Hi Ky!
KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
KM> still picking their noses. :O
Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose job
I would be taking my time with the decision!
KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
KM> still picking their noses. :O
Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose job
I would be taking my time with the decision!
That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
Hi Ky!
> KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
> KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
> KM> still picking their noses. :O
> Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose job
> I would be taking my time with the decision!
KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
.. I hate it when people say 'bite me' and then act all surprised.
> KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
> KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
> KM> still picking their noses. :O
> Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose job
> I would be taking my time with the decision!
KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
No, that's the sidewalk in January.
.. I hate it when people say 'bite me' and then act all surprised.
Astonished, even.
Hi Ky!
> > KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
> > KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
> > KM> still picking their noses. :O
> > Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose job
> > I would be taking my time with the decision!
> KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
> So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
KM> No, that's the sidewalk in January.
Or the name for a super-cooler for CPUs!
> .. I hate it when people say 'bite me' and then act all surprised.
KM> Astonished, even.
When I was working I was involved in a shoplifting stop (I was on the
good side). Loss Prevention, manager or supervisor, and me approach
the three shoplifters, ...'discussion', the male of the shoplifting
trio trying to act all innocent and innocent, in frustation he blurts
out to me to take a look in his (female accomplace's) purse. (Was a
bigger style,). So I did -- he yells out about "what are you doing?!
You can't do that!!" Me: "You told me to!". He sputters a bit and
realizes he did.
> > KM> The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers.iscourse
> > KM> has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
> > KM> still picking their noses. :O
> > Well sure: plastic surgery is expensive and if I were to get a nose
> > I would be taking my time with the decision!
> KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
> So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
KM> No, that's the sidewalk in January.
Or the name for a super-cooler for CPUs!
Or a liniment, useful after too many hours staring at a CPU's
output!
> .. I hate it when people say 'bite me' and then act all surprised.
KM> Astonished, even.
When I was working I was involved in a shoplifting stop (I was on the
good side). Loss Prevention, manager or supervisor, and me approach
the three shoplifters, ...'discussion', the male of the shoplifting
trio trying to act all innocent and innocent, in frustation he blurts
out to me to take a look in his (female accomplace's) purse. (Was a
bigger style,). So I did -- he yells out about "what are you doing?!
You can't do that!!" Me: "You told me to!". He sputters a bit and
realizes he did.
Someday gonna star in one of those episodes of "Really Dumb
Crooks" :D
Hi Ky!
> > KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
> > So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
> KM> No, that's the sidewalk in January.
> Or the name for a super-cooler for CPUs!
KM> Or a liniment, useful after too many hours staring at a CPU's
KM> output!
Been watching _The Beverly Hillbillies_ and trying to search on-line for Granny's 'medicines'?!
KM> Someday gonna star in one of those episodes of "Really Dumb
KM> Crooks" :D
I rememeber reading in the newspaper a woman got caught stealing a
television by suspending the box between her legs and covering with her skirt. So the detail is this was in the late 70's/early 80's when TV's
had the glass CRT - so heavy and almost a cube.
.. Is a rivalry between two vegetarians still called a beef?
> > KM> That's the problem with eyeball estimates. <g>
> > So I see! Or is that 'sew eye see'?
> KM> No, that's the sidewalk in January.
> Or the name for a super-cooler for CPUs!
KM> Or a liniment, useful after too many hours staring at a CPU's
KM> output!
Been watching _The Beverly Hillbillies_ and trying to search on-line for Granny's 'medicines'?!
Methinks Granny's medicines came from a still.... :D
KM> Someday gonna star in one of those episodes of "Really Dumb
KM> Crooks" :D
I rememeber reading in the newspaper a woman got caught stealing a television by suspending the box between her legs and covering with her skirt. So the detail is this was in the late 70's/early 80's when TV's
had the glass CRT - so heavy and almost a cube.
Oh yeah, and the pregnant-with-steaks is another.
Way long ago a pair of perps relieved the local hardware store of
a lagfe TV by the simple expedient of carrying it out the front
door like they were just the store's delivery guys. Not sure who
get sthe dunce hat for that one...
Ctrl_Z might be useful: in LibreOffice it will clear the last 'section' entered, though sometmes I'm not sure what it considers a section so may have to Ctrl_Z more than once.
CTRL-Z is called Undo.
That'll work! Nano, a terminal editor in Linux, uses ^K to Kill a line
and ^U to paste it back in, or Undo. ...With the BBS stuff on Virtual Windows I use SEdit for the word processor and ^Y is the line killer and
^U is Undo. -- Have to be careful to remember where one is!!
