• wheat berries

    From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, October 30, 2021 00:14:00

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Dale Shipp <=-

    If you've seen a kernel of wheat, you've seen a wheat berry.

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    Since you buy wheat in bulk for flour, do you ever make kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)

    Arising from the recent Korean thread:

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    Title: Firecracker Tofu
    Categories: Tofu, Chilies
    Servings: 4

    14 oz package of firm or extra
    firm tofu, pressed
    1/2 c cornstarch
    1 TB soy sauce
    2 eggs
    1/4 c vegetable oil
    1/4 c brown sugar
    1/3 c Frank's Red Hot
    2 TB butter
    1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    3 garlic cloves, minced
    1 TB vinegar (apple cider, rice
    wine, or white)
    1/2 ts salt
    1 ts black pepper

    To make the tofu you will first need to press the tofu until most of
    the water is out. Then cut the tofu into cubes.

    Mix together the soy sauce and egg in a shallow bowl. Dip the tofu
    into the cornstarch and then into the egg mixture. Pan fry until
    crisp and golden brown.

    Meanwhile, heat the brown sugar, red hot, butter, Worcestershire
    sauce, garlic, vinegar, salt, and pepper in a small saucepan. Pour
    the sauce over top of the tofu in the pan.

    Bake for 30 minutes then serve over top of rice.

    While you don't have to I would recommend firm or super firm so that
    the tofu holds it's shape and becomes crispy. The firm tofu holds
    up well in the oven with the sauce.

    CAN I ADD VEGETABLES TO THIS DISH? Yes! I actually added broccoli
    to the dish with tofu and covered both with the sauce before I baked
    it. You can add broccoli, peppers, onions, zucchini, or squash.

    CAN I MAKE THIS DISH VEGAN? You sure can. The only thing in the
    recipe that isn't vegan is the egg. You can substitute a few
    tablespoons of vegan mayo along with a tablespoon of vegan milk and
    use that in place of the egg to make this dish vegan.

    WHAT CAN I USE IF I DON'T HAVE A TOFU PRESS? You can set your tofu
    on a plate, cover with paper towels, and put a heavy bottomed
    skillet or pan on top weighed down with a few cans. This will help
    press out the liquid from the tofu.

    I really like this tofu dish because it just pops with flavor. You
    can adjust the amount of Frank's Red Hot if you think it's too hot
    or if it isn't hot enough for you.

    Preheat the oven to 375 degrees. Spray a baking dish with cooking
    spray. (If just making tofu use an 8 x 8 pan, if adding vegetables
    use a 9 x 13 pan.) Cut the tofu into 1 inch cubes and toss with the
    cornstarch. In a shallow bowl combine the soy sauce and the eggs.
    Beat well. Heat the oil in a large skillet over medium high heat.
    Dip the cornstarch dusted tofu pieces into the egg mixture then
    place in the hot pan. Cook for 2-3 minutes then flip and cook an
    additional 2-3 minutes or until the tofu is crispy and golden.
    Remove the tofu from the skillet and place in the prepared pan.
    Meanwhile, heat the brown sugar, Red Hot, and butter in a small
    saucepan over medium heat. Cook for 3-4 minutes or until the brown
    sugar has dissolved. Remove from heat and stir in the Worcestershire
    sauce, garlic, vinegar, salt, and pepper. Mix well then pour over
    top of the tofu in the baking dish. Place the baking dish in the
    oven and cook for 15 minutes. Toss the tofu to coat it in the sauce
    and cook for an additional 15 minutes. Remove from oven and serve
    over top of rice.

    NOTES Recipe adapted from Vegan Travel Eats

    Heather Lynne and Frank

    From: Hezzi-Dsbooksandcooks.Com

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    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, October 31, 2021 17:38:33
    Hi Jim,

    If you've seen a kernel of wheat, you've seen a wheat berry.

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    Thus inflating our bread prices.


