Hello Everybody,

The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

When the sun rises in America,
and the sun sets in Qatar, it will
be time to Rock & Roll, as The Game
gets underway.

Assuming enough Dutch recover from
the flu and are able to play.

For Life,
Lee

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The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

If not for Lee, no-one would know ... that is because no-one cae
res ...

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Hello Lee!

03 Dec 22 12:40, you wrote to ALL:

The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

When the sun rises in America,
and the sun sets in Qatar, it will
be time to Rock & Roll, as The Game
gets underway.

Assuming enough Dutch recover from
the flu and are able to play.

They did, were able and go to the next level.

Kees

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Hello Ward,

The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

If not for Lee, no-one would know ... that is because no-one cae
res ...

We scored! We scored! The USA actually scored a goal!

Even though we still got drowned.
By what seemed to be a sea of orange juice.

For Life,
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The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

...

We scored! We scored! The USA actually scored a goal!

Actually, the guy that scored for USA cannot explain what he did nor what happened. It was pure by accident.

Now it's Netherlands vs. Argentina and Lionel Messi has an appointment with history.

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Hello Ward,

The Game.
USA vs The Netherlands.

..

We scored! We scored! The USA actually scored a goal!

Actually, the guy that scored for USA cannot explain what he did nor what happened. It was pure by accident.

Doesn't matter. We scored. Whether by the Hand of God, or by other
means, doesn't really matter. We scored. And that's all that counts.

Now it's Netherlands vs. Argentina and Lionel Messi has an appointment with
history.

Lionel Messi is no Diego Maradonna.
Unless he too finds the Hand of God ...

For Life,
Lee

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Doesn't matter. We scored. Whether by the Hand of God, or by other
means, doesn't really matter. We scored. And that's all that counts.

You lost, even if the end-score is an 8-7, it's still a loss.

Lionel Messi is no Diego Maradonna.

It's the other way around, Maradonna is no Messi ...

Unless he too finds the Hand of God ...

Messi is god ...

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Ward Dossche wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

Doesn't matter. We scored. Whether by the Hand of God, or by other
means, doesn't really matter. We scored. And that's all that counts.

You lost, even if the end-score is an 8-7, it's still a loss.

I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass
about it, or even about soccer in general.

It's hockey season.


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On 05 Dec 22 08:46:00, Dan Clough said the following to Ward Dossche:

I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass about it, or even about soccer in general.

It's hockey season.

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football or hockey. But hockey is such a touchy subject.

Toronto is a dystopian authoritarian city where the beloved Maple Leafs completely suck the sweat off an elderly Dutchman's balls. But you MUST
worship that stupid team "or else". And whenever the leafs lose, theres always an excuse, always a story, always better luck next time. As they continue to be paid millions with an incompetent manager.

Its serious blasphemy here to cheer for a hockey team that actually wins...

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I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass about it, or even about soccer in general.

So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

It's hockey season.

Americans only like sports which are extremely boring such as baseball, or where the object is to kill someone such as leather egg throwing or ice hockey ... Canada's better at ice hockey ...

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Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football or hockey.

Hmmmm ... then why all the fuss, and expense, of sending a team to Qatar?

Plus why the willingness to co-organize the next world championships with the USA? (and Mexico)

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On 06 Dec 22 10:17:16, Ward Dossche said the following to Nick Andre:

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football or hockey.

Hmmmm ... then why all the fuss, and expense, of sending a team to Qatar?

Plus why the willingness to co-organize the next world championships with t USA? (and Mexico)

Nobody cared in the end; its yesterdays news now.

The local bars are often packed with people; only one TV had the soccer game with really nobody watching while other TV's had a captive audience for football, baseball, hockey... pro wrestling.

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Ward Dossche -> Nick Andre skrev 2022-12-06 10:17:

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football

Hmmmm ... then why all the fuss, and expense, of sending a team to Qatar?

They sure love their men in tights. Secretly friends of Dorothy all of them, maybe?

