Hi Folks!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First
section on HDDs and SSDs -- if/when I need will probably use SpinRight.
Second section was of interest: how to erase data off cell phones. Here
have two old cell phones; would like to give them to local shelter or
maybe the Police to give to someone for just the 911 function. Noble
thought, just I don't want to give the stored names and phone numbers to
a complete stranger. The second half of the article addresses the
how-to:

http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT EwMjU3MDU4NwS2

Now for the get-around-to!


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08-22-17 18:54 Barry Martin wrote to All about Permanently Erase Files
Howdy! Barry,

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.

Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least brilliant
people in the world if the Tagline is true.

Best Regards (73) de Ed W9ODR . .

^ ^ - means DIT DIT

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Hi Folks!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First section on HDDs and SSDs -- if/when I need will probably use SpinRight. Second section was of interest: how to erase data off cell phones.
Here have two old cell phones; would like to give them to local shelter
or maybe the Police to give to someone for just the 911 function.
Noble thought, just I don't want to give the stored names and phone numbers to a complete stranger. The second half of the article
addresses the how-to:

http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing

ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT

EwMjU3MDU4NwS2

Now for the get-around-to!

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Hi Ed!

(Gaa! Top posting! <g>)

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

Friend of mine in Michigan has warned me they're on back order from
China, so yours may be delayed also.

... Is it true that you lose brain cells every time you watch the
radio?

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.
Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least
brilliant people in the world if the Tagline is true.

:) I don't know: the main gentleman who taught me the basics of
electronics was a Ham and an Electronics Engineer and he seemed quite
bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of
verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does
something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are
taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.



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08-24-17 14:40 Barry Martin wrote to Ed Vance about Permanently Erase Files Howdy! Barry,

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Hi Ed!

(Gaa! Top posting! <g>)

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

Friend of mine in Michigan has warned me they're on back order from
China, so yours may be delayed also.

Mine is here in the house somewhere, sneaky thing those ROUNDTUITS are.

... Is it true that you lose brain cells every time you watch the
radio?

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.
Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least
brilliant people in the world if the Tagline is true.

:) I don't know: the main gentleman who taught me the basics of electronics was a Ham and an Electronics Engineer and he seemed quite bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

I was a SWL (Shortwave Listener) before I took the Novice Amateur Radio
Test.

SWL's have to look at the Dial on the Radio to see where to remember
to turn it to the next time they want to listen to a Station they
previously found when listening to their radio.

As a Ham My radio also has a Meter that I can watch the needle wiggle
as I listen.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer
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Hi Ed!

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

Friend of mine in Michigan has warned me they're on back order from
China, so yours may be delayed also.

Mine is here in the house somewhere, sneaky thing those
ROUNDTUITS are.

I've been trying to clean up up here in the Computer Room: "organized
mess" probably best describes it. I know where (most of) the Stuff is,
though have had that pleasant rediscovery as I go through.

... Is it true that you lose brain cells every time you watch the
radio?

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.
Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least
brilliant people in the world if the Tagline is true.

:) I don't know: the main gentleman who taught me the basics of electronics was a Ham and an Electronics Engineer and he seemed quite bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

I was a SWL (Shortwave Listener) before I took the Novice Amateur
Radio Test.

Good place to start: listening and then participating. I built (from a
kit) a short wave receiver -- one of the bands never did work. Had it
checked b y at least one of the gentlemen who taught me (was decades
ago) but never did find the error. Plenty to listen to even with the
one band not available.

SWL's have to look at the Dial on the Radio to see where to
remember to turn it to the next time they want to listen to a
Station they previously found when listening to their radio.

Yup! Probably a lot easier with digital tuners, but back then (for me
early 70's) analog tuning and display.

As a Ham My radio also has a Meter that I can watch the needle
wiggle as I listen.

Ooo! Advanced equipment! <g> I remember S-meters, etc., but not on my receiver. Actually I do like S-meters on my various receivers, just
don't always have that option.

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!


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08-27-17 11:12 Barry Martin wrote to Ed Vance about Permanently Erase Files Howdy! Barry,

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Hi Ed!

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

Friend of mine in Michigan has warned me they're on back order from
China, so yours may be delayed also.

Mine is here in the house somewhere, sneaky thing those
ROUNDTUITS are.

I've been trying to clean up up here in the Computer Room: "organized mess" probably best describes it. I know where (most of) the Stuff is, though have had that pleasant rediscovery as I go through.

It's O.K. when You do it, when the wife does it that's a different thing.

... Is it true that you lose brain cells every time you watch the
radio?

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.
Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least
brilliant people in the world if the Tagline is true.

:) I don't know: the main gentleman who taught me the basics of electronics was a Ham and an Electronics Engineer and he seemed quite bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

Who made the amplifier? Bogen? Proably not Bogen, the one I saw in
the mid-1950's at a friends home was the first Hi-Fi (Monaural) I ever
knew of and it was a GREAT Unit.

I had a problem with my Heath AA-32 Stereo Amplifier making noise on one
side and went to a Clinic a Electronics Store held and was told there
was a loose wire between the Output Tube and the Speaker Terminal Board.
I went home and opened the case and soldered the loose wire back and
the Amp was quite on both sides after that job.

I was a SWL (Shortwave Listener) before I took the Novice Amateur
Radio Test.

Good place to start: listening and then participating. I built (from a kit) a short wave receiver -- one of the bands never did work. Had it checked b y at least one of the gentlemen who taught me (was decades
ago) but never did find the error. Plenty to listen to even with the
one band not available.

At Church a Man and his Son built a Knight-Kit SW Receiver but couldn't
hear any stations on it except when they touched a part inside the
chassis.
They let me take their Radio with the Assembly Manual home to look at it.
The problem was a 2 Terminal Terminal Strip they put in turned the opposite
way it should had been.

The Isolated Terminal Had One Wire soldered to it and the Grounded Terminal
Had Two Wires on it.
I fixed it and told them what I found out.
If they didn't have the Manual I wouldn't had been able to help them with
their Radio.
I just started from Step 1 and when I got to see how the Terminal Strip was mounted and wired in the illustration was different from what I saw in the chassis I fixed it. Yeah, Me, Ed fixed it.