    Since you buy wheat in bulk for flour, do you ever make kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)

    We did, some years ago, and every so often while digging thru a stack of recipies, I'll see it and think "got to make that again some time". But,
    then I go on to make whatever I was digging for, whether it be the lemon
    pound cake, spicy Moroccan chicken, pumpkin roll or whatever else. All
    of those listed are ones I've made in the last 6 months or so.


    Arising from the recent Korean thread:


    Title: Firecracker Tofu
    Categories: Tofu, Chilies
    Servings: 4


    Something to consider but not in the immediate future.


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, November 01, 2021 22:36:00

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    Thus inflating our bread prices.

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    Since you buy wheat in bulk for flour, do you ever make kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)

    We did, some years ago, and every so often while digging thru a stack
    of recipies, I'll see it and think "got to make that again some time".

    We make it a few times every winter.

    Title: Firecracker Tofu
    Categories: Tofu, Chilies
    Servings: 4

    Something to consider but not in the immediate future.

    I recently made a version of it with cayenne mixed into the cornstarch
    and Sriracha at the table.

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    Title: Apelsinsmoothie Med Kanel Och Banan
    Categories: Scandinavia, Beverages, Dairy, Fruit, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Serving

    2 Bananas
    Juice from 1 orange
    1 c Mild plain yogurt
    1 ts Powdered sugar
    1 tb "runny" honey
    Cinnamon
    Lemon balm
    1 Orange wedge

    ORANGE CINNAMON BANANA SMOOTHIE

    Peel and split the bananas. Mix bananas and orange juice in a
    mixer and add yogurt, powdered sugar and honey. Mix for a few
    seconds more and pour it up in glasses. Sprinkle with some
    cinnamon and decorate with lemon balm leaves and an orange wedge.
    Serve instantly because the drink darkens quickly.

    From: Bella

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Thursday, November 04, 2021 00:56:02
    On 11-01-21 22:36, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about wheat berries <=-

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    Thus inflating our bread prices.

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    IMO, prices at health food stores are always inflated to the point of
    being unreasonable.


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    Title: Trail Blazin' Beef Soup
    Categories: Soup/stew, Main dish, Meats
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Chuck pot roast
    -- trimmed and cut
    -- into 1-inch cubes
    1 ts Garlic powder; divided
    2 ts Ground cumin; divided
    6 tb Olive oil; divided
    2 lg Onions
    -- cut into 8 pieces each
    5 c Double-strength beef stock
    3 c Water
    4 lg Garlic cloves; minced
    9 Red potatoes
    -- scrubbed and halved
    4 Ears corn; cut into fourths
    3 Carrots; peeled and cut
    -- into 1-inch chunks
    2 md Zucchini
    -- cut into 1-inch pieces
    1/2 c Cilantro, coarsely chopped
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper

    Serves 6-8
    Cooking time: 1 hour

    1. Heat 3 Tbsp. oil in a large skillet. Stir-fry meat, garlic powder
    and cumin. Remove with slotted spoon to a 6-8 quart stock pot.

    2. Add onion to skillet with remaining 3 Tbsp. oil and saute until
    soft. Remove to stock pot.

    3. Add all remaining ingredients to stock pot. Bring to a boil. Cover,
    reduce heat and simmer 1 hour or longer.

    4. Serve with flour tortillas.

    * COOKFDN brings you this recipe with permission from:
    * Texas Beef Council -- http://www.txbeef.org

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, November 03, 2021 15:54:29
    Hi Jim,

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    Thus inflating our bread prices.

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    I saw something in today's paper about the price of wheat going up world
    wide. We usually buy 50 pound sacks of it so it looks like we'll be
    paying a good bit more for the next one.


    Since you buy wheat in bulk for flour, do you ever make kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)

    We did, some years ago, and every so often while digging thru a stack
    of recipies, I'll see it and think "got to make that again some time".

    We make it a few times every winter.

