Actually sir they did - and he confirmed so in this same packet.
(Damn. Wish I had that macro of yours)

You mean this... Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! ? <GG>

YES! That's the one.

Set it up in MailMaker. It's easy, and mine is on the first one, Ctrl- Shift-1 <G>

Hmmm.

*tinkering*
*tinkering*
*tinkering*
*tinkering*
*tinkering*
*tinkering*
*tinkering*

...
...
...

Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

THERE! Thank you!

Um, what are you doing storing paper, dude!! It's (checks watch) 2010 already. Data storage no longer has to be in the form of catalogues

of

paper. 1992 just called - they want their dot matrix printers back. :D

They can't have their dot matrix printers.. they are in use. And paper storage is a normal thing for us non-government types... we buy in bulk
to save some money (which you government types take away from us <G>) As far as accounting is concerned, the paperless office never happened,
and mainly due to government requirements for hard copy documents... not that we need them necessarily, but you folk require them all the time..

Ok touche. You're right. It's entirely stupid that we can't go
paperless but you're right.

I wonder if there are any other governments who've made the transition?
It's long past time that we had an entirely paperless society. The technology is there; evidently the will is not. The thing is: it would
save so much money for all involved: the public, the government (and
hence the public again).

I can't believe how stupid we're being with this. And government is
trying to promote paperless too, in a big way.

Is this a forest-trees thing, I wonder?
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Geoff....

I have an NEC 26 pin dot matrix printer in the attic, waiting for a
good home.

I assume that you know it will likely be waiting for a LONG time <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/17/2010 at 16:08

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Doug...

Actually sir they did - and he confirmed so in this same packet.
(Damn. Wish I had that macro of yours)

You mean this... Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! ? <GG>

Set it up in MailMaker. It's easy, and mine is on the first one, Ctrl-
Shift-1 <G>

Um, what are you doing storing paper, dude!! It's (checks watch) 2010 already. Data storage no longer has to be in the form of catalogues of paper. 1992 just called - they want their dot matrix printers back.
:D

They can't have their dot matrix printers.. they are in use. And paper
storage is a normal thing for us non-government types... we buy in bulk
to save some money (which you government types take away from us <G>) As
far as accounting is concerned, the paperless office never happened,
and mainly due to government requirements for hard copy documents... not
that we need them necessarily, but you folk require them all the time..

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/17/2010 at 16:09

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Doug....

printer. We print prescriptions, insurance forms, etc., in the satellite offices, but we don't print checks/cheques.

Do you think Gregg read what you just wrote? Probably not, I'm
guessing. :)

Wrong guess...Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

Wow! I'm agreeing with the civil servant! <G>

*points to head* Not just a coat rack! :D

You mean it can be used for hats, too? <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/19/2010 at 21:58

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Doug.....

"Do you take this woman?"
*silence*
"NO! *YOU* TAKE HER!!!"

But we were young and I was stupid. (Gregg! Resist!!)

And now you are old, and still stupid if you would make the above
response. (Sorry... I couldn't resist <G>)

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/19/2010 at 22:00

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Doug....

Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

THERE! Thank you!

You are welcome. Now... do you need to be told how to automatically
insert a pre-defined signature in to all outgoing mail, too? <GG>

and mainly due to government requirements for hard copy documents...

not

that we need them necessarily, but you folk require them all the

time..

Ok touche. You're right. It's entirely stupid that we can't go
paperless but you're right.

Entirely stupid? The government? The same government that designed the employee deduction forms so that the perforation to tear off the
government portion is approx. 1/8" above where the automatic machinery folds the form to insert it in the envelope, making it nearly impossible to tear
off the government portion cleanly? That government? Entirely stupid?

NO KIDDING! <G>

I can't believe how stupid we're being with this. And government is
trying to promote paperless too, in a big way.

That's right... paperless for everyone else but them. Yeah, you can pay
your government bills electronically, and thus "save paper", but if it
comes down to an audit, that same government in the form of it's
auditors is going to ask for "hard copy" proof of payment...

Is this a forest-trees thing, I wonder?

If you mean not only can those in charge of the government not see the
forest for the tres, they can't see the trees either, than yes, it is a "forest-trees" thing <G>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/19/2010 at 20:21

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printer. We print prescriptions, insurance forms, etc., in the satellite offices, but we don't print checks/cheques.

Do you think Gregg read what you just wrote? Probably not, I'm guessing. :)

Wrong guess...Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

Oh? And yet you persist in your idea that Carroll needs a dot matrix
printer? Well ... Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

Wow! I'm agreeing with the civil servant! <G>

*points to head* Not just a coat rack! :D

You mean it can be used for hats, too? <GG>

Wait. A hat rack? Wow. COOL IDEA. :)
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"Do you take this woman?"
*silence*
"NO! *YOU* TAKE HER!!!"

