• Broke pasta

    From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to All on Sunday, January 16, 2022 13:01:20
    Due to a false positive I was off work quite a lot over the last couple ofweeks.
    No Frills had bacon on for only $2.99 a package (Normally around $6.99) so Igot a package of that.

    1/2 a package of bacon chopped and fried.
    Remove bacon to a bowl
    1 onion fried about 5 mins
    1/2 a brick frozen spinish (nuked for 2 mins)
    Add spinish and bacon and some olive oil.
    Add cooked pasta (about 1/4 box mac I used)
    add the last of a bit of shredded cheese
    bit of pasta water toss to combine and eat.

    We called it broke pasta. I also added (to my portion) some hot pepper flakes, black pepper, and pink pepper (just because) and a bit of parsley.

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sunday, January 16, 2022 13:34:02
    Shawn Highfield wrote to All <=-

    We called it broke pasta. I also added (to my portion)

    Broke or not, sounds good. Much like my "accidental chili mac" I made the other day by scrounging around in my pantry and freezer. I should write
    that recipe down one of these days.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Monday, January 17, 2022 06:10:00
    Shawn Highfield wrote to All <=-

    Due to a false positive I was off work quite a lot over the last couple ofweeks. No Frills had bacon on for only $2.99 a package (Normally
    around $6.99) so Igot a package of that.

    1/2 a package of bacon chopped and fried.
    Remove bacon to a bowl
    1 onion fried about 5 mins
    1/2 a brick frozen spinish (nuked for 2 mins)
    Add spinish and bacon and some olive oil.
    Add cooked pasta (about 1/4 box mac I used)
    add the last of a bit of shredded cheese
    bit of pasta water toss to combine and eat.

    We called it broke pasta. I also added (to my portion) some hot pepper flakes, black pepper, and pink pepper (just because) and a bit of
    parsley.

    When I was going back to school in the 1960s and working eveniings as
    the toll-taker at a perking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty
    suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    Of course in '68 the mac 'n cheeze was 10c, the burger was 79c/lb and
    the soup was 15c/20c per can.

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    Min wage in '68 was U$1.25/hr. Min wage (in my state) currently is
    U$12/hr. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Poverty Soup
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Pasta, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Serving

    3 tb Tomato paste
    1 c Water
    Mixed herbs
    1/2 c Gnocchi; cooked (opt)
    1/2 c Peas & corn; thawed (opt)
    1/4 c Chickpeas; drained (opt)
    2 tb Cottage cheese (opt)
    Salt % pepper

    Place gnocci (or any other cooked pasta) in a bowl with
    frozen veggies/beans. Pour in tomato paste and mixed
    herbs.

    Pour on water and mix well. Taste for desired consistancy.

    Microwave on med-high, until bubbly and heated through.

    Top with cottage cheese and pepper. I needed no salt.

    I also added 1 tbsp of my mum's home-made spicy tomato
    sauce. Its a very flexible recipe.

    By Bronwyn MacArthur

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dave Drum on Monday, January 17, 2022 12:18:26
    Re: Broke pasta
    By: Dave Drum to Shawn Highfield on Mon Jan 17 2022 06:10 am

    Shawn Highfield wrote to All <=-

    Due to a false positive I was off work quite a lot over the last couple ofweeks. No Frills had bacon on for only $2.99 a package (Normally around $6.99) so Igot a package of that.

    1/2 a package of bacon chopped and fried.
    Remove bacon to a bowl
    1 onion fried about 5 mins
    1/2 a brick frozen spinish (nuked for 2 mins)
    Add spinish and bacon and some olive oil.
    Add cooked pasta (about 1/4 box mac I used)
    add the last of a bit of shredded cheese
    bit of pasta water toss to combine and eat.

    We called it broke pasta. I also added (to my portion) some hot pepper flakes, black pepper, and pink pepper (just because) and a bit of parsley.

    When I was going back to school in the 1960s and working eveniings as
    the toll-taker at a perking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty
    suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    Of course in '68 the mac 'n cheeze was 10c, the burger was 79c/lb and
    the soup was 15c/20c per can.

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    Min wage in '68 was U$1.25/hr. Min wage (in my state) currently is
    U$12/hr. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Poverty Soup
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Pasta, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Serving

    3 tb Tomato paste
    1 c Water
    Mixed herbs
    1/2 c Gnocchi; cooked (opt)
    1/2 c Peas & corn; thawed (opt)
    1/4 c Chickpeas; drained (opt)
    2 tb Cottage cheese (opt)
    Salt % pepper

    Place gnocci (or any other cooked pasta) in a bowl with
    frozen veggies/beans. Pour in tomato paste and mixed
    herbs.

