"

Okay... Grab a Maxell, TDK or Denon chrome-dioxide cassette. The
quality of cassette makes a huge difference. Avoid Basf and some
other brands. In this household, Maxell XL-II is king. Metal
tapes are good but expensive.

The tape deck must first be calibrated for proper Bias and EQ,
luckily I already did this and my deck has the ability to set
this for future use. The azimuth of the heads is also critical
but in most cases this is set right.

Grab your music from vinyl or CD or perhaps you have a slave-deck
and you want to use music from other tapes. Begin by cueing up
whatever the song is on the turntable or CD player, while the
tape deck is set on Record/Pause.

Fast-forward the tape a bit so a test snippet can be recorded
which will be recorded over afterward. Allow the song to play
while you hit Record. It is important to use a 3-head tape deck
to allow monitoring of the recording, so you literally scan
through the song or set the needle on what you know is the
loudest part of the track. The recording level is then set to
that maximum.

Rewind the tape a few turns if necessary to play back that
loudest part because its important when using Dolby HX or B
reduction that there is no distortion. When that peak level is
met (paying attention to the VU meters), rewind the tape back to
where the recording must start and record the song.

This to me is a fine art because it requires careful listening
and knowledge of that song's loudest part while carefully
adjusting the recording level. Distortion in the recording is a
no-no.

I do not believe in wasted space on mixtapes, so its important to
let the song play all the way through to where there is silence,
then repeat the process by rewinding the tape to that exact
moment where silence begins and the new recording starts.

Also it is necessary to make sure the time of the songs does not
"cut off" towards the end of the tape. Vinyl records must be
cleaned and CD's inspected for fingerprints or scratches because
nothing worse than a skip during a recording; when working with
tapes where you do not want silence, this becomes a challenge to
"correct" unless you have a very good 3-head deck with a solid stop-mechanism. As in, when you rewind and hit stop, the tape
stops dead-on.

The flow of songs is important - This is the heart of a mixtape
of music is songs that contexually flow from one to the next.
Never make a tape of sad-bastard ballads (unless you love
depression), there should be a good mix where the entire side of
that tape has sortof a musical theme or direction.

"Dad... you're insane... I just go on Spotify".

Hahaha, great stuff! A fine art which has been largely lost to the
wheels of time. I did similar things, perhaps not quite as in-depth as
you described though. Agreed on the "theme" thing for sure.

Did you also explain to her the importance of having a yellow #2 pencil
in the car at all times? :-)

Next up: The difficulties of trying to talk to your BF/GF on the
(corded) wall phone in the kitchen (the only phone in the house), with
most of the family within earshot at all times. LOL



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Hello Nick!

On 21 Jul 2023, Nick Andre said the following...

"Dad... you're insane... I just go on Spotify".

:-D

Tape recording is a fine art indeed!

Have been collecting some separates here for a future "rig", among those some 2-head decks. Actually opted for 2-head decks after working on replacing belts and idlers in an old 3-head Pioneer deck -- oh, what an insanely complicated (and seemingly totally overworked) mechanism they had for detecting the position of all the mech stuff! Will be relying on auto-cal in the 2-headers instead and hoping that it will yield at least some advantage over the factory settings (which I've read are often calibrated for TDK SA or similar).

Picking good cassettes is also an art of its own, with lots of pitfalls, as many (especially BASF and TDK it looks like) went downhill quite fast in the late 90s... Some of the nicer ones I've managed to find are 1988-1989 Sony UX-Pro and Metal ES, some 1990 TDK SA-X, but also some early 90s TDK SA-XS, BASF TP II Reference Maxima and some very late Sony UX-S, which according to some tests showed very strong similarities with UX-ES/UX-Pro (maybe they used up old stocks of tape and put the same formula in all tapes at the end of the tape era).

Of course, it's all in the ear of the beholder. (I'm not a "snob" when it comes to sound -- I'm rather looking for decent sound and good price/performance.)

Sorry for ranting, I'm off my tape soapbox now. :)

Best regards
Zip

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Hello Zip,

Saturday July 22 2023 17:38, you wrote to Nick Andre:

Sorry for ranting, I'm off my tape soapbox now. :)

I used to have a Pioneer three-head, three-motor reel-to-reel that was stolen. I miss that thing; I made some huge mixtapes...some 6 to 8 hours long and all recorded off of thr radio!