    It might be something we'll start doing too. Our main hot cereal in the
    winter is oatmeal, and it's not an every day one for us.


    Title: Firecracker Tofu
    Categories: Tofu, Chilies
    Servings: 4

    Something to consider but not in the immediate future.

    I recently made a version of it with cayenne mixed into the cornstarch
    and Sriracha at the table.

    Really lit your fire? Steve doesn't like Sirachcha so he'd possibly use
    his home made pseudo-Malinda's hot sauce.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, November 06, 2021 22:02:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    IMO, prices at health food stores are always inflated to the
    point of being unreasonable.

    Absolutely. And so many of their claims are dubious as well.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lemon Balm Elderberry Mojitos
    Categories: Alcohol, Beverages, Herb, Fruit
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Lemon Balm
    Sugar
    Lime juice
    Elderberry Syrup
    White rum
    7-UP or soda water

    Mojitos making is subject to your own taste and the ingredients that
    you have available. Here is my basic recipe. Go outside and pick a
    handful of mint of your choice. (Lemon balm will work too.) Put a
    half dozen leaves in the bottom of a tall glass or pitcher. Add
    sugar (some people like a lot, some like a little. Mostly it depends
    on if you are using lemon-lime soda or soda water later, as well as
    whatever your flavoring agent is). Use the back of a spoon to
    really bruise the mint flavor into the sugar. If you are not using
    another flavor such as elderberry, add a couple splashes of lime,
    which is the traditional flavor. At this point, I'll add a bit of
    elderberry syrup. Or fresh elderberry and mush them up too. Just
    don't swallow the seeds. (Once I even added a tsp of elderberry
    jelly that I had melted.) I've tried a lot of other things too. Wild
    blackberries, cantaloupe, watermelon, ginger, whatever. Mojito
    snobs add white rum at this point. However much you like, light or
    stiff. (I prefer the rich fragrant taste of dark rum in all
    things).

    Top it off with either a lemon-lime soda or a plain soda (depending
    on your taste and how much sugar you added previously). Drink.
    Repeat. It sounds complicated, but once you make it, you'll see it's
    a pretty simple and forgiving recipe.

    Heather Pier

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, November 06, 2021 22:04:00

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    Wheat berries are to wheat kernels as dried plums are to prunes.
    It's a marketing gimmick to inflate prices. And it worked!

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    I saw something in today's paper about the price of wheat going up
    world wide.

    That's true. It's currently trading at $10 and rising when it is
    usually in the $6-$8 range most years. Canadian and American
    production dropped this year due to hot, dry weather and yields
    declining as a result.

    We usually buy 50 pound sacks

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)
    We make it a few times every winter.

    It might be something we'll start doing too. Our main hot cereal in
    the winter is oatmeal, and it's not an every day one for us.

    We generally have an early lunch and a second late lunch and only
    have cereal or porridge as the first course of weekend brunches
    (along with other breakfast things). Now that there's snow on the
    ground we've stopped buying cold cereals and are stocking up on a
    number of porridges: steel cut oats, Red River blend (cracked wheat,
    rye and flax), yellow cornmeal and Cream of Wheat. Plus additional
    additives and flavourings such as wheat germ, bran, flax, chia,
    walnuts, almonds, raisins and dried cranberries.

    Title: Firecracker Tofu
    I recently made a version of it with cayenne mixed into the
    cornstarch and Sriracha at the table.

    Really lit your fire?

    Nah. Roslind likes her dishes fairly mild so I used a modest amount
    of cayenne. The Sriracha went on just on my portion.

