Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to j0hnny a1pha on Mon Oct 21 2024 11:15 am

For anyone else's benefit, on Synchronet the working command line is:

?rlogin goldminedoors.com:2513 -s [TAG]%a

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases:
"[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.
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?rlogin goldminedoors.com:2513 -s [TAG]%a

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do
something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases:
"[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

Yeah, that's actually the reason why i ended up writing a shell script to
grab the name directly from the drop file, as I have a two-word alias.
I'll add the above to the docs if that's the solution... Cheers.

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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to j0hnny a1pha on Mon Oct 21 2024 11:15 am

For anyone else's benefit, on Synchronet the working command line is:

?rlogin goldminedoors.com:2513 -s [TAG]%a

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases: "[TAG]%A"
- the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes
around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

It does NOT work with multi-word alias, unless the quotes are also used.
Then it gets a little weird... When using the quotes, neither %a nor %A expand to the user's alias, they just show as "%a" or "%A".

Without the quotes, the %a or %A work, but only with a single-word
[TAG].



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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 29 2024 01:46 pm

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases: "[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

It does NOT work with multi-word alias, unless the quotes are also used. Then it gets a little weird... When using the quotes, neither %a nor %A expand to the user's alias, they just show as "%a" or "%A".

Yeah, I'm not surprised. The additional quotes was just an idea, but looking at the source code now, I see there's no special handling of quotes on command-lines within SBBS.

Without the quotes, the %a or %A work, but only with a single-word
[TAG].

Yup, I can see how that'd be the case.
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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Tue Oct 29 2024 01:17 pm

Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 29 2024 01:46 pm

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases: "[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

It does NOT work with multi-word alias, unless the quotes are also used. Then it gets a little weird... When using the quotes, neither %a nor %A expand to the user's alias, they just show as "%a" or "%A".

Yeah, I'm not surprised. The additional quotes was just an idea, but looking at the source code now, I see there's no special handling of quotes on command-lines within SBBS.

Actually, I take that back, there is, so I would expect something like "-s[TAG]%A" to work as you intend.

Without the quotes, the %a or %A work, but only with a single-word
[TAG].

Yup, I can see how that'd be the case.

I just committed a trivial update to rlogin.js that'll allow you to specify the -s (or -c) option multiple times to build up the auth string, e.g.

?rlogin server -s[TAG] -s %a

But the other way (with the quotes and no spaces) should work too.
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Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases: "[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

It does NOT work with multi-word alias, unless the quotes are also used. Then it gets a little weird... When using the quotes, neither %a nor %A expand to the user's alias, they just show as "%a" or "%A".

Yeah, I'm not surprised. The additional quotes was just an idea, but looking at the source code now, I see there's no special handling of quotes on command-lines within SBBS.

Actually, I take that back, there is, so I would expect something like "-s[TAG]%A" to work as you intend.

It does, but see below...

Without the quotes, the %a or %A work, but only with a single-word
[TAG].

Yup, I can see how that'd be the case.

I just committed a trivial update to rlogin.js that'll allow you to specify the -s (or -c) option multiple times to build up the auth
string, e.g.

?rlogin server -s[TAG] -s %a

But the other way (with the quotes and no spaces) should work too.

Thanks for the update. Both ways do indeed work now, with this
difference:

If I define either of those methods as the command line for my external event/door, it works as expected, and produces this output on the
Goldmine site as the current user: [PAL]Gamgee

If I run either of those command lines while sitting at a prompt on my
BBS, using the ;EXEC command and then typing the command line, I get
this output on the site: [PAL]%A

So for some reason the alias variable is not being evaluated when run "manually".

Is the case of the %a or %A significant? Both show as "%A" on the
output if that means anything.

Thanks!



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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 29 2024 08:31 pm

Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

Does that work with multi-word user aliases? You might have to do something like this to be compatible with multi-word aliases: "[TAG]%A" - the capitalize the 'A' to prevent the auto-quoting and add quotes around the entire name with the [TAG] part.

