BARRY MARTIN wrote:

KM> respond in a timely manner, hence the "busy" thing.

Based on what you described some sort of read/write/buffer failure seems
to make sense. ...I'm tangentally thinking of solid state drives and
how long they will last. (Probably not at all the same.)

It has no cache, but if an electronic gate is clogging up, so to
speak... that's how it acts, anyway. Going to become a wind chime,
methinks. I have a whole boxful of old small drives that don't have
issues, so it's not special.

KM> Which is amazing because if there's one place IBM failed
KM> spectacularly, it was in hard drives (remember the fractured
KM> platter issue?). This is the only live IBM HD I've ever seen!

Wonder if they'd be interested in analyzing it to see what they did
right, and compare to what failed in that era.

I doubt it, since they haven't made HDs in ages.
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Hi Ky!

Based on what you described some sort of read/write/buffer failure seems
to make sense. ...I'm tangentally thinking of solid state drives and
how long they will last. (Probably not at all the same.)

It has no cache, but if an electronic gate is clogging up, so to
speak... that's how it acts, anyway. Going to become a wind
chime, methinks. I have a whole boxful of old small drives that
don't have issues, so it's not special.

Buit is is special: it's been with you for 18 years!

Have you tried any sort of recovery utility like SpinRite?


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BARRY MARTIN wrote:

Hi Ky!

Buit is is special: it's been with you for 18 years!

Ha. It'll make a special wind chime. :)

Have you tried any sort of recovery utility like SpinRite?

No. It's not the platter at fault, far as I can tell, and that's what
SpinRite addresses -- bad sectors on the platter.

Made a strange discovery yesterday:

That system had routinely complained "no 80 wire cable" for the
secondary IDE channel. So while I was in there replacing the HD, I'd
replaced the 40 wire with an 80 wire to shut it up.

And then DOS can't see the DVD drive on that cable. The BIOS sees it,
the driver loads (both parts), but "drive R is not available". After
much thrashing around I checked the cable.. nope, it's in there good,
and there's nothing wrong with it or the driver wouldn't load, and
besides, the cable came out of a working system. Well, crap. Swapped it
back to the 40 wire (tho not the same one) and now all is well again.

80 wire normally works fine with DVD drives. WTF?

But! As a bonus, the bootup whine about "no 80 wire cable" has gone away!
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Speaking of CNet adding adware/malware to installer packages -- since SourceForge was acquired by Dice Holdings, they've been doing the same
-- and worse, hijacking major projects:

https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/28/091238
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KY MOFFET wrote to KY MOFFET <=-

You're talking to yourself again! <g>

Speaking of CNet adding adware/malware to installer packages --
since SourceForge was acquired by Dice Holdings, they've been
doing the same -- and worse, hijacking major projects: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/28/091238

IMO advertising is fine but leave it to the side of the main article,
not stick it in the product like CNet, SourceForge and probably a few
others are doing with their installers. Thanks for the reference, I'll download from these sites even less (sometimes they are the only
source).

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BARRY MARTIN wrote:

KY MOFFET wrote to KY MOFFET<=-

You're talking to yourself again!<g>

I'm having an identity crisis. <g>

KM> Speaking of CNet adding adware/malware to installer packages --
KM> since SourceForge was acquired by Dice Holdings, they've been
KM> doing the same -- and worse, hijacking major projects:
KM> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/28/091238

IMO advertising is fine but leave it to the side of the main article,
not stick it in the product like CNet, SourceForge and probably a few
others are doing with their installers. Thanks for the reference, I'll

Softpedia too.

download from these sites even less (sometimes they are the only
source).

Yeah, and very often your choices are
1) Sourceforge
2) Somewhere worse
3) Nowhere else

When possible I pull files direct from the author's site, but not
everyone hosts their own files.

And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of there, if
it hasn't already been "Claimed".
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Hi Ky!

You're talking to yourself again!<g>

I'm having an identity crisis. <g>

Suppose there are worse problem!

KM> Speaking of CNet adding adware/malware to installer packages --
KM> since SourceForge was acquired by Dice Holdings, they've been
KM> doing the same -- and worse, hijacking major projects:
KM> https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/05/28/091238
IMO advertising is fine but leave it to the side of the main article,
not stick it in the product like CNet, SourceForge and probably a few
others are doing with their installers. Thanks for the reference, I'll

Softpedia too.

And I'll bet there will be more added to the list.

download from these sites even less (sometimes they are the only
source).