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    Title: Pan-Roasted Gambas with Dried Herbs and Asparagus
    Categories: French, Shrimp, Dried, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    12 Gambas (Mediterranean
    Prawns)
    16 Green asparagus
    1 ts Chopped dried herbs: sage,
    Marjoram, savory in equal
    Proportions
    1 Lemon balm leaf
    4 Basil leaves
    1 Sprig of tarragon
    2 Cloves of garlic
    20 g Butter
    3 tb Sicilian olive oil
    Few drops of lemon juice
    1/2 ts Turmeric, salt and pepper

    Preparing the asparagus: Peel the asparagus; cook in boiling
    salted water (add 30 g salt per liter of water) for 6 minutes.
    Remove the asparagus and immerse immediately in ice water for a
    few seconds; drain and cool. Cut off the ends of the asparagus so
    the stalks are equal in length and cut into short pieces. Place
    the asparagus pieces into a skillet with 1 tsp. chopped tarragon,
    1 tbsp. olive oil, the butter, 50 ml water, a pinch of salt and a
    grinding of pepper. Bring to a boil and infuse for a minute over
    high heat. Add a few drops of lemon juice. Remove from the heat
    and set aside.

    Preparing the gambas: Peel the gambas, leaving the heads on;
    season each one with salt, pepper and a pinch of turmeric. Heat 2
    tbsp. olive oil in a skillet with the two crushed unpeeled cloves
    of garlic; add the gambas and cook for 2 minutes; turn, sprinkle
    with the chopped dried herbs, basil and lemon balm and cook 2
    minutes longer. Deglaze the skillet by adding 2 tbsp. water. Add
    the sauce from the asparagus.

    Presentation: Arrange the asparagus on a platter or individual
    plates; place the gambas on top, and spoon on the combined
    asparagus sauce and gamba pan juices.

    Jacques Chibois
    La Bastide
    Saint-Antoine
    South of France

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Monday, November 08, 2021 00:53:00
    On 11-06-21 22:02, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about wheat berries <=-

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    IMO, prices at health food stores are always inflated to the
    point of being unreasonable.

    Absolutely. And so many of their claims are dubious as well.

    I agree with that also. The only health food drugs I take are ones that
    my doctor recommends. AND, I buy them from Amazon for a lot less than
    they cost in the healt food store.

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    Title: Caribbean Squash And Sweet Potato Stew
    Categories: Low fat, Stew
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 md Onions, finely sliced
    1 c Water or vegetable broth
    1 Clove garlic, minced or
    Pressed
    1/2 ts Dried red pepper flakes
    1/2 ts Ground allspice
    16 oz Can tomatos
    1 sm Butternut squash (about 1
    1/2 lb ), peeled, seeded, cut into
    sm Chunks
    1 lb Sweet potatos, peeled and
    Cut into small chunks
    Pepper to taste
    16 oz Can black beans, drained
    2 Sprigs parsley, finely
    Chopped, for garnish
    1 Limes, cut in wedges, for
    Garnish

    Saute onions in water or basalmic vinegar.

    Add remaining ingredients, except black beans, parsley, limes. Cover
    cook on medium low heat until squash and potatos are cooked, about 20
    minutes.

    About 10 minutes before serving, add black beans and cook to heat
    through.

    Serve over rice, with parsley sprinkled over top for garnish, and a
    squeeze of lime.
    Date: 27 Sep 93 07:53:22 PDT
    From: <PSJAB%CO1@TS9.TEALE.CA.GOV>
    From: Jim Bakker

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Monday, November 08, 2021 11:25:44
    JIM WELLER wrote to RUTH HAFFLY <=-

    That's true. It's currently trading at $10 and rising when it is
    usually in the $6-$8 range most years. Canadian and American
    production dropped this year due to hot, dry weather and yields
    declining as a result.

    We usually buy 50 pound sacks

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    Or find a grain elevator. But in either case you have to buy in season
    as be prepared to store (and protect from vermin) the leftovers.