    Pour on water and mix well. Taste for desired consistancy.

    Microwave on med-high, until bubbly and heated through.

    Top with cottage cheese and pepper. I needed no salt.

    I also added 1 tbsp of my mum's home-made spicy tomato
    sauce. Its a very flexible recipe.

    By Bronwyn MacArthur

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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    LOL! Reminds me of 'outa-stuff cooking' line I ran. I find it amazing that so many do not have these basic tricks. The younger they are, the less often they do.

    Frankly blame busy parents age now around 40, who didn't pass on basic cookery to their kids. Me? I made a game with Charlotte that goes back to when she was 7 in Sasebo and we expanded it when she was 10 am moved into base housing. That became 'flock stew' and such things.

    Last night we had home made pizza. I wanted to tinker but I also wanted lots of timeslots to work on some BBS things here (Sorry Dave, havent fixed the 5 echos on 1:275/100 yet).

    Dough made in a bread machine:
    3 cups flour (all purpose)
    1 cup water
    3/4 tsp salt
    1 tsp yeast
    spices as desired (I added 1tsp garlic powder and 1 tsp dried chives)
    4 tsp olive oil

    1.5 hours later you can shape to a thick crust or roll to 2 thin crusts.

    Sauce was a simple red made the day before.

    2 28oz cans crushed tomatoes
    1 12 oz can tomatoes with chilis (rotel works)
    1 16 oz can tomato sauce
    1 TB dried minced onion
    1 tsp Whiskey Smoked black Pepper
    1 tsp Garlic powder
    3/4 lb ground beef
    3/4 lb raw sausage

    Pizza topped with fresh cut onion, bell pepper, Pepperoni, various cheeses

    Dough makes 6-12 servings depending on thin or thick crust for a cost of 38cents production.

    The red sauce costs about 5$ total but has 12 or more servings (closer to 32 servings if topping a pizza only). It's about 40cents per 1/2cup.

    Add-on items to the pizza were about 50cents for whole pizza.

    38+40+50=1.28 /6 = 21 cents a slice.

    Works well!

    I also made a simple pasta bake with the red sauce.

    1 cup dry pasta (use type of choice but I used Cellentani this time)
    1/2 to 1 cup red sauce
    1 cup grated cheese

    Make the pasta and drain then add the rest with 1/2 cup of the cheese for the top. Put a lid on the casserole for the first 35 minutes at 350F then remove the lid for the last 10 mins.

    15+40+50=1.05 total and 6 servings is 17cents a serving.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, January 18, 2022 09:48:02
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    the toll-taker at a perking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    Done that in the past, now the boxed mac & cheese that is gluten free is
    too expensive. Can make it cheaper from scratch. ;)

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    Annes GF mac & cheese = $1.97, ground tube meat = $5.97, Aylmer GF
    cream of mushroom soup = $0.97. So I guess it's still a cheap(ish) meal.

    Min wage in '68 was U$1.25/hr. Min wage (in my state) currently is U$12/hr. Bv)=

    $15/hr here now, in '68 in ontario $1.16

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Carol Shenkenberger on Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:23:18
    Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I was going back to school in the 1960s and working eveniings as
    the toll-taker at a perking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty
    suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    Of course in '68 the mac 'n cheeze was 10c, the burger was 79c/lb and
    the soup was 15c/20c per can.

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    Min wage in '68 was U$1.25/hr. Min wage (in my state) currently is
    U$12/hr. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Poverty Soup
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese, Pasta, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Serving

    LOL! Reminds me of 'outa-stuff cooking' line I ran. I find it amazing that so many do not have these basic tricks. The younger they are, the less often they do.

    Frankly blame busy parents age now around 40, who didn't pass on basic cookery to their kids. Me? I made a game with Charlotte that goes
    back to when she was 7 in Sasebo and we expanded it when she was 10 am moved into base housing. That became 'flock stew' and such things.

    Probably because the parents can't cook either. A friend of mine married
    a wife whose cooking skills went as far as "boil in bag" and nuked Marie Callender entrees.

    As for kids not learning to cook - I blame McDonalds and the easily
    available and cheap fats food more than lazy parents.

    I once self-published a little cook booklet entitled "Cooking for
    Bachelors and the Newly Single". It contained easy to fix recipes of
    "can opener cookery" that didn't look or taste like can opener cuisine.

    S.O.S., Tuna & Noodles, Chilli Mac, etc. all were first printed in my
    newspaper column "The Dim View: Reflections in a Jaundiced Eye".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Tuna On Shingle - The Dim View
    Categories: Seafood, Soups, Dairy, Breads
    Yield: 3 Servings

    10 oz (2 cans) tuna; drained *
    1/3 c Diced bell pepper
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1/4 ts Granulated garlic
    10 3/4 oz Can Cream of Celery soup
    3 tb Milk; as needed
    Toasted bread or muffins

    This is super easy and makes a great breakfast, light
    lunch or supper. A country-style toasted bread makes
    this dish.