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Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

On 05 Dec 22 08:46:00, Dan Clough said the following to Ward
Dossche:

I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass about it, or even about soccer in general.

It's hockey season.

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball,
football or hockey. But hockey is such a touchy subject.

Toronto is a dystopian authoritarian city where the beloved Maple
Leafs completely suck the sweat off an elderly Dutchman's balls.
But you MUST worship that stupid team "or else". And whenever the
leafs lose, theres always an excuse, always a story, always
better luck next time. As they continue to be paid millions with
an incompetent manager.

Its serious blasphemy here to cheer for a hockey team that
actually wins...

Yes, I'm familiar with the Leafs' story... Painful to be a fan of
them, for sure. Maybe one day they'll break through. :)



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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass about it, or even about soccer in general.

So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

I don't know. Maybe it's just "our turn".

It's hockey season.

Americans only like sports which are extremely boring such as
baseball, or where the object is to kill someone such as leather
egg throwing or ice hockey ...

Well, that's not completely true of course, and one could argue that the
king of boring is..... soccer. I mean, seriously. The actual *goals*
are semi-exciting, but the interminable minutes (hours?) between goals
are the very definition of boring.

Canada's better at ice hockey ...

Here you are CLEARLY mistaken. It's been 29 *YEARS* since a Canadian
team won the Stanley Cup.


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So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

I don't know. Maybe it's just "our turn".

It's a very very very expensive venture, I can't imagine a country making money out of it. Just prestige.

To get awarded the organization is a very tedious project, corruption, kickbacks...someone must be providing the money. So there must be some gain..

For the record, the world championship football is a bigger event than the olympics...

Well, that's not completely true of course, and one could argue that the king of boring is..... soccer. I mean, seriously. The actual *goals*
are semi-exciting, but the interminable minutes (hours?) between goals
are the very definition of boring.

It's in the way how one views the game. For example the USA's opening game in the current world championships against Wales ended in a 1-1 but was a good game of tactics and moves. Even the 0-0 against England was a good game.

A football player runs between 11 and 15 km during a game, an NFL-player's performance is measured in yards, then he needs a break, a rest and a drink of water. That's the difference between a sport and a game.

But through the years I started to appreciate the game and tactics, in the mid-19704s I saw O.J.Simpson play and that was something...

Canada's better at ice hockey ...

Here you are CLEARLY mistaken. It's been 29 *YEARS* since a Canadian
team won the Stanley Cup.

The Stanley-what?

Meaning to say, at the world level of sports it is so unimportant...

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

>WD> So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

I don't know. Maybe it's just "our turn".

It's a very very very expensive venture, I can't imagine a
country making money out of it. Just prestige.

Oh, I'm quite sure there is money to be made. Lots of it.

To get awarded the organization is a very tedious project,
corruption, kickbacks...someone must be providing the money. So
there must be some gain..

Ummmm, yes. Money.

For the record, the world championship football is a bigger event
than the olympics...

I'll take your word for it. FWIW, the Olympics are a sad relic of what
they were a few decades ago. Nobody gives a shit about that, either.

Well, that's not completely true of course, and one could argue that the king of boring is..... soccer. I mean, seriously. The actual *goals*
are semi-exciting, but the interminable minutes (hours?) between goals
are the very definition of boring.

It's in the way how one views the game. For example the USA's
opening game in the current world championships against Wales
ended in a 1-1 but was a good game of tactics and moves. Even the
0-0 against England was a good game.

I can understand that. I think it's just that most Americans want more "instant gratification", and soccer does NOT provide that.

A football player runs between 11 and 15 km during a game, an
NFL-player's performance is measured in yards, then he needs a
break, a rest and a drink of water. That's the difference between
a sport and a game.

If you say so. Not really relevant to what I was talking about.

But through the years I started to appreciate the game and
tactics, in the mid-19704s I saw O.J.Simpson play and that was something...

There are current players with similar skills, although I rarely watch football any more.

Canada's better at ice hockey ...

