Speaking of which, I saw articles that say that if you use "Windows XP Mode" under Windows 7 on a 64-bit system, you can supposedly run

16-bit

apps under that scenario. I don't have Windows 7. I don't have a

Way back when this thread first began, I said that I was using
MailMaker, a 32 bit windows app, because I couldn't use OLXWin (a 16 bit

Windows

app) and didn't want to install XP Mode just to run one application.

So, yes... if you have a CPU which is 64 bit, and apps which are 16
bit, if your CPU supports hardware virtualization, you can install the freebie XP Mode and run your 16 bit apps there (because it is a virtual 32 bit XP)

Our Microsoft consultant at work told us not to get too used to the XP
mode. (He was speaking to the developers who wanted to remain lazy and
not upgrade their code). In the next version of Windows, I'm pretty
sure it's gone.
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Carroll...

Speaking of which, I saw articles that say that if you use "Windows XP Mode" under Windows 7 on a 64-bit system, you can supposedly run 16-bit apps under that scenario. I don't have Windows 7. I don't have a

Way back when this thread first began, I said that I was using
MailMaker, a 32 bit windows app, because I couldn't use OLXWin (a 16 bit Windows
app) and didn't want to install XP Mode just to run one application.

So, yes... if you have a CPU which is 64 bit, and apps which are 16
bit, if your CPU supports hardware virtualization, you can install the
freebie XP Mode and run your 16 bit apps there (because it is a virtual 32
bit XP)

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/17/2010 at 16:04

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So, yes... if you have a CPU which is 64 bit, and apps which are 16
bit, if your CPU supports hardware virtualization, you can install the GH>freebie XP Mode and run your 16 bit apps there (because it is a virtual 32 GH>bit XP)

The old "using a sledge hammer to kill a fly" method. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/18/2010 at 3:41 PM <=-

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Doug....

Our Microsoft consultant at work told us not to get too used to the XP mode. (He was speaking to the developers who wanted to remain lazy and
not upgrade their code). In the next version of Windows, I'm pretty
sure it's gone.

Not sure when the next version of Windows will be released, or whethr
or not it will have XP Mode capability. The idea behind XP mode is to
provide a way for people to "upgrade" from XP to Win 7 (which is an
allowable path, but can not be done as an "upgrade"... you need to install Win

7 "clean" and migrate your apps to it.) but since not all XP apps will
run properly under Win 7, give them an alternative way to use those apps
until they upgrade them to a Win 7 version.

Since this may continue to be necessary for some while (upgrades of
apps can be notoriously slow) and since MSFT just yesterday (I think it
was) released a version of XP Mode which does not require hardware virtualization in the CPU, I don't really seeing it going away all that soon....

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/19/2010 at 20:05

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Carroll...

freebie XP Mode and run your 16 bit apps there (because it is a virtual

32

bit XP)

The old "using a sledge hammer to kill a fly" method. <G>

That isn't how you do it? Dang! No wonder my walls are full of holes!


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Not sure when the next version of Windows will be released, or whethr
or not it will have XP Mode capability. The idea behind XP mode is to provide a way for people to "upgrade" from XP to Win 7 (which is an allowable path, but can not be done as an "upgrade"... you need to install

Win

7 "clean" and migrate your apps to it.) but since not all XP apps will
run properly under Win 7, give them an alternative way to use those apps until they upgrade them to a Win 7 version.

Since this may continue to be necessary for some while (upgrades of
apps can be notoriously slow) and since MSFT just yesterday (I think it was) released a version of XP Mode which does not require hardware virtualization in the CPU, I don't really seeing it going away all that

soon....

Yes, the timing of this exchange was interesting. I no sooner had
uploaded my message about the Microosft guy telling us not to get used to XP mode when that announcement came out.

Curiouser and curiouser...
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Doug.....

was) released a version of XP Mode which does not require hardware virtualization in the CPU, I don't really seeing it going away all

that soon....