    Saute bell peppers until wilted.

    Add undiluted soup, season with pepper and garlic.

    Fold tuna into soup mixture being careful not to break
    too much. Add 2 or 3 tbs milk or more to achieve creamy
    consistency.

    Heat to simmer.

    Serve over toast of your choice.

    * Note: This can also be done with leftover salmon

    From: The Dim View Column; 10 October 1969

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:00:40
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    the toll-taker at a parking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    I see that the city is going to demolish that "dilapidated" parking ramp
    and another couple of adjacent properties to build a downtown campus for
    the University of Illinois - Springfield. Makes me feel old, that does.
    The ramp was still fairly new when I worked in the toll booth. But if
    I do the math ... that was over 50 years ago. Sheesh.

    Done that in the past, now the boxed mac & cheese that is gluten free
    is too expensive. Can make it cheaper from scratch. ;)

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    Annes GF mac & cheese = $1.97, ground tube meat = $5.97, Aylmer GF
    cream of mushroom soup = $0.97. So I guess it's still a cheap(ish)
    meal.

    Is that C$5.97/lb or 3 lb? Or the equivalent in grams/kilograms?

    Min wage in '68 was U$1.25/hr. Min wage (in my state) currently is U$12/hr. Bv)=

    $15/hr here now, in '68 in ontario $1.16

    We're going up U$1 every year until we hit U$15/hour which someone seems
    to think is a magick number for a "living wage". All it's going to do is
    drive prices for staple items higher ... which will move the "living wage" target further upward. It's a never ending cycle.

    ... What is a "free gift"? Aren't all gifts free?

    Especially Covid, the gift that keeps on giving.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fresh Gluten-Free Pasta
    Categories: Five, Pasta, Rice
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 c Brown rice flour; more for
    - dusting (7 1/2 oz; 212 g)
    1/2 c Tapioca starch (2 oz; 56 g)
    1 ts Xanthan gum
    4 lg Eggs (approx 7 oz; 200 g out
    - of shell)

    In large bowl, whisk together brown rice flour, tapioca
    starch, and xanthan gum. Add eggs. Switch to a wooden
    spoon and stir until a dough forms. Generously dust your
    counter with brown rice flour. Turn dough out onto
    counter and knead a few times until fairly smooth.

    Divide dough into four equal pieces and work with 1
    piece at a time, keeping the rest covered. Press the
    dough to flatten it slightly. Using a pasta machine set
    at the widest setting, run the dough through 2 times.
    Continue rolling dough through successively narrower
    settings until you reach the second-to-last setting.

    Cut dough sheet in half horizontally and pass each
    through the fettuccine cutter. (The spaghetti setting is
    too thin for this gluten-free pasta.) Dust pasta with
    brown rice flour and place on a rimmed baking sheet.
    Repeat with remaining dough pieces.

    Bring a pot of salted water to a boil. Cook half the
    batch of pasta until tender, about 5 minutes. Toss with
    sauce. Repeat with remaining pasta. Serve immediately.

    RECIPE FROM: https://glutenfreebaking.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Tuesday, January 18, 2022 00:50:02
    On 01-17-22 06:10, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Shawn Highfield about Broke pasta <=-

    When I was going back to school in the 1960s and working eveniings as
    the toll-taker at a perking garage (min-wage gig) my go-to "poverty suppers" were often a generic box of mac & cheese, a pound of ground
    beef, and a can of "store brand" (cheap) cream of mushroom soup. Fed
    two generously w/leftovers. Bv)=

    It is strange how the things we learn when we are struggling on a low
    income budget can stick with us later in life when we might not need to
    be as frugal (note that I did not say cheap).

    Of course in '68 the mac 'n cheeze was 10c, the burger was 79c/lb and
    the soup was 15c/20c per can.

    I can recall sirloin steak at 79c per pound, but that was in the very
    early 60s.

    Now the mac & cheese is 59c (store brand), the hamburg is U$2.39/lb,
    and generic/store brand cream of mushroom is U$1/can. Bv)=

    I've not seen hamburger as low priced as $2.39/lb in a long time.
    Around here it is about $3.99 for 80%, and higher prices up to $6.99/lb
    for 93%.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Ham Stuffed Potatoes
    Categories: Side dish, Vegetable, Sthrn/livng
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 lg Baking potatoes
    Vegetable oil
    1 Egg; separated
    1/2 c Ham; cooked, finely chopped
    1/4 c Milk
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper

    Scrub potatoes thoroughly, and rub skins with oil; bake at 400
    degrees for 1 to 1-1/4 hours or until done.

