Good day, All.

For those who do not believe in the existence of Ukrainian Nazism. This is not Russian propaganda. Ukrainian. Nowadays. Live broadcast recording.

https://t.me/mig41/14938

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For those who do not believe in the existence of Ukrainian Nazism. This is not Russian propaganda. Ukrainian. Nowadays. Live broadcast recording.

There are nazis here in Canada. Not in great numbers but they do exist. There are also nazis in the USA and Russia. Also not in great numbers but they do exist.

Ukraine is not a nazi state. Did they threaten Russia? No. Did they invade Russia? No. Ukraine is not and never was any kind of threat to Russia.

Russia did invade Ukraine. It was not a "special military operation", it was an act of war. Russia massed ~200,000 troops on the Ukraine border and then invaded the country.

Today we are witnessing the results of that invasion of a peaceful sovereign nation.

You may have a hard time finding friends in Ukraine today.

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���ண� �६�窠, Alan Ianson.
�� ��ᠫ� 18.03.22 19:25:

For those who do not believe in the
existence of Ukrainian Nazism. This is not
Russian propaganda. Ukrainian. Nowadays.
Live broadcast recording.

There are nazis here in Canada. Not in great
numbers but they do exist. There are also
nazis in the USA and Russia. Also not in
great numbers but they do exist. Ukraine is
not a nazi state. Did they threaten Russia?
No. Did they invade Russia? No. Ukraine is
not and never was any kind of threat to
Russia.

You have already pulled up in every message for half a page to "treat" me that we attacked. Calm down already, we attacked, attacked;)

Is Nazi paraphernalia banned in Canada? In Russia it is forbidden, in Germany too, in USA - no.

Do the Nazis conduct their propaganda at the state level? In Russia there is no. Give a daily live broadcast to propagandists of Goebbels' ideas? In Russia there is no.

Nationwide marches of many thousands with the banners of Nazi Germany, the SS troops, with portraits of Nazi criminals from the time of the 2nd World War - are they carried out? In Russia there is no.

Nazis declare from the screens of state channels that they will pass through the central streets of the capital of a neighboring state? In Ukraine, yes.

In Canada, the Nazis bully people with anti-fascist views, brutally torture them, kill them, and all this remains without addiction? In Russia there is no.

In Montreal, have the Nazis already desecrated and destroyed the monument to Soviet soldiers of the 2nd World Ocean? In Ukraine - yes, on the territory of neighboring Moldova - "refugees" did it.

Is it forbidden to celebrate Victory Day over Nazi Germany in Canada? No. And not in Russia. And in Ukraine - yes.

http://pics.rsh.ru/img/IMGx2029717_lyqpd813.jpg

In Germany, such speeches are somehow shocking and condemned: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/14/povtorno-travmiruyut-mir-nemcy-shokirovany-fakelnym-shestviem-bundesvera-u-reyhstaga

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On 03-19-22 04:52, Oleg Nazarov <=-
spoke to All about Ukrainian propaganda <=-

For those who do not believe in the existence of Ukrainian
Nazism. This is not Russian propaganda. Ukrainian.
Nowadays. Live broadcast recording.

https://t.me/mig41/14938

The link leads me to something called telegram, with which I am only
heard of but am not familiar. What came up was a video of a march of
perhaps a couple of hundred people described as some sort of SS --- that
march took place in a town named Riga, which is a town in Latvia.

I welcome anyone who can understand Russian to produce a transcript for
all to see.

I believe that I said this before, but will repeat it for you so that
perhaps this time it will sink in.

In a free country, people are free to say things that they could not do
in Russia -- even things which are dispictable to the majority of the
people in that country. Such is the way free democracies work. There
are Nazis in the USA but they are a fringe group with no part in the
serious discourse of America.

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You have already pulled up in every message for half a page to "treat" me that we attacked. Calm down already, we attacked, attacked;)

Yes, Russia first invaded and then attacked, and continues that attack.

Is Nazi paraphernalia banned in Canada?

Not that I know of but there may be laws on the books that I am aware of.

There are laws around hate speech that could come into play if taken too far.

When I am out and about shopping there is no nazi paraphernalia to be found, and I do not wish to see it. I don't think there is a market for such things.

In Russia it is forbidden, in Germany too, in USA - no.

We do have freedoms in Canada and the US. You are free to think as you please but not to push it on others. You are also free to speak whatever you want as long as you are not inciting a riot or somesuch.

Do the Nazis conduct their propaganda at the state level? In Russia there is no. Give a daily live broadcast to propagandists of Goebbels' ideas? In Russia there is no.

There is no nazi party in Canada but you could start such a thing if you wanted too however, you could not get elected to garbage man running for such a thing here. There is no appatite for it or anything related to naziism.

Nationwide marches of many thousands with the banners of Nazi Germany, the SS troops, with portraits of Nazi criminals from the time of the 2nd World War - are they carried out? In Russia there is no.

