That's about what I'm doing right now with my setup. The doors have
quit working, and I don't know if it's the software, or something
Microsoft did in a recent update (I suspect it's the latter).

I updated Synchronet about a month ago. I noticed recently that tradewars
js (which is distributed with synchronet) quit working. There are some new door settings in SCFG. I suspect maybe you need to play some with those.

I don't run any DOS doors with synchronet so I am not sure which ones you should try, though.

Mike


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Mike,

I updated Synchronet about a month ago. I noticed recently that
tradewars js (which is distributed with synchronet) quit working.
There are some new door settings in SCFG. I suspect maybe you need to play some with those.

Most of the non-fossil doors are back online. Several others are generating an OVERFLOW (DOORFRAME ERROR 6) ERROR. The documentation said to put in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file (which is a dummy entry for NTVDM under Windows 10 32-bit;
so I guess I'd have to try AUTOEXEC.NT) the statement SET NO87=ON -- it did
not work.

Another Sysop said to copy the sbbsexec files to c:\windows\system32 -- access was denied. I guess I have to reboot into command prompt mode, and
do it.

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Mike Powell on Tue Apr 19 2022 10:33 am

From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_BBS

Mike,

I updated Synchronet about a month ago. I noticed recently that tradewars js (which is distributed with synchronet) quit working.
There are some new door settings in SCFG. I suspect maybe you need to play some with those.

Most of the non-fossil doors are back online. Several others are generating an OVERFLOW (DOORFRAME ERROR 6) ERROR. The documentation said to put in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file (which is a dummy entry for NTVDM under Windows 10 32-bit;
so I guess I'd have to try AUTOEXEC.NT) the statement SET NO87=ON -- it did not work.

okay what doorgames do you have problems with exactly?
you shouldn't have to do any of this.

Another Sysop said to copy the sbbsexec files to c:\windows\system32 -- access was denied. I guess I have to reboot into command prompt mode, and
do it.

no. you right click on cmd.exe and choose run as administrator
then go into your administer command prompt and copy the files.

i'm surprised you have ANY doorgames working on synchronet without copying the fossil to windows\system32


so answer me this:

what operating system?
what doorgames?
what version of synchronet?
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okay what doorgames do you have problems with exactly?
you shouldn't have to do any of this.

Most all of the fossil doors.

no. you right click on cmd.exe and choose run as administrator
then go into your administer command prompt and copy the files.

Tried that...they still don't work. I had to logon locally as I
could not remember the Windows password (I had been using a PIN to
logon). My Microsoft passwords wouldn't work.

i'm surprised you have ANY doorgames working on synchronet without
copying the fossil to windows\system32

I never had that problem before 3.19 was released.

so answer me this:

what operating system?

Windows 10 32-bit. I have a bunch of legacy 16-bit doors that will NOT
run under 64-bit.

what doorgames?

I ran the jsexec install-xtrn.js, and got several doors installed,
but I haven't tested them out. There were some doors that would not
install, so I'll worry about them later.

what version of synchronet?

3.19c (with sbbs_dev and sbbs_run).

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 20 2022 06:06 pm

Tried that...they still don't work. I had to logon locally as I
could not remember the Windows password (I had been using a PIN to
logon). My Microsoft passwords wouldn't work.

i'm surprised you have ANY doorgames working on synchronet without copying the fossil to windows\system32

I never had that problem before 3.19 was released.

so answer me this:

what operating system?

Windows 10 32-bit. I have a bunch of legacy 16-bit doors that will NOT run under 64-bit.

yeah no 16bit doors will run under 64bit unless you use that hacked ntvdm.

why don't you email me at mrodroid at gmail and i'll teamviewer you and check you out while you watch. teamviewer is a program that lets you share your desktop one time. you make a temp pw and it never works again.

I ran the jsexec install-xtrn.js, and got several doors installed,
but I haven't tested them out. There were some doors that would not

those are just javascript doors. there's no 16bit doors. if they dont work, they just have issues from the developers.