Kids these days just don't know what they're missing.

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Hello Sean!

On 22 Jul 2023, Sean Dennis said the following...

Kids these days just don't know what they're missing.

And, having everything so easily accessible nowadays, I guess you could say that they take a lot of (at least those) things for granted. :)

Best regards
Zip

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Hello Zip,

Sunday July 23 2023 08:00, you wrote to me:

And, having everything so easily accessible nowadays, I guess you
could say that they take a lot of (at least those) things for granted.
:)

They'll never know the joy of being able to thread the return reel one-handed...

-- Sean

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On 22 Jul 23 09:10:00, Gamgee said the following to Nick Andre:

Next up: The difficulties of trying to talk to your BF/GF on the
(corded) wall phone in the kitchen (the only phone in the house), with
most of the family within earshot at all times. LOL

Yes, had to experience THAT growing up, trying to chat it up with a GF.

Who was that son? Is she nice? Why don't you invite her over to our barbeque party this weekend? We're having hotdogs, sausages.

"No mom, that would probably send the wrong impression"

Nick

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On 22 Jul 23 17:38:20, Zip said the following to Nick Andre:

Picking good cassettes is also an art of its own, with lots of pitfalls, as many (especially BASF and TDK it looks like) went downhill quite fast in the late 90s... Some of the nicer ones I've managed to find are 1988-1989 Sony UX-Pro and Metal ES, some 1990 TDK SA-X, but also some early 90s TDK SA-XS,

I don't know what it was but Maxell XL-II just stuck with me, still use a "workhorse" Tascam 122 with 3 heads and calibrated for that make of tape.

Nick

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On 23 Jul 23 08:00:24, Zip said the following to Sean Dennis:

Kids these days just don't know what they're missing.

And, having everything so easily accessible nowadays, I guess you could say that they take a lot of (at least those) things for granted. :)

As I said... I cannot compete with Spotify.

Nick

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On 23 Jul 23 02:50:26, Sean Dennis said the following to Zip:

And, having everything so easily accessible nowadays, I guess you
could say that they take a lot of (at least those) things for granted.
:)

They'll never know the joy of being able to thread the return reel one-handed...

I can do that with my Teac A3440...

Nick

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Nick Andre wrote to Gamgee <=-

On 22 Jul 23 09:10:00, Gamgee said the following to Nick Andre:

Next up: The difficulties of trying to talk to your BF/GF on the
(corded) wall phone in the kitchen (the only phone in the house), with
most of the family within earshot at all times. LOL

Yes, had to experience THAT growing up, trying to chat it up with
a GF.

Who was that son? Is she nice? Why don't you invite her over to
our barbeque party this weekend? We're having hotdogs, sausages.

"No mom, that would probably send the wrong impression"

Hahahaha! Yep. And sometimes you wanted to answer Mom with: "No, she's
not really nice..., but she has other good qualities". LOL



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Nick Andre wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I can do that with my Teac A3440...

I really, really want a reel-to-reel deck badly.

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Nick Andre wrote to Gamgee <=-

"No mom, that would probably send the wrong impression"

LOL

-- Sean


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Nick Andre wrote to Zip <=-

I don't know what it was but Maxell XL-II just stuck with me, still use
a "workhorse" Tascam 122 with 3 heads and calibrated for that make of tape.

Pioneer recommended use of the metal tape in their equipment. I remember
well wishing I had some of that good metal tape but it was far out of
financial reach. I'm afraid to see the cost of it now!

-- Sean

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Nick Andre wrote to Zip <=-

As I said... I cannot compete with Spotify.

No but half of the music on Spotify is crap.

-- Sean

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Gamgee wrote to Nick Andre <=-

Hahahaha! Yep. And sometimes you wanted to answer Mom with: "No,
she's not really nice..., but she has other good qualities". LOL

As I once said to a friend, "She's kinda mean but she's got more curves than
a mountain road." Ah, those were the days...

-- Sean

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Hello Sean Dennis!