There is nothing like that happening here.

Nazis declare from the screens of state channels that they will pass through the central streets of the capital of a neighboring state? In Ukraine, yes.

Ukraine is not a nazi state.

In Canada, the Nazis bully people with anti-fascist views, brutally torture them, kill them, and all this remains without addiction? In Russia there is not.

You will not see anything like that in the streets of Canada, Ukraine or Russia.

In Montreal, have the Nazis already desecrated and destroyed the monument to Soviet soldiers of the 2nd World Ocean? In Ukraine - yes, on the territory of neighboring Moldova - "refugees" did it.

I am a long way from Montreal. How, where and when did Ukraine destroy a monument to soviet soldiers?

Is it forbidden to celebrate Victory Day over Nazi Germany in Canada? No. And not in Russia. And in Ukraine - yes.

You can celebrate as you please here. How is it forbidden in Ukraine?

http://pics.rsh.ru/img/IMGx2029717_lyqpd813.jpg

In Germany, such speeches are somehow shocking and condemned: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/14/povtorno-travmiruyut-mir-nem cy-shokirovny-fakelnym-shestviem-bundesvera-u-reyhstaga

This link gives me an error.

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In Germany, such speeches are somehow shocking and condemned:
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/14/povtorno-travmiruyut-mir-nemcy-shokirov
ny-fakelnym-shestviem-bundesvera-u-reyhstaga

OK, I think I found this page but the translation makes no sense. The translation says (in part)..

<quote>
The day before, German soldiers marked 20 years of service in Afghanistan with a ceremony called the zapfenstreich, which is the highest form of military honors in Germany (Zapfenstreich - literally "strike on beer taps"). The details of the action shocked politicians, social activists and people of culture.
</quote>

German soldiers marked 20 years of service in Afghanistan? What are you trying to say?

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���ண� �६�窠, Dale Shipp.
�� ��ᠫ� 19.03.22 1:26:

https://t.me/mig41/14938

The link leads me to something called
telegram, with which I am only heard of but
am not familiar. What came up was a video
of a march of perhaps a couple of hundred
people described as some sort of SS --- that
march took place in a town named Riga, which
is a town in Latvia.

Sorry, nope. Almost all previously available social networks in Russia are blocked and few people are now interested in connection with the frank implementation of the policy of Nazism against Russians. Only Telegram has the widest distribution among international ones.

I believe that I said this before, but will
repeat it for you so that perhaps this time
it will sink in.

We are thinking 8 years.

In a free country, people are free to say
things that they could not do in Russia --
even things which are dispictable to the
majority of the people in that country.
Such is the way free democracies work.
There are Nazis in the USA but they are a
fringe group with no part in the serious
discourse of America.

Free democracy works only for your authorities. Unfortunately for myself, I have known her since the 70s of the last century.


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���ண� �६�窠, Alan Ianson.
�� ��ᠫ� 18.03.22 23:01:

In Germany, such speeches are somehow
shocking and condemned:
https://eadaily.
com/ru/news/2021/10/14/povtorno-travmiruyut-
mir-nemcy-shokirov
ny-fakelnym-shestviem-bundesvera-u-reyhstaga

OK, I think I found this page but the
translation makes no sense. The translation
says (in part)..

The soldiers of the German Bundeswehr came to this parade in the form and with the standards of the Wehrmacht, the Nazi army of the 2nd World War. This plunged the German inhabitants into shock, despite the "tolerance" they are now instilling. As far as I know, this is not a Russian resource and it has not only Russian language for all articles.

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���ண� �६�窠, Alan Ianson.
�� ��ᠫ� 18.03.22 22:41:

Is Nazi paraphernalia banned in Canada?

Not that I know of but there may be laws on
the books that I am aware of. There are laws
around hate speech that could come into play
if taken too far. When I am out and about
shopping there is no nazi paraphernalia to
be found, and I do not wish to see it. I
don't think there is a market for such
things.

Probably, it is sewn for the Ukrainian president by special order.

In Russia it is forbidden, in Germany too,
in USA - no.

We do have freedoms in Canada and the US.
You are free to think as you please but not
to push it on others. You are also free to
speak whatever you want as long as you are
not inciting a riot or somesuch.

Yes, but in Ukraine this is not the case at all. These are not separate groups, they have long been part of the army in the field.

Do the Nazis conduct their propaganda at
the state level? In Russia there is no.
Give a daily live broadcast to
propagandists of Goebbels' ideas? In Russia
there is no.

There is no nazi party in Canada but you
could start such a thing if you wanted too
however, you could not get elected to
garbage man running for such a thing here.
There is no appatite for it or anything
related to naziism.

Do you see? And we have the same in Russia. But not in Ukraine. This is what it's all about..