SWL's have to look at the Dial on the Radio to see where to
remember to turn it to the next time they want to listen to a
Station they previously found when listening to their radio.

Yup! Probably a lot easier with digital tuners, but back then (for me early 70's) analog tuning and display.

The only Ham Rig I used that had a Digital Display had trouble staying
on Frequency.
It would reset to the bottom of the band whenever it wanted to, so I Emailed the manufacturer and was told to send it to a authorized repair center.
It couldn't be fixed so I told the repairman to keep it instead of mailing
it back to me.
He said it would go in the Junque Pile.

As a Ham My radio also has a Meter that I can watch the needle
wiggle as I listen.

Ooo! Advanced equipment! <g> I remember S-meters, etc., but not on my receiver. Actually I do like S-meters on my various receivers, just
don't always have that option.

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You <G R I N>.

... I'm in a class by myself. Everyone else graduated.

Good Tagline! Thanks!


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08-22-17 18:54 Barry Martin wrote to All about Permanently Erase Files
Howdy! Again Barry,

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Hi Folks!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First section on HDDs and SSDs -- if/when I need will probably use SpinRight. Second section was of interest: how to erase data off cell phones.
Here have two old cell phones; would like to give them to local shelter
or maybe the Police to give to someone for just the 911 function.
Noble thought, just I don't want to give the stored names and phone numbers to a complete stranger. The second half of the article
addresses the how-to:

http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing

ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT

EwMjU3MDU4NwS2

Now for the get-around-to!

I found the ROUNDTUIT and read the Popular Science article. Thanks!

I knew that ERASER was available for that job.
I didn't see any mention of DBAN, but I learned that RECUVA also can
'obscure'.

My method is to click on the filename in XP's Windows Explorer and then
press the Shift KEY and the Delete KEY to bypass the Trashbin.

Yes, I know the files information is still on my HDD but I'm not too
much worried if someone other than me wanted to recover the file(s).

I am a retired Civil Service employee, I'm not going to do something
that would mess up my Pension or the portion of the annuity my wife
would receive.

I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.

I stayed around the Popular Science site and read a few more articles
before writing this Reply.

I subscribed to Popular Science in the Mid-1970's, but that was the time
before I got a Commodore 64 in 1984.

Thanks Again!


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Hi Ed!

Thanks for the link, I will find a ROUNDTUIT and grab it soon.

Friend of mine in Michigan has warned me they're on back order from
China, so yours may be delayed also.

Mine is here in the house somewhere, sneaky thing those
ROUNDTUITS are.

I've been trying to clean up up here in the Computer Room: "organized mess" probably best describes it. I know where (most of) the Stuff is, though have had that pleasant rediscovery as I go through.

It's O.K. when You do it, when the wife does it that's a
different thing.

That's about right! A while back did a quickie put away - remembered
where the items were originally but took a while to find them in their
new 'neat' place.

Have been going through stuff (when the Round ToIts allow!) and putting
in Banker's Boxes so of a consistent size for storage and easier to stack
on shelves. Some Bankers Boxes have boxes inside: don't need an entire
box for USB cables, plus now storing them by USB 2 and USB 3 (separate).

And it's not like the place is a hoarder's paradise, just needs a bit of attention. Plus I'd rather bang on the keyboard or do something outside
in the yard. :)

... Is it true that you lose brain cells every time you watch the
radio?

I'm writing mainly about the Tagline in the message.
Amateur Radio Operators (HAMS) must be some of the least
brilliant people in the world if the Tagline is true.

:) I don't know: the main gentleman who taught me the basics of electronics was a Ham and an Electronics Engineer and he seemed quite bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

Who made the amplifier? Bogen? Proably not Bogen, the one I saw
in the mid-1950's at a friends home was the first Hi-Fi
(Monaural) I ever knew of and it was a GREAT Unit.

IIRC Lafayette Radio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_Radio_Electronics. Won't
guarantee that's the correct manufacturer as has been several decades
since the unit finally failed at my parents' in NH and I had been living
out here in IA for around ten years.

I had a problem with my Heath AA-32 Stereo Amplifier making noise
on one side and went to a Clinic a Electronics Store held and was
told there was a loose wire between the Output Tube and the
Speaker Terminal Board. I went home and opened the case and
soldered the loose wire back and the Amp was quite on both sides
after that job.

Good! I had built for myself a Heathkit GR-3000 (much earlier while
still living in NH had built for my parents a GR-300) television. The channel, time, etc., display would sometimes give the wrong letter. A
little notetaking as to which letter was improperly being displayed and converting to binary led to determine was probably a certain data line
(3rd or 4th LSB) that was the problem. Only problem was I couldn't
figure out which was LSB or MSB from the schematic so instead of only
having to resolder two pads had to solder four. (Poor baby!! <g>)
Solved the problem! :)

I was a SWL (Shortwave Listener) before I took the Novice Amateur
Radio Test.

Good place to start: listening and then participating. I built (from a kit) a short wave receiver -- one of the bands never did work. Had it checked b y at least one of the gentlemen who taught me (was decades
ago) but never did find the error. Plenty to listen to even with the
one band not available.

At Church a Man and his Son built a Knight-Kit SW Receiver but
couldn't hear any stations on it except when they touched a part
inside the chassis.
They let me take their Radio with the Assembly Manual home to
look at it. The problem was a 2 Terminal Terminal Strip they put
in turned the opposite way it should had been.

The Isolated Terminal Had One Wire soldered to it and the
Grounded Terminal Had Two Wires on it.
I fixed it and told them what I found out.
If they didn't have the Manual I wouldn't had been able to help
them with their Radio.
I just started from Step 1 and when I got to see how the Terminal
Strip was mounted and wired in the illustration was different
from what I saw in the chassis I fixed it. Yeah, Me, Ed fixed it.

Ta-daaa! Something easy enough to overlook.

The "works when touched" reminded me of a small AM-FM receiver someone
gave me because it started working only part of the time. No schematic
to work from; didn't see any bad solder joints, wasn't about to solder
every one! Somehow found out if put a wire to ground it would work
properly so just soldered in a jumper and gave back: "naaa, you can keep
it: I got a new one". So 'inheireted' a small portable radio, which
OTTOMH I have no idea what happened to it. Might be downstairs some
place (another cleanup project!!).