Yeah, and very often your choices are
1) Sourceforge
2) Somewhere worse
3) Nowhere else

Pretty much.

When possible I pull files direct from the author's site, but not
everyone hosts their own files.

True. Seems like self-hosting opens up their computers to a bit of risk
from hackers.

And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of
there, if it hasn't already been "Claimed".

?? Assuming a download site though Googling didn't verify/suggest:
nuclear fusion, Fusion TV network, VMware Fusion (run Windows on
Mac)....

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BARRY MARTIN wrote:

Hi Ky!
> You're talking to yourself again!<g>
KM> I'm having an identity crisis.<g>
Suppose there are worse problem!

Like being myself? :D

KM> Softpedia too.

And I'll bet there will be more added to the list.

No doubt.

KM> When possible I pull files direct from the author's site, but not
KM> everyone hosts their own files.

True. Seems like self-hosting opens up their computers to a bit of risk
from hackers.

I didn't mean on their home system. I meant on their web host, the same
as hosts their website. If a download gets popular that can leave you
with a big and unexpected bandwidth bill. So a lot of 'em prefer to host downloads with Sourceforge etc.

KM> And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of
KM> there, if it hasn't already been "Claimed".

?? Assuming a download site though Googling didn't verify/suggest:
nuclear fusion, Fusion TV network, VMware Fusion (run Windows on
Mac)....

Fusion the modified DOOM game engine.
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Hi Ky!

> You're talking to yourself again!<g>
KM> I'm having an identity crisis.<g>
Suppose there are worse problem!

Like being myself? :D

That for starters! <g>

KM> When possible I pull files direct from the author's site, but not
KM> everyone hosts their own files.
True. Seems like self-hosting opens up their computers to a bit of risk from hackers.

I didn't mean on their home system. I meant on their web host,
the same as hosts their website. If a download gets popular that
can leave you with a big and unexpected bandwidth bill. So a lot
of 'em prefer to host downloads with Sourceforge etc.

Expected flat fees can be easier on the budget than sudden spikes.

KM> And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of
KM> there, if it hasn't already been "Claimed".
?? Assuming a download site though Googling didn't verify/suggest:
nuclear fusion, Fusion TV network, VMware Fusion (run Windows on
Mac)....

Fusion the modified DOOM game engine.

Ah -- LIS some time back I'm not into gaming.

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BARRY MARTIN wrote:

Hi Ky!

> > You're talking to yourself again!<g>
> KM> I'm having an identity crisis.<g>
> Suppose there are worse problem!
KM> Like being myself? :D
That for starters!<g>

I think I just scared myself!

KM> the same as hosts their website. If a download gets popular that
KM> can leave you with a big and unexpected bandwidth bill. So a lot
KM> of 'em prefer to host downloads with Sourceforge etc.
Expected flat fees can be easier on the budget than sudden spikes.

Yeah. Especially when we're talkin' hundreds or even thousands of dollars!

> KM> And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of
> KM> there, if it hasn't already been "Claimed".
> ?? Assuming a download site though Googling didn't verify/suggest:
> nuclear fusion, Fusion TV network, VMware Fusion (run Windows on
> Mac)....
KM> Fusion the modified DOOM game engine.
Ah -- LIS some time back I'm not into gaming.

Well then, no death and destruction for you! ;p~
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Hi Ky!

> > You're talking to yourself again!<g>
> KM> I'm having an identity crisis.<g>
> Suppose there are worse problem!
KM> Like being myself? :D
That for starters!<g>

I think I just scared myself!

Do it again! Do it again!!

KM> the same as hosts their website. If a download gets popular that
KM> can leave you with a big and unexpected bandwidth bill. So a lot
KM> of 'em prefer to host downloads with Sourceforge etc.
Expected flat fees can be easier on the budget than sudden spikes.

Yeah. Especially when we're talkin' hundreds or even thousands of
dollars!

True, though I could see where a small-time home programmer would figure
paying per hit would be cheaper: "it's good but it's not _that_ good --
I'll never get a hundred hits a day" and end up being hit with a big
bill.

> KM> And come to mention it, we probably need to pull Fusion off of
> KM> there, if it hasn't already been "Claimed".
> ?? Assuming a download site though Googling didn't verify/suggest:
> nuclear fusion, Fusion TV network, VMware Fusion (run Windows on
> Mac)....
KM> Fusion the modified DOOM game engine.
Ah -- LIS some time back I'm not into gaming.

Well then, no death and destruction for you! ;p~

I just go outside: die weeds, DIE!!!!




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