Tried that...they still don't work. I had to logon locally as I
could not remember the Windows password (I had been using a PIN to
logon). My Microsoft passwords wouldn't work.

i had that problem too. also it just wouldnt work when it was setup to autologon. so i just reset my password on the microsoft site.


so i can help you sunday, so email me. it wont take that long. i am working 2 jobs so my time is short now.

i'll backup everything before making any changes and you can watch as
i check things out and make changes.
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i had that problem too. also it just wouldnt work when it was setup to autologon. so i just reset my password on the microsoft site.

Tried that, and it wouldn't take it...so I had to logon locally.

so i can help you sunday, so email me. it wont take that long. i am working 2 jobs so my time is short now.

i'll backup everything before making any changes and you can watch as
i check things out and make changes.

Thunderstorms (some severe) are likely in my area Sunday through Monday.
Then I do ham radio traffic nets in the evenings on the same computer the
BBS is on, due to a software issue with Windows 11 on the laptop. But, when storms are in the area, the nets are canceled.

Send an email to me at wx1der at gmail dot com -- I'm in a pattern with
2 days of storms, 2 days of dry weather, and it starts over again.

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 21 2022 04:31 pm

Send an email to me at wx1der at gmail dot com -- I'm in a pattern with
2 days of storms, 2 days of dry weather, and it starts over again.

Daryl

you email me. that way i know you see it when i reply back
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you email me. that way i know you see it when i reply back

Well, I tried an option that Rob Swindell (digital man) suggested.
I changed the dropfile from DOOR.SYS to DORINFO1.DEF, and placed the
dropfile in the door directory. Preliminary testing on 2 of the doors
solved the problem...but, I have a whole slew of other doors to redo.

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Sat Apr 23 2022 09:47 am

From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_BBS

you email me. that way i know you see it when i reply back

Well, I tried an option that Rob Swindell (digital man) suggested.
I changed the dropfile from DOOR.SYS to DORINFO1.DEF, and placed the dropfile in the door directory. Preliminary testing on 2 of the doors
solved the problem...but, I have a whole slew of other doors to redo.

Daryl

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that solution makes no sense. if your doors were working fine before and they didn't why would changing the dropfile fix it.
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that solution makes no sense. if your doors were working fine before
and they didn't why would changing the dropfile fix it.

It may have been a deal with the format of the DOOR.SYS file itself.

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Mon Apr 25 2022 06:18 pm

From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_BBS

that solution makes no sense. if your doors were working fine before and they didn't why would changing the dropfile fix it.

It may have been a deal with the format of the DOOR.SYS file itself.

Daryl

no, it wasn't that.

i'd have to see it to see what the problem is.
you didn't email me so i couldnt take a look.

why dont you zip up your bbs and delete your user file and i'll run it in a vm and see what is happening. synchronet makes backup files of your xtrn section so i can copy that over.

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i'd have to see it to see what the problem is.
you didn't email me so i couldnt take a look.

I never saw your email, so I didn't know where to send it.

i'm curious to see what the problem is and if you want to know i can
find out.

It appears that changing the dropfile from door.sys to dorinfo1.def
solved the problem in most cases. There are a few doors that won't
run at all, so I'm still working on those...but that's not critical.

My main issue now is where the BBS won't run the nightly maintenance batchfile for the doorgames and the message area processing. I can run
it from a scheduling utility, but it does NOT busy out the BBS (where
no one can login while this is done, to avoid corrupting the message
areas, file areas, and doorgames). So, I have to manually take the nodes offline while this runs...which requires being up at midnight (although
if I have thunderstorms in the area at the time, I take care of that
manually once the weather clears, and go to bed early). Then, I have to
be up at 7am to do my vital signs, so I don't get much sleep at night
(I wasn't getting such, anyway...and have to take a power nap).

In short, the batchfile starts, and then immediately exits with error
level 255, without doing anything.

