Hello, All!

Do you know of any gate used to to send private emails to fidonet adresses?

Ghil.
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Re: Sending email to a fidonet (netmail) address?
By: Ghil Zvidgzul to All on Wed Dec 22 2021 01:02 pm

Hello, All!

Do you know of any gate used to to send private emails to fidonet adresses?

Most Fido-connected Synchronet systems support SMTP->FTN gating: <name>@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet
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Hello, Rob!

Do you know of any gate used to to send private emails to fidonet
adresses?

Most Fido-connected Synchronet systems support SMTP->FTN gating: <name>@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet

The question remains: how do I send an email from my gmail address to 1:103/705 ?
I tried to send an email to: Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org
And got an error from Mail Delivery Subsystem:
"Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org because the domain f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again."

Ghil.

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Hello Ghil Zvidgzul!

** On Thursday 23.12.21 - 07:44, Ghil Zvidgzul wrote to Rob Swindell:

Most Fido-connected Synchronet systems support SMTP->FTN gating:
<name>@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet

The question remains: how do I send an email from my gmail address to 1:103/705 ? I tried to send an email to: Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org And got an error from Mail Delivery Subsystem: "Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org because the domain f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again."

Try replacing .org with .fi

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Re: Re: Sending email to a fidonet (netmail) address?
By: Ghil Zvidgzul to Rob Swindell on Thu Dec 23 2021 07:44 am

Hello, Rob!

Do you know of any gate used to to send private emails to fidonet
adresses?

Most Fido-connected Synchronet systems support SMTP->FTN gating: <name>@f<node>.n<net>.z<zone>.fidonet

The question remains: how do I send an email from my gmail address to 1:103/705 ?
I tried to send an email to: Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org
And got an error from Mail Delivery Subsystem:
"Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org because the domain f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org couldn't be found. Check for typos or unnecessary spaces and try again."

Firstly, you'd have to connect to a Synchronet SMTP server (e.g. mail.synchro.net) when sending the mail message. Secondly, it's ".fidonet" not ".fidonet.org".

http://wiki.synchro.net/server:mail#special_addresses
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Hello, August!

The question remains: how do I send an email from my gmail
address to
1:103/705 ? I tried to send an email to:
Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org And got an error from Mail
Delivery
Subsystem: "Address not found
Your message wasn't delivered to
Rob.Swindell@f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org because the domain
f705.n103.z2.fidonet.org couldn't be found. Check for typos or
unnecessary spaces and try again."

Try replacing .org with .fi

I did that. I tried from my gmail account via the web browser and also from an OE type mail client using smtp.gmail.com. Both times I got the same error from MAILER-DAEMON@mx9.tkk.iki.fi : "Failed to deliver to '<Ghil.Zvidgzul@p117.f1081.n5030.z2.fidonet.fi>'
LOCAL module(account vsoup10) reports:
Plain text messages only to the fidonet gateway. Sorry. :("

Is my gmail account and also my email client somehow converting my simple text message with Subject "test" and body "test" into html format?

Ghil.
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Hello, Rob!

Firstly, you'd have to connect to a Synchronet SMTP server (e.g. mail.synchro.net) when sending the mail message. Secondly, it's
".fidonet" not ".fidonet.org".

I wanted to send an email from my own gmail account using smtp.gmail.com. A long time ago I remember it worked with fidonet.org. The gate isn't working anymore :(
Ghil.
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Hello, August!

Try replacing .org with .fi

Thanks.
It works!
For it to work when "Create Email" from my mail client is to select Format->Plain Text. Because "Rich Text (HTML)" was selected by default.

Ghil.
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Re: Re: Sending email to a fidonet (netmail) address?
By: Ghil Zvidgzul to Rob Swindell on Wed Dec 29 2021 09:32 am

Hello, Rob!

Firstly, you'd have to connect to a Synchronet SMTP server (e.g. mail.synchro.net) when sending the mail message. Secondly, it's ".fidonet" not ".fidonet.org".

I wanted to send an email from my own gmail account using smtp.gmail.com. A long time ago I remember it worked with fidonet.org. The gate isn't working anymore :(

No, I don't know of a generic gateway like fidonet.org used to provide being available today.
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Hello Ghil Zvidgzul!

** On Wednesday 29.12.21 - 09:28, Ghil Zvidgzul wrote to August Abolins:

Try replacing .org with .fi

I did that. I tried from my gmail account via the web
browser and also from an OE type mail client using
smtp.gmail.com. Both times I got the same error from MAILER-DAEMON@mx9.tkk.iki.fi : "Failed to deliver to '<Ghil.Zvidgzul@p117.f1081.n5030.z2.fidonet.fi>' LOCAL
module(account vsoup10) reports: Plain text messages only
to the fidonet gateway. Sorry. :("

I just tried it with gmail to my point address too. I thought
that I set it plain-text the edit window, but the message came
back with the same "Failed.." message. On my next test, I made
sure I could see the checkmark next to "plain-text" in the
editing panel. I sent that out, no "Failed.." message, but I
haven't seen the result yet.

Just tested one from Outlook. We'll see.

Is my gmail account and also my email client somehow
converting my simple text message with Subject "test" and
body "test" into html format?

Gmail might be adding something! Let's give the process at
least a good 30 minutes to work.
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Hello Ghil Zvidgzul!

** On Wednesday 29.12.21 - 09:59, Ghil Zvidgzul wrote to August Abolins:

Hello, August!

Try replacing .org with .fi

Thanks.
It works!
For it to work when "Create Email" from my mail client is
to select Format->Plain Text. Because "Rich Text (HTML)"
was selected by default.

Right.. I should have mentioned that plain-text was a
prerequisite. Did you get a good result using Gmail?

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Hello, August!