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You
<G R I N>.

That's where I dive into the box (see semi-joke explanation in a reply to Nancy) and get a little picky: Dad was a decent speller, my Mother isn't
but then English is not her native language. I sort of went the
opposite direction and went for the correct spellings, though
apparenty skipped back a generation to Dad's English and Scottish
parents. Now as for the typos in my e-mails, I'll blame part of that on
a slow response of the text editor (I'll get ahead a few characters at
times) and an odd quirk of typing one letter when meaning another: I'll
type 'c' for 's' and vice versa semi-consistently but not due to not
knowing how to spell the word.

... I'm in a class by myself. Everyone else graduated.

Good Tagline! Thanks!

'Welcome! ...Gee just think: when I do graduate I'll be Valedictorian!!


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Hi Ed!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First section on HDDs and SSDs -- if/when I need will probably use SpinRight. Second section was of interest: how to erase data off cell phones.
Here have two old cell phones; would like to give them to local shelter
or maybe the Police to give to someone for just the 911 function.
Noble thought, just I don't want to give the stored names and phone numbers to a complete stranger. The second half of the article
addresses the how-to: http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT EwMjU3MDU4NwS2
Now for the get-around-to!

I found the ROUNDTUIT and read the Popular Science article.
Thanks!

Glad to be of assistance!

I knew that ERASER was available for that job.
I didn't see any mention of DBAN, but I learned that RECUVA also
can 'obscure'.

I'll add those to the original notes.

My method is to click on the filename in XP's Windows Explorer
and then press the Shift KEY and the Delete KEY to bypass the
Trashbin.

Don't know if there is an equivalent shortcut for Linux; seems like the
file would still be recoverable as all <delete> does is mark the sectors
the file occupies as a available.

Yes, I know the files information is still on my HDD but I'm not
too much worried if someone other than me wanted to recover the
file(s).

Oh - I keep forgetting I'm supposed to read ahead! I have some semi- sensitive information on my HDDs which would be a major bother for me to correct/undo if recovered and used by the wrong type of person.

I am a retired Civil Service employee, I'm not going to do
something that would mess up my Pension or the portion of the
annuity my wife would receive.

No, that would be stupid! ...Though I worked retail for years and years
and some of the things customers do...... L.P. caught a wanted criminal
with some pretty hefty charges just because he shoplifted a $9.99
t-shirt!

I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.

<chuckle>

I stayed around the Popular Science site and read a few more
articles before writing this Reply.

What?! You get side-tracked too!!

I subscribed to Popular Science in the Mid-1970's, but that was
the time before I got a Commodore 64 in 1984.

When I was living out East a friend of the family subscribed and usually
gave the issue to me after he was done. Out here I subscribed to
Popular Electronics for a number of years, with lots of intentions to
build projects when I had more money and time.


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08-30-17 15:24 Barry Martin wrote to Ed Vance about Permanently Erase Files Howdy! Barry,

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Hi Ed!

-snip-

I've been trying to clean up up here in the Computer Room: "organized mess" probably best describes it. I know where (most of) the Stuff is, though have had that pleasant rediscovery as I go through.

It's O.K. when You do it, when the wife does it that's a
different thing.

That's about right! A while back did a quickie put away - remembered
where the items were originally but took a while to find them in their
new 'neat' place.

Have been going through stuff (when the Round ToIts allow!) and putting
in Banker's Boxes so of a consistent size for storage and easier to
stack on shelves. Some Bankers Boxes have boxes inside: don't need an entire box for USB cables, plus now storing them by USB 2 and USB 3 (separate).

Organizing will help You find what You want to find.
Make a file on the pc of what is in the boxes might help too.
That is banging on the Keyboard isn't it?

I was wondering if Nancy also read this conference (echo)?
I'm sure if She read my comment to You it would start Her thinking of
how to write to Me about it.

And it's not like the place is a hoarder's paradise, just needs a bit
of attention. Plus I'd rather bang on the keyboard or do something outside in the yard. :)

If I visited Your place I probably would drool from seeing the things
You have there.

-snip-

bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

Who made the amplifier? Bogen? Proably not Bogen, the one I saw
in the mid-1950's at a friends home was the first Hi-Fi
(Monaural) I ever knew of and it was a GREAT Unit.

IIRC Lafayette Radio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_Radio_Electronics. Won't guarantee that's the correct manufacturer as has been several decades since the unit finally failed at my parents' in NH and I had been
living out here in IA for around ten years.

I have a 6 1/2" Coaxial Speaker I ordered from them.

I had a problem with my Heath AA-32 Stereo Amplifier making noise
on one side and went to a Clinic a Electronics Store held and was
told there was a loose wire between the Output Tube and the
Speaker Terminal Board. I went home and opened the case and
soldered the loose wire back and the Amp was quite on both sides
after that job.

Good! I had built for myself a Heathkit GR-3000 (much earlier while
still living in NH had built for my parents a GR-300) television. The channel, time, etc., display would sometimes give the wrong letter. A little notetaking as to which letter was improperly being displayed and converting to binary led to determine was probably a certain data line (3rd or 4th LSB) that was the problem. Only problem was I couldn't
figure out which was LSB or MSB from the schematic so instead of only having to resolder two pads had to solder four. (Poor baby!! <g>)
Solved the problem! :)

Are both the GR-3000 and GR-300 Television Sets?

A neighbor built a Heathkit TV Set and I loaned my Heath VTVM and
the High Voltage Probe for it to Him so He could adjust the High Voltage Circuit.
The TV Kit was part of a Heathkit Eductional Training Program He was
taking in the mid-1970's.
Back then Heath-Kit had a Store on the outskirts of Louisville, Kentucky
and My Neighbor took his TV Set there for them to check it out.

The Technician told Him that the High Voltage was adjusted correctly.

My neighbor had one problem that puzzled both Him and the Heath Technician.
One of the Sixteen Pre-Set Channel positions would not work.
Since I know enuf about Electronics to be considered DANGEROUS, I looked
at the PC Board and found a broken connection around where the Variable Resistor for that Channel was located and walked Home to get a piece of
Bishop Graphics copper strip, after I soldered it on the part all
16 Channels behaved.