Ctrl_Z might be useful: in LibreOffice it will clear the last 'section' entered, though sometmes I'm not sure what it considers a section so may have to Ctrl_Z more than once.That'll work! Nano, a terminal editor in Linux, uses ^K to Kill a line
CTRL-Z is called Undo.
and ^U to paste it back in, or Undo. ...With the BBS stuff on Virtual Windows I use SEdit for the word processor and ^Y is the line killer and
^U is Undo. -- Have to be careful to remember where one is!!
Can you use that key sequence to effectively cut and paste the
text elsewhere, or does the ^U always put it back in the place
where it was killed from?
I used to know nano pretty well when it was the default editor
for email and news postings on my old shell account ~30 years
ago. I am trying to relearn it now. ;)
From my limited experience it's always the line the cursor is on. The
thing to watch is sometimes there seem to be two cursors: thea real one
and the one where I think I am because I moved some place. Not sure how
to explain it but I've managed to do the I thought I was here thing.
To move a line I've ^K (kills/deletes the whole line), then move to
desired location and ^U to insert there.
I used to know nano pretty well when it was the default editor
for email and news postings on my old shell account ~30 years
ago. I am trying to relearn it now. ;)
It should come back like riding a bike: scraped kneeds and all! <bseg>
For line numbering it's something like ALT_Shift_# (or 3) -- I don't
use it that often. Have found sometimes the line numbers in an error
message don't line up. 'Error line 30' might not be close, but could be because I tend to use a lot of comments, separators (series of
##########), and blank lines -- just to make it more readable.
To move a line I've ^K (kills/deletes the whole line), then move to
desired location and ^U to insert there.
From my limited experience it's always the line the cursor is on. The
thing to watch is sometimes there seem to be two cursors: thea real one
and the one where I think I am because I moved some place. Not sure how
to explain it but I've managed to do the I thought I was here thing.
To move a line I've ^K (kills/deletes the whole line), then move to
desired location and ^U to insert there.
Thanks, I will have to try that!
I used to know nano pretty well when it was the default editorIt should come back like riding a bike: scraped kneeds and all! <bseg>
for email and news postings on my old shell account ~30 years
ago. I am trying to relearn it now. ;)
Well, that was ~30 years ago and muscle memory on computers seems
to go away once you replace one utility with another. ;)
To move a line I've ^K (kills/deletes the whole line), then move to
desired location and ^U to insert there.
*blink* They have reinvented edlin.
<runs away screaming>
When I need a text editor, I like Kate, or KWrite (same program,
simpler interface).
Or the text editor that comes with the Xfe file manager, that's
nice too. (I like Xfe, except it can't see network drives.)
Xfe has a root mode (runs as a separate instance) and you can set
colors different from user mode, so you're reminded that you're
one or the other.
Hi Mike!
From my limited experience it's always the line the cursor is on. The
thing to watch is sometimes there seem to be two cursors: thea real one
and the one where I think I am because I moved some place. Not sure how
to explain it but I've managed to do the I thought I was here thing.
To move a line I've ^K (kills/deletes the whole line), then move to
desired location and ^U to insert there.
I've also done a ^K^U^U sequence: kills the line, replaces it and then
places it immediately underneath (the result is two duplicate lines).
For me handy when playing with stuff like fstab and scripts where I want
a copy of the original line (for comparison, history) and modify the new
one.
Example:
# RAM drive of 50 MB
# tmpfs /mnt/ramdisk tmpfs rw,size=50M 0 0
tmpfs /mnt/ramdisk tmpfs rw,size=5G 0 0
50 Mb wprked but not large enough. G option should work - yup! If
didn't easy enough to go back.
It should come back like riding a bike: scraped kneeds and all! <bseg>
Expand the Terminal screen to larger/full size: there are a whole bunch
of other options!
^W "Where" -- how-come not ^F for "Find"? I sort of use Where's
Waldo to remind me of W
For line numbering it's something like ALT_Shift_# (or 3) -- I don't
use it that often. Have found sometimes the line numbers in an error
message don't line up. 'Error line 30' might not be close, but could be because I tend to use a lot of comments, separators (series of
##########), and blank lines -- just to make it more readable.
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Does pressing and releasing a CTRL key show where the Cursor is located as Window XP does?
Does pressing and releasing a CTRL key show where the Cursor is located as Window XP does?
I don't know about Nano, but that behavior is a setting in Windows (any version) and it is NOT enabled by default. So someone enabled it in the
dim and forgotten past. <g>
^W "Where" -- how-come not ^F for "Find"? I sort of use Where's
Waldo to remind me of W
Does pressing and releasing a CTRL key show where the Cursor is
located as Window XP does?