** On Sunday 23.07.23 - 18:49, Sean Dennis wrote to Nick Andre:

Nick Andre wrote to Zip <=-

As I said... I cannot compete with Spotify.

No but half of the music on Spotify is crap.

They've done a pretty good job including some bands that I was
familiar with in the 70s, eg: The Spotniks, Brewer & Shipley
(One Toke Over the Line - my first 45rpm record while in public
school!).

Someone mentioned Tom Wilson wrt to an autobiography. Never
heard of the guy. But apparently he got the Order of Canada
last month for "artistic contributions". And thanks to
Spotify, it's rather nice to test-drive new artists on demand.
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Sean Dennis wrote to Gamgee <=-

Gamgee wrote to Nick Andre <=-

Hahahaha! Yep. And sometimes you wanted to answer Mom with: "No,
she's not really nice..., but she has other good qualities". LOL

As I once said to a friend, "She's kinda mean but she's got more
curves than a mountain road." Ah, those were the days...

Yep, indeed they were. ;-)



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On 23 Jul 23 21:33:00, August Abolins said the following to Sean Dennis:

They've done a pretty good job including some bands that I was
familiar with in the 70s, eg: The Spotniks, Brewer & Shipley
(One Toke Over the Line - my first 45rpm record while in public
school!).

"Witchi-tai-to" was a very underrated B&S album track.

I really don't like Spotify, often times it doesn't play the version of the song I asked for; always giving me some weird alternate take or live version.

Have always thought Sirius XM was farrrrrr better than any Spotify or Pandora crapola. Real DJ's running things like a real radio station, even the very
rare speciality stuff gets the posh treatment.

Nick

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Hello Nick,

Monday July 24 2023 10:53, you wrote to August Abolins:

Have always thought Sirius XM was farrrrrr better than any Spotify or Pandora crapola. Real DJ's running things like a real radio station,
even the very rare speciality stuff gets the posh treatment.

Used to have a full Sirius XM setup for my SUV but lost it all when the Pathfinder caught fire.

-- Sean

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Hello Nick!

** On Monday 24.07.23 - 10:53, you wrote to me:

On 23 Jul 23 21:33:00, August Abolins said the following to Sean Dennis:

They've done a pretty good job including some bands that
I was familiar with in the 70s, eg: The Spotniks, Brewer
& Shipley (One Toke Over the Line - my first 45rpm record
while in public school!).

"Witchi-tai-to" was a very underrated B&S album track.

Well.. thanks to Spotify, I checked it out. Excellent tune!

I would like some of the others more if they didn't emphasize
the sliding steel guitar so much.

People Love Each Other would be great just with the regular
acoustic guitars.

Rise Up (Easy Rider) is quite fine.

I didn't realize that they put out an album in 2014, Shanghai.
It's pretty good:

Heart of Steel = +1

Make My Bed = +1 +1

Take More Money = hmmm.. pass.

Blue Island Moon = +1 +1

Night People = +1 +1

Dance With a Lady = hmmm.. so so.

Streets of America = a bit too upbeat and repetive (and hint of
steel guitar).

Angel and Juanita = this needs to grow on me. a potential +1 +1

I Will Testify = a quirky east indian intro, but the rest of
the song is quite fine. +1

A Million Broken Hearts = nothing extraordinary, but quite ok.

Real Good Thing = a slow dance tune, but ok.

Hang On = ties into the title of the album. listenable.

I really don't like Spotify, often times it doesn't play
the version of the song I asked for; always giving me some
weird alternate take or live version.

Perhaps the algorithm gets better the more often you use it. I
don't really explore their suggestions algorithms very much.

The trick is to look at all the versions of a particular title.
There ARE plenty of covers and karaoke versions out there.

Have always thought Sirius XM was farrrrrr better than any
Spotify or Pandora crapola. Real DJ's running things like
a real radio station, even the very rare speciality stuff
gets the posh treatment.

I like being my own DJ and exploring the material out there on
demand.

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Nick Andre wrote to All <=-

Okay... Grab a Maxell, TDK or Denon chrome-dioxide cassette. The
quality of cassette makes a huge difference. Avoid Basf and some other brands. In this household, Maxell XL-II is king. Metal tapes are good
but expensive.