It does NOT work with multi-word alias, unless the quotes are also used. Then it gets a little weird... When using the quotes, neither %a nor %A expand to the user's alias, they just show as "%a" or "%A".

Yeah, I'm not surprised. The additional quotes was just an idea, but looking at the source code now, I see there's no special handling of quotes on command-lines within SBBS.

Actually, I take that back, there is, so I would expect something like "-s[TAG]%A" to work as you intend.

It does, but see below...

Without the quotes, the %a or %A work, but only with a single-word [TAG].

Yup, I can see how that'd be the case.

I just committed a trivial update to rlogin.js that'll allow you to specify the -s (or -c) option multiple times to build up the auth string, e.g.

?rlogin server -s[TAG] -s %a

But the other way (with the quotes and no spaces) should work too.

Thanks for the update. Both ways do indeed work now, with this
difference:

If I define either of those methods as the command line for my external event/door, it works as expected, and produces this output on the
Goldmine site as the current user: [PAL]Gamgee

If I run either of those command lines while sitting at a prompt on my
BBS, using the ;EXEC command and then typing the command line, I get
this output on the site: [PAL]%A

That's expected. I just committed a trivial change to str_cmds.js so that it *will* now expand command-line specifiers that you pass on the command-line using the ;exec sysop command, so that should work if you update.

So for some reason the alias variable is not being evaluated when run "manually".

Is the case of the %a or %A significant? Both show as "%A" on the
output if that means anything.

It sounds like you're using a command shell that is converting the input to all-caps. Here's how it works for me using default.js and the updated str_cmds.js (and demonstrates the difference between %a and %A):

þ Main þ 0:07:22 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %a
argc = 1
argv[0] = 'Digital Man'

þ Main þ 0:07:56 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %A
argc = 2
argv[0] = 'Digital'
argv[1] = 'Man'

showargs.js is just this (for test/demo purposes):
print("argc = " + argc);
for(i=0;i<argv.length;i++)
printf("argv[%d] = '%s'\r\n",i,argv[i].toString());
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Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

If I define either of those methods as the command line for my external event/door, it works as expected, and produces this output on the
Goldmine site as the current user: [PAL]Gamgee

If I run either of those command lines while sitting at a prompt on my
BBS, using the ;EXEC command and then typing the command line, I get
this output on the site: [PAL]%A

That's expected. I just committed a trivial change to str_cmds.js so
that it *will* now expand command-line specifiers that you pass on the command-line using the ;exec sysop command, so that should work if you update.

OK, cool, thank you.

So for some reason the alias variable is not being evaluated when run "manually".

Is the case of the %a or %A significant? Both show as "%A" on the
output if that means anything.

It sounds like you're using a command shell that is converting the
input to all-caps. Here's how it works for me using default.js and the updated str_cmds.js (and demonstrates the difference between %a and
%A):

= Main = 0:07:22 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %a
argc = 1
argv[0] = 'Digital Man'

= Main = 0:07:56 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %A
argc = 2
argv[0] = 'Digital'
argv[1] = 'Man'

showargs.js is just this (for test/demo purposes):
print("argc = " + argc);
for(i=0;i<argv.length;i++)
printf("argv[%d] = '%s'\r\n",i,argv[i].toString());

Ahhh, OK, thank you again. For a single-word alias I'll just use the lowercase one then.

As for my command shell, it is a modified form of default.bin (src).
The only changes though are that some commands have been disabled, and
some modified to use the DDMsgReader/DDAreaChooser mods. No changes
made to anything related to case/caps. The display on the remote
website that always showed the capitalized "A" might have been something
on that end, I would guess. Anyhow, things are all good now with the
command line for opening that game server door. Appreciate it.



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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Wed Oct 30 2024 10:46 am

Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-

If I define either of those methods as the command line for my external event/door, it works as expected, and produces this output on the Goldmine site as the current user: [PAL]Gamgee

If I run either of those command lines while sitting at a prompt on my BBS, using the ;EXEC command and then typing the command line, I get
this output on the site: [PAL]%A

That's expected. I just committed a trivial change to str_cmds.js so that it *will* now expand command-line specifiers that you pass on the command-line using the ;exec sysop command, so that should work if you update.

