• Re: A trot down memory la

    From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Monday, July 25, 2022 15:27:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:
    Hi Folks!

    Take a trip down memory lane with a bit of history on the Intel 8086
    computer chip --

    https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/intels-revolutionary-8086-chip-custom-p c-228/

    Good article!


    .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or user.

    I like this method...


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 06:10:00

    Hi Ky!

    [your post has been invisible all week, but today showed up
    again...]

    Odd. AFAIK I didn't resend it; I think the last message was to Mike
    Powell.


    Hi Folks!
    Take a trip down memory lane with a bit of history on the Intel 8086 computer chip -- https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/intels-revolutionary-8086-chip-custom-p c-228/
    Good article!

    Glad you liked it -- some of us had those systems!


    .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or user.
    I like this method...

    Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Saturday, July 30, 2022 13:40:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:
    Hi Ky!

    KM> [your post has been invisible all week, but today showed up
    KM> again...]

    Odd. AFAIK I didn't resend it; I think the last message was to Mike
    Powell.

    This has happened a couple times before. Suspect the database index gets corrupted, but when it reruns, it fixes itself. Might just be a matter
    of age/size.

    > https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/intels-revolutionary-8086-chip-custom-p
    > c-228/
    KM> Good article!

    Glad you liked it -- some of us had those systems!

    Now you're scaring me <g>


    > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or user.
    KM> I like this method...

    Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!

    Depends how broken you want it. <g>
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Sunday, July 31, 2022 05:58:00


    Hi Ky!

    KM> [your post has been invisible all week, but today showed up
    KM> again...]
    Odd. AFAIK I didn't resend it; I think the last message was to Mike
    Powell.
    This has happened a couple times before. Suspect the database
    index gets corrupted, but when it reruns, it fixes itself. Might
    just be a matter of age/size.

    Possibly/probably. I've received a few quirks during my mailruns
    lately; figure due to system backup being run or something loading the
    system.


    > https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/intels-revolutionary-8086-chip-custom-p
    > c-228/
    KM> Good article!
    Glad you liked it -- some of us had those systems!
    Now you're scaring me <g>

    Well the 'Super XT' had the Chicklet-sized memory chips and before that
    I had a DEC Rainbow 100 and it have the 8088 and Z80 (the two processors
    shared CPU duty).


    > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or
    ser
    KM> I like this method...
    Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!
    Depends how broken you want it. <g>

    If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!




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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Monday, August 01, 2022 21:01:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:

    > > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or ser
    > KM> I like this method...
    > Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!
    KM> Depends how broken you want it. <g>

    If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!

    It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Tuesday, August 02, 2022 05:47:00

    Hi Ky!

    > > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or
    > KM> I like this method...
    > Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!
    KM> Depends how broken you want it. <g>
    If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D

    Did I forget the second 'o' again?!


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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Friday, August 05, 2022 08:55:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:
    Hi Ky!

    > > > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems, computer or
    > > KM> I like this method...
    > > Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!
    > KM> Depends how broken you want it. <g>
    > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D

    Did I forget the second 'o' again?!

    It's those pesky O-rings!

    What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about six
    times, and every time I've immediately forgot!
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Saturday, August 06, 2022 05:54:00

    Hi Ky!

    > > > .. Percussive maintenance: best way to deal w/ problems,
    omputer
    > > KM> I like this method...
    > > Sometimes necessary. Just not too much!
    > KM> Depends how broken you want it. <g>
    > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
    Did I forget the second 'o' again?!
    It's those pesky O-rings!

    Yum! Onion rings!!


    What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about
    six times, and every time I've immediately forgot!

    <chuckle> BTDT, forgot what I was doing!

    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I did receive notification of a price drop a
    few weeks ago so might be still at a decent price.



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Monday, August 08, 2022 19:11:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:

    > > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    > KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
    > Did I forget the second 'o' again?!
    KM> It's those pesky O-rings!

    Yum! Onion rings!!

    Eat your words? :)


    KM> What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about
    KM> six times, and every time I've immediately forgot!

    <chuckle> BTDT, forgot what I was doing!

    Brain! memory! what did I do with them??

    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I did receive notification of a price drop a
    few weeks ago so might be still at a decent price.

    Ah. Someone had its poor cousin for sale locally (Z590) but $150 seemed
    high when it's $164 on Amazon!
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Tuesday, August 09, 2022 05:53:00

    Hi Ky!

    > > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    > KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
    > Did I forget the second 'o' again?!
    KM> It's those pesky O-rings!
    Yum! Onion rings!!
    Eat your words? :)

    Is that where "turn onion sideways and it says 'no-no'" refers to?!



    KM> What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about
    KM> six times, and every time I've immediately forgot!
    <chuckle> BTDT, forgot what I was doing!
    Brain! memory! what did I do with them??

    Remember to take your Prevagen! ...I've heard of smart octopi - opening
    jars, squirting by-standers for fun, etc., but never anything like that
    about jellyfish.



    MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I did receive notification of a price drop a
    few weeks ago so might be still at a decent price.
    Ah. Someone had its poor cousin for sale locally (Z590) but $150
    seemed high when it's $164 on Amazon!

    Well, $14 is $14 but if you're meaning a $14 difference between the
    'poor cousin' version and mine, I'd probably be spending that $14!



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Wednesday, August 10, 2022 21:57:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:
    Hi Ky!

    > > > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    > > KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
    > > Did I forget the second 'o' again?!
    > KM> It's those pesky O-rings!
    > Yum! Onion rings!!
    KM> Eat your words? :)

    Is that where "turn onion sideways and it says 'no-no'" refers to?!

    I think mine says, "Uh-oh" :D

    > KM> What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about
    > KM> six times, and every time I've immediately forgot!
    > <chuckle> BTDT, forgot what I was doing!
    KM> Brain! memory! what did I do with them??

    Remember to take your Prevagen! ...I've heard of smart octopi - opening jars, squirting by-standers for fun, etc., but never anything like that
    about jellyfish.


    Jellybrain perhaps...


    > MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I did receive notification of a price drop a
    > few weeks ago so might be still at a decent price.
    KM> Ah. Someone had its poor cousin for sale locally (Z590) but $150
    KM> seemed high when it's $164 on Amazon!

    Well, $14 is $14 but if you're meaning a $14 difference between the
    'poor cousin' version and mine, I'd probably be spending that $14!

    Nope, I mean the same board is $14 more on Amazon. Oh well, not like I
    need it this instant. Besides...

    My sister just gift me an almost-new laptop from her office, ejected
    because they have liability concerns and it can't do Win11. i7-6xxx, considerably faster than the i7-3xxx/4xxx on single-threaded, but barely faster on multithreaded, which is kinda weird if you ask me.
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Thursday, August 11, 2022 06:07:00

    Hi Ky!

    > > > If it didn't work originally you have nothing to loose!
    > > KM> It won't be near as loose after I get done beating on it! :D
    > > Did I forget the second 'o' again?!
    > KM> It's those pesky O-rings!
    > Yum! Onion rings!!
    KM> Eat your words? :)
    Is that where "turn onion sideways and it says 'no-no'" refers to?!
    I think mine says, "Uh-oh" :D

    Darn talking onions!


    > KM> What model was your new motherboard again? You've told me about
    > KM> six times, and every time I've immediately forgot!
    > <chuckle> BTDT, forgot what I was doing!
    KM> Brain! memory! what did I do with them??
    Remember to take your Prevagen! ...I've heard of smart octopi - opening jars, squirting by-standers for fun, etc., but never anything like that about jellyfish.
    Jellybrain perhaps...

    Do they make jelly in Kentucky?! (Think the two-letter abbreviation)



    > MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4. I did receive notification of a price drop a
    > few weeks ago so might be still at a decent price.
    KM> Ah. Someone had its poor cousin for sale locally (Z590) but $150
    KM> seemed high when it's $164 on Amazon!
    Well, $14 is $14 but if you're meaning a $14 difference between the
    'poor cousin' version and mine, I'd probably be spending that $14!
    Nope, I mean the same board is $14 more on Amazon. Oh well, not
    like I need it this instant. Besides...

    Plus need that $14 towards the price of the stuff getting attached to
    the board so it works!


    My sister just gift me an almost-new laptop from her office,
    ejected because they have liability concerns and it can't do
    Win11. i7-6xxx, considerably faster than the i7-3xxx/4xxx on single-threaded, but barely faster on multithreaded, which is
    kinda weird if you ask me.

    Good news on the new 'toy'; odd (but not really) about the liability
    issues. And yes, one would think the bigger numbers would mean bigger-better-badder but not true.



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:39:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:

    KM> My sister just gift me an almost-new laptop from her office,
    KM> ejected because they have liability concerns and it can't do
    KM> Win11. i7-6xxx, considerably faster than the i7-3xxx/4xxx on
    KM> single-threaded, but barely faster on multithreaded, which is
    KM> kinda weird if you ask me.