TDK SAs, here. Or the MA-90s for those special albums...

That was quite the walk down memory lane, but the other aspect of
mixtapes was getting the right mix of music for that special someone.
Since it wasn't random access, the recipent would listen to it in one
sitting, hopefully.

(continuity is something missing in CDs. People jump around, whereas we
used to listen to LPs in one sitting, both sides. Ditto for
cassettes. The music has a different meaning when it's designed to be
listened to that way...)





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Re: Re: Mixtapes
By: Kurt Weiske to Nick Andre on Sat Jul 22 2023 11:47 am

Since it wasn't random access, the recipent would listen to it in one
sitting, hopefully.

so would you have to restart it from the beginning every time, or would you be unable to restart it?
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Hello Kurt!

** On Saturday 22.07.23 - 11:47, Kurt Weiske wrote to Nick Andre:

(continuity is something missing in CDs. People jump
around, whereas we used to listen to LPs in one sitting,
both sides. Ditto for cassettes. The music has a
different meaning when it's designed to be listened to
that way...)

I had a Sony cassette deck that had a "random" setting, and a
programmable one. I could preselect the tracks in any order and
it would seek-n-find to play accordingly. Random was pretty
wild to witness too, but most of my mixtapes only had the LP
tracks that I wanted to audition the most anyway.

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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to Kurt Weiske on Tue Jul 25 2023 08:41 pm

I had a Sony cassette deck that had a "random" setting, and a
programmable one. I could preselect the tracks in any order and
it would seek-n-find to play accordingly. Random was pretty
wild to witness too, but most of my mixtapes only had the LP
tracks that I wanted to audition the most anyway.

I am not a fan of random playlists. They make it easy for you to lose track of what you are listening to (pun intended). If you get a new CD as a birthday gift and play it in random mode you are less likely to know which song is which in the end.

Just an observation. I play albums straight so after a couple of goes I know the good songs are the second and the 5th, so I can look them up in the list at the back of the album. May father just dumps five albums in the same mix and plays them random, so when he discovers he likes a band he has more trouble finding out the name of the band he likes and the track number of his favourite songs.

The fact he rips music with filenames such as 01-Unknown Artist - Unknown Song.ogg does not help.

I sincerely hope I am adopted.

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Re: Mixtapes
By: Arelor to August Abolins on Wed Jul 26 2023 02:01 pm

The fact he rips music with filenames such as 01-Unknown Artist - Unknown Song.ogg does not help.

oh my god i HATE that!
if i rip something and its artist-song is unknown, i just put it into audacity and add that info in it drives me so crazy
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On 26 Jul 23 12:57:36, Candy Cane said the following to Arelor:

oh my god i HATE that!
if i rip something and its artist-song is unknown, i just put it into audac and add that info in it drives me so crazy

When I copied my CD collection to Emby, I used Audiograbber which does the lookup to a site called freedb.org or something, which auto-populates the entire CD track names based on the checksum of the CD's table of contents.

Nick

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On 25 Jul 23 20:41:00, August Abolins said the following to Kurt Weiske:

I had a Sony cassette deck that had a "random" setting, and a programmable one. I could preselect the tracks in any order and
it would seek-n-find to play accordingly. Random was pretty
wild to witness too, but most of my mixtapes only had the LP
tracks that I wanted to audition the most anyway.

Thats awesome.

Three decks were my "workhorse" units over the years... Sean knows... the Tascam 122 which I still own, and then I had an Akai GX and a Technics RS575 which for some reason had all kinds of unnecessary parts to automatically open and close the cassette door... As if THAT was a necessary tech to have.

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Re: Re: Mixtapes
By: Nick Andre to Candy Cane on Wed Jul 26 2023 05:31 pm

On 26 Jul 23 12:57:36, Candy Cane said the following to Arelor:

oh my god i HATE that!
if i rip something and its artist-song is unknown, i just put it into au and add that info in it drives me so crazy

When I copied my CD collection to Emby, I used Audiograbber which does the lookup to a site called freedb.org or something, which auto-populates the entire CD track names based on the checksum of the CD's table of contents.