OK, cool, thank you.

So for some reason the alias variable is not being evaluated when run "manually".

Is the case of the %a or %A significant? Both show as "%A" on the
output if that means anything.

It sounds like you're using a command shell that is converting the input to all-caps. Here's how it works for me using default.js and the updated str_cmds.js (and demonstrates the difference between %a and %A):

= Main = 0:07:22 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %a
argc = 1
argv[0] = 'Digital Man'

= Main = 0:07:56 [4] fsxNet [11] FSX BBS: ;exec
Command-line: ?showargs %A
argc = 2
argv[0] = 'Digital'
argv[1] = 'Man'

showargs.js is just this (for test/demo purposes):
print("argc = " + argc);
for(i=0;i<argv.length;i++)
printf("argv[%d] = '%s'\r\n",i,argv[i].toString());

Ahhh, OK, thank you again. For a single-word alias I'll just use the lowercase one then.

I gave you 2 solutions, one using %A and one using %a:

?rlogin somehost "-s[TAG]%A"
and
?rlogin somehost -s [TAG] -s %a

Hopefully you'd use the same solution (pick one, either should work) for all aliases, regardless of how many words are in the alias.

As for my command shell, it is a modified form of default.bin (src).
The only changes though are that some commands have been disabled, and
some modified to use the DDMsgReader/DDAreaChooser mods. No changes
made to anything related to case/caps.

Old versions of default.src converted string input (after the ;) to uppercase. That was changed (to leave original case) 4 years ago:
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/d62930c3107a9cc15a5aa83e4a6a

Your modified copy of default.src must be at least 4 years old in that case.

If you just type ";EXEC" and hit enter, it should prompt you for the command to execute and allow lowercase input.

The display on the remote
website that always showed the capitalized "A" might have been something
on that end, I would guess.

We're talking about terminal, not website, but no, it has to do with your command shell.

Anyhow, things are all good now with the
command line for opening that game server door. Appreciate it.

Cool. And in the future, you'll find quicker, more accurate answers to Synchronet support questions in the official support channels.
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No, I am on Linux.

Okay, but I doubt anyone else is doing that, and they have a [TAG]
displayed in front of their Username. Just wondering why mine isn't
working, and what other (Synchronet) users are using for their command line...

Is the [TAG] importaint in some way? Do you care if it's included in
the user's login?

Thanks.

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I am trying to set up a connection with goldmine bbs doors. I need to know if it is run from a batch file or do i just put this string ?rlogin 143.198.58.173:2513 -p in the command line of the door execution section of scfg? Does it launch like a door? with a batch file or does it run like bbs link of doorparty? Do i need any extra scripts to connect. no matter which way i work it I get an 's' value not defined. I would like to connect. I love these inter BBS games a lot.

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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Errol Casey to All on Sat Aug 03 2024 12:48 am

Hello Errol (and anyone else)... The above command line gets me to the main menu of the door server, but the %A part doesn't put in the username. It just displays the "current gamer" as [tag]%A. The %A isn't being "expanded" to a user name. Can you check/clarify that?

I'm able to get to the main menu just fine, and play the doors, with just the command line:

?rlogin 143.198.58.173:2513 -p

But... this doesn't show the [tag] in front of the user name displayed. I'm not sure how important that is, but it seems that most others who are logging in have that working. So, what command line are you Synchronet BBS operators using to connect to the Gold Mine server?

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Are you launching this from the scfg command line? do i need to select a door type and run a batch file? Is there anything to add to any of .ini files like modopts.ini for example? What does the scfg page setup for look like?

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Are you launching this from the scfg command line? do i need to select
a door
type and run a batch file? Is there anything to add to any of .ini
files like
modopts.ini for example? What does the scfg page setup for look like?

Just set it up like any External Program for SBBS. In scfg:

External Programs > Online Programs > [Section] > [Name]

And use the "?rlogin" Command Line that Digital Man specified in a
previous message w/Gamgee.