Yes, the timing of this exchange was interesting. I no sooner had
uploaded my message about the Microosft guy telling us not to get used to

XP

mode when that announcement came out.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Maybe it was MSFT's way of confusing things to keep us on our toes?
Actually, I rather suspect that, whatever the next version of Windows turns out to be, XP Mode will remain compatible with it. There are too many
business apps not yet compatible with anything beyond XP, and the
business market is necessary to any OS...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/10/2010 at 18:02

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was) released a version of XP Mode which does not require hardware virtualization in the CPU, I don't really seeing it going away all

that soon....

Yes, the timing of this exchange was interesting. I no sooner had uploaded my message about the Microosft guy telling us not to get used

to XP

mode when that announcement came out.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Maybe it was MSFT's way of confusing things to keep us on our toes? Actually, I rather suspect that, whatever the next version of Windows

turns

out to be, XP Mode will remain compatible with it. There are too many business apps not yet compatible with anything beyond XP, and the
business market is necessary to any OS...

That's the beauty (and curse) of trying their hardest to be all things
to all people. Makes it damned hard to standardize. I'll bet you they
get flooded with complaints whenever they announce they're dropping
support for an older OS or software too.
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Doug.....

That's the beauty (and curse) of trying their hardest to be all things
to all people. Makes it damned hard to standardize. I'll bet you they
get flooded with complaints whenever they announce they're dropping
support for an older OS or software too.

No kidding, and not necessarily when they announce it publicly. I
recall one beta where support for legacy apps was being dropped, and the complaints and woe stories got it reinstated... all before there was any public announcement...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/21/2010 at 20:55

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That's the beauty (and curse) of trying their hardest to be all things to all people. Makes it damned hard to standardize. I'll bet you

they

get flooded with complaints whenever they announce they're dropping support for an older OS or software too.

No kidding, and not necessarily when they announce it publicly. I
recall one beta where support for legacy apps was being dropped, and the complaints and woe stories got it reinstated... all before there was any public announcement...

Legacy apps. Don't get me started.

Bad coding. BAD!

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Doug....

Legacy apps. Don't get me started.

OK, I won't. Is that what that string is for... a pull starter to get
you started? <GG>

Bad coding. BAD!

Sounds like one of my dates when I was younger <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 04/28/2010 at 18:29

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Carroll....

But you are wise beyond your years, sir (or is that beyond your

ears?

<GG>)

You're confusing "wise" with "wet". <G>

Well, I was trying to be nice for a change, but since you insist... GH><GG>

That happens so rarely, that I didn't recognize the effort! <G>

I shall have to remember this in future, adding it to my bad of tricks
under the heading "So you want to confuse Carroll" <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/02/2010 at 17:19

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Carroll....

but a "raspberry"... or if you are from Kitchener-Waterloo <home

of RIM>

it is a "blackberry" <G>)

Punny, very punny. <G>

Why thank you sir... it is nice to be appreciated <GG>

I wouldn't go *that* far. <G>

You don't have to... I did it for you <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/02/2010 at 17:20

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Barry....

teacher (more like group leader) should have caught the mistakes and
some how brought it to the attention of the student. has to be more

That's the point... she didn't! She may have caught them, but they were
not brought to the attention of my daughters, until I did so.

probably would have looked at the letter grade and figured "good - I passed" and that would be the end of it.

Exactly...

<grumble> Miss-so-and-so needs to have a little one-on-one discussion.
Step One is to do the roghh draft, Step Two is to polish it up. Step
Two gets repeated several times.

That is what I tried to do... have a on-on-one discussion, and that is
when I was told they did not correct spelling and grammar errors so that
they would not "stifle their creativity".

if they were told that -- probably would have yanked me out of the publicschooling and plunked me down in one of the privately-run schools
in the city.