    Allow to cool to touch. Slice skin away from top of each potato.
    Carefully scoop out pulp, leaving shells intact; mash pulp.

    Beat egg yolks; add ham, milk, salt, and pepper. Stir into potato
    pulp, mixing well. Beat egg white until stiff peaks form; fold into
    potato mixture. Stuff shells with mixture. Bake at 450 degrees for
    10 minutes or until lightly browned.

    SOURCE: Southern Living Magazine, October, 1979.
    Typed for you by Nancy Coleman
    From: Nancy Coleman Date: 30 Mar 94

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:49:42
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    that does. The ramp was still fairly new when I worked in the toll
    booth. But if I do the math ... that was over 50 years ago. Sheesh.

    Don't do math Dave, it's never worth figuring out how old you are. :)

    Is that C$5.97/lb or 3 lb? Or the equivalent in grams/kilograms?

    $5.97/lb I used the same measurements you did in your post. Those
    were also walmart.ca prices as their website is the easist one to
    nagivate for that stuff.

    We're going up U$1 every year until we hit U$15/hour which someone
    seems to think is a magick number for a "living wage". All it's going
    to do is drive prices for staple items higher ... which will move the "living wage" target further upward. It's a never ending cycle.

    Yes it is. Now we are back to a two income family in about a year when
    we have paid down the credit card debt we racked up just trying to stay
    afloat things might look brighter! ;)

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:29:42
    Hello Dale,

    Tuesday January 18 2022 00:50, you wrote to Dave Drum:

    It is strange how the things we learn when we are struggling on a low income budget can stick with us later in life when we might not need
    to be as frugal (note that I did not say cheap).

    I think that is a good thing. After being blessed with a good income and the ability to buy tons of food, now that I am on SNAP and faced with a very limited food budget (but don't get me wrong; I am grateful to have a food budget at all), the lessons learned earlier in life have come to be of very good use now. Much like Dave's "mushroom mac and cheese", I have come up with creative uses of basic food items.

    I also now have an old Foodsaavewr thanks to my parents and that comes in handy with freezing meat that I buy at the beginning of the month to last throughout the month. When I can get a chest freezer, that will be even better.

    I've not seen hamburger as low priced as $2.39/lb in a long time.
    Around here it is about $3.99 for 80%, and higher prices up to
    $6.99/lb for 93%.

    Hamburger is very expensive in my area too. The cheapest I have seen it is $2.99/lb at ALDI. There are other stores in my area that may have it cheaper but unfortunately it is very difficult for me to go to those storews. Friday, my parents are going to be in town and they are going to take me to a well-known local "discount" supermarket to stock up on a big canned goods sale the store is having.

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    Title: Country Pork Sausage
    Categories: Breakfast
    Yield: 1 Servings

    8 lb Boneless pork but or
    -shoulder, cut into 1 1/2"
    -cubes
    1/2 To 1 - red pepper
    3 tb Salt
    2 ts Black pepper
    2 ts Dried sage

    Assemble food grinder with desired grinding disc. Grind pork. Combine
    pork and seasonings. Shape into patties or stuff in link sausage,
    using the sausage making accessory.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:38:26
    Hello Shawn,

    Wednesday January 19 2022 10:49, you wrote to Dave Drum:

    Yes it is. Now we are back to a two income family in about a year
    when we have paid down the credit card debt we racked up just trying
    to stay afloat things might look brighter! ;)

    That's great news. :D

    === Cut ===
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    Title: Cranberry Coffee Cake
    Categories: Breakfast, Zzz
    Yield: 9 Servings

    1 c Butter; softened
    1 c Sugar
    2 Eggs
    2 c All-purpose flour
    1 ts Baking powder
    1 ts Baking soda
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 c Sour cream
    1 ts Almond extract
    1 cn Whole berry cranberry sauce
    -(16 oz)
    1/2 c Walnuts; chopped

    MMMMM----------------------GLAZE (OPTIONAL---------------------------
    1/3 c Confectioner's sugar
    5 ts Warm water
    1/2 ts Almond extract

    In a mixing bowl, cream butter and sugar. Add eggs; mix well. Combine
    flour, baking powder, baking soda and salt; add to creamed mixture
    alternately with sour cream. Add extract. Spoon a third of the batter
    into a 9-inch baking pan. Top with a third of the cranberry sauce.
    Repeat layers twice. Sprinkle with walnuts. Bake at 350 for 55-60
    minutes.

    Combine glaze ingredients and drizzle over cake. - optional.