Native Executable Script = Yes
Use Shell or New Context = Yes

I'll put a screen shot on the web site tomorrow if that helps!

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No, I am on Linux.

Okay, but I doubt anyone else is doing that, and they have a [TAG]
displayed in front of their Username. Just wondering why mine isn't
working, and what other (Synchronet) users are using for their command line...

I am running synchronet 3.19b and when i try this command i get Javascript rlogin.js line 7:reference error: P is not defined.

are there changes somewhere else I need to make? to define the s and p values? In the scfg what are the settings for startup directory and using native executables and such. I tried using the other command string in the scfg rlogin.js 143.198.58.173:2513 -s [TLB]%A -c %A -q and i get similar error messages that q or a is not defined. Where do i define them?


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Just set it up like any External Program for SBBS. In scfg:

External Programs > Online Programs > [Section] > [Name]

And use the "?rlogin" Command Line that Digital Man specified in a
previous message w/Gamgee.

Native Executable Script = Yes
Use Shell or New Context = Yes

I'll put a screen shot on the web site tomorrow if that helps!

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that would be great thank you. No matter what i do I get a lot of undefined value errors so I am guessing there is something i need to update in rlogin.js? s is not defined, a is not defined, p is not defined. Where do I define them? Thanks for writing back. What is the startup directory in scfg as well what door file type do i pick? or do I? lol.

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that would be great thank you. No matter what i do I get a lot of
undefined
value errors so I am guessing there is something i need to update in rlogin.js?
s is not defined, a is not defined, p is not defined. Where do I
define them?

Here's the refernce for the ?rlogin command:

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

important ?rlogin switches are:
-p (which sends user alias & pw in the order Gold Mine expects)
-q (optional, quiet mode, e.g. no banner or pause prompt)
-t (optional, allows you to send a direct launch XTRN code, like -t
xtrn=MRC)

./scfg is located in the exec/ dir, so probably sbbs/exec.
Direct launch codes are listed at goldminebbs.com.

Cheers!

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Here's the refernce for the ?rlogin command:

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

important ?rlogin switches are:
-p (which sends user alias & pw in the order Gold Mine expects)
-q (optional, quiet mode, e.g. no banner or pause prompt)
-t (optional, allows you to send a direct launch XTRN code, like -t
xtrn=MRC)

./scfg is located in the exec/ dir, so probably sbbs/exec.
Direct launch codes are listed at goldminebbs.com.

Cheers!

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thank you!

I cannot use any -x (pipe commands without getting errors) so i just left them out and used this line
?rlogin.js 143.198.58.173:2513 only and now my callers can get to your bbs. I just experimented with and without combinations of pipes and all -s -a [AAA] additions caused errors. so just using ?rlogin.js 143.198.58.173:2513 works great
Thanks and have a great day. I put a notice on my BBS to direct my callers there. I hope to spend a lot of time enjoying the Goldmine! Have great day. Rixter

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Here's the refernce for the ?rlogin command:

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

important ?rlogin switches are:
-p (which sends user alias & pw in the order Gold Mine expects)
-q (optional, quiet mode, e.g. no banner or pause prompt)
-t (optional, allows you to send a direct launch XTRN code, like -t xtrn=MRC)

./scfg is located in the exec/ dir, so probably sbbs/exec.
Direct launch codes are listed at goldminebbs.com.

This looks very cool. Going to give it a go this weekend!

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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Gamgee on Fri Nov 08 2024 08:24 am

No, I am on Linux.

Okay, but I doubt anyone else is doing that, and they have a [TAG] displayed in front of their Username. Just wondering why mine isn't working, and what other (Synchronet) users are using for their command line...

I am running synchronet 3.19b and when i try this command i get Javascript rlogin.js line 7:reference error: P is not defined.