I was a SWL (Shortwave Listener) before I took the Novice Amateur
Radio Test.

Good place to start: listening and then participating. I built (from a kit) a short wave receiver -- one of the bands never did work. Had it checked b y at least one of the gentlemen who taught me (was decades
ago) but never did find the error. Plenty to listen to even with the
one band not available.

-snip-

I just started from Step 1 and when I got to see how the Terminal
Strip was mounted and wired in the illustration was different
from what I saw in the chassis I fixed it. Yeah, Me, Ed fixed it.

Ta-daaa! Something easy enough to overlook.

The "works when touched" reminded me of a small AM-FM receiver someone gave me because it started working only part of the time. No schematic
to work from; didn't see any bad solder joints, wasn't about to solder every one! Somehow found out if put a wire to ground it would work properly so just soldered in a jumper and gave back: "naaa, you can
keep it: I got a new one". So 'inheireted' a small portable radio,
which OTTOMH I have no idea what happened to it. Might be downstairs
some place (another cleanup project!!).

Only The Shadow Knows.

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You
<G R I N>.

That's where I dive into the box (see semi-joke explanation in a reply
to Nancy) and get a little picky: Dad was a decent speller, my Mother isn't but then English is not her native language. I sort of went the opposite direction and went for the correct spellings, though
apparenty skipped back a generation to Dad's English and Scottish
parents. Now as for the typos in my e-mails, I'll blame part of that
on a slow response of the text editor (I'll get ahead a few characters
at times) and an odd quirk of typing one letter when meaning another:
I'll type 'c' for 's' and vice versa semi-consistently but not due to
not knowing how to spell the word.

Multi-Mail doesn't have a Spell Checker, like You I do the best I can before
I send the .REP file.

... I'm in a class by myself. Everyone else graduated.

Good Tagline! Thanks!

'Welcome! ...Gee just think: when I do graduate I'll be
Valedictorian!!

I can't wait to hear that You Gradated.

In another Echo Network (FSX) I saw someone write about being in NH.
Do You read messages in that Network?

Would You want me to search for the message and Forward it to You here?


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08-30-17 15:24 Barry Martin wrote to Ed Vance about Permanently Erase Files Howdy! Barry,

@MSGID: <59A82521.9.ilelectr@capitolcityonline.net>

Hi Ed!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First

-snip-

http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT EwMjU3MDU4NwS2
Now for the get-around-to!

I found the ROUNDTUIT and read the Popular Science article.
Thanks!

Glad to be of assistance!

I've learn many things from many people.
It was because I saw Nancy writing to You in the IL_ChitChat echo conference that I started writing to You there.

Mike Powell, This BBS's SysOp has messages from many BBS Networks that I
can LURK at.
Iirc, My first message in there was a 'crack' at something Nancy wrote,
but I might be wrong. And don't say "Nah!" in Your Reply, I'm here, I Know.

I knew that ERASER was available for that job.
I didn't see any mention of DBAN, but I learned that RECUVA also
can 'obscure'.

I'll add those to the original notes.

My method is to click on the filename in XP's Windows Explorer
and then press the Shift KEY and the Delete KEY to bypass the
Trashbin.

Don't know if there is an equivalent shortcut for Linux; seems like the file would still be recoverable as all <delete> does is mark the
sectors the file occupies as a available.

I will ask Paul Quinn in the WIN95 echo, He uses Linux, I've only dabbled
with Ubuntu and looked at Mint.

Yes, I know the files information is still on my HDD but I'm not
too much worried if someone other than me wanted to recover the
file(s).

Oh - I keep forgetting I'm supposed to read ahead! I have some semi- sensitive information on my HDDs which would be a major bother for me
to correct/undo if recovered and used by the wrong type of person.

Some things I keep on a Floppy Disk, even thought probably traces of it
are still somewhere on this XP pc.
When I want to access those files I use the USB Floppy Drive I bought
at Radio Shack a few days after I bought this XP box.

I am a retired Civil Service employee, I'm not going to do
something that would mess up my Pension or the portion of the
annuity my wife would receive.

No, that would be stupid! ...Though I worked retail for years and
years and some of the things customers do...... L.P. caught a wanted criminal with some pretty hefty charges just because he shoplifted a
$9.99 t-shirt!

Habits are habits, aren't they? Good that L.P. was watching when He did it.

I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.

<chuckle>

It's the TRUTH!

The Phrase I used comes from a story someone told me at work one day.

A tire blew out on a road alongside a Insane Asylum.
The driver saw a man looking at him from behind the fence and was afraid
to get out of the car.
After sitting in the car for a long time the man in the car thought
"if that guy tried to climb the fence I would still have time to
jump back in the car, so I'll get out and change my tire.
The man inside the fence watched him jack the car up and take the flat
tire off and put the spare tire on the hub.
Then the driver looked around for the lug nuts but couldn't find them
anywhere around.
He thought: what am I going to do now?, there isn't anyone to ask for
help but that crazy guy behind the fence, but I will go ahead and ask
him.
The driver walked towards the fence and asked - what would you do if
you had a flat tire and couldn't find the lug nuts to put the spare on?
The man behind the fence told him "I would go and take one lug nut off
of the other three wheels and use them until you can get somewhere to
buy some lug nuts.
The driver said to the man behind the fence - I thought all of the people
in there were crazy.
The guy inside the fence told him - "Yes we are, but we're not stupid.".

I stayed around the Popular Science site and read a few more
articles before writing this Reply.

What?! You get side-tracked too!!

Lurkers are lurkers, You know.

I subscribed to Popular Science in the Mid-1970's, but that was
the time before I got a Commodore 64 in 1984.

When I was living out East a friend of the family subscribed and
usually gave the issue to me after he was done. Out here I subscribed
to Popular Electronics for a number of years, with lots of intentions
to build projects when I had more money and time.

I learned a lot from reading Pop'Tronics and Radio-Electronics articles.
My first issues of Pop'Tronics were the small sized books.

Iirc it was Popular Science who first printed their magazines in the
larger size, and all of the other publishers started printing the larger magazines. Am I close to being right?