But we were young and I was stupid. (Gregg! Resist!!)

And now you are old, and still stupid if you would make the above
response. (Sorry... I couldn't resist <G>)

I knew it. I just had to wave that red flag. I like watching the bull charge. *laughing*
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Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

THERE! Thank you!

You are welcome. Now... do you need to be told how to automatically
insert a pre-defined signature in to all outgoing mail, too? <GG>

No! I already know how to do that. I choose not to!
Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

and mainly due to government requirements for hard copy

documents... not

that we need them necessarily, but you folk require them all the

time..

Ok touche. You're right. It's entirely stupid that we can't go paperless but you're right.

Entirely stupid? The government? The same government that designed the employee deduction forms so that the perforation to tear off the
government portion is approx. 1/8" above where the automatic machinery

folds

the form to insert it in the envelope, making it nearly impossible to tear off the government portion cleanly? That government? Entirely stupid?

Yeah. That one.

NO KIDDING! <G>

I can't believe how stupid we're being with this. And government is trying to promote paperless too, in a big way.

That's right... paperless for everyone else but them. Yeah, you can pay your government bills electronically, and thus "save paper", but if it comes down to an audit, that same government in the form of it's
auditors is going to ask for "hard copy" proof of payment...

I think that's one of the driving factors for e-health. The amount of
paper required when ever anyone puts in an initial claim for disability -
doctors notes, investigation materials - is simply astounding. We are
long past the due date for getting all of this stuff digitized.

Is this a forest-trees thing, I wonder?

If you mean not only can those in charge of the government not see the forest for the tres, they can't see the trees either, than yes, it is a "forest-trees" thing <G>

I think some progress is being made. But it's a wiiide forest and so
when a tree falls, you can't hardly hear it.
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Doug....

I think that's one of the driving factors for e-health. The amount of paper required when ever anyone puts in an initial claim for disability - doctors notes, investigation materials - is simply astounding. We are
long past the due date for getting all of this stuff digitized.

I kept a copy of my application for CPP disability... just the
application including my doctor's report, no investigation material. If memory

serves, it is somewhere around 30 pages long. They even asked about my
kids... birth dates, where they lived, etc. even though I told them on, I believe, the second page, that my kids were all old enough to not be dependents...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/10/2010 at 18:05

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Doug....

But we were young and I was stupid. (Gregg! Resist!!)

And now you are old, and still stupid if you would make the above response. (Sorry... I couldn't resist <G>)

I knew it. I just had to wave that red flag. I like watching the bull charge. *laughing*

You know, that "charge" was the fastest I have moved in years (as
witness this response... but it is income tax season <GG>)

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/10/2010 at 18:08

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I kept a copy of my application for CPP disability... just the
application including my doctor's report, no investigation material. If

memory

serves, it is somewhere around 30 pages long. They even asked about my kids... birth dates, where they lived, etc. even though I told them on, I believe, the second page, that my kids were all old enough to not be dependents...

Amazing.

I even take issue with their demand that we keep old tax records on
file (for what is it? six years?). Such a pain, especially when you have a truckload of receipts. And you know of course that the minute you
throw any of those records out, why then that's when someone will drop by
your place to do an audit. :(
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But we were young and I was stupid. (Gregg! Resist!!)

And now you are old, and still stupid if you would make the above response. (Sorry... I couldn't resist <G>)

I knew it. I just had to wave that red flag. I like watching the

bull

charge. *laughing*

You know, that "charge" was the fastest I have moved in years (as
witness this response... but it is income tax season <GG>)

Oh right! I keep forgetting, and thinking that it ends at the end of government fiscal Y/E, which is March 31.
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Doug....

I even take issue with their demand that we keep old tax records on
file (for what is it? six years?). Such a pain, especially when you have

a

Seven, and then, before destroying the old records, you need permission
from them, at least, for business records. I don't believe that
individuals do, but you never know...

truckload of receipts. And you know of course that the minute you
throw any of those records out, why then that's when someone will drop by your place to do an audit. :(

I would have to look it up, but I believe that they can't go back more
than the seven years, although we, as individuals can go back further, I believe we can ask for a reassessment back 10 years.

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Doug....

Oh right! I keep forgetting, and thinking that it ends at the end of government fiscal Y/E, which is March 31.

April 30th... March 31 is the date when the government decides how much further they want us all to bend over for the next fiscal year...
before they force us to turn over our spare cash from the previous calendar year...

I always thought taxes would be best as a three step form...
1) How much money did you make last year?
2) How much of that do you have left?
3) Send it to us...

<GG??>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/21/2010 at 21:00

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I always thought taxes would be best as a three step form...
1) How much money did you make last year?
2) How much of that do you have left?
3) Send it to us...