A nice alternative, except for one detail... all schools here are
public, with only a very, very few private schools, which cost a fortune. My choice ended up to be teaching them the correct way at home. Once we got
over the fact that their teachers were not infallible and/or the
ultimate ruler, we did fine...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/02/2010 at 15:19

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I shall have to remember this in future, adding it to my bad of tricks GH>under the heading "So you want to confuse Carroll" <GG>

These days, it doesn't take much. :-/


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/2/2010 at 7:48 PM <=-

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Carroll...

I shall have to remember this in future, adding it to my bad of tricks GH>under the heading "So you want to confuse Carroll" <GG>

These days, it doesn't take much. :-/

This is apparently a feeling I should embrace, as apparently, I no
longer have a "bag of tricks", but instead, a "bad of tricks" <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/03/2010 at 20:46

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Hi Gregg!

teacher (more like group leader) should have caught the mistakes and
some how brought it to the attention of the student. has to be more

That's the point... she didn't! She may have caught them, but
they were not brought to the attention of my daughters, until I
did so.

So regardless of whether the teacher caught them or not nothing happened
until you did something. Good for you; bad for the teacher.

<grumble> Miss-so-and-so needs to have a little one-on-one discussion. Step One is to do the roghh draft, Step Two is to polish it up. Step
Two gets repeated several times.

That is what I tried to do... have a on-on-one discussion, and
that is when I was told they did not correct spelling and grammar
errors so that they would not "stifle their creativity".

I assuming the person telling you is the teacher. Time to go to the
principal and if that fails on to the school board. As I said before,
the correct procedure appears to be write it down (raw - the crative
part) and then go over it for the mechanics (spelling and grammar). If
they seem stuck on insisting the latter thwarts the creativity portion,
come back with the two-prongs of going over helps to fine-tune their
creativity -- commedians, writers, artists, all fine-tune their work to
get the best punch line, the best description. Second prong is if no
one can decipher the words it is not communicating to others as the work
was intended.

if they were told that -- probably would have yanked me out of the publicschooling and plunked me down in one of the privately-run schools
in the city.

A nice alternative, except for one detail... all schools here are
public, with only a very, very few private schools, which cost a
fortune. My choice ended up to be teaching them the correct way
at home. Once we got over the fact that their teachers were not
infallible and/or the ultimate ruler, we did fine...

Yes: costs probably would be one enormous factor. We have a private
school (K-12?) a few blocks from here but I have no idea of tuition and
other requirements (for instance, they require school uniforms).
Teaching at home is probably the best alternative, especially when only
one class was causing the problem.

¯ ®
¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ®
¯ @MSN.COM ®
¯ ®


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I shall have to remember this in future, adding it to my bad of tricks
under the heading "So you want to confuse Carroll" <GG>

These days, it doesn't take much. :-/

This is apparently a feeling I should embrace, as apparently, I no
longer have a "bag of tricks", but instead, a "bad of tricks" <GG>

Spell/grammar checker not working? <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/4/2010 at 8:49 PM <=-

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independent app is no longer around, and if you find an old copy of it, is 16
bit and will not work on a 64 bit system. As for the default using

Speaking of which, I saw articles that say that if you use "Windows XP
Mode" under Windows 7 on a 64-bit system, you can supposedly run 16-bit
apps under that scenario. I don't have Windows 7. I don't have a
64-bit system. And, I don't have a system with the hardware
virtualization support that I read XP Mode requires, to check that out.
But, when I saw that, I thought of you for some reason. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/6/2010 at 12:03 PM <=-

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Barry....

errors so that they would not "stifle their creativity".

I assuming the person telling you is the teacher. Time to go to the principal and if that fails on to the school board. As I said before,

Fat lot of good that would do me... the "policy" was board/Ministry
issued. Remember, we have a different education system over here. Our
school boards are not "local" in the same way yours are. We have a local school board, but it is not funded locally, except through property taxes,
and at that, the majority of their funding comes provincially, as all
local school boards are responsible, in the end, to the Ministry of
Education, and it is that Ministry which sets out the primary curriculum etc. for the local school boards to implement.