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    Title: Pan Roasted Long Island Duck Breast w/Peach Chutney
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Wine, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 c Ripe peaches; 1/2" cubes
    2 tb Fine diced celery
    2 tb Fine dice carrot
    2 tb Fine dice red onion
    2 tb Rendered duck fat
    1 tb Agave syrup
    pn Salt
    1/4 c Dry white wine
    2 ts Ginger powder
    4 Duck breasts; skin on,
    - seasoned w/blend of ginger
    - powder, salt, white pepper
    - cumin powder in equal
    - parts
    1/2 c Farro
    1/2 c Wheat berries
    1/2 c Kasha
    1/4 c (ea) diced celery, onion,
    - carrots
    3 tb Chopped parsley
    3 tb Butter
    Salt & fresh white pepper
    1/4 c Chicken stock

    GRAINS: Start by heating 3 saute pans over high flame,
    then add the 3 grains, one to each pan. Toast the grains
    until they begin to smoke, then add 1/2 cup water to
    each and reduce flame by half. Keep feeding the grains
    with water 1/4 cup at a time and stir until they begin
    to soften (kasha will soften first). Once al dente
    remove from heat and place in a bowl, mix the grains
    together and place in the fridge holding cold for
    service.

    DUCK: Set the oven @ 450ºF/232ºC and place 2 saute pans
    on high flame on the stovetop. Place 2 seasoned duck
    breasts in each pan, skin side down, and allow the fat
    to render for 5 minutes. Then drain off the rendered fat
    and flip the breasts over in the hot pans, place in the
    oven and roast for 5 minutes or until cooked to your
    liking.

    CHUTNEY: To make the Peach Chutney place a saute pan on
    medium flame, combine the duck fat and the mirepoix
    (celery, onion, carrots), stir for 1 minute, then add
    the peaches, followed by the rest of the ingredients.
    Simmer over medium flame for 5 minutes.

    In another pan on medium flame bring the mirepoix to
    heat with butter for 1 minute, then add the 3-grain
    mixture, add parsley, salt and pepper and stir until
    heated through. Once the 3-grain mixture is warm, add
    1/4 cup of chicken stock and hold warm until you’re
    ready to serve.

    Remove the duck breasts from the oven and allow them to
    rest for a few minutes prior to slicing. Plate the
    3-grain pilaf on to each of 4 plates, then top with
    sliced duck breast and finally finish each plate with
    the Ginger-Peach Chutney.

    Colin Ambrose, Owner & Executive Chef | Estia's American

    RECIPE FROM: http://estiascafe.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Monday, November 08, 2021 12:06:22
    Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    IMO, prices at health food stores are always inflated to the
    point of being unreasonable.

    Absolutely. And so many of their claims are dubious as well.

    I agree with that also. The only health food drugs I take are ones
    that my doctor recommends. AND, I buy them from Amazon for a lot less than they cost in the healt food store.

    I've worked out a list of supplements on which I rely and they've been reviewed and approved by my primary care croaker.

    I used to use "Food Fantasies" for my "supplements". But they changed
    ownership and went all 'snooty' on me. Plus they seem to be out-of-stock whenever I go in to buy some of my staples. So, I found Puritan's Pride on-line. I do recommend them without reservation.

    https://www.puritan.com

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    Title: Puritan Backroom-Style Chicken Tenders
    Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 c Water
    1/4 c Oil
    1/2 c Duck sauce
    Salt & pepper
    2 lb Chicken tenders; trimmed
    1 3/4 c A-P flour
    1/4 c Cornstarch
    2 ts Baking powder
    1 1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper; more to
    - taste
    1/2 c Oil; for broiling

    At first, make the seasoning for the chicken pieces.
    Take vegetable oil in a mixing bowl and add duck sauce
    to it. Then add in the garlic powder and cayenne to
    bring in a savory tang to the seasoning.

    The spicier flavour is added the smokier taste is
    enhanced. Mix all the ingredients for a couple of
    minutes. When the marinade gets perfectly mixed, then
    place the chicken pieces in the bowl.

    Rub the chicken on all sides to give an even coating of
    the seasoning. This marinating process can be done in
    zip lock bags too. Prepare the seasoning in the bag and
    mix the chicken in it.