    Good news on the new 'toy'; odd (but not really) about the liability
    issues. And yes, one would think the bigger numbers would mean bigger-better-badder but not true.

    So turns out the BIOS date was munged up, but the asset tag in Dell's
    form says 2016. Still pretty new by my lights, and has an NVMe so quite snappy. I named it Pony. Everyone wants a pony, right? :)

    Now if I could get its Win10 to let the rest of the network SEE it... everything is set correctly, shared and discoverable and the super
    secret admin account activated, but still is only a name on the network
    and refuses to let anyone else see its precious files. I seem to recall
    I had this problem with Fireball's Win10 after it was lately updated...

    ... if I'm going to have network problems, why don't I install linux
    instead? that way I could have the same network problems but overall
    less stupidity.

    Oh, here's the latest. The God Mode (access every setting in one place) shortcut now won't show a name, only the icon.
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Sunday, August 14, 2022 06:10:00

    Hi Ky!

    KM> My sister just gift me an almost-new laptop from her office,
    KM> ejected because they have liability concerns and it can't do
    KM> Win11. i7-6xxx, considerably faster than the i7-3xxx/4xxx on
    KM> single-threaded, but barely faster on multithreaded, which is
    KM> kinda weird if you ask me.
    Good news on the new 'toy'; odd (but not really) about the liability
    issues. And yes, one would think the bigger numbers would mean bigger-better-badder but not true.
    So turns out the BIOS date was munged up, but the asset tag in
    Dell's form says 2016. Still pretty new by my lights, and has an
    NVMe so quite snappy. I named it Pony. Everyone wants a pony,
    right? :)

    Right! It's "Ky's Litle Pony"! ...I wonder if the BIOS date was damaged because of a bad BIOS update or something to do with encryption: it was a business computer and so possibly using a key when communicating.



    Now if I could get its Win10 to let the rest of the network SEE
    it... everything is set correctly, shared and discoverable and
    the super secret admin account activated, but still is only a
    name on the network and refuses to let anyone else see its
    precious files. I seem to recall I had this problem with
    Fireball's Win10 after it was lately updated...

    Well, maybe my guess on why the munged BIOS date is why the files aren't
    being seen externally.

    ... if I'm going to have network problems, why don't I install
    linux instead? that way I could have the same network problems
    but overall less stupidity.

    Works for me! Might be able to have a passageway between the possibly encryted Windows section and the Linux section (shared folder). (My
    guess is still encrypted, but worth the fun playing!)



    Oh, here's the latest. The God Mode (access every setting in one
    place) shortcut now won't show a name, only the icon.

    "Use my name in vane and banishment!"



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Monday, August 15, 2022 23:50:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:

    KM> So turns out the BIOS date was munged up, but the asset tag in
    KM> Dell's form says 2016. Still pretty new by my lights, and has an
    KM> NVMe so quite snappy. I named it Pony. Everyone wants a pony,
    KM> right? :)

    Right! It's "Ky's Litle Pony"!

    LOL that's it.

    ...I wonder if the BIOS date was damaged
    because of a bad BIOS update or something to do with encryption: it was a business computer and so possibly using a key when communicating.

    Normally there's an asset date that's permanent, and a BIOS date that
    can change. Apparently the former got rewritten along with the latter.

    KM> Now if I could get its Win10 to let the rest of the network SEE
    KM> it... everything is set correctly, shared and discoverable and
    KM> the super secret admin account activated, but still is only a
    KM> name on the network and refuses to let anyone else see its
    KM> precious files. I seem to recall I had this problem with
    KM> Fireball's Win10 after it was lately updated...

    Well, maybe my guess on why the munged BIOS date is why the files aren't being seen externally.

    No, this is a Recent-version-Win10 thing. Fireball's Win10 does it too.

    OTOH, it can see the linux box's files.


    KM> ... if I'm going to have network problems, why don't I install
    KM> linux instead? that way I could have the same network problems
    KM> but overall less stupidity.

    Works for me! Might be able to have a passageway between the possibly encryted Windows section and the Linux section (shared folder). (My
    guess is still encrypted, but worth the fun playing!)

    Not encrypted. It was a brand new install from the recovery partition.
    And it shows you if it's encrypted. It's not.

    KM> Oh, here's the latest. The God Mode (access every setting in one
    KM> place) shortcut now won't show a name, only the icon.

    "Use my name in vane and banishment!"

    God cannot be seen...


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Tuesday, August 16, 2022 06:20:00

    Hi Ky!