Here you are CLEARLY mistaken. It's been 29 *YEARS* since a Canadian
team won the Stanley Cup.

The Stanley-what?

The Stanley Cup. The championship trophy of the National Hockey League,
which is the highest level of skill/play in North America.

Meaning to say, at the world level of sports it is so
unimportant...

It may be unimportant to YOU, just as international soccer is
unimportant to me (and almost ALL other Americans). I can assure you, however, that the skills in the NHL exceed those of ANY other hockey
league in the world (and there are plenty in Euro-commie-land). That
also includes Olympic hockey competition. A large number of players in
the NHL are from countries other than USA and Canada.


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Ward Dossche wrote to Nick Andre <=-

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football or hockey.

Hmmmm ... then why all the fuss, and expense, of sending a team
to Qatar?

Because some of the people who make those decisions are the
man-bun-wearing, skinny-jeans-wearing, effeminate types of "men" who
think soccer is a meaningful sport.

Plus why the willingness to co-organize the next world
championships with the USA? (and Mexico)

Because it's a money-maker. There is no other reason for anything like
this, at least in the USA. It's that simple.


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Hello Ward,

So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

I don't know. Maybe it's just "our turn".

It's a very very very expensive venture, I can't imagine a country making money out of it. Just prestige.

The USA has hosted the FIFA World Cup before. Thanks to Dr. Henry
Kissinger. So the USA does know how to do it.

To get awarded the organization is a very tedious project, corruption, kickbacks...someone must be providing the money. So there must be some gain..

Dr. Henry Kissinger is a German Jew. Served as Secretary of State
and National Security Director under President Richard Nixon. However,
unlike Nixon, Dr. Kissinger is not a crook.

For the record, the world championship football is a bigger event than the olympics...

That may be. But this is Dr. Kissinger's baby. And given he has been
retired from politics for decades, he has all the time in the world ...

Well, that's not completely true of course, and one could argue that the
king of boring is..... soccer. I mean, seriously. The actual *goals*
are semi-exciting, but the interminable minutes (hours?) between goals
are the very definition of boring.

It's in the way how one views the game. For example the USA's opening game in the current world championships against Wales ended in a 1-1 but was a good game of tactics and moves. Even the 0-0 against England was a good game.

The USA had the youngest team, and did extremely well given the
competition. Will be a real contender in 2026.

A football player runs between 11 and 15 km during a game, an NFL-player's performance is measured in yards, then he needs a break, a rest and a drink
of water. That's the difference between a sport and a game.

Several teams in the NFL have had kickers who kicked the round ball
long before the oval one ...

But through the years I started to appreciate the game and tactics, in the mid-19704s I saw O.J.Simpson play and that was something...

Sylvester Stallone played the game. But only on camera.

Canada's better at ice hockey ...

Here you are CLEARLY mistaken. It's been 29 *YEARS* since a Canadian
team won the Stanley Cup.

The Stanley-what?

Nobody knows. Been too long for Canadians to remember.

Meaning to say, at the world level of sports it is so unimportant...

The USA actually won a gold medal in curling.
Just like the USA will actually win the World Cup.
If only in my dreams.

For Life,
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Hello Dan,

I wouldn't have known "we" lost if I hadn't seen it here. That's
because I, and 99.7% of the other USA citizens, don't give a rat's ass
about it, or even about soccer in general.

So why is the USA organizing the next World Championships then?

I don't know. Maybe it's just "our turn".

The USA has done it before.
Thanks to Dr. Henry Kissinger.

The USA is set to do it again.
Thanks to Dr. Henry Kissinger.

It's hockey season.

Americans only like sports which are extremely boring such as
baseball, or where the object is to kill someone such as leather
egg throwing or ice hockey ...

Well, that's not completely true of course, and one could argue that the king of boring is..... soccer.

Which is why the rest of the world calls it "football" - as well as
"the beautiful game" ...

I mean, seriously.

Real football is played without pads and helmets. And where players
have to actually kick the ball - with their feet (or their head).