    When the meats get properly coated, store in the
    refrigerator for a couple of hours. Then prepare the
    broiler and heat while the chicken is chilled. Then
    release the chicken pieces in the broiler and sprinkle
    salt and pepper on top.

    Cook the chicken fully drowned in the oil until the
    outer layer gets a light golden texture. Then take out
    the chicken and marinate with the remaining marinade
    sauce and cook for additional 10 minutes.

    Finally, take them out and garnish with parsley and
    lemon juice on top before serving.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.cookscountry.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Monday, November 08, 2021 11:22:51
    Hi Jim,


    It's $10 per bushel (60 pounds) at the farm gate these days but as
    high as $5.69 per pound at a health food store!

    I saw something in today's paper about the price of wheat going up
    world wide.

    That's true. It's currently trading at $10 and rising when it is
    usually in the $6-$8 range most years. Canadian and American
    production dropped this year due to hot, dry weather and yields
    declining as a result.


    So it now costs more dough to make dough. (G)


    We usually buy 50 pound sacks

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    I don't know any farmers around here that grow it. The farmers I buy
    from at the weekly market are all produce or meat farmers. Got some beef chorizo about a month ago from one of the latter, have been back twice
    for more. We also picked up a spaghetti squash from them, sweet potatoes
    from one of our favorite farmers and some radishes & spinach from
    another grower. Also got a slice of cheesecake & meat filled (gound beef
    with habenero sauce) turnovers from one baker & a slice of pumpkin cake
    with caramel icing from another one. A good haul!

    kutia (Russian/Ukrainian wheat berry porridge?)
    We make it a few times every winter.

    It might be something we'll start doing too. Our main hot cereal in
    the winter is oatmeal, and it's not an every day one for us.

    We generally have an early lunch and a second late lunch and only
    have cereal or porridge as the first course of weekend brunches
    (along with other breakfast things). Now that there's snow on the
    ground we've stopped buying cold cereals and are stocking up on a
    number of porridges: steel cut oats, Red River blend (cracked wheat,
    rye and flax), yellow cornmeal and Cream of Wheat. Plus additional additives and flavourings such as wheat germ, bran, flax, chia,
    walnuts, almonds, raisins and dried cranberries.


    Steve usually has breakfast earlier than I do and has it out (men's
    Bible study & meeting with Legion guys) twice a week. Yesterday we had
    warm apple pie with milk & extra sharp cheddar cheese (he added almonds
    also) for breakfast together before heading out to church. We had frost
    a couple of nights last week but no snow yet.

    cornstarch and Sriracha at the table.

    Really lit your fire?

    Nah. Roslind likes her dishes fairly mild so I used a modest amount
    of cayenne. The Sriracha went on just on my portion.

    Best to make it to the tolerance of the least tolerant person. The meat turnovers we got at the market had a nice tingle, but not a "blow the
    doors off" heat. I don't think I would have wanted them any hotter; I
    was able to enjoy the taste at this heat level.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to DAVE DRUM on Tuesday, November 09, 2021 21:05:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    We usually buy 50 pound sacks

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    Or find a grain elevator.

    I don't know how things work in the USA but almost all the grain
    elevators in Canada belong to one of two corporate behemoths:the G3
    (Global Grain Group) which is a joint venture of US agribusiness
    corp. Bunge Limited and Saudi Arabian agricultural investment firm
    SALIC) which purchased the privatized Canadian Wheat Board and
    Viterra Inc. another multinational which has acquired most of the
    provincial wheat pools which started out as farmer owned co-ops.

    They are not to going to let you on the premises let alone carry on
    a small over the counter cash and carry business. They are massive
    concrete structures.