The local boards are not independent. If you attend a school in
Kitchener, you are taught the same curriculum, in much the same way as you would be if you moved to a school in Toronto, Windsor, or Ottawa.

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Carroll...

This is apparently a feeling I should embrace, as apparently, I no GH>longer have a "bag of tricks", but instead, a "bad of tricks" <GG>

Spell/grammar checker not working? <G>

MailMaker is so old, and has nevr been updated, that the spell checking doesn't work. It was designed originally to work with Office
dictionaries, or an independent spell checking app (one, and one only). That independent app is no longer around, and if you find an old copy of it, is 16 bit and will not work on a 64 bit system. As for the default using
Office, Office has changed it's method of storing (and using) spell checking at least three times since MailMaker was last updated. In spite of
having Office 2003 installed, it won't find the spell checking, nor use it.

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errors so that they would not "stifle their creativity".

I assuming the person telling you is the teacher. Time to go to the principal and if that fails on to the school board. As I said before,

Fat lot of good that would do me... the "policy" was
board/Ministry issued. Remember, we have a different education
system over here. Our school boards are not "local" in the same
way yours are. We have a local school board, but it is not funded
locally, except through property taxes, and at that, the majority
of their funding comes provincially, as all local school boards
are responsible, in the end, to the Ministry of Education, and it
is that Ministry which sets out the primary curriculum etc. for
the local school boards to implement.

The local boards are not independent. If you attend a school in
Kitchener, you are taught the same curriculum, in much the same
way as you would be if you moved to a school in Toronto, Windsor,
or Ottawa.

Ah! Similar yet totally different! You would have been accomplishing
nothing except wasting your time. And that time would (and was) better
spent correcting the problem on a parent basis.

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They never specify what they mean (or is that what they really mean?
<G>) but I take what I can get <GG>

And you're dealing with the double whammy. Youngsters, (relatively
speaking) and female youngsters to boot!

It *really* works here where I'm employed. We must be crazy, because GH>CM> we're still here.

And if we wern't, reading these posts would make us so <G>

Bubba & Billy Bob, two patients of the state mental hospital were
talking. Bubba asked Billy Bob: "Billy Bob? Why are we here?" Billy
Bob replies: "It's simple. We're here, because we're not all there!"

I think we're here because we're not all there. <G>

-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/25/2010 at 12:51 PM <=-

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with my "conditions" (she never did <G>) After a couple months, she left GH>again, this time, for good... or so I came to believe after a while.

When mine left the second time, I told her I didn't want her to leave,
but if she left, she was not coming back.

But tell me... your comments about Labour Day intrigue me... other than
a spelling difference, what other difference to you see between "our" GH>Labour Day, and "your" Labor Day?

Simple: I don't know when your "Labour Day" is. A funny aside: One of
the female news anchors for one of our local TV stations announced last
week that after 12 years of marriage, she was pregnant with her and her husband's first child. Her due date? The day after Labor Day. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/25/2010 at 3:37 PM <=-

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Do you have that on a macro key? <G>

Let me see... Ctrl-Shift-1 Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!
Let's try that again... Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!
Gee, it works... Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

I figured as much. There was just too much "uniformity" between all the "cheers" you were sending in our general directions. <G>


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Doug.....

Not quite. I think I wanted it more than she did. Fortunately there
were no third parties involved so as painful as it was, we both knew it could have been much worse.

I recall when it was happening. Not that you were exactly happy about
it, but you did not seem to be "upset". I recall thinking that you were
lucky things went reasonably well for you, as well as anything in that situation can go...

But yes, the differences in my experience and yours and Carroll's is understood.

Well, maybe not understood <GG>

That was the happiest day of your life? My goodness... what would it have been like if you had gotten an apartment in a GOOD city, like Kitchener? <GG>

It would have been the same, probably. :) The thing is: my credit
rating had taken a beating because of our troubles so I had no idea if I could have found a place that would take me.