The actual *goals* are semi-exciting, but the interminable minutes (hours?)
between goals are the very definition of boring.

It is not the goals that matter, it is how a player makes the goals.

Canada's better at ice hockey ...

Louisiana had three hockey teams at the same time. None of them
lasted long, as the ice melted too fast for games to finish.

Here you are CLEARLY mistaken. It's been 29 *YEARS* since a Canadian
team won the Stanley Cup.

No surprise there.

For Life,
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Hello Bj”rn,

Nobody cares about soccer in Canada either. Its baseball, football

Hmmmm ... then why all the fuss, and expense, of sending a team to
Qatar?

They sure love their men in tights. Secretly friends of Dorothy all of them, maybe?

It must be the slippers. Silver, in Baum's wonderful world of Oz.

For Life,
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Dr. Henry Kissinger is a German Jew. Served as Secretary of State
and National Security Director under President Richard Nixon. However, unlike Nixon, Dr. Kissinger is not a crook.

Neither was Nixon, he said so himself.

The USA had the youngest team, and did extremely well given the competition. Will be a real contender in 2026.

The USA has no football culture, there is no national competition of any significance. Only a bunch of has-beens and 2nd rate Brazilians. A national team is something that needs to be nurtured and grown, not something you put together when an event comes up.

Several teams in the NFL have had kickers who kicked the round ball
long before the oval one ...

"oval" and "ball" are mutually exclusive.

But through the years I started to appreciate the game and tactics, LL>WD> in the mid-19704s I saw O.J.Simpson play and that was something...

Sylvester Stallone played the game. But only on camera.

He also played football ... but also on camera in the film "Escape to Victory".

Pele, Bobby Moore, Osvaldo Ardiles, Paul Van Himst, Co Prins, Kazimierz Deyna, Hallvar Thoresen, Mike Summerbee, Russell Osman, John Wark, Soren Lindsted and Kevin O'Callaghan made it look like real football. Stallone was a joke.

Just like the USA will actually win the World Cup.

Just like several US riders won the Tour the France only to be stripped from all their victories because of cheating.

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It may be unimportant to YOU, just as international soccer is
unimportant to me (and almost ALL other Americans). I can assure you, however, that the skills in the NHL exceed those of ANY other hockey
league in the world (and there are plenty in Euro-commie-land). That
also includes Olympic hockey competition.

Belgium is the reigning Olympic hockey champion.

A large number of players in
the NHL are from countries other than USA and Canada.

So you're saying that the one major ice-hockey competition resulting in the Stanley Cup is mainly played by non-Americans and non-Canadians? 8-)

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

It may be unimportant to YOU, just as international soccer is
unimportant to me (and almost ALL other Americans). I can assure you, however, that the skills in the NHL exceed those of ANY other hockey league in the world (and there are plenty in Euro-commie-land). That
also includes Olympic hockey competition.

Belgium is the reigning Olympic hockey champion.

Not true. It's Finland.

A large number of players in
the NHL are from countries other than USA and Canada.

So you're saying that the one major ice-hockey competition
resulting in the Stanley Cup is mainly played by non-Americans
and non-Canadians? 8-)

No, I'm not saying that. You added the word "mainly" in another attempt
to twist the meaning of what somebody says, like you frequently do.

So, in this one post, you're 0-for-2. One outright lie, and one attempt
at twisting. FAIL.



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Belgium is the reigning Olympic hockey champion.

Not true. It's Finland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020_Summer_Olympics_medal_winners...
...#Field_hockey

<slam dunk> ... :-)

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Ward Dossche -> Dan Clough skrev 2022-12-08 15:38:

Belgium is the reigning Olympic hockey champion.

Naughty. 8-)

And yes, they really are. Those tight loving guys really should learn, that their name of a game is not necessarily the universally accepted one.


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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Belgium is the reigning Olympic hockey champion.

Not true. It's Finland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020_Summer_Olympics_medal_w inners...
...#Field_hockey

<slam dunk> ... :-)

Yeah right. You know damn well we were talking about ice hockey, and do
stuff like this just to be a douchebag.