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sounds neat! i havent had to rip cd's in a whiile but if i do ill use that
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Re: Mixtapes
By: Candy Cane to Arelor on Wed Jul 26 2023 12:57 pm

Re: Mixtapes
By: Arelor to August Abolins on Wed Jul 26 2023 02:01 pm

The fact he rips music with filenames such as 01-Unknown Artist - Unknown Song.ogg does not help.

oh my god i HATE that!
if i rip something and its artist-song is unknown, i just put it into audaci and add that info in it drives me so crazy
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My fathr is just lazy. Oftentimes he has the original album and the booklet that comes with it. He just does not care to write the titles in the CD ripping software.

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Re: Mixtapes
By: Candy Cane to Arelor on Wed Jul 26 2023 12:57 pm

Re: Mixtapes
By: Arelor to August Abolins on Wed Jul 26 2023 02:01 pm

The fact he rips music with filenames such as 01-Unknown Artist - Unknown Song.ogg does not help.

oh my god i HATE that!
if i rip something and its artist-song is unknown, i just put it into audaci and add that info in it drives me so crazy
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My fathr is just lazy. Oftentimes he has the original album and the booklet that comes with it. He just does not care to write the titles
in the CD ripping software.

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i mean i get that, i'd just be worried i would lose the booklet and stuff.. like to keep everything together

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Hello candycane,

Thursday July 27 2023 15:09, you wrote to Arelor:

i mean i get that, i'd just be worried i would lose the booklet and
stuff.. like to keep everything together

I do believe there's software that will let you do that.

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Sean Dennis wrote to candycane <=-

Hello candycane,

Thursday July 27 2023 15:09, you wrote to Arelor:

i mean i get that, i'd just be worried i would lose the booklet and
stuff.. like to keep everything together

I do believe there's software that will let you do that.

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software to scan the booklet, or download it from online?

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 27.07.23 - 13:05, Arelor wrote to Candy Cane:

My fathr is just lazy. Oftentimes he has the original album
and the booklet that comes with it. He just does not care
to write the titles in the CD ripping software.

Maybe he simply doesn't like typing?

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On 27 Jul 23 15:09:00, Candycane said the following to Arelor:

i mean i get that, i'd just be worried i would lose the booklet and stuff.. like to keep everything together

Thats the thing about records and CD's which streaming and Mp3's don't provide... I love that tactile feeling of holding that album in my hands.

I can copy my DVD collection to a streaming storage server and be "done" with them, but my music and Hifi collection is something else. I spent a small fortune on it number one and number two, music really got me through some hard times in life.

Theres "something" about setting that turntable needle gently down on some album, with the giant headphones on, in the dark... immersing ones self in
that album experience.

I cannot part with those things very easily, even as my sole next-of-kin teenage daughter really shows no interest.

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Nick Andre wrote to Candycane <=-

On 27 Jul 23 15:09:00, Candycane said the following to Arelor:

i mean i get that, i'd just be worried i would lose the booklet and stuff.. like to keep everything together

Thats the thing about records and CD's which streaming and Mp3's don't provide... I love that tactile feeling of holding that album in my
hands.

I can copy my DVD collection to a streaming storage server and be
"done" with them, but my music and Hifi collection is something else. I spent a small fortune on it number one and number two, music really got
me through some hard times in life.

Theres "something" about setting that turntable needle gently down on
some album, with the giant headphones on, in the dark... immersing ones self in that album experience.

I cannot part with those things very easily, even as my sole
next-of-kin teenage daughter really shows no interest.

Nick

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yea, i only have 2 cd's and a cheap radio/cd clock, but i still enjoy going to put it on sometimes
i do have it ripped on my computer tho

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August Abolins wrote to Arelor <=-

Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 27.07.23 - 13:05, Arelor wrote to Candy Cane:

My fathr is just lazy. Oftentimes he has the original album
and the booklet that comes with it. He just does not care
to write the titles in the CD ripping software.

Maybe he simply doesn't like typing?

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isnt using a computer all about typing tho

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Hello candycane!

Maybe he simply doesn't like typing?

isnt using a computer all about typing tho

Nope. Could be someone who just does the "point n click" :|

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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to candycane on Fri Jul 28 2023 08:03 am

Hello candycane!