Daryl

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To: Daryl Stout
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 27 2022 07:56 am

From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_BBS

i'd have to see it to see what the problem is.
you didn't email me so i couldnt take a look.

I never saw your email, so I didn't know where to send it.

i'm curious to see what the problem is and if you want to know i can find out.

It appears that changing the dropfile from door.sys to dorinfo1.def
solved the problem in most cases. There are a few doors that won't
run at all, so I'm still working on those...but that's not critical.

My main issue now is where the BBS won't run the nightly maintenance batchfile for the doorgames and the message area processing. I can run
it from a scheduling utility, but it does NOT busy out the BBS (where
no one can login while this is done, to avoid corrupting the message
areas, file areas, and doorgames). So, I have to manually take the nodes offline while this runs...which requires being up at midnight (although
if I have thunderstorms in the area at the time, I take care of that manually once the weather clears, and go to bed early). Then, I have to
be up at 7am to do my vital signs, so I don't get much sleep at night
(I wasn't getting such, anyway...and have to take a power nap).

In short, the batchfile starts, and then immediately exits with error level 255, without doing anything.

but you said before all this stuff was working, right?

there's probably some stuff you did that screwed things up. i have no idea why something would work one time, then stop and then switching your dropfile would work.

like i said, if you zip it up and delete your user.dat i can run it in a VM and really find out the problem. regarding your events not running, rob told you about that and it's because you had your settings wrong. if you have it setup incorrectly those events wont launch.

here's an example of a time event that works.
notice the settings for it. if you change one or two of those settings, it just wont launch.

External Programs | Timed Events |########|+[*][?]--------------------------------------------------------------+|########|| COAST Timed Event ||########||--------------------------------------------------------------------||########|| |Internal Code COAST ||########|| |Start-up Directory c:\temp ||########|| |Command Line coast.bat ||########|| |Enabled Yes ||########+| |Execution Node Any ||#########| |Execution Months Any ||#########| |Execution Days of Month Any ||#########| |Execution Days of Week All ||#########| |Execution Time 22:00 ||#########| |Requires Exclusive Execution No ||#########| |Force Users Off-line For Event No ||#########| |Native Executable/Script Yes ||#########| |Use Shell or New Context Yes ||#########| |Background Execution Yes ||#########| |Always Run After Init/Re-init No ||#########+--------------------------------------------------------------------++

like i said, zip it up and send it to me and i'll run it in a vm when i have time off. i've ran synchronet for over 20 years and i used to be awesome at this bbs stuff. now i only have a handful of the knowledge but i never fail at what i try at so i can probably figure out what your issue is.
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I was about to say the same thing....

-Nugax

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To: nugax
Re: Re: Re: Just a thought
By: nugax to Daryl Stout on Wed Apr 27 2022 04:03 pm

From Newsgroup: Micronet.MIN_BBS

I was about to say the same thing....

-Nugax

say what? you didnt quote the original msg
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here's an example of a time event that works.
notice the settings for it. if you change one or two of those
settings, it just wont launch.

I followed the screenshot, and this time, it worked as it should.

Daryl

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Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Daryl Stout to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 27 2022 07:56 am

It appears that changing the dropfile from door.sys to dorinfo1.def
solved the problem in most cases. There are a few doors that won't
run at all, so I'm still working on those...but that's not critical.

I know I'm replying to an old post, but I just wanted to say I had the same exact problem, with a bunch of old DoorFrame doors (mostly Sunrise doors) not working after I moved my Sync BBS to Windows 10 32-bit. Changing the drop file type froom door.sys to dorinfo#.def ended up the solution for me as well.

No idea WHY it works. But it does.

Thanks for sharing your solution!

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Codefenix wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

No idea WHY it works. But it does.

As a door author since 1998, I can tell you why: there are several intreptations of the DOOR.SYS standard and nearly all of them are wrong. I always recommend using DORINFO1.DEF or DORINFOx.DEF if the door supports it.