I was in Elementry School when my Teacher took the class on a Field Trip
to the Library.
The Librarian(?) said the boys in the group might like looking at the
Popular Mechanics or Mechanics Illustrated magazines.
I don't think Popular Science was published in the 1950's when I was at
the Library.

I subscribe to Mechanics Illustrated magazine when I was in the 5th Grade.
One article I still remember was about the General Electric Company had
created a very tiny Drill Bit and sent one of them to Switzerland for the
Swiss to write back their praises for the newly created Precision Drill
Bit.

The Swiss sent the Drill Bit back to GE with a hole drilled through it.

Hmmm, I got long winded, didn't I? Nuff Said.

P.S. The message I wrote last night had a TYPO, I missed the letter U
in Graduate, gradate is a real word but quite different, isn't it?

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Hi Ed!

Have been going through stuff (when the Round ToIts allow!) and putting
in Banker's Boxes so of a consistent size for storage and easier to
stack on shelves. Some Bankers Boxes have boxes inside: don't need an entire box for USB cables, plus now storing them by USB 2 and USB 3 (separate).

Organizing will help You find what You want to find.
Make a file on the pc of what is in the boxes might help too.
That is banging on the Keyboard isn't it?

<chuckle> Yes it is!! I've sort of tried the list thing -- doesn't
quite work out: take a part or two out to fix/upgrade something with the intention of updating the list later -- another But First wanders in and side-tracks.

Cleaning up also means re-organizing, and part of the how it's organized depends on how much of a category I have. Old example: used to have two telephone lines here, one voice and one data. (Told you it was an old example!!) The Computer Room had both lines, so needed telephone line
cord with four wires; the rest of the house only had the voice line so
that only needed two wires. Had a bunch of line cords and of course
whenever I needed 4-line cord would be sorting through all the cords
coming up with 2-line ones. Finally sorted them -- just in large
Ziplock baggies, but the were now separated. (The baggies were stored
in a Bankers Box with other telephone parts.)

I was wondering if Nancy also read this conference (echo)?
I'm sure if She read my comment to You it would start Her
thinking of how to write to Me about it.

I haven't seen her over here.

And it's not like the place is a hoarder's paradise, just needs a bit
of attention. Plus I'd rather bang on the keyboard or do something outside in the yard. :)

If I visited Your place I probably would drool from seeing the
things You have there.

Just might! You might also end up going home with a few older computers
and/or parts!

-snip-

bright to me! Another gentleman who was friend of my parents also 'discovered' the filament circuit for Dad's amplifer wasn't designed correctly, which is why it was always blowing two tubes. He sort of verified my point of view that just because someone sells or does something doens't necessarily mean it's right. (That's not being
phrased quite correctly.) Sort of verified my thoughts shortcuts are taken and if I see something that doesn't seem quite right fix it.
...Like maybe a cabinet should be supported better.

Who made the amplifier? Bogen? Proably not Bogen, the one I saw
in the mid-1950's at a friends home was the first Hi-Fi
(Monaural) I ever knew of and it was a GREAT Unit.

IIRC Lafayette Radio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_Radio_Electronics. Won't guarantee that's the correct manufacturer as has been several decades since the unit finally failed at my parents' in NH and I had been
living out here in IA for around ten years.

I have a 6 1/2" Coaxial Speaker I ordered from them.

Just one? Wonder if it could be made into a subwoofer for a TV?

I had a problem with my Heath AA-32 Stereo Amplifier making noise
on one side and went to a Clinic a Electronics Store held and was
told there was a loose wire between the Output Tube and the
Speaker Terminal Board. I went home and opened the case and
soldered the loose wire back and the Amp was quite on both sides
after that job.

Good! I had built for myself a Heathkit GR-3000 (much earlier while
still living in NH had built for my parents a GR-300) television. The channel, time, etc., display would sometimes give the wrong letter. A little notetaking as to which letter was improperly being displayed and converting to binary led to determine was probably a certain data line (3rd or 4th LSB) that was the problem. Only problem was I couldn't
figure out which was LSB or MSB from the schematic so instead of only having to resolder two pads had to solder four. (Poor baby!! <g>)
Solved the problem! :)

Are both the GR-3000 and GR-300 Television Sets?

Yes, the GR-300 about a decade earlier than the GR-3000. I think both
were 25". GR-300 had some small roughly 3x5" 'cards' which plugged in, probably to the rear panel and the power supply was on the right side
panel. Not sure about the cards but definitely recall the power supply
board because it was pre-built and I thought that was a let-down. Plus
the foil side of the power supply would arc to the metal chassis
(cabinet around the tube) and sometimes caused a shut-down. I remember trimming some off the excess lead length from the power supply board -- lessened the arcing but but still did, just not as often. Did that a
few times. Finally Dad came up with an idea: glue a rubber jar opener
to the chassis. No more arcing!

A neighbor built a Heathkit TV Set and I loaned my Heath VTVM and
the High Voltage Probe for it to Him so He could adjust the High
Voltage Circuit.
The TV Kit was part of a Heathkit Eductional Training Program He
was taking in the mid-1970's.
Back then Heath-Kit had a Store on the outskirts of Louisville,
Kentucky and My Neighbor took his TV Set there for them to check
it out.

The Technician told Him that the High Voltage was adjusted
correctly.

My neighbor had one problem that puzzled both Him and the Heath Technician. One of the Sixteen Pre-Set Channel positions would
not work. Since I know enuf about Electronics to be considered
DANGEROUS, I looked at the PC Board and found a broken connection
around where the Variable Resistor for that Channel was located
and walked Home to get a piece of Bishop Graphics copper strip,
after I soldered it on the part all 16 Channels behaved.

Good Man!!

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You
<G R I N>.

That's where I dive into the box (see semi-joke explanation in a reply
to Nancy) and get a little picky: Dad was a decent speller, my Mother isn't but then English is not her native language. I sort of went the opposite direction and went for the correct spellings, though
apparenty skipped back a generation to Dad's English and Scottish
parents. Now as for the typos in my e-mails, I'll blame part of that
on a slow response of the text editor (I'll get ahead a few characters
at times) and an odd quirk of typing one letter when meaning another:
I'll type 'c' for 's' and vice versa semi-consistently but not due to
not knowing how to spell the word.