Nationwide marches of many thousands with
the banners of Nazi Germany, the SS troops,
with portraits of Nazi criminals from the
time of the 2nd World War - are they
carried out? In Russia there is no.

There is nothing like that happening here.

But not in Ukraine.

Nazis declare from the screens of state
channels that they will pass through the
central streets of the capital of a
neighboring state? In Ukraine, yes.

Ukraine is not a nazi state.

Twenty-five again... Until you see it with your own eyes, you only believe in your own propaganda;) How many times has it already happened and here it is again. There will be no limit to surprise and indignation. I will find especially for you a live report of Western journalists and the square eyes of their bosses' misunderstanding that this is still "ordinary fascism."

In Canada, the Nazis bully people with
anti-fascist views, brutally torture them,
kill them, and all this remains without
addiction? In Russia there is not.

You will not see anything like that in the
streets of Canada, Ukraine or Russia.

Sorry, sorry, I saw it.

In Montreal, have the Nazis already
desecrated and destroyed the monument to
Soviet soldiers of the 2nd World Ocean? In
Ukraine - yes, on the territory of
neighboring Moldova - "refugees" did it.

I am a long way from Montreal. How, where
and when did Ukraine destroy a monument to
soviet soldiers?

Throughout Ukraine, the monuments and cemeteries of their own grandfathers, who died in the war against fascism, have been destroyed and desecrated.

Is it forbidden to celebrate Victory Day
over Nazi Germany in Canada? No. And not in
Russia. And in Ukraine - yes.

You can celebrate as you please here. How is
it forbidden in Ukraine?

Ukrainians consider the parade of victory over fascism immoral in relation to their Nazi state. Moreover, they banned the parade in Moscow for their still living veterans of the 2nd World War.

http://pics.rsh.ru/img/IMGx2029717_lyqpd813.
jpg In Germany, such speeches are somehow
shocking and condemned:
https://eadaily.
com/ru/news/2021/10/14/povtorno-travmiruyut-
mir-nem
cy-shokirovny-fakelnym-shestviem-bundesvera-
u-reyhstaga

This link gives me an error.

It opens in California for me ;) Maybe your hackers are too smart with blocking?

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Probably, it is sewn for the Ukrainian president by special order.

I have not seen the Ukrainian president wearing nazi garb or behaving in a nazi way.

We do have freedoms in Canada and the US.
You are free to think as you please but not
to push it on others. You are also free to
speak whatever you want as long as you are
not inciting a riot or somesuch.

Yes, but in Ukraine this is not the case at all. These are not separate groups they have long been part of the army in the field.

They are separate. Ukraine is not a nazi state.

There is no nazi party in Canada but you
could start such a thing if you wanted too
however, you could not get elected to
garbage man running for such a thing here.
There is no appatite for it or anything
related to naziism.

Do you see? And we have the same in Russia. But not in Ukraine. This is what it's all about..

This is what you want to present for whatever reason.

Nazis declare from the screens of state
channels that they will pass through the
central streets of the capital of a
neighboring state? In Ukraine, yes.

It is Russia that is in fact passing through the central streets of the capital of a neighboring state, at least thay are trying to.

Twenty-five again... Until you see it with your own eyes, you only believe in your own propaganda;)

This is not Russia or China. The gov't of Canada does not propagandize us.

How many times has it already happened and here it is again. There will be
no limit to surprise and indignation. I will find especially for you a live report of Western journalists and the square eyes of their bosses' misunderstanding that this is still "ordinary fascism."

What is happening in Russia today is fascism. My dictionary says that fascism is..

1. a political theory advocating an authoritarian
hierarchical government; -- opposed to democracy and
liberalism.

2. an authoritarian system of government under absolute
control of a single dictator, allowing no political
opposition, forcibly suppressing dissent, and rigidly
controlling most industrial and economic activities. Such
regimes usually try to achieve popularity by a strongly
nationalistic appeal, often mixed with racism.

I think you have a bit of a problem there in Russia.

You will not see anything like that in the
streets of Canada, Ukraine or Russia.

Sorry, sorry, I saw it.

I don't think it means what you think it means.

Throughout Ukraine, the monuments and cemeteries of their own grandfathers, who died in the war against fascism, have been destroyed and desecrated.

In Ukraine the people can build or destroy monuments as they please.

You can celebrate as you please here. How is
it forbidden in Ukraine?

Ukrainians consider the parade of victory over fascism immoral in relation to their Nazi state. Moreover, they banned the parade in Moscow for their still living veterans of the 2nd World War.

I don't think so.

This link gives me an error.

It opens in California for me ;) Maybe your hackers are too smart with blocking?

I found it. I was using the quoted link that was broken. The link you gave makes no sense.

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���ண� �६�窠, Alan Ianson.
�� ��ᠫ� 19.03.22 14:18:

They are separate. Ukraine is not a nazi
state.