    Recipe by: Taste of Home

    Posted to MC-Recipe Digest V1 #854 by John Setzler <jms@twave.net> on
    Oct 20, 1997

    MMMMM

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Tuesday, January 18, 2022 21:26:00

    Quoting Shawn Highfield to All <=-

    bacon [and] spinish

    That sounds like a good combination. I'll try it soon.

    We called it broke pasta.

    With the price of bacon these days, not so broke.

    Another bacon and pasta thing:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Flemish Beef-And-Beer Stew
    Categories: Belgian, Bacon, Beef, Pasta, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 lb Boneless chuck or round
    -steak; 1 inch thick
    1/4 lb Bacon
    4 md Onions; sliced
    1 cl Garlic; chopped
    3 tb Flour
    1 c water
    12 oz Dark beer
    1 Bay leaf
    1 tb Brown sugar; packed
    2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Dried thyme leaves
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1 tb Vinegar
    Snipped parsley
    Hot cooked noodles

    Cut beef into 1/2 inch slices; cut slices into 2 inch strips. (For
    ease in cutting, partially freeze beef about 1 1/2 hours.) Cut bacon
    into 1/4 inch pieces; fry in Dutch oven until crisp. Remove bacon
    with slotted spoon; drain on paper towels. Pour off fat and reserve.
    Cook and stir onions and garlic in 2 tablespoons of the reserved
    bacon fat until tender, about 10 minutes. Remove onions. Cook and
    stir beef in remaining bacon fat until brown, about 15 minutes.

    Stir in flour to coat beef; gradually stir in water. Add onions;
    beer, bay leaf, brown sugar, salt, thyme, and pepper. Add just
    enough water to cover beef if necessary. Heat to boiling; reduce
    heat. Cover and simmer until beef is tender, 1 to 1 1/2 hours.
    Remove bay leaf. Stir in vinegar; sprinkle with bacon and parsley.
    Serve with noodles.

    Source: Betty Crocker's International Cookbook.

    Shared by Judi M. Phelps


    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Someone please explain why I have to pay full price for Swiss cheese?

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:00:22
    JIM WELLER wrote to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

    bacon [and] spinish
    That sounds like a good combination. I'll try it soon.

    It was!

    We called it broke pasta.
    With the price of bacon these days, not so broke.

    No frills - $3.50 a package. Marked down from six something.
    Only time I can afford it.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:08:08
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    that does. The ramp was still fairly new when I worked in the toll
    booth. But if I do the math ... that was over 50 years ago. Sheesh.

    Don't do math Dave, it's never worth figuring out how old you are. :)

    's no use. I am reminded of my age several times daily. I'm amazed that
    I can still get into the messes I find myself in at my advanced stage
    of life. Too bad it's harder and harder to get out of them as I get
    older. Bv)=

    Is that C$5.97/lb or 3 lb? Or the equivalent in grams/kilograms?

    $5.97/lb I used the same measurements you did in your post. Those
    were also walmart.ca prices as their website is the easist one to
    nagivate for that stuff.

    I'm pretty fortunate in this area having two shops that are also working abattoirs (Humphrey's and Magro's Meats) so transport costs are minimal.
    And it's dead easy to get special requests and custom cuts.

    Humphrey's even has a deal that if you harvest a deer - either by hunting
    or with your vehicle - they will process it for you gratis ... if you]
    donate 25% of the meat to one of the feed-the-homeless/hungry charities
    in town.

    The venison sauerbraten I made for the Echo Picnic my sister and I had
    in Y2K came from that plan.

    We're going up U$1 every year until we hit U$15/hour which someone
    seems to think is a magick number for a "living wage". All it's going
    to do is drive prices for staple items higher ... which will move the "living wage" target further upward. It's a never ending cycle.

    Yes it is. Now we are back to a two income family in about a year when
    we have paid down the credit card debt we racked up just trying to stay afloat things might look brighter! ;)

    I am somewhat fortunate in that I have only the 2.5K remaining om my
    home equity loan - which I took out to pay for a new roof, removing a
    large maple tree (7 feet across at ground level) from my back yard and
    other needed improvements. I could have paid for them from my on hand
    bank balances but didn't want to go bavk to living payday to payday.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    MMMMM----------------------------RUB---------------------------------
    2 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground ginger

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Water
    2 c Cider or red wine vinegar
    1/3 c Sugar
    2 md Onions; peeled, sliced,
    - divided
    2 tb Mixed pickling spice;
    - divided
    1 ts Whole peppercorns; divided
    8 Whole cloves; divided
    2 Turkish bay leaves; divided
    2 tb Oil

    In a small bowl, combine salt and ginger; rub over meat.