That's it! Miss the joke entirely, and comment back as if my remarks
were serious. Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/25/2010 at 21:58

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Carroll....

And you're dealing with the double whammy. Youngsters, (relatively speaking) and female youngsters to boot!

And people sometimes wonder why my hair, moustache and beard are more
salt than pepper <GG>

Bob replies: "It's simple. We're here, because we're not all there!"

I think we're here because we're not all there. <G>

Speaking strictly for myself, you got me down in a nutshell (no pun
intended <GG>)

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Carroll....

When mine left the second time, I told her I didn't want her to leave,
but if she left, she was not coming back.

Same here, although part of me refused to accept the not coming back
part. Took me a couple months, but finally all of me realised that this
was how it had to be, and my resolve that she would not be coming back
firmed up. And I've never looked back....

Simple: I don't know when your "Labour Day" is. A funny aside: One of

Same as yours... first Monday in September...

week that after 12 years of marriage, she was pregnant with her and her husband's first child. Her due date? The day after Labor Day. <G>

Not funny... appropriate. Of course, it won't be if she is one of those
women who has almost no labour. Most women I know hate those types <GG>

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Carroll...

I figured as much. There was just too much "uniformity" between all the "cheers" you were sending in our general directions. <G>

I have enough trouble with the double letters in your name. The
syringomyelia tends to cause my fingers to "stutter" when typing, especially when typing multiple letters as in your name. I figured it was either use
a macro, or end up with a Bronx cheer that was three pages long <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/25/2010 at 22:10

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Not quite. I think I wanted it more than she did. Fortunately there were no third parties involved so as painful as it was, we both knew

it

could have been much worse.

I recall when it was happening. Not that you were exactly happy about
it, but you did not seem to be "upset". I recall thinking that you were lucky things went reasonably well for you, as well as anything in that situation can go...

It was the staying with her that was causing all of the pain. The
leaving was the relief.

But yes, the differences in my experience and yours and Carroll's is understood.

Well, maybe not understood <GG>

No, not that I truly grokked it - just understood it in a general
theoretical sense.

That was the happiest day of your life? My goodness... what would

it

have been like if you had gotten an apartment in a GOOD city, like Kitchener? <GG>

It would have been the same, probably. :) The thing is: my credit rating had taken a beating because of our troubles so I had no idea if

I

could have found a place that would take me.

That's it! Miss the joke entirely, and comment back as if my remarks
were serious. Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

Oh I got the joke. I just chose to go a different direction. :)
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And people sometimes wonder why my hair, moustache and beard are more GH>salt than pepper <GG>

I don't have kids, and even *I* know why. <G>

Speaking strictly for myself, you got me down in a nutshell (no pun GH>intended <GG>)

Yeah, right (the "no pun intended" part.) <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/26/2010 at 9:04 AM <=-

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Same here, although part of me refused to accept the not coming back

I don't know if I refused to accept it or not. If I did, I blocked that
part out. <G>

part. Took me a couple months, but finally all of me realised that this GH>was how it had to be, and my resolve that she would not be coming back GH>firmed up. And I've never looked back....

I didn't want her to leave, but if she didn't want to be here bad enough
that she wanted to leave, twice, I sure didn't want her sticking around.

Simple: I don't know when your "Labour Day" is. A funny aside: One of

Same as yours... first Monday in September...

I wasn't sure.

week that after 12 years of marriage, she was pregnant with her and her GH>CM> husband's first child. Her due date? The day after Labor Day. <G>

Not funny... appropriate. Of course, it won't be if she is one of those GH>women who has almost no labour. Most women I know hate those types <GG>

I'm sure we'll find out over the next 6 months. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/26/2010 at 9:09 AM <=-

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when typing multiple letters as in your name. I figured it was either use GH>a macro, or end up with a Bronx cheer that was three pages long <GG>

Given all that, what does it say about a person, when they've got a
"Bronx cheer" as one of their macros? <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/26/2010 at 9:34 AM <=-

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That's it! Miss the joke entirely, and comment back as if my remarks
were serious. Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

There he goes with that macro key again! <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/26/2010 at 6:39 PM <=-

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Barry....