Fuck off. You become more and more like Beeeorn with every post you
make.



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<slam dunk> ... :-)

Yeah right. You know damn well we were talking about ice hockey, and do stuff like this just to be a douchebag.

I don't know what you were talking about, but I was talking about what as good as the whole world calls "hockey", just as I'm talking about what as good as the whole world calls "football".

You're so easy to catch, nearly dissappointing ... and then of course the insult.

Fuck off. You become more and more like Beeeorn with every post you
make.

Maybe I am him ...

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Lee Lofaso -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2022-12-08 13:43:

They sure love their men in tights. Secretly friends of Dorothy all of
them, maybe?

It must be the slippers. Silver, in Baum's wonderful world of Oz.

Yeah, well, it's not totally clear from where the FoD expression originates. Some seem to vote for Dorothy Parker rather than your Dorothy Gale.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_Dorothy

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Hello Ward,

Dr. Henry Kissinger is a German Jew. Served as Secretary of State
and National Security Director under President Richard Nixon. However,
unlike Nixon, Dr. Kissinger is not a crook.

Neither was Nixon, he said so himself.

Then why did Ford grant him a pardon? And why did Nixon accept it?

The USA had the youngest team, and did extremely well given the
competition. Will be a real contender in 2026.

The USA has no football culture, there is no national competition of any significance. Only a bunch of has-beens and 2nd rate Brazilians. A national
team is something that needs to be nurtured and grown, not something you put together when an event comes up.

The USA earned its way to the World Cup.
Italy flunked out. For the third straight time.
That should tell you something.

The USA made it to the knockout round.
Belgium never got there.
That should also tell you something.

The USA will be back in 2026.
Belgium might never get there.
That is another thing to keep in mind.

Brazil and the Netherland both lost,
and all their players, coaches, and fans
are crying. Some sysops from those places
might never recover.

This is not just a game for some people.
It is the beautiful game, the only game of
its kind, and some folks can never get it
out of their minds.

Several teams in the NFL have had kickers who kicked the round ball
long before the oval one ...

"oval" and "ball" are mutually exclusive.

We have our own rugby league where I am. The players aren't very good,
but everybody has fun. As long as there is enough beer to go around.

As you know, rugby cannot be played with a "round" ball ...

But through the years I started to appreciate the game and tactics,
in the mid-19704s I saw O.J.Simpson play and that was something...

Sylvester Stallone played the game. But only on camera.

He also played football ... but also on camera in the film "Escape to Victory".

Burt Reynolds was better in "The Longest Yard" ...

Pele, Bobby Moore, Osvaldo Ardiles, Paul Van Himst, Co Prins, Kazimierz Deyna, Hallvar Thoresen, Mike Summerbee, Russell Osman, John Wark, Soren Lindsted and Kevin O'Callaghan made it look like real football. Stallone was a joke.

Stallone also drove a race car. But only in the movies ...

Just like the USA will actually win the World Cup.

Just like several US riders won the Tour the France only to be stripped from
all their victories because of cheating.

But we won! We won!
Does anything else really matter?
I mean, get real.
Brazilians are crying today.
So are the Dutch.
And we all know the reason why.

For Life,
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Then why did Ford grant him a pardon? And why did Nixon accept it?

Because he was driving a Subaru, not a Ford.

The USA earned its way to the World Cup.

Yeah ... beating like Costa Rica, Panama, Jamaica ... really must be tough.

Italy flunked out. For the third straight time.
That should tell you something.

Because the qualifiers in Europe are Champions' League level.

The USA made it to the knockout round.
Belgium never got there.
That should also tell you something.

All the teams from the USA's group have already been eliminated.
All the teams from Belgium's group that advanced are still in and playing the semi-finals. They have eliminated Brazil, Portugal and Spain.
That should tell you something.

Brazilians are crying today.
So are the Dutch.

The Dutch are not crying. Just looking for someone to blame.

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