You're just running an old rlogin.js.

are there changes somewhere else I need to make? to define the s and p values? In the scfg what are the settings for startup directory

The startup directory doesn't matter (has no impact) when running .js scripts from SBBS.

and using
native executables and such. I tried using the other command string in the scfg rlogin.js 143.198.58.173:2513 -s [TLB]%A -c %A -q and i get similar error messages that q or a is not defined. Where do i define them?

You don't define them, the script defines them. I'm not sure why you have multiple %A values on that command-line. That doesn't look right.
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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Nov 08 2024 08:27 am

that would be great thank you. No matter what i do I get a lot of undefined value errors so I am guessing there is something i need to update in rlogin.js? s is not defined, a is not defined, p is not defined. Where do I define them? Thanks for writing back. What is the startup directory in scfg as well what door file type do i pick? or do I? lol.

You don't define them, the script defines them. You need an updated version of the scrit. And the startup directory and "door file type" don't matter (aren't used) for JS scripts.
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Here's the refernce for the ?rlogin command:

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

important ?rlogin switches are:
-p (which sends user alias & pw in the order Gold Mine expects)
-q (optional, quiet mode, e.g. no banner or pause prompt)
-t (optional, allows you to send a direct launch XTRN code, like -t xtrn=MRC)

./scfg is located in the exec/ dir, so probably sbbs/exec.
Direct launch codes are listed at goldminebbs.com.

This looks very cool. Going to give it a go this weekend!

Set this up the morning. Easypeasy stuff. Thanks for the info!

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Re: Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Gamgee on Fri Nov 08 2024 08:24 am

You're just running an old rlogin.js.

The startup directory doesn't matter (has no impact) when running .js scripts from SBBS.

You don't define them, the script defines them. I'm not sure why you have multiple %A values on that command-line. That doesn't look right.
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Thank you for all that you do for us Rob!

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
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Here's the refernce for the ?rlogin command:

https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin

important ?rlogin switches are:
-p (which sends user alias & pw in the order Gold Mine expects)
-q (optional, quiet mode, e.g. no banner or pause prompt)
-t (optional, allows you to send a direct launch XTRN code, like -t
xtrn=MRC)

./scfg is located in the exec/ dir, so probably sbbs/exec.
Direct launch codes are listed at goldminebbs.com.

Cheers!

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Thanks for all your help my guys on my BBS can get to your game server just fine now but most of the games when selected sent the user back to the select a game menu on your server instead of launching the game. NOT ALL of them just some of them. Any ideas why?
We are having fun in my small community reaching out to other BBS's this way. Thank you.
Ricky (Rixter)

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Nov 08 2024 08:27 am

You don't define them, the script defines them. You need an updated version of the scrit. And the startup directory and "door file type" don't matter (aren't used) for JS scripts.
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Breaking Bad quote #32:
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Where do I obtain a more current version of rlogin.js? Thank you so much for helping me out so much.
Rixter

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Gamgee to Errol Casey on Tue Oct 15 2024 09:40 pm

I believe it is working for me; I think I may also have -q on my command line now.

Just logged in and my tag is displayed in front of my user name. At top
of menu on Gold Mine.

I know there was working rlogin to add some arguments, so don't know if I have a later version of the rlogin.js I keep things pretty updated.

Aug 17 th is the date on my rlogin module.
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toolazy.synchro.net:2323 (telnet)
https://toolazy.synchro.net
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Errol,
Do you notice that when you try to open some of the doors on the Goldmine that the door does not open but instead goes back to the door selection menu on the goldmine? I tried it on your BBS tonight and noticed it does the same thing on my BBS. I had one of my callers point this out to me. I hope you are doing well. Let me know if you noticed this too.

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Ricks BBS - ricksbbs.synchro.net (21:1/242)

Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Errol Casey on Wed Nov 13 2024 06:51 pm

Errol,
Do you notice that when you try to open some of the doors on the Goldmine that the door does not open but instead goes back to the door selection menu on the goldmine? I tried it on your BBS tonight and noticed it does the same thing on my BBS. I had one of my callers point this out to me. I hope you are doing well. Let me know if you noticed this too.

I did see it on area 2 game 2 I believe. So i does happen from my bbs also.