Maybe he simply doesn't like typing?

isnt using a computer all about typing tho

Nope. Could be someone who just does the "point n click" :|

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well, thats fair i suppose.. to each their own

candycane

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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Thu Jul 27 2023 07:45 pm

Maybe he simply doesn't like typing?

He is just a lazy ass.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 26.07.23 - 14:01, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

I am not a fan of random playlists. They make it easy for
you to lose track of what you are listening to (pun
intended). If you get a new CD as a birthday gift and play
it in random mode you are less likely to know which song is
which in the end.

For me, I like the "surprise" element (never knowing which tune
will be next). It keeps the listening experience fresh. I've
simply grown tired of knowing what tune will be next on a
favourite recording.

Just an observation. I play albums straight so after a
couple of goes I know the good songs are the second and the
5th, so I can look them up in the list at the back of the
album.

Yeah sure.. I would do that for a first-time recording. But
then, I *can* seem to remember the favourite ones by title and
refer to them at any time.

May father just dumps five albums in the same mix and plays
them random, so when he discovers he likes a band he has
more trouble finding out the name of the band he likes and
the track number of his favourite songs.

Is that on a 5-disc CD player or something? That would be
tricky to identify unless one pays attention do the operating
panel for Disc # and track # and take notes - which I would do.

The fact he rips music with filenames such as 01-Unknown
Artist - Unknown Song.ogg does not help.

Outch. That's kinda lazy for sure. There are resources like
CDDB built into rippers that ought to solve that problem, but
that requires being online at the time of rip.

I sincerely hope I am adopted.

:D

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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Sun Aug 06 2023 08:43 pm

For me, I like the "surprise" element (never knowing which tune
will be next). It keeps the listening experience fresh. I've
simply grown tired of knowing what tune will be next on a
favourite recording.

For more randomness, scramble the bits to get a unique ear bleed!
In all seriousness, I do agree BUT as someone whos Music folder is a unorganized mess of downloaded youtube videos, sound effects, and a few ripped albums i wouldn't trust randomizing it.

Yeah sure.. I would do that for a first-time recording. But
then, I *can* seem to remember the favourite ones by title and
refer to them at any time.

I sometimes have terrible memory when it comes to songs, so I would be checking the booklet a lot. Thankfully, my cd player is broken and my albums are all ripped :)

Is that on a 5-disc CD player or something? That would be
tricky to identify unless one pays attention do the operating
panel for Disc # and track # and take notes - which I would do.

Huh, I didn't know these existed..
Why would they have such a non-standard disk player tho? I'd think they would use the built-in one or a cheap usb player off amazon.

Outch. That's kinda lazy for sure. There are resources like
CDDB built into rippers that ought to solve that problem, but
that requires being online at the time of rip.

Everything is always-online these days, and stuff like VLC is pretty good at auto obtaining metadata from what I've heard.

I sincerely hope I am adopted.

:D

:D

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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Sun Aug 06 2023 08:43 pm

Is that on a 5-disc CD player or something? That would be
tricky to identify unless one pays attention do the operating
panel for Disc # and track # and take notes - which I would do.

Nah, he just rips CDs to mp3 or pirates them from the web, then compresses the songs and puts it all together in a mix CD or a thumb drive or something.

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Re: Mixtapes
By: Arelor to August Abolins on Tue Aug 08 2023 09:54 am

Nah, he just rips CDs to mp3 or pirates them from the web, then compresses

Wow, you have a cool dad if they know how to pirate stuff by themself.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Tuesday 08.08.23 - 09:54, Arelor wrote to August Abolins:

Is that on a 5-disc CD player or something? That would be
tricky to identify unless one pays attention do the
operating panel for Disc # and track # and take notes -
which I would do.

Nah, he just rips CDs to mp3 or pirates them from the web,
then compresses the songs and puts it all together in a mix
CD or a thumb drive or something.

Wow.. then I'm on your side and hope that you are indeed
adopted.

But he must have learned the pirating stuff from you?


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Re: Mixtapes
By: August Abolins to Arelor on Tue Aug 08 2023 07:45 pm

But he must have learned the pirating stuff from you?

I think he showed me how to rip CDs. Then I learnt everything else myself.

Back in those days I was still using Windows (gasp).

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