Multi-Mail doesn't have a Spell Checker, like You I do the best I
can before I send the .REP file.

OK - I couldn't remember it's been so long since I changed anything.
Some times it's just I don't like how Product A works or Product B does
the same thing but in a way I like better so switch. Here using SEdit
for the editor which has a decent dictionary .

... I'm in a class by myself. Everyone else graduated.

Good Tagline! Thanks!

'Welcome! ...Gee just think: when I do graduate I'll be
Valedictorian!!

I can't wait to hear that You Gradated.

At this rate may be a while!

In another Echo Network (FSX) I saw someone write about being in
NH. Do You read messages in that Network?

Nope; doens't sound familiar.

Would You want me to search for the message and Forward it to You
here?

If you want to. :) I moved out here in 1975 and have been back for
short visits.

... Geriatric Games: Simon says something incoherent.

What was that? <g>



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Hi Ed!

Friend from Nevada sent this link on how to permanently files. First

-snip-

http://www.popsci.com/permanently-delete-files?CMPID=ene082217&spMailing ID=30279567&spUserID=NTIzMjcwMTk4MjYwS0&spJobID=1102570587&spReportId=MT EwMjU3MDU4NwS2
Now for the get-around-to!

I found the ROUNDTUIT and read the Popular Science article.
Thanks!

Glad to be of assistance!

I've learn many things from many people.
It was because I saw Nancy writing to You in the IL_ChitChat echo conference that I started writing to You there.

The good news is I also have learned a lot, some times minor trivia,
some times some reather important items. Over the years have kept a lot
of messages, or portions of messages, with "information of interest". Probably most is now outdated, but don't have the (and don't want to)
take the time to go through and remove -- might gain a whole 10 GB. For
the cost of storage not worth it.

Mike Powell, This BBS's SysOp has messages from many BBS Networks
that I can LURK at.
Iirc, My first message in there was a 'crack' at something Nancy
wrote, but I might be wrong. And don't say "Nah!" in Your Reply,
I'm here, I Know.

We drew you out of your lurk mode -- isn't it more fun out here?!

I knew that ERASER was available for that job.
I didn't see any mention of DBAN, but I learned that RECUVA also
can 'obscure'.

I'll add those to the original notes.

My method is to click on the filename in XP's Windows Explorer
and then press the Shift KEY and the Delete KEY to bypass the
Trashbin.

Don't know if there is an equivalent shortcut for Linux; seems like the file would still be recoverable as all <delete> does is mark the
sectors the file occupies as a available.

I will ask Paul Quinn in the WIN95 echo, He uses Linux, I've only
dabbled with Ubuntu and looked at Mint.

OK, thanks.

Yes, I know the files information is still on my HDD but I'm not
too much worried if someone other than me wanted to recover the
file(s).

Oh - I keep forgetting I'm supposed to read ahead! I have some semi- sensitive information on my HDDs which would be a major bother for me
to correct/undo if recovered and used by the wrong type of person.

Some things I keep on a Floppy Disk, even thought probably traces
of it are still somewhere on this XP pc.
When I want to access those files I use the USB Floppy Drive I
bought at Radio Shack a few days after I bought this XP box.

Good Grief! I haven't used floppies in ages! Probably relatively safe
as almost no one has a FDD to read one!

I am a retired Civil Service employee, I'm not going to do
something that would mess up my Pension or the portion of the
annuity my wife would receive.

No, that would be stupid! ...Though I worked retail for years and
years and some of the things customers do...... L.P. caught a wanted criminal with some pretty hefty charges just because he shoplifted a
$9.99 t-shirt!

Habits are habits, aren't they? Good that L.P. was watching when
He did it.

The Police thought so!

I may be dumb but I'm not stupid.

<chuckle>

It's the TRUTH!

The Phrase I used comes from a story someone told me at work one
day.

A tire blew out on a road alongside a Insane Asylum.
The driver saw a man looking at him from behind the fence and was
afraid to get out of the car.
After sitting in the car for a long time the man in the car
thought "if that guy tried to climb the fence I would still have
time to jump back in the car, so I'll get out and change my tire.
The man inside the fence watched him jack the car up and take the
flat tire off and put the spare tire on the hub.
Then the driver looked around for the lug nuts but couldn't find
them anywhere around.
He thought: what am I going to do now?, there isn't anyone to ask
for help but that crazy guy behind the fence, but I will go ahead
and ask him.
The driver walked towards the fence and asked - what would you do
if you had a flat tire and couldn't find the lug nuts to put the
spare on? The man behind the fence told him "I would go and take
one lug nut off of the other three wheels and use them until you
can get somewhere to buy some lug nuts.
The driver said to the man behind the fence - I thought all of
the people in there were crazy.
The guy inside the fence told him - "Yes we are, but we're not
stupid.".

<Chuckle> Actually is another example of Outside The Box Thinking.
Probably not safe to be rolling down the highway at 60 MPH with one
lugnut missing from each tire but with caution will get to one's
destination.

I stayed around the Popular Science site and read a few more
articles before writing this Reply.

What?! You get side-tracked too!!

Lurkers are lurkers, You know.

I would have though more of a thirst for knowledge.

I subscribed to Popular Science in the Mid-1970's, but that was
the time before I got a Commodore 64 in 1984.

When I was living out East a friend of the family subscribed and
usually gave the issue to me after he was done. Out here I subscribed
to Popular Electronics for a number of years, with lots of intentions
to build projects when I had more money and time.

I learned a lot from reading Pop'Tronics and Radio-Electronics
articles. My first issues of Pop'Tronics were the small sized
books.
Iirc it was Popular Science who first printed their magazines in
the larger size, and all of the other publishers started printing
the larger magazines. Am I close to being right?

That I don't recall, The only magazine I'm remembering being small was Reader's Digest. Most magazines, including Popular Science and Radio- Electronics were the 'usual' size, and some magazines like Life were the
'huge' size.

I was in Elementry School when my Teacher took the class on a
Field Trip to the Library.
The Librarian(?) said the boys in the group might like looking at
the Popular Mechanics or Mechanics Illustrated magazines.
I don't think Popular Science was published in the 1950's when I
was at the Library.