So probably need to inquire with the maintainer of Gold Mine. No certain if he monitors this echo or not; have so many I cannot recall which I have seen him in recently.

I'll check my emails, and if I have his email will email him directly.
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toolazy.synchro.net:2323 (telnet)
https://toolazy.synchro.net
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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Errol Casey on Wed Nov 13 2024 06:51 pm

I did see it on area 2 game 2 I believe. So i does happen from my bbs also.

So probably need to inquire with the maintainer of Gold Mine. No certain if he monitors this echo or not; have so many I cannot recall which I have seen him in recently.

I'll check my emails, and if I have his email will email him directly.
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toolazy.synchro.net:22 (ssh)
toolazy.synchro.net:2323 (telnet)
https://toolazy.synchro.net
--- SBBSecho 3.21-Linux
* Origin: Too Lazy BBS - toolazy.synchro.net:2323 (21:1/182)

All seems to be working fine now. Thanks

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Ricks BBS - ricksbbs.synchro.net (21:1/242)

Thanks for all your help my guys on my BBS can get to your game server
just
fine now but most of the games when selected sent the user back to the select a
game menu on your server instead of launching the game. NOT ALL of
them just
some of them. Any ideas why?
We are having fun in my small community reaching out to other BBS's
this way.
Thank you.
Ricky (Rixter)

Let's triage! Can you remember which were working, and which were not?
And what door codes you are using? You can also reach me on Netmail.


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--- Talisman v0.54-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: Space Junk! BBS :: SpaceJunkBBS.com:2323 (21:4/158)

Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Errol Casey on Wed Nov 13 2024 06:51 pm

I did see it on area 2 game 2 I believe. So i does happen from my

bbs also.

So probably need to inquire with the maintainer of Gold Mine. No

certain if

he monitors this echo or not; have so many I cannot recall which I

have seen

him in recently.

I am noticing a bunch of malformed BBS Tag coming through, that may have something to do with it, these users may be coming from the same BBS and
the connection details from RLOGIN are not being passed properly:

Ty Holder ???
Beth Martin ???
Rick Sutphin ???


|07|02/|10\|03/ |11j0hnny a1pha |03\|10/|02\|07


--- Talisman v0.54-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: Space Junk! BBS :: SpaceJunkBBS.com:2323 (21:4/158)

I am noticing a bunch of malformed BBS Tag coming through, that may have something to do with it, these users may be coming from the same BBS and
the connection details from RLOGIN are not being passed properly:

Hi,
They look like callers from my bbs. I am Rixter-ricky sutphin. Every thing is working great now. Thanks! I cannot use the [tag] option because anything after the port number in the launch command comes back to me as undefined and it terminates the connection with goldmine. My version of r login doesn’t allow tag or -a -p -etc command pipe. They are all undefined. Previously about half the doors on the gold mine would just not open and would instantly go back to the goldmine door menu. Now they all work. Thanks. Every thing is ok now. We are able to enjoy your games again.
-Rixter

Ty Holder ???
Beth Martin ???
Rick Sutphin ???

|07|02/|10\|03/ |11j0hnny a1pha |03\|10/|02\|07

--- Talisman v0.54-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: Space Junk! BBS :: SpaceJunkBBS.com:2323 (21:4/158)

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Ricks BBS - ricksbbs.synchro.net (21:1/242)

I am noticing a bunch of malformed BBS Tag coming through, that may have something to do with it, these users may be coming from the same BBS and the connection details from RLOGIN are not being passed properly:

Hi,
They look like callers from my bbs. I am Rixter-ricky sutphin. Every thing is
working great now. Thanks! I cannot use the [tag] option because anything after
the port number in the launch command comes back to me as undefined and it terminates the connection with goldmine. My version of r login doesn’t allow
tag or -a -p -etc command pipe. They are all undefined. Previously about half
the doors on the gold mine would just not open and would instantly go back to
the goldmine door menu. Now they all work. Thanks. Every thing is ok now. We are able to enjoy your games again.
-Rixter

Ty Holder ???
Beth Martin ???
Rick Sutphin ???