    Place in a deep glass bowl. In a large bowl, combine the
    water, vinegar and sugar. Pour half of marinade into a
    large saucepan; add half of the onions, pickling spices,
    peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Bring to a boil. Pour
    over roast; turn to coat. Cover and refrigerate for 2 - 4
    days, turning twice a day.

    To the remaining marinade, add the remaining onions,
    pickling spices, peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Cover
    and refrigerate.

    TO COOK: Drain and discard marinade from meat; pat dry.
    Brown roast in oil on all sides. Place in a Dutch oven or
    crock-pot. Put one cup of reserved marinade with all of
    the onions and seasonings into a small sauce pan and bring
    to a boil. Pour over meat (cover and refrigerate balance
    of marinade). If using the Dutch oven cook at a simmer for
    3 hours or until the meat is tender. If using a crock-pot
    put the meat into the crock-pot and set to low, cook until
    meat is tender.

    TO MAKE GRAVY: Strain cooking juices, discarding onions
    and seasonings. Add enough reserved marinade to the
    cooking juices to measure 3 cups. Pour into a large
    saucepan; bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer until
    gravy is thickened. Slice roast and serve with gravy.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, January 20, 2022 12:05:56
    JIM WELLER wrote to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

    bacon [and] spinish

    That sounds like a good combination. I'll try it soon.

    We called it broke pasta.

    With the price of bacon these days, not so broke.

    Not just bacon - damned near all meat. My GFS store has 3# of their
    house brand bacon thick or thin sliced for U$12.99. I scored a package
    of each yesterday. Then spent the afternoon in the kitchen cooking the
    thin sliced in the microwave. I think I'll do the thick-sliced in the
    oven on sheet pans. I'm set on bacon for the next month or two. Bv)=

    Now if I could convince my room-mate to use the rendered bacon fat to
    cook his eggs ..... instead of his invariable practice of melting a gob
    of vegetable shortening. But "That's how I've always done it" says he.

    Another bacon and pasta thing:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Flemish Beef-And-Beer Stew
    Categories: Belgian, Bacon, Beef, Pasta, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Bacon enhances most things .....

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: One-Pan Fish w/Bacon & Sweet Corn
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Pork, Citrus, Herbs
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 (6 oz ea) fish fillets; skin
    - on or off
    Salt
    1/2 c Chopped flat-leaf parsley;
    - leaves & tender stems
    1/2 ts Red-pepper flakes
    2 cl Garlic; fine grated
    1 tb Chopped thyme leaves
    1 Lemon
    4 tb Extra-virgin olive oil
    4 sl Bacon; chopped
    2 sm Shallots; fine chopped
    2 c Fresh corn niblets

    Lightly season both sides of the fish fillets with salt.
    In a large bowl, combine 1/4 cup parsley with the
    red-pepper flakes, garlic and thyme. Zest the lemon into
    the bowl and stir in 2 tablespoons olive oil. Transfer
    the fish to the bowl and turn to coat. Cover and
    marinate at room temperature for 15 minutes. (The fish
    can be covered tightly and refrigerated for up to 12
    hours.) Cut the zested lemon into 8 wedges and set
    aside.

    Heat a large skillet over medium. Add the bacon and
    cook, stirring frequently, until crispy, about 6
    minutes. Using a slotted spoon, transfer to a plate
    lined with a paper towel.

    Increase the heat to medium-high. Add the remaining 2
    tablespoons olive oil to the bacon drippings in the
    skillet. Lay the marinated fish fillets in an even layer
    (skin-side down if your fillets are skin-on) and cover
    fish with any leftover marinade from the bowl. Cook
    until the fish is firm, opaque and flakes easily when
    poked with a fork, 2 to 3 minutes per side. Transfer the
    fish to a serving platter; keep the skillet on the
    stove.

    Lower the heat to medium, and add the shallots and
    reserved bacon. Cook, stirring, until the shallots
    soften, about 2 minutes. Add the corn, stir and cook
    until just tender, about 2 minutes. Season with salt and
    squeeze in the juice from 3 lemon wedges. Add the
    remaining 1/4 cup chopped parsley, stir and spoon over
    the fish. Serve with the remaining lemon wedges for
    squeezing.

    By: Yewande Komolafe

    Yield: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Friday, January 21, 2022 10:51:06
    Dave Drum wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Humphrey's even has a deal that if you harvest a deer - either by
    hunting or with your vehicle - they will process it for you gratis ...
    if you] donate 25% of the meat to one of the feed-the-homeless/hungry charities in town.

    That's a good deal.