    KM> So turns out the BIOS date was munged up, but the asset tag in
    KM> Dell's form says 2016. Still pretty new by my lights, and has an
    KM> NVMe so quite snappy. I named it Pony. Everyone wants a pony,
    KM> right? :)
    Right! It's "Ky's Litle Pony"!
    LOL that's it.

    Thought you might like that one!


    ...I wonder if the BIOS date was damaged
    because of a bad BIOS update or something to do with encryption: it was a business computer and so possibly using a key when communicating.
    Normally there's an asset date that's permanent, and a BIOS date
    that can change. Apparently the former got rewritten along with
    the latter.

    OK -- I was thinking the BIOS date always stayed the same but then that
    didn't make sense because BIOSs can be updated and that also changes the
    BIOS date to reflect the revision date. ...I just don't spend enough
    time staring at the BIOS screens!

    ...Changing that asset date probably isn't all that much work: it's
    changing electron states, not like soldering wires, but still something
    that seems to indicated a major error occurred some place as that's a
    field normally not played with.


    KM> Now if I could get its Win10 to let the rest of the network SEE
    KM> it... everything is set correctly, shared and discoverable and
    KM> the super secret admin account activated, but still is only a
    KM> name on the network and refuses to let anyone else see its
    KM> precious files. I seem to recall I had this problem with
    KM> Fireball's Win10 after it was lately updated...
    Well, maybe my guess on why the munged BIOS date is why the files aren't being seen externally.
    No, this is a Recent-version-Win10 thing. Fireball's Win10 does
    it too.

    OK -- you can tell I haven't been paying attention to Windows. ...As
    for the files not being seen, appears this site may offer a solution: http://woshub.com/network-computers-not-showing-windows-10/

    ...Huh: just realzed I had searched for "Windows 10 files not seen on
    network" and the results can back for computers not being seen. Not the
    same. guys! (Well, step one would be to see the computer, then step two
    the files!)



    OTOH, it can see the linux box's files.

    Linux makes things easy! ...Well, sometimes! <gg>



    KM> ... if I'm going to have network problems, why don't I install
    KM> linux instead? that way I could have the same network problems
    KM> but overall less stupidity.
    Works for me! Might be able to have a passageway between the possibly encryted Windows section and the Linux section (shared folder). (My
    guess is still encrypted, but worth the fun playing!)
    Not encrypted. It was a brand new install from the recovery
    partition. And it shows you if it's encrypted. It's not.

    I've had icons/indicators display the opposite state but if Linux is
    seeing the files without any problem pretty much indicates they're not encrypled and Windows just isn't communicating properly. Seems to
    indicate the link above might be the clue.


    KM> Oh, here's the latest. The God Mode (access every setting in one
    KM> place) shortcut now won't show a name, only the icon.
    "Use my name in vane and banishment!"
    God cannot be seen...

    Reminded me of the cartoon panel of a living room, woman answers the
    door and two missionaries ask "Have you found Jesus?". The living room curtains are pushed out a bit and a pair of sandled feet are beneath.



    .. The roof of your mouth is more like a ceiling.
    I gotta use this line on the dentist. <g>

    I've started printing out 'strange items of interest' for my 6-month
    checkups. First one was a several-year-old toothpaste ad with a casually-good-looking guy with two decent-looking ladies. He is missing
    a front tooth. He's also missing an eyebrow (and he has dark hair) but
    just about everyone misses that detail.



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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Sunday, April 09, 2023 23:25:00
    BARRY MARTIN wrote:
    I've started printing out 'strange items of interest' for my 6-month checkups. First one was a several-year-old toothpaste ad with a casually-good-looking guy with two decent-looking ladies. He is missing
    a front tooth. He's also missing an eyebrow (and he has dark hair) but
    just about everyone misses that detail.

    Ah, ad artwork done with MidJourney. <g>
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Ky Moffet on Sunday, April 09, 2023 06:54:00

    Hi Ky!

    I've started printing out 'strange items of interest' for my 6-month checkups. First one was a several-year-old toothpaste ad with a casually-good-looking guy with two decent-looking ladies. He is missing
    a front tooth. He's also missing an eyebrow (and he has dark hair) but
    just about everyone misses that detail.
    Ah, ad artwork done with MidJourney. <g>

    Possibly. Nothing as intricate as the dove with gears as an example on
    the Wikipedia page. ...I have my semi-annual checkup Tuesday and
    bringing a couple of 'quirky' printouts. So far well-received and
    nothing they have seen before.


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