Ah! That might be why I don't recall the smaller versions of the
magazines: I wasn't born until the 1950's.

I subscribe to Mechanics Illustrated magazine when I was in the
5th Grade. One article I still remember was about the General
Electric Company had created a very tiny Drill Bit and sent one
of them to Switzerland for the Swiss to write back their praises
for the newly created Precision Drill Bit.

The Swiss sent the Drill Bit back to GE with a hole drilled
through it.

Ha-ha!!

Hmmm, I got long winded, didn't I? Nuff Said.

You may have learned that habit from me!

P.S. The message I wrote last night had a TYPO, I missed the
letter U in Graduate, gradate is a real word but quite different,
isn't it?

Well, the graduate does gradate his or her knowledge level!



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09-01-17 15:03 Barry Martin wrote to Ed Vance about Permanently Erase Files Howdy! Barry,

@MSGID: <59AAC826.13.ilelectr@capitolcityonline.net>

Hi Ed!

Have been going through stuff (when the Round ToIts allow!) and putting
in Banker's Boxes so of a consistent size for storage and easier to

-snip-

And it's not like the place is a hoarder's paradise, just needs a bit
of attention. Plus I'd rather bang on the keyboard or do something outside in the yard. :)

If I visited Your place I probably would drool from seeing the
things You have there.

Just might! You might also end up going home with a few older
computers and/or parts!

Was that an invite? Just kidding. I couldn't resist saying that.

-snip-
I have a 6 1/2" Coaxial Speaker I ordered from them.

Just one? Wonder if it could be made into a subwoofer for a TV?

No, I bought two of them for myself, but one of them is connected to my
Ham Radio Transceiver (Transmitter & Receiver in one case).
The other one isn't used anymore.

Actually I bought three of those speakers.

I was trying to learn why a persons 1/4" Reel to Reel Monaural Tape Recorder wouldn't Record when he pressed the Record Button, so he let me look at it.
The Tape Deck portion was connected to the Electronics in the cabinet by
a connector with large pins, and for me to see underneath the tape deck
I had to disconnect that plug.

I connected the plug to the socket many time, turned it on, saw it still
didn't record so I unconnect the plug and look around some more and
reconnect it again, and again, and again.........

One time I inserted the plug to the socket and was off one position and
when I plugged the A.C. Plug in the wall I heard BRRRRRUPPP! and burned out
the 6 1/2" Speaker in the cabinet.

Looking through Lafayette's Radio Catalog I noticed for a few dollars more
I could put a Speaker that also had a Tweeter in his Tape Recorder, and
it might give him better sound.

After I put the Coaxial Speaker in the unit, I worked on it some more and
found his problem was some grease was on the open contacts that the Record Button moved when it was pressed.

That job cost me the price of a speaker.
I think the Brand Name of the tape recorder was REGAL or something like that.
I remember the first letter was "R" and it looked like a AKAI Stereo
Tape Recorder that were being sold at the stores in Japan when I was in
the Navy in the early 1960's.

I couldn't afford to buy an AKAI but did buy a Toshiba Monaural R-2-R
Tape Recorder

I liked the size and price of the speaker I put in his recorder and how it sounded, so one day I saw a audio amplifier placed inside a ice cube sized piece of plastic with six bare wires sticking out of it at a Electronics
Parts Store, so I bought 2 of them and ordered two speakers from Lafayette
to make a Stereo Amp to use with my Lesa Vox Turntable.
I'm telling my age ain't I?

When I built the Heathkit AA-32 I used those speakers with it.
I can't remember if I still have the 2 ice cube amps any more........
-snip-

Are both the GR-3000 and GR-300 Television Sets?

Yes, the GR-300 about a decade earlier than the GR-3000. I think both were 25". GR-300 had some small roughly 3x5" 'cards' which plugged in, probably to the rear panel and the power supply was on the right side panel. Not sure about the cards but definitely recall the power supply board because it was pre-built and I thought that was a let-down. Plus the foil side of the power supply would arc to the metal chassis
(cabinet around the tube) and sometimes caused a shut-down. I remember trimming some off the excess lead length from the power supply board -- lessened the arcing but but still did, just not as often. Did that a
few times. Finally Dad came up with an idea: glue a rubber jar opener
to the chassis. No more arcing!

Good for You!!!!!!!!

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You
<G R I N>.

That's where I dive into the box (see semi-joke explanation in a reply
to Nancy) and get a little picky: Dad was a decent speller, my Mother isn't but then English is not her native language. I sort of went the opposite direction and went for the correct spellings, though
apparenty skipped back a generation to Dad's English and Scottish
parents. Now as for the typos in my e-mails, I'll blame part of that
on a slow response of the text editor (I'll get ahead a few characters
at times) and an odd quirk of typing one letter when meaning another:
I'll type 'c' for 's' and vice versa semi-consistently but not due to
not knowing how to spell the word.

Multi-Mail doesn't have a Spell Checker, like You I do the best I
can before I send the .REP file.

OK - I couldn't remember it's been so long since I changed anything.
Some times it's just I don't like how Product A works or Product B does the same thing but in a way I like better so switch. Here using SEdit
for the editor which has a decent dictionary .

Since I use Multi-Mail DOS, when I want to type a word in a BBS Message
and really want to be sure it is spelled correctly I will save the text I
have written already and then use ALT - Enter to reduce the size of the
window Multi-Mail is in and then point the mouse pointer at the word,
Press the Ctrl Key and press the right mouse button to Open WordWeb.

I use the Free version of WordWeb, a Dictionary-Thesaurus that I downloaded from the URL: wordweb.info .

-snip-

In another Echo Network (FSX) I saw someone write about being in
NH. Do You read messages in that Network?

Nope; doens't sound familiar.

Would You want me to search for the message and Forward it to You
here?

If you want to. :) I moved out here in 1975 and have been back for
short visits.

I already Forwarded the message to You either here or in IL_CHITCHAT,
the FOG has rolled in since I Forwarded it.

... Geriatric Games: Simon says something incoherent.

What was that? <g>

Me Too!

BTW, I've seen the ANSI posts You've made in the other echo.
Lurkers are Lurkers, You know............