    I am somewhat fortunate in that I have only the 2.5K remaining om my
    home equity loan - which I took out to pay for a new roof, removing a large maple tree (7 feet across at ground level) from my back yard and other needed improvements. I could have paid for them from my on hand
    bank balances but didn't want to go bavk to living payday to payday.

    That's what credit is for. When used correctly it's worth it. We didn't
    have a balance on anything for years, but when she went to school for 3
    years and my earning changed... However things are getting easier again.

    Shawn

    ... I sold my soul to the Devil. He gave it back.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Friday, January 21, 2022 17:07:14
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    ... I sold my soul to the Devil. He gave it back.

    "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell's afraid I'm gonna take over."

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crescent's Eggs in Hell
    Categories: Eggs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 ts Oil; olive
    1 Onion; chopped
    1 Green pepper; diced
    2 Garlic cloves; pressed
    1 c Tomatoes; 20 oz with juice
    4 tb Tomato paste
    1 ts Basil
    1/2 ts Oregano
    1 ts Rosemary
    1 Bay leaf
    1 ts Honey
    4 lg Eggs

    In oil saute onion, green pepper and garlic. While they soften,
    stir in tomatoes and their juice (break the tomatoes up a bit),
    tomato paste, basil, oregano, rosemary, bay leaf and honey.
    Simmer sauce for about 10 minutes, then make indentations in it with
    a spoon and break into it 4-6 eggs. Spoon sauce around and cover
    them, pop on a cover, and let the whole thing simmer gently until the
    eggs are poached; the whites should be medium firm, the yolks still
    runny. Lift each egg out with a spatula onto a serving plate in which
    you've placed a bed of cooked spaghetti or a thick slice of toasted
    french bread or a bed of hot, steaming rice, or a tortilla if you
    want it Mexican-style. Spoon extra sauce around each egg and sprinkle
    with grated parmesan cheese. From: Dairy Hollow House Cookbook from
    R-Cuisine conference

    MMMMM

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:135/392 to SHAWN HIGHFIELD on Thursday, January 20, 2022 22:01:00

    Quoting Shawn Highfield to Jim Weller <=-

    No frills - $3.50 a package. Marked down from six something.
    Only time I can afford it.

    I guess I could afford $7 bacon but I refuse to pay that much. So,
    like you I only buy it if it's on steep markdown which isn't very
    often.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: German Onion Potato Soup
    Categories: Soups, Smoked, Bacon, Beef, Beer
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Thick slices smoked bacon or
    -Canadian bacon
    4 Onions; peeled and thinly
    -sliced horizontally
    4 Cloves garlic; minced
    1/2 ts Dried marjoram
    1/4 c Minced parsley
    Salt, pepper and vinegar
    -to taste
    4 c Rich beef stock
    1 c Dark beer
    4 sm To medium potatoes;
    -julienned
    1 c Sour cream
    4 sl Toasted peasant or rye
    -bread; cut into chunks

    In a heavy pot, fry the bacon until brown, remove and chop. To the
    bacon fat, add the onions and garlic and stir-fry until softened and
    golden brown. Add the seasonings, stock, beer, and potatoes. Simmer
    for 20 minutes until potatoes are tender. Add sour cream and heat
    gently. Top with croutons and reserved bacon.

    Source: Dallas Morning News

    MMMMM


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Friday, January 21, 2022 22:54:58
    Hello JIM,

    Thursday January 20 2022 22:01, you wrote to SHAWN HIGHFIELD:

    I guess I could afford $7 bacon but I refuse to pay that much. So,
    like you I only buy it if it's on steep markdown which isn't very
    often.

    I was at several grocery stores today and I saw one pound of "premium bacon" for USD$20. The hell with that.

    No recipe as I am too tired to fire up MM but my mom gave me several useful dishes today such as two stainless steel mixing bowl, a small non-stick pizza pan with crisping holes, a -big- Tupperware-style container big enough to hold a pound of leftovers, and a few other odds and ends. The Foodsaver she gave me has been a lifesaver.

    I guess I am getting older when I get excited about dishes...?

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Saturday, January 22, 2022 12:22:14
    JIM WELLER wrote to SHAWN HIGHFIELD <=-

    I guess I could afford $7 bacon but I refuse to pay that much. So,
    like you I only buy it if it's on steep markdown which isn't very
    often.

    I mean I /could/ buy a package at $7 as well, but... $3.50 is much better.
    No Frills has duck marked down pretty good this week so I grabbed one for
    the freezer as well.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Saturday, January 22, 2022 12:36:36
    Sean Dennis wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    ... I sold my soul to the Devil. He gave it back.

    "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell's afraid I'm gonna take over."