I developed my own dropfile format for my doors and tucked it away. I may bring it back as an additional solution for BBS systems that can create
their own dropfiles (Maximus and Telegard come to mind).

-- Sean


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Re: Re: Just a thought
By: digimaus to Codefenix on Mon Jan 30 2023 03:19 pm

As a door author since 1998, I can tell you why: there are several intreptations of the DOOR.SYS standard and nearly all of them are wrong. I always recommend using DORINFO1.DEF or DORINFOx.DEF if the door supports it.

Be that as it may, the issue never surfaced until moving the BBS to Windows 10. It was the same DOOR.SYS file passed to the door program before and after the move.

THAT'S the part that I don't understand.

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To: Codefenix
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Codefenix to digimaus on Mon Jan 30 2023 06:29 pm

As a door author since 1998, I can tell you why: there are several intreptations of the DOOR.SYS standard and nearly all of them are wrong. I always recommend using DORINFO1.DEF or DORINFOx.DEF if the door supports it.

Be that as it may, the issue never surfaced until moving the BBS to Windows 10. It was the same DOOR.SYS file passed to the door program before and after the move.

THAT'S the part that I don't understand.

whats the doorgame? what exactly happened? it could not find the dropfile?
was it only displaying local?

what os did you move FROM?
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Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Jas Hud to Codefenix on Mon Jan 30 2023 06:50 pm

whats the doorgame? what exactly happened? it could not find the dropfile? was it only displaying local?

The first one I noticed had a problem was Legends of Ole, then I realized most of the Sunrise doors had the same problem, and also a few other doors by other authors which used that same DoorFrame door kit.

It wasn't displaying local. It was stopping immediately upon startup. The problem was ERROR 6 and ERROR 53 both reported in the DFRAME.ERR file in the same path as the door EXE. I would get one or the other on startup. Error 53 has to do with a file not being found, so it seemed like the door couldn't find the DOOR.SYS file specified in the CFG file. Error 6 is an overflow error, which I'm not sure what would be causing it.

what os did you move FROM?

Moved from Vista to Windows 10.

Now that you're done laughing at that previous statement, I did also update SBBS from 3.18 to 3.20a at the same time. Something I didn't think about until now is it's possible the newer version of SBBS could be writing the DOOR.SYS file differently now than it did in the older version.

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digimaus wrote to Codefenix <=-

I developed my own dropfile format for my doors and tucked it away. I
may bring it back as an additional solution for BBS systems that can create their own dropfiles (Maximus and Telegard come to mind).

Can always ask Apam to add it to Talisman as well. Currently supports door.sys, chain.txt and door32.sys I think... Maybe dorinfo as well.
He's still active in developing.

Shawn

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To: Codefenix
Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Codefenix to Jas Hud on Tue Jan 31 2023 08:02 am

what os did you move FROM?

Moved from Vista to Windows 10.

Now that you're done laughing at that previous statement, I did also update

yes, i was like wtf vista?!

SBBS from 3.18 to 3.20a at the same time. Something I didn't think about until now is it's possible the newer version of SBBS could be writing the DOOR.SYS file differently now than it did in the older version.

there's a lot of weird shit with 3.20 when you upgrade. rob behaves like the little meme guy who moves his eyes https://i.imgur.com/FJBvYIK.png

my events stopped working because a setting in scfg was changed by synchronet. same thing happened to daryl and other people. no mention of it.
so check to make sure your events are right; make sure the native executable script is toggled correctly.

i've seen that issue with that door library and i've just used dorinfo1.def

i believe it expects the short door.sys. i'm trying to look up the spec for all the different dropfiles but can't find it. i used to have a wiki with all this info but i took it down.
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Re: Re: Just a thought
By: Jas Hud to Codefenix on Tue Jan 31 2023 12:23 pm

yes, i was like wtf vista?!

I used what I had available :) And used it for way too long.

i've seen that issue with that door library and i've just used dorinfo1.def

Agree, seems like the best solution.

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