    The quaint little wooden grain elevators scattered around the
    railways of the western provinces which still stand (a few hundred
    out of tens of thousands) are all long vacant and totally derelict
    or else completely re-purposed.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Foolproof Yorkshire Puddings
    Categories: British, Quickbreads, Popovers, Tnt, Side dish
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Eggs
    1 c Plain flour
    1 c Milk
    1 pn Salt

    The greatest living Yorkshire chef, Brian Turner, has a really simple
    and foolproof recipe for Yorkshire puddings.

    Naturally you can use the 1:1:1 ratio of eggs, flour and milk to make
    the pudding in any quantity you desire. Also you can add herbs to
    the mixture to make a savoury pudding. Preheat the oven to fairly hot
    (or set it at the temperature at which you are going to cook your
    joint of beef) Add a small drop of oil or beef fat to the bottom of a
    roasting tin or into each compartment of a Yorkshire pudding tin and
    place at the top of the oven to be getting really hot. It is
    important that whatever container you use it should be metal. It
    doesn't seem to rise or crisp properly in any other material. Mix
    together all the ingredients to form a batter with the consistency of
    double cream. When the oil in the tin is beginning to smoke add the
    batter until it comes just below the level of the tin (it should rise
    when cooked). Put the tin back into the top of the oven and leave for
    15 to 20 minutes by which time the puddings should be well-risen and
    crisp.

    When I was a boy we would have Yorkshire pudding at every course of
    our Sunday dinner. We would always start with a slice of the pudding
    served with a savoury gravy. This is the traditional way to eat it
    as it was intended to fill the family so that they would require less
    of the expensive meat. The second course was the beef with the
    pudding and a selection of vegetables, always including roast
    potatoes and usually roast parsnips. If there was any pudding left
    it would be served to the children with Golden Syrup (a bit like US
    corn syrup). It is a typical Yorkshire way of making a little go a
    long way on a small budget.

    Ian Rice Stockport England

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    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, November 11, 2021 06:39:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    We usually buy 50 pound sacks

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    Or find a grain elevator.

    I don't know how things work in the USA but almost all the grain
    elevators in Canada belong to one of two corporate behemoths:the G3 (Global Grain Group) which is a joint venture of US agribusiness
    corp. Bunge Limited and Saudi Arabian agricultural investment firm
    SALIC) which purchased the privatized Canadian Wheat Board and
    Viterra Inc. another multinational which has acquired most of the provincial wheat pools which started out as farmer owned co-ops.

    It's trending that way with ADM (Archer Daniels Midland) and Con Agra.
    But, there are still several independent operations in my area. The
    Bradfordton CO-OP - which also sells parts and supplies to farmers -
    web presence http://bradfordton-elevator.hub.biz/

    Grain elevator and animal supply store. Shop our stain removers, horse
    feed, pet food & supplies, and more! Part of the Farm Product Raw
    Material Merchant Wholesalers Industry. Bradfordton Cooperative Assn
    Inc. Has 6 total employees across all of its locations and generates
    $1.72 million in sales (USD).

    They are not to going to let you on the premises let alone carry on
    a small over the counter cash and carry business. They are massive concrete structures.

    Maybe your guys are being dicks about it. My guys are money grubbers.

    The quaint little wooden grain elevators scattered around the
    railways of the western provinces which still stand (a few hundred
    out of tens of thousands) are all long vacant and totally derelict
    or else completely re-purposed.

    That may be true on the steppes of Canadia.

    Going the other direction a few miles out of Springfield there is Ramsey
    Grain Company in Rochester and Berry, IL. They've been at it since 1964
    when Bob Ramsey bought out Al Mavis. Bob passed on in August and his wife continues in the business.

    https://tinyurl.com/RAMSEY-PIX will give you a photo. A railroad used
    to split the elevator silos. But the C&IM/B&O took up their tracks and
    went elsewhere. The old right-of-way in now a bike/hike path. And, I am
    told, a very nice one for those athletically inclined.