ED VANCE wrote:
I don't know about Nano, but that behavior is a setting in Windows (any version) and it is NOT enabled by default. So someone enabled it in the
dim and forgotten past. <g>
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I *think* that is one of the Accessability Options in Windows, and a user does have to turn it on in order for it to work.
Mike
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Hi Ed!
I had to check! I have inserted/deleted items because I thought the
cursor was one place and actually another. (For instance can highlight
as if getting ready to cut or copy but won't do it because the cursor is still elsewhere where I left it last. -- I really should check out if
that function exists but first!)
The answer to your question is 'yes': a Ctrl C willpop up a display
telling which line the cursor is on and at wha percentage of the file
that is (47%, for example).
nano's help display is quite extensive! Now if I could only remmeberit
all!
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I *think* that is one of the Accessability Options in Windows, and a user
does have to turn it on in order for it to work.
I haven't used assessibility options.
I'm thinking the setting is for the Mouse.
Remember I said "think".
I had to check! I have inserted/deleted items because I thought the
cursor was one place and actually another. (For instance can highlight
as if getting ready to cut or copy but won't do it because the cursor is still elsewhere where I left it last. -- I really should check out if
that function exists but first!)
The answer to your question is 'yes': a Ctrl C willpop up a display
telling which line the cursor is on and at wha percentage of the file
that is (47%, for example).
Not CTRL C.
Just Pressing and releasing one of the CTRL keys does it for me
on the XP box
Hope what you learned from using CTRL C helps you keep track of
where the
Cursor is AND keeps you out of trouble
There are some 'features' in this Android phone that I find hard
to adjust to.
IT remembering what was on the last web page when I exited the
Firefox
browser.i.e. When I click the Weather bookmark in Firefox IT
loads the last
weatherdata from the last time I looked at that.
I hafta press the 3 vertical dots and tap the circle to refresh
the page to
get the the current report.
I am slowly adjusting to what IT expects of me to do.
First C=64, then 486DX33, XP and Vista and now this THING tries
to keep Me
humble.
But I still turn those things on when I want them to abuse Me.
So much to learn since 1984..
ED VANCE wrote:
Control Panel, Mouse, Pointer Options, bottom checkbox. <g>
Oh good heavens, don't do that!
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Hi Ed!
You forgot I'm using Ubuntu (Linux) and you're using XP (Windows). And
then I checked on my Virtual XP machine (the one I'm using currently)
and 'nano' is not installed. I don't know if was an option.
Now that second part is asking a lot! <g>
IRC in Firefox's Settings (probably the Browsing section though I didn't
see what I was looking for) is an option to open the last site you were looking at. ...Seems like that should referesh your data so you might
see the old data for a half-second while the new data is being
downloaded.
The machines are training the humans! <g>
Like having a friend with an annoying habit: there are enough positives
to override the negatives.
The book or the year?!
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Here, if You get in trouble Ky can straighten You out ( Me too).
He just did. Thanks Ky.
Hi Ed!
EV> browser.i.e. When I click the Weather bookmark in Firefox IT
EV> loads the last
EV> weatherdata from the last time I looked at that.
EV> I hafta press the 3 vertical dots and tap the circle to refresh
EV> the page to
EV> get the the current report.
IRC in Firefox's Settings (probably the Browsing section though I didn't
see what I was looking for) is an option to open the last site you were looking at. ...Seems like that should referesh your data so you might
see the old data for a half-second while the new data is being
downloaded.
Here, if You get in trouble Ky can straighten You out ( Me too).
He just did. Thanks Ky.
Hi Ed!
EV> Here, if You get in trouble Ky can straighten You out ( Me too).
EV> He just did. Thanks Ky.
Yes. :) At least don't get our heads bitten off for saying something wrong/incorrect. I participate in a few forums with similar qualities;
I will admit to watching my phrasing; I recently posted a question in an Ubuntu site and sort of emphasized I probably was using the correct term
to explain what I wanted to do. I wasn't and got gently corrected.
.. Mother eagle: "Jr said his first words: E Pluribus Unum!"
EV> Here, if You get in trouble Ky can straighten You out ( Me too).
EV> He just did. Thanks Ky.
Yes. :) At least don't get our heads bitten off for saying something wrong/incorrect. I participate in a few forums with similar qualities;
I will admit to watching my phrasing; I recently posted a question in an Ubuntu site and sort of emphasized I probably was using the correct term
to explain what I wanted to do. I wasn't and got gently corrected.
The linux world is no longer mostly snotty teenagers. Discourse
has matured along with the aging users. Well, mostly; some are
still picking their noses. :O
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