This is being reported as true, but is it? Of course not. However, like many falsehoods, there is a small kernel of truth if you look hard enough.

Is the Biden administration considering paying $450,000 each to certain
illegal immigrants? Yes, but it's not finalized, and Biden is not 100% happy with the payouts being that large.

The specific immigrants are some of those whose families were separated under Trump's "zero tolerance" border policy. Some are indeed illegal immigrants, while others are people who properly followed the rules and procedures for seeking asylum in the US. It is not all of those affected; only those who
have entered into a lawsuit against the US.

The $450,000 per family member is being considered as a settlement amount. If the US were to lose in court, the final payout of taxpayer dollars would
almost certainly be much larger.

So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying $450,000 each to some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's muckups.

Jeff.

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The specific immigrants are some of those whose families were separated under Trump's "zero tolerance" border policy. Some are indeed illegal immigrants, while others are people who properly followed the rules and procedures for seeking asylum in the US. It is not all of those affected; only those who have entered into a lawsuit against the US.

What about the ones separated under Obama or before? I don't think we
should be giving any of them money, but giving out money only to families separated by the Bad Orange Man doesn't seem fair to the others.

Sounds more like a political ploy to buy future votes. Biden will need all
the help he can get.


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On 12 Nov 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

The specific immigrants are some of those whose families were separated Trump's "zero tolerance" border policy. Some are indeed illegal immigran while others are people who properly followed the rules and procedures f seeking asylum in the US. It is not all of those affected; only those wh have entered into a lawsuit against the US.

What about the ones separated under Obama or before? I don't think we should be giving any of them money, but giving out money only to families separated by the Bad Orange Man doesn't seem fair to the others.

Families were not separated under Obama. That was purely a Trump thing, part
of his "zero tolerance" border policy. Under Obama and before, families were kept together.

Jeff.

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On 12 Nov 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

The specific immigrants are some of those whose families were separated Trump's "zero tolerance" border policy. Some are indeed illegal immigran while others are people who properly followed the rules and procedures f seeking asylum in the US. It is not all of those affected; only those wh have entered into a lawsuit against the US.

What about the ones separated under Obama or before? I don't think we should be giving any of them money, but giving out money only to families separated by the Bad Orange Man doesn't seem fair to the others.

You might be confusing two separate policies. The Obama administration did detain children, but that was because the children had arrived without
parents or guardians. They were "unaccompanied minors." Due to the 1997 Flores Agreement, the Obama administration would release families with children, detaining none of them.

The Trump administration also detained unaccompanied minors, but also began
the practice of separating minors from their parents in violation of the
Flores Agreement and detaining them separately. AG Jeff Sessions famously
said, "We need to take away children," and the DOJ Office of Inspector
General found that "the Department's single-minded focus on increasing immigration prosecutions came at the expense of careful and appropriate consideration of the impact of family unit prosecutions and child
separations." They also found that "DOJ officials were aware of many of these challenges prior to issuing the zero tolerance policy, but they did not
attempt to address them until after the policy was issued."

So yeah, 100% Trump's doing.

Sounds more like a political ploy to buy future votes. Biden will need all the help he can get.

Hardly. As I mentioned before, it is in relation to settlements being considered for an existing lawsuit. Kinda quick to push that "conspiracy theory" button, though, aren't you?

Jeff.

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So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying $450,000 each to some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's muckups.

What about those seperated under Obama's regime? Will they get a settlement too?

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On 12 Nov 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying $450,000 each some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's muckups.

What about those seperated under Obama's regime? Will they get a settlement too?

The Obama administration did not separate families at the border. That was
100% Trump.

Jeff.

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So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying $450,000 some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's muckups.

What about those seperated under Obama's regime? Will they get a settlement too?

The Obama administration did not separate families at the border. That
was 100% Trump.

They seperated em, but it wasn't part of a Zero Tolerance policy. Under Obama, children were seperated from their captors on a case-by-case basis. Under Trump, child captors were seperated by policy. Under Biden, captors are free
to kidnap and smuggle as many children as they want.

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On 15 Nov 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying $450 some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's muckup

What about those seperated under Obama's regime? Will they get a settlement too?

The Obama administration did not separate families at the border. Tha was 100% Trump.

They seperated em, but it wasn't part of a Zero Tolerance policy. Under Obama, children were seperated from their captors on a case-by-case
basis. Under Trump, child captors were seperated by policy. Under Biden, captors are free to kidnap and smuggle as many children as they want.

You are calling parents and legal guardians "captors" now? Only children
and their families who were separated from each other are party to the
lawsuit.

Jeff.

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Hello Aaron,

So, the truth is that yes, Biden is considering paying

$450,000

some illegal immigrants, but only to pay for Trump's

muckups.

What about those seperated under Obama's regime? Will they get a
settlement too?

The Obama administration did not separate families at the border. That
was 100% Trump.

They seperated em, but it wasn't part of a Zero Tolerance policy.

The Zero Tolerance Policy was 100% Trump (and his AG lackey,
Jeff Sessions). Nothing to do with Obama or his policies.

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