    The white frame building contains the retail operation(s) and offices.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grandma Abson's Fat Rascals
    Categories: Desserts, Snacks, Breads, Fruits, Nuts
    Yield: 11 Rascals

    8 oz (225 g or 8 heaped tb) self
    - raising flour
    4 oz (110 g) butter
    2 oz (50 g) caster sugar
    4 oz (110 g) raisins, sultanas,
    - currants & glace cherries
    1 oz (25 g) flaked almonds
    1 ts Cinnamon
    1 ts Nutmeg
    Zest of 1 lemon or orange
    7 tb Milk
    2 lg Eggs
    1 oz (25 g) demerara sugar

    Sieve the flour and salt and rub in the butter. Add the
    sugar, cinnamon, nutmeg and lemon or orange zest and
    dried fruit/glace cherries. Beat the eggs and milk and
    add to the mixture to make a soft dough. Roll out to
    1/2" - 3/4" thick and cut in rounds w/pastry cutter.

    This makes around 10 to 12. Place on baking tray and
    sprinkle a little demerara sugar on the top of each one.

    Bake in a hot oven for 15 minutes (425ºF/Mark 7/220ºC).

    Yield: 10 to 12 fat rascals

    RECIPE FROM: https://grandmaabson.blogspot.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, November 11, 2021 22:04:00

    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Jim Weller <=-

    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    I don't know any farmers around here that grow it.

    I did some digging, came across this article and learned a few
    things ...

    https://homegrown.extension.ncsu.edu
    North Carolina's Wheat Industry
    July 19, 2021 Justin Moore

    In most years, North Carolina grows anywhere from 400,000 to 500,000
    acres of wheat. While most of that wheat goes to feed livestock,
    roughly 7 million bushels of North Carolina wheat is processed into high-quality flours ...

    Low gluten, soft winter wheat varieties, account for the majority of
    North Carolina grown wheat, are used mostly in cakes, pastries, pie
    and crust and pancakes.

    They are unsuitable for bread making.

    You want northern high gluten hard spring wheat.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Yorkshire Fat Rascals (Turf Cakes)
    Categories: British, Quickbreads, Biscuits, Fruit
    Yield: 32 Servings

    1 lb Plain flour
    8 oz Butter
    4 oz Currants
    2 oz Brown sugar
    Salt
    Milk and water mixed
    Icing sugar

    Similar to a north country Singing Hinny.

    Rub the butter into the flour, add the currants, sugar and salt. Mix
    in enough milk and water to make a slack dough. Roll out to 1/2"
    thick, cut into rounds and dust with icing sugar. Put on a greased
    baking tray and bake in a moderately hot oven until lightly browned.

    MMMMM




    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to JIM WELLER on Saturday, November 13, 2021 13:37:58
    Hi Jim,


    Befriend a farmer and buy from the source!

    I don't know any farmers around here that grow it.

    I did some digging, came across this article and learned a few
    things ...

    https://homegrown.extension.ncsu.edu
    North Carolina's Wheat Industry
    July 19, 2021 Justin Moore

    Fairly recent article.

    In most years, North Carolina grows anywhere from 400,000 to 500,000
    acres of wheat. While most of that wheat goes to feed livestock,
    roughly 7 million bushels of North Carolina wheat is processed into high-quality flours ...

    That's a good bit of wheat but I still don't know farmers that grow it.
    The ones I deal with at the market do meat and produce; have to ask if
    any of them know if wheat is grown locally.

    Low gluten, soft winter wheat varieties, account for the majority of
    North Carolina grown wheat, are used mostly in cakes, pastries, pie
    and crust and pancakes.

    They are unsuitable for bread making.

    True, but I do use the softer wheat. A couple of years ago, the person
    we order our wheat from (he heads up a co-op) couldn't get any soft
    wheat. We ended up ordering it thru Amazon.


    You want northern high gluten hard spring wheat.

    Yes, we usually use something like Bronze Chief--buy it by the 50 pound
    sack and grind it as needed. I'm about to use up the last of what's
    ground in bread making next week so will have to get out the mill again.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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