Ah yes, the new, "Simplified" IRS form 1040. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 4/22/2010 at 2:26 PM <=-

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I even take issue with their demand that we keep old tax records on file (for what is it? six years?). Such a pain, especially when you

have a

Seven, and then, before destroying the old records, you need permission from them, at least, for business records. I don't believe that
individuals do, but you never know...

No permission required. I have that on the advice of an accountant who specializes in taxation for people in the entertainment industry (of
which I was a part for a while).

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Carroll....

I always thought taxes would be best as a three step form...
1) How much money did you make last year?
2) How much of that do you have left?
3) Send it to us...

Ah yes, the new, "Simplified" IRS form 1040. <G>

You've seen it then? <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/28/2010 at 18:30

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Doug.....

No permission required. I have that on the advice of an accountant who specializes in taxation for people in the entertainment industry (of
which I was a part for a while).

Was he trying to be a comedian, too? (The last time I checked, about a
year back, I was told that permission was required for a business to
destroy any records. You can not destroy records for the past 7 years, and need permission to destroy anything else...)

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/28/2010 at 18:31

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On 4/28/2010 6:32 PM, GREGG HOMMEL wrote to DOUG POWLESS:

No permission required. I have that on the advice of an accountant

who

specializes in taxation for people in the entertainment industry (of which I was a part for a while).

Was he trying to be a comedian, too? (The last time I checked, about a
year back, I was told that permission was required for a business to destroy any records. You can not destroy records for the past 7 years,

and

need permission to destroy anything else...)

I don't know. He never told me I needed permission. Kind of odd, really.
Is
there a difference between a business and a self-employed person (which I was)? Or are they both the same?
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Truth be told, I could have done without it. <G>

But then I wouldn't be doing my job, would I? <GG>

I guess when one has a lot of time on their hands..... <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/2/2010 at 7:17 PM <=-

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Carroll....

Have you had your Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! today? <G>

Truth be told, I could have done without it. <G>

But then I wouldn't be doing my job, would I? <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/02/2010 at 15:24

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Carroll...

Truth be told, I could have done without it. <G>

But then I wouldn't be doing my job, would I? <GG>

I guess when one has a lot of time on their hands..... <G>

You may regret making such a comment. You do remember that I am
forcibly "retired" due to medical disability? As a result, I do indeed have an

excess of time on my hands to follow up on this.

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/03/2010 at 20:47

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You may regret making such a comment. You do remember that I am

Right now, the only comment I regret making is the one I made in
response to the question "Do you take this woman......" <G>

forcibly "retired" due to medical disability? As a result, I do indeed have an
excess of time on my hands to follow up on this.

Whatever "floats your boat." <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/4/2010 at 8:51 PM <=-

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Somehow, I suspect that there are quite a few of us here that would
feel much the same way <GG>

At least two of which live "north of the border". The US/Canada border,
that is. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/6/2010 at 12:04 PM <=-

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Carroll....

You may regret making such a comment. You do remember that I am

Right now, the only comment I regret making is the one I made in
response to the question "Do you take this woman......" <G>

Somehow, I suspect that there are quite a few of us here that would
feel much the same way <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/06/2010 at 08:18

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But financially and from an efficiency point of view, the dot matrix GH>makes sense, and is not available as anyhing but a non-networked, parallel GH>printer.

I have an NEC 26 pin dot matrix printer in the attic, waiting for a
good home.

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his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption DP>that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an

issue.

And your presumption was correct in this case. It's a satellite office printer. We print prescriptions, insurance forms, etc., in the
satellite offices, but we don't print checks/cheques.

Do you think Gregg read what you just wrote? Probably not, I'm
guessing. :)

With the very low price for networkable laser printers, I don't think DP>the financial side is true either.

Wow! I'm agreeing with the civil servant! <G>

*points to head* Not just a coat rack! :D
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Doug.....

dude. Logically I looked at Carroll's statement that he wanted to

convince

his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an

issue.

From what Carroll said, it would appear to me that your presuming was presumptuous, as his comments didn't support it... IMHO, of course <G>

Actually sir they did - and he confirmed so in this same packet.
(Damn. Wish I had that macro of yours)

Efficiency? Do you remember what dot-matrix printers were about? The paper feed problems? Ugh. I'm so glad they're almost extinct.

Strange... I have been using one at each job for something close to 25 years, not just for cheque printing, but for general accounting reports (the pin holes on the side made for easy storage in binders similar to duotang in structure...) and I can not honestly recall the last time that
I had any paper feed problems. AAMOF, I have had more problems with
laser printers jamming due to high humidity conditions which caused the paper to not feed properly, especially with HP printers and their strange paper paths...