Oh. I could see where the spell checking utility would miss that --
'hose' is a valid word. As for the rest, potentially bad teaching (I

The "spell checking utility" was the teacher. They didn't use a
computer... they wrote it by hand (you remember.. how you wrote those 1,000 lines out <GG>)

the hook either). Parent(s) need to be responsible also, though I
barely remember my parents being involved. I know Dad had to

Parents being responsible is a fine sentiment, but this happened
entirely at school, and the teacher was responsible for teaching them proper English. I did what I could at home, but was always met with "Miss so-and-
so says not to worry about that". And when I confronted the teacher,
that is when I got the line about she didn't want to stifle their
creativity.

In my case the 'parental involvment' occurred way before starting
school: I was writing (as opposed to printing) before first grade, so

Now, if this were to happen, there would be a parent/teacher meeting
where the parent would be told not to advance the student too quickly or
they will feel out of place in class, and become bored. IOW, they
wouldn't fit the cookie cutter mold the school is trying to present as "education"...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/26/2010 at 22:25

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Barry....

Just for you then...
Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

Ooo! My very own!!

And here is one to share with Carroll...
Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

Awwwww! We're so blessed! (And wet!)

Then I have a purpose in life, and my job here is done (for now <GG>)

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/26/2010 at 22:30

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Doug....

It was the staying with her that was causing all of the pain. The
leaving was the relief.

As in "plop, plop... fizz, fizz"? <GG>

That's it! Miss the joke entirely, and comment back as if my remarks were serious. Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

Oh I got the joke. I just chose to go a different direction. :)

Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt! <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/26/2010 at 22:31

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That would be bad -- what the heck are they talking (writing) about?? Sure, there are bound to be some terms creeping in the reader is not familiar with, or 'old terms' giving the vice-versa effect. (For the latter, I would guess most kids barely have a clue what a typewriter is, and if so probably think of the electric ones rather than the manual ones.)

The errors had nothing to do with that stuff... simple spelling
errors like "hose" in reference to our house, and the like, along
with grammatical errors... dangling participles, poor sentence
structure, NO sentenc
structure...

Oh. I could see where the spell checking utility would miss that --
'hose' is a valid word. As for the rest, potentially bad teaching (I
don't want to blame the teacher completely but don't want to leave off
the hook either). Parent(s) need to be responsible also, though I
barely remember my parents being involved. I know Dad had to
'reprogramme' me on Math when the education system switched from the
"Old Math" to the "New Math" but I don't remember him doing so.

In my case the 'parental involvment' occurred way before starting
school: I was writing (as opposed to printing) before first grade, so
the basis for 'official' learning was set way before starting school.

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Carroll...

was how it had to be, and my resolve that she would not be coming back GH>firmed up. And I've never looked back....

I didn't want her to leave, but if she didn't want to be here bad enough that she wanted to leave, twice, I sure didn't want her sticking around.

Yeah... again, pretty much how I felt when the shock of things wore
off...

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/27/2010 at 16:44

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Carroll...

when typing multiple letters as in your name. I figured it was either

use

a macro, or end up with a Bronx cheer that was three pages long <GG>

Given all that, what does it say about a person, when they've got a
"Bronx cheer" as one of their macros? <G>

They are lazy (and BTW, up here, it is not known as a "Bronx cheer",
but a "raspberry"... or if you are from Kitchener-Waterloo <home of RIM>
it is a "blackberry" <G>)

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I don't have kids, and even *I* know why. <G>

But you are wise beyond your years, sir (or is that beyond your ears? GH><GG>)

You're confusing "wise" with "wet". <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/27/2010 at 6:06 PM <=-

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They are lazy (and BTW, up here, it is not known as a "Bronx cheer",
but a "raspberry"... or if you are from Kitchener-Waterloo <home of RIM> GH>it is a "blackberry" <G>)

Punny, very punny. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/27/2010 at 6:09 PM <=-

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There he goes with that macro key again! <G>

What macro key? I am just very good at remembering how to spell it <G>

Uh huh. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 2/27/2010 at 6:09 PM <=-

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Carroll....