You do not live in Canada, it seems, but on the island of St. Helena. No telecom. As you hammered into your head with the 25th frame, you will repeat it. Looks like even after neo-Nuremberg ;)


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You do not live in Canada, it seems, but on the island of St. Helena. No telecom. As you hammered into your head with the 25th frame, you will repeat it. Looks like even after neo-Nuremberg ;)

Not that it matters much but I do in fact live in Canada.

I will repeat the truth when needed.

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Hello, oleg!

Saturday March 19 2022 15:57, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

Throughout Ukraine, the monuments and cemeteries of their own grandfathers, who died in the war against fascism, have been destroyed
and desecrated.

Fake news.

You can celebrate as you please here. How is
it forbidden in Ukraine?

Ukrainians consider the parade of victory over fascism immoral in
relation to their Nazi state. Moreover, they banned the parade in
Moscow for their still living veterans of the 2nd World War.

They never banned it, you are are just a liar.


Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Alan,

[..]

What is happening in Russia today is fascism. My dictionary says that fascism is..

1. a political theory advocating an authoritarian
hierarchical government; -- opposed to democracy and
liberalism.

2. an authoritarian system of government under absolute
control of a single dictator, allowing no political
opposition, forcibly suppressing dissent, and rigidly
controlling most industrial and economic activities. Such
regimes usually try to achieve popularity by a strongly
nationalistic appeal, often mixed with racism.

I think you have a bit of a problem there in Russia.

Benito Mussolini wrote the book on fascism. Not just the definition.
It is an ideology, and would have continued even without Mussolini as
leader of Italy.

Nazi Germany was not a fascist state, but a cult of personality,
centered around Adolf Hitler.

Putin's Russia is not a fascist state, and far from being a democracy.
It is more like Pinochet's Chile, a closed society or police state.

Donald Trump's vision for America is fascism with a smile.

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2. an authoritarian system of government under absolute
control of a single dictator, allowing no political
opposition, forcibly suppressing dissent, and rigidly
controlling most industrial and economic activities. Such
regimes usually try to achieve popularity by a strongly
nationalistic appeal, often mixed with racism.

I think you have a bit of a problem there in Russia.

Putin's Russia is not a fascist state, and far from being a democracy.
It is more like Pinochet's Chile, a closed society or police state.

This is only a quick definition from my desktop dictionary but I think Today's Russia has all these attributes. Absolute control of a dictator, forcibly suppressing dissent, controlling industrial and economic activities and strong nationalistic appeal although it is not like Mussolini's Italy. That was something else.

Donald Trump's vision for America is fascism with a smile.

Is he the guy who got love letters from the supreme leader?

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On 03-19-22 15:36, Oleg Nazarov <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Ukrainian propaganda <=-

https://t.me/mig41/14938

The link leads me to something called
telegram, with which I am only heard of but
am not familiar. What came up was a video
of a march of perhaps a couple of hundred
people described as some sort of SS --- that
march took place in a town named Riga, which
is a town in Latvia.

Sorry, nope. Almost all previously available social networks in Russia
are blocked and few people are now interested in connection
with the frank implementation of the policy of Nazism
against Russians. Only Telegram has the widest distribution
among international ones.

?? I'm not at all sure of what you mean. ??

I believe that I said this before, but will
repeat it for you so that perhaps this time
it will sink in.

We are thinking 8 years.

?? Another response that has nothing to do with what was quoted.

In a free country, people are free to say
things that they could not do in Russia --
even things which are dispictable to the
majority of the people in that country.
Such is the way free democracies work.
There are Nazis in the USA but they are a
fringe group with no part in the serious
discourse of America.

Free democracy works only for your authorities.
Unfortunately for myself, I have known her since the 70s of
the last century.

Free democracy works for the people. I have no idea what you mean by
that second sentence. In what country do you live?

Dale Shipp
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?? I'm not at all sure of what you mean. ??

?? Another response that has nothing to do with what was quoted.

Did you miss my call for sanctions. Don't feed the trolls from the Glavset troll factory!


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Hello oleg!

19 Mar 22 07:16, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

Is Nazi paraphernalia banned in Canada? In Russia it is forbidden, in Germany too, in USA - no.

It's not banned in the USA, because when we go out in public we need to know who we're allowed to punch in the face.


Regular person, not wearing nazi paraphernalia? Leave them alone

Some guy has a swastika tattoo, or is wearing a Waffen SS pin, or displaying some other kind of nazi symbols? They get punched in the face.





Mike


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German soldiers marked 20 years of service in Afghanistan? What are you trying to say?

Most of the west were there for nearly 20 years.


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German soldiers marked 20 years of service in Afghanistan? What are you
trying to say?

Most of the west were there for nearly 20 years.

Yeah, I don't know what Oleg was trying to say. He was supporting some propaganda, I don't get it.

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