    Stolen for my tagline file. With proper attribution to John Langan.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crescent's Eggs in Hell
    Categories: Eggs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    This is not as hot as the name would have you believe.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gates of Hell Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Chilies, Beer, Booze
    Yield: 12 Servings

    4 tb Olive oil
    5 lb Lean chuck
    2 lb Pork butt
    2 md Onions; coarse chopped
    6 cl Garlic; minced (or more)
    Salt
    1 ts Black pepper
    12 oz Beer; NOT lite
    1 qt Tomato sauce
    4 c Stewed/chopped tomatoes
    1 lg Bell pepper; seeded, chopped
    1 ts Allspice
    4 tb Fresh ground cumin
    2 1/2 tb Chilli spice mix
    1 oz Soy sauce
    2 oz Whiskey
    1/4 c Dried chilies
    1 tb Trappey's Red Devil sauce
    1/2 c Tomato paste
    1/3 c Masa harina

    Heat the olive oil in a heavy skillet. Cube the meats into
    1/4 inch cubes and cook in the olive oil with the onions,
    the garlic, salt & black pepper. In a large stock pot
    bring the beer to a boil. Add the meat mixture, tomato
    sauce, tomatoes, bell pepper, allspice, 2 Tb cumin, chilli
    spice, soy sauce, & whiskey. Reduce heat to medium and
    cook for 10 minutes. Add the dried peppers, Tabasco sauce,
    tomato paste, & salt as desired.

    At this point stir in the masa harina slowly and cook a
    bit. Cover after stirring well and cook for 1 hour,
    stirring every 10 minutes. Add the remaining cumin & cook
    for 1 minute. Serve hot!

    This recipe makes enough for 12-20 people depending upon
    their appetites. It is delicious served over white rice or
    just by itself.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Shawn Highfield on Saturday, January 22, 2022 12:45:34
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Humphrey's even has a deal that if you harvest a deer - either by
    hunting or with your vehicle - they will process it for you gratis ...
    if you] donate 25% of the meat to one of the feed-the-homeless/hungry charities in town.

    That's a good deal.

    I am somewhat fortunate in that I have only the 2.5K remaining om my
    home equity loan - which I took out to pay for a new roof, removing a large maple tree (7 feet across at ground level) from my back yard and other needed improvements. I could have paid for them from my on hand
    bank balances but didn't want to go bavk to living payday to payday.

    That's what credit is for. When used correctly it's worth it. We
    didn't have a balance on anything for years, but when she went to
    school for 3 years and my earning changed... However things are
    getting easier again.

    When I wore a younger man's clothes I was somewhat cavalier about my
    credit. Then came the period when I was splitting up with my wife - and
    she lost a leg when her jocker wrecked his motorcycle. That's when I
    found out that California is a "community property" state. Which, of
    course means "community responsibility". Went from 1 loan and current
    bills to >$60K debt load in one swell foop. Bv(=

    I moved back to Illinois, dropping down into Mexico for a quicky divorce.
    But, the bill collectors followed me. After they hounded me out of three
    really decent jobs with their wage garnishments a customer who was also
    a very good lawyer took me through bankruptcy - pro bono. All I paid was
    the filing fee.

    And for the next 25+ years I did not use credit at all. Until one day
    I needed to rent a car and could not because I did not have a credit
    card - just debit cards. So my bank gave me a U$200 limit secured VISA.
    Even though I had >15K on deposit with them (I was saving for a major purchase). Now my credit score - which was non-existent then is >825 at
    last look. I'm not going to ruin that - ever again. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Credit Crunch-Munch Picnic Lunch Bread Cases
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Pork, Dairy, Cheese
    Yield: 12 Servings

    3 Spring onions or chives;
    - fine sliced, green & white
    - parts
    4 sl Ham; diced
    1 Bell pepper; any colour,
    - fine diced
    1 (or 2) handsful frozen
    - vegetables
    12 sl Wholemeal bread; crusts off
    8 md Free range eggs
    150 ml Milk
    Grated cheese for topping

    Set your oven @ 180ºC(160ºC Fan)/(350ºF(325ºF Fan).

    Spray a metal 12 hole muffin tin with non-stick baking
    spray.

    Push the bread into the muffin tin holes then spoon in
    the ham and vegetables.

    In a bowl, whisk together the eggs, milk, and some salt
    and pepper. Pour the egg mixture evenly into prepared
    bread cases. When pouring in the egg mixture into the
    cases, pour until it reaches the top of the muffin hole.
    The egg mixture will absorb into the bread a little so
    pour all 12 first then you can go back and add more if
    you have egg mixture left over.

    Bake for 20 minutes. Leave to sit for 5 minutes before
    removing from the tin. Serve.

    RECIPE FROM: http://utterlyscrummy.blogspot.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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