Um, what are you doing storing paper, dude!! It's (checks watch) 2010 already. Data storage no longer has to be in the form of catalogues of
paper. 1992 just called - they want their dot matrix printers back.
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You may regret making such a comment. You do remember that I am

Right now, the only comment I regret making is the one I made in
response to the question "Do you take this woman......" <G>

If I had to do it again, my response would be different.

"Do you take this woman?"

*silence*

"NO! *YOU* TAKE HER!!!"

But we were young and I was stupid. (Gregg! Resist!!)
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But financially and from an efficiency point of view, the dot matrix GH>makes sense, and is not available as anyhing but a non-networked,

parallel

printer.

I have an NEC 26 pin dot matrix printer in the attic, waiting for a
good home.

By coincidence, I have a six pound sledge hammer, looking for a nail.

(Sorry Geoffrey - couldn't resist) :)
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Doug....

financially it doesn't make sense. There's got to be a way to write up a business case which shows the financial benefits of upgrading to a

networked

printer. (And they're not that costly anymore, right? You can still get
a fairly good cheap one at any of the usual stores).

Wrong, oh infallible one! <GG> There are cases where an LPT printer is
the only choice. At all three offices where I used to work, cheques were
in a pin feed format. This is the most reliable for lining up, and
consistent printing. However, pin feed means a dot matrix printer, and
unless things have changed in the past year or so, dot matrix printers are virtually only available asa parallel or LPT printers. Additionally, I
have never found a dot matric printer that is networked. Actually, it is
very difficult to find a dot matrix printer of any kind these days.

But financially and from an efficiency point of view, the dot matrix
makes sense, and is not available as anyhing but a non-networked, parallel printer.

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/25/2010 at 23:25

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Doug....

financially it doesn't make sense. There's got to be a way to write

up a

business case which shows the financial benefits of upgrading to a

networked

printer. (And they're not that costly anymore, right? You can still

get

a fairly good cheap one at any of the usual stores).

Wrong, oh infallible one! <GG> There are cases where an LPT printer is
the only choice. At all three offices where I used to work, cheques were
in a pin feed format. This is the most reliable for lining up, and

Now, hold your horses (and your Canadian-Bronx cheer for a moment),
dude. Logically I looked at Carroll's statement that he wanted to convince his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption
that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an issue.

But financially and from an efficiency point of view, the dot matrix
makes sense, and is not available as anyhing but a non-networked, parallel printer.

Efficiency? Do you remember what dot-matrix printers were about? The
paper feed problems? Ugh. I'm so glad they're almost extinct.

With the very low price for networkable laser printers, I don't think
the financial side is true either.
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his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption
that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an issue.

And your presumption was correct in this case. It's a satellite office printer. We print prescriptions, insurance forms, etc., in the
satellite offices, but we don't print checks/cheques.

Our office manager uses single-sheet checks, and prints them on an AIO
inkjet.

With the very low price for networkable laser printers, I don't think
the financial side is true either.

Wow! I'm agreeing with the civil servant! <G>

-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/26/2010 at 7:09 PM <=-

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Doug.....

dude. Logically I looked at Carroll's statement that he wanted to

convince

his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption
that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an issue.

From what Carroll said, it would appear to me that your presuming was presumptuous, as his comments didn't support it... IMHO, of course <G>

Efficiency? Do you remember what dot-matrix printers were about? The paper feed problems? Ugh. I'm so glad they're almost extinct.

Strange... I have been using one at each job for something close to 25
years, not just for cheque printing, but for general accounting reports
(the pin holes on the side made for easy storage in binders similar to
duotang in structure...) and I can not honestly recall the last time that
I had any paper feed problems. AAMOF, I have had more problems with
laser printers jamming due to high humidity conditions which caused the
paper to not feed properly, especially with HP printers and their strange paper paths...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/26/2010 at 22:33

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Carroll...

From what Carroll said, it would appear to me that your presuming was GH>presumptuous, as his comments didn't support it... IMHO, of course <G>

Actually, your "presuming" was "presumptuous". <G> We ain't printin' checks/cheques at this particular location. Just prescriptions,
insurance forms, letters, etc.

Have you had your Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! today? <G>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/27/2010 at 16:48

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Have you had your Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! today? <G>

Truth be told, I could have done without it. <G>


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his employer to go with a networked printer. Hence, the presumption GH>DP> that cheque-writing and the other LPT uses for a printer wasn't an issue.

From what Carroll said, it would appear to me that your presuming was GH>presumptuous, as his comments didn't support it... IMHO, of course <G>

Actually, your "presuming" was "presumptuous". <G> We ain't printin' checks/cheques at this particular location. Just prescriptions,
insurance forms, letters, etc.


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/27/2010 at 2:49 PM <=-

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