Try "xtrn=" in lower case. I've noticed that perhaps something may have changed in a recent commit - not 100% sure but changing everything to lower case when passing this seems to work. I'll dig in more!



--- Noddy git-4716e54
* Origin: Space Junk! BBS :: SpaceJunkBBS.com:2323 (21:4/158)

Try "xtrn=" in lower case. I've noticed that perhaps something may
have changed in a recent commit - not 100% sure but changing
everything to lower case when passing this seems to work. I'll dig in

FYI, nothing has changed in Synchronet. looking at the docs, it's always
been lower case "xtrn=". I'm running the latest pull from the repo and
it's all working as expected.

I think the biggest stumbling point for setting up GM is if you don't have
a BBS built-in menu action that provides rlogin, and you need to use a
shell script or door. Windows has the excellent RMDOOR with Rlogin mode
(WWIV, Renegade, etc.). Linux has old insecure RLOGIN or
rsh-redone-client, which i find a bit wonky.

Doing more testing on a custom/native linux connector, hope to make that available in usable form soon so it's an out-of-the-box experience,
end-to-end.


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--- Talisman v0.54-dev (Linux/x86_64)
* Origin: Space Junk! BBS :: SpaceJunkBBS.com:2323 (21:4/158)

Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Digital Man on Wed Nov 13 2024 06:49 pm

Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to j0hnny a1pha on Fri Nov 08 2024 08:27 am

You don't define them, the script defines them. You need an updated version of the scrit. And the startup directory and "door file type" don't matter (aren't used) for JS scripts.

Where do I obtain a more current version of rlogin.js? Thank you so much for helping me out so much.

The same place you get/got Synchronet. If you want *just* that file, you can download it from gitlab.synchro.net.
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Re: GoldMine - Connecting from Synchronet BBS
By: Rixter to Digital Man on Wed Nov 13 2024 06:49 pm

The same place you get/got Synchronet. If you want *just* that file, you can download it from gitlab.synchro.net.
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Breaking Bad quote #38:
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I downloaded synchronet319b from another BBS not from some git thingy, but thanks for the information. It is funny to see the word git, my folks were english and the word 'git' meant something derrogatory. LOL. I am imagining a lab full of gits now. I still chuckle when I see you guys typing it out. Have a good day Rob. Everything seems to be working fine without changing it. I might still try to get me a current copy of it anyway. You guys are awesome.
Rixter

telnet://ricksbbs.synchro.net:23
http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
--- SBBSecho 3.14-Win32
* Origin: Ricks BBS - ricksbbs.synchro.net (21:1/242)

I downloaded synchronet319b from another BBS not from some git thingy, but thanks for the information. It is funny to see the word git, my folks were english and the word 'git' meant something derrogatory. LOL. I am imagining a
lab full of gits now. I still chuckle when I see you guys typing it out. Have a
good day Rob. Everything seems to be working fine without changing it. I might
still try to get me a current copy of it anyway. You guys are awesome.

Someone else will probably remember the name of the git.. but git the source code manager was written because someone copied perforce (a proprietary source code management tool that Linus was using for the Linux kernel, on the condition no one made a opensource free version of it) I think it was the guy of samba fame? that did it, but perforce got mad and Linus put together git in a hurry to replace it - I think it was called git because of the guy who made the opensource perforce tool.

My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but I think that was what happened.. a google search would probably correct me :P

Andrew

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Someone else will probably remember the name of the git.. but git the source code manager was written because someone copied perforce (a proprietary source code management tool that Linus was using for the Linux kernel, on the condition no one made a opensource free version of it) I think it was the guy of samba fame? that did it, but perforce got mad and Linus put together git in a hurry to replace it - I think it was called git because of the guy who made the opensource perforce tool.

My memory isn't as good as it used to be, but I think that was what happened.. a google search would probably correct me :P

Andrew

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Thank you apam.

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http://ricksbbs.synchro.net:8080
Madison,NC
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