And people sometimes wonder why my hair, moustache and beard are more GH>salt than pepper <GG>

I don't have kids, and even *I* know why. <G>

But you are wise beyond your years, sir (or is that beyond your ears?
<GG>)

Speaking strictly for myself, you got me down in a nutshell (no pun GH>intended <GG>)

Yeah, right (the "no pun intended" part.) <G>

Not only was it not intended, it wasn't a pun <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 02/27/2010 at 16:43

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Oh. I could see where the spell checking utility would miss that -- 'hose' is a valid word. As for the rest, potentially bad teaching (I

The "spell checking utility" was the teacher. They didn't use a computer... they wrote it by hand (you remember.. how you wrote
those 1,000 lines out <GG>)

Ah! yes - and I still have the residual cramping! In that case the
teacher (more like group leader) should have caught the mistakes and
some how brought it to the attention of the student. has to be more
than an underlining of the misspelled words -- if I were the student I probably would have looked at the letter grade and figured "good - I
passed" and that would be the end of it.

the hook either). Parent(s) need to be responsible also, though I
barely remember my parents being involved. I know Dad had to

Parents being responsible is a fine sentiment, but this happened
entirely at school, and the teacher was responsible for teaching
them proper English. I did what I could at home, but was always
met with "Miss so-and- so says not to worry about that". And when
I confronted the teacher, that is when I got the line about she
didn't want to stifle their creativity.

<grumble> Miss-so-and-so needs to have a little one-on-one discussion.
Step One is to do the roghh draft, Step Two is to polish it up. Step
Two gets repeated several times.

In my case the 'parental involvment' occurred way before starting
school: I was writing (as opposed to printing) before first grade, so

Now, if this were to happen, there would be a parent/teacher
meeting where the parent would be told not to advance the student
too quickly or they will feel out of place in class, and become
bored. IOW, they wouldn't fit the cookie cutter mold the school
is trying to present as "education"...

All people do not learn at the same rate. Wonder how they would react
to the ultra-smart kids who are in college in their early teens. An
there's the opposite: those "mentally challenged" individuals who are
having problems printing their names at 40.

Unfortunately it is easier to try to shove everyone into the cookie
cutter mold. Doesn't work. And as for what my parents would have done
if they were told that -- probably would have yanked me out of the publicschooling and plunked me down in one of the privately-run schools
in the city.

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Carroll...

I don't have kids, and even *I* know why. <G>

But you are wise beyond your years, sir (or is that beyond your ears? GH><GG>)

You're confusing "wise" with "wet". <G>

Well, I was trying to be nice for a change, but since you insist...


Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/01/2010 at 20:45

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Carroll...

There he goes with that macro key again! <G>

What macro key? I am just very good at remembering how to spell it <G>

Uh huh. <G>

Thppppfffffppppphhhttttt!

See? <GG>

Gregg in Kitchener, ON on 03/01/2010 at 20:46

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But you are wise beyond your years, sir (or is that beyond your ears? GH>CM> GH><GG>)

You're confusing "wise" with "wet". <G>

Well, I was trying to be nice for a change, but since you insist...
<GG>

That happens so rarely, that I didn't recognize the effort! <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/2/2010 at 8:46 AM <=-

Coming to you "almost live" from Searcy, Arkansas

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but a "raspberry"... or if you are from Kitchener-Waterloo <home of

it is a "blackberry" <G>)

Punny, very punny. <G>

Why thank you sir... it is nice to be appreciated <GG>

I wouldn't go *that* far. <G>


-=> Carroll McAllister on 3/2/2010 at 8:47 AM <=-

Coming to you "almost live" from Searcy, Arkansas

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