Right.. I should have mentioned that plain-text was a
prerequisite. Did you get a good result using Gmail?

It works!

Ghil
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Hello August.

29 Dec 21 19:31, you wrote to Ghil Zvidgzul:

Hello Ghil Zvidgzul!

** On Wednesday 29.12.21 - 09:59, Ghil Zvidgzul wrote to August
Abolins:

Hello, August!

Try replacing .org with .fi

Thanks.
It works!
For it to work when "Create Email" from my mail client is
to select Format->Plain Text. Because "Rich Text (HTML)"
was selected by default.

Right.. I should have mentioned that plain-text was a
prerequisite. Did you get a good result using Gmail?

i've tried it as well, it did not arrive to me sadly...

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Hi Daniel!

31 Dec 21 01:09, you wrote to me:

Thanks.
It works!

i've tried it as well, it did not arrive to me sadly...

Did it bounce back or something?

The "address" has to be precise, and it MUST be in plain-text. I'll send you a test message from my Gmail. My last test to myself was delivered.
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Hello August.

31 Dec 21 01:19, you wrote to me:

Hi Daniel!

31 Dec 21 01:09, you wrote to me:

Thanks.
It works!

i've tried it as well, it did not arrive to me sadly...

Did it bounce back or something?

The "address" has to be precise, and it MUST be in plain-text. I'll
send you a test message from my Gmail. My last test to myself was delivered.

i've received yours, but not mine.
first i've tried as html, then i had the error message bouncing back.
then i've sent plain text. no error message received.

Daniel

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Hello Daniel Path!

** On Saturday 01.01.22 - 01:07, Daniel Path wrote to August Abolins:

i've received yours, but not mine. first i've tried as
html, then i had the error message bouncing back. then
i've sent plain text. no error message received.

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there is a
lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I inadvertantly flipped
it back to html? The gmail editor panel seems to remember the
setting to "Plain text" the next time I log in to use mail now.

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Hello August.

01 Jan 22 09:26, you wrote to me:

Hello Daniel Path!

** On Saturday 01.01.22 - 01:07, Daniel Path wrote to August Abolins:

i've received yours, but not mine. first i've tried as
html, then i had the error message bouncing back. then
i've sent plain text. no error message received.

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there is a
lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I inadvertantly flipped
it back to html? The gmail editor panel seems to remember the
setting to "Plain text" the next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted email not gmail :)

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Hello Daniel Path!

** On Monday 03.01.22 - 20:47, Daniel Path wrote to August Abolins:

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there
is a lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I
inadvertantly flipped it back to html? The gmail editor
panel seems to remember the setting to "Plain text" the
next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted
email not gmail :)

So.. are you saying that your test from Apple Mail never
arrived?

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Hello, Daniel!

i've received yours, but not mine. first i've tried as
html, then i had the error message bouncing back. then
i've sent plain text. no error message received.

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there is a
lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I inadvertantly flipped
it back to html? The gmail editor panel seems to remember the
setting to "Plain text" the next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted email not gmail
:)

"Choose Format > Make Plain Text (available only when the current format is rich text). Plain text format doesnt include formatting (such as bold or italic text) or items like tables and images, but is readable for all recipients."

Ghil
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Hello August.

03 Jan 22 15:09, you wrote to me:

Hello Daniel Path!

** On Monday 03.01.22 - 20:47, Daniel Path wrote to August Abolins:

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there
is a lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I
inadvertantly flipped it back to html? The gmail editor
panel seems to remember the setting to "Plain text" the
next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted
email not gmail :)

So.. are you saying that your test from Apple Mail never
arrived?

exactly

Daniel

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Hello Ghil.

03 Jan 22 18:20, you wrote to me:

Hello, Daniel!

i've received yours, but not mine. first i've tried as
html, then i had the error message bouncing back. then
i've sent plain text. no error message received.

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there is a
lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I inadvertantly flipped
it back to html? The gmail editor panel seems to remember the
setting to "Plain text" the next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted email not
gmail :)

"Choose Format > Make Plain Text (available only when the current
format is rich text). Plain text format doesnt include formatting
(such as bold or italic text) or items like tables and images, but is readable for all recipients."

i did it like that. now i've sent a new test.


Daniel

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On 30.12.2021 2:31, August Abolins wrote:

AA>> Try replacing .org with .fi

GZ> Thanks.
GZ> It works!
GZ> For it to work when "Create Email" from my mail client is
GZ> to select Format->Plain Text. Because "Rich Text (HTML)"
GZ> was selected by default.

Right.. I should have mentioned that plain-text was a
prerequisite. Did you get a good result using Gmail?

Not accepting html shit is also a damn good way to reject spam. :)

Replying to email from fidonet netmail is also tricky if your netmail client (bbs) does not support REPLYTO/REPLYADDR kludges. In that case user must manually take care that the "to:" field contains the email address.

'Tommi

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Hello Roon.

04 Jan 22 15:52, I wrote to Ghil Zvidgzul:

Hello Ghil.

03 Jan 22 18:20, you wrote to me:

Hello, Daniel!

i've received yours, but not mine. first i've tried as
html, then i had the error message bouncing back. then
i've sent plain text. no error message received.

My first try with gmail to myself failed too. Maybe there is a
lag in the toggle to "Plain text" and I inadvertantly flipped
it back to html? The gmail editor panel seems to remember the
setting to "Plain text" the next time I log in to use mail now.

i've used my mac's built in Apple Mail and self-hosted email not
gmail :)

"Choose Format > Make Plain Text (available only when the current
format is rich text). Plain text format doesnt include formatting
(such as bold or italic text) or items like tables and images,
but is readable for all recipients."

i did it like that. now i've sent a new test.

at the end it worked well! thanks for your support :)

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