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Hi Ed!

Have been going through stuff (when the Round ToIts allow!) and putting
in Banker's Boxes so of a consistent size for storage and easier to

-snip-

And it's not like the place is a hoarder's paradise, just needs a bit
of attention. Plus I'd rather bang on the keyboard or do something outside in the yard. :)

If I visited Your place I probably would drool from seeing the
things You have there.

Just might! You might also end up going home with a few older
computers and/or parts!

Was that an invite? Just kidding. I couldn't resist saying
that.

Free parts are good parts, though the ones I'm interested in getting rid
of are old and probably not worth the trip (even if were for real). LIS
to Nancy some time ago I should see if a local school or agency is
interested, otherwise set out for the Electronics Recycling.

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I have a 6 1/2" Coaxial Speaker I ordered from them.

Just one? Wonder if it could be made into a subwoofer for a TV?

No, I bought two of them for myself, but one of them is connected
to my Ham Radio Transceiver (Transmitter & Receiver in one case).
The other one isn't used anymore.

Ah, OK. If mono output only need one, though sometimes nice to have a
stereo effect. Or 'placement'. My Heathkit GR-3000 TV had two speakers although a monoaural output: the speakers were placed on either side of
the CRT and gave the illusion the sound was coming from the picture
rather than off to one side. Did build a stereo extractor but never
figuired out where to tap to obtain the stereo signal.

Actually I bought three of those speakers.

Now we're back to the 'why?' question!
(I ses that's another of my should read ahead things.)

I was trying to learn why a persons 1/4" Reel to Reel Monaural
Tape Recorder wouldn't Record when he pressed the Record Button,
so he let me look at it. The Tape Deck portion was connected to
the Electronics in the cabinet by a connector with large pins,
and for me to see underneath the tape deck I had to disconnect
that plug.

I connected the plug to the socket many time, turned it on, saw
it still didn't record so I unconnect the plug and look around
some more and reconnect it again, and again, and again.........

One time I inserted the plug to the socket and was off one
position and when I plugged the A.C. Plug in the wall I heard
BRRRRRUPPP! and burned out the 6 1/2" Speaker in the cabinet.

Looking through Lafayette's Radio Catalog I noticed for a few
dollars more I could put a Speaker that also had a Tweeter in his
Tape Recorder, and it might give him better sound.

After I put the Coaxial Speaker in the unit, I worked on it some
more and found his problem was some grease was on the open
contacts that the Record Button moved when it was pressed.

That job cost me the price of a speaker.
I think the Brand Name of the tape recorder was REGAL or
something like that. I remember the first letter was "R" and it
looked like a AKAI Stereo Tape Recorder that were being sold at
the stores in Japan when I was in the Navy in the early 1960's.

Too bad you couldn't use that 'spare' speaker you originally had
purchased with the one in your transceiver.

Upgrading his speaker since it was damaged anyway was a good idea: had
to be replaced so may as well get something worthwhile.

I couldn't afford to buy an AKAI but did buy a Toshiba Monaural
R-2-R Tape Recorder

I liked the size and price of the speaker I put in his recorder
and how it sounded, so one day I saw a audio amplifier placed
inside a ice cube sized piece of plastic with six bare wires
sticking out of it at a Electronics Parts Store, so I bought 2 of
them and ordered two speakers from Lafayette to make a Stereo Amp
to use with my Lesa Vox Turntable. I'm telling my age ain't I?

Just a bit! (Where's that tagline about age doesn't matter unless
you're a cheese?)

When I built the Heathkit AA-32 I used those speakers with it.
I can't remember if I still have the 2 ice cube amps any
more........ -snip-
Are both the GR-3000 and GR-300 Television Sets?

Yes, the GR-300 about a decade earlier than the GR-3000. I think both were 25". GR-300 had some small roughly 3x5" 'cards' which plugged in, probably to the rear panel and the power supply was on the right side panel. Not sure about the cards but definitely recall the power supply board because it was pre-built and I thought that was a let-down. Plus the foil side of the power supply would arc to the metal chassis
(cabinet around the tube) and sometimes caused a shut-down. I remember trimming some off the excess lead length from the power supply board -- lessened the arcing but but still did, just not as often. Did that a
few times. Finally Dad came up with an idea: glue a rubber jar opener
to the chassis. No more arcing!

Good for You!!!!!!!!

Glad Dad thought of it! He didn't know electronics but did teach me the
basics of electricity (house wiring) and that was my basis for
electronics.

... I'm a slef-taught proggrammer

Speling miss-steaks r oh-kay az long az consistant!

Hey!, Tagline mis-spelling IS O.K.! they are suppose to make You
<G R I N>.

That's where I dive into the box (see semi-joke explanation in a reply
to Nancy) and get a little picky: Dad was a decent speller, my Mother isn't but then English is not her native language. I sort of went the opposite direction and went for the correct spellings, though
apparenty skipped back a generation to Dad's English and Scottish
parents. Now as for the typos in my e-mails, I'll blame part of that
on a slow response of the text editor (I'll get ahead a few characters
at times) and an odd quirk of typing one letter when meaning another:
I'll type 'c' for 's' and vice versa semi-consistently but not due to
not knowing how to spell the word.

Multi-Mail doesn't have a Spell Checker, like You I do the best I
can before I send the .REP file.

OK - I couldn't remember it's been so long since I changed anything.
Some times it's just I don't like how Product A works or Product B does the same thing but in a way I like better so switch. Here using SEdit
for the editor which has a decent dictionary .

Since I use Multi-Mail DOS, when I want to type a word in a BBS
Message and really want to be sure it is spelled correctly I will
save the text I have written already and then use ALT - Enter to
reduce the size of the window Multi-Mail is in and then point the
mouse pointer at the word, Press the Ctrl Key and press the right
mouse button to Open WordWeb.

Too much fiddling for me! ^A and the built-in dictionary starts
checking from the cursor and doesn't stop until it finds a potentially mispelled word or the end of the document. Fortunately it detects most
of the quoteback characters (your 'EV>' as a mispelled word and stops,
else I'd probably have to learn to add a bookmark. And yes, does give suggestions to correct the word.

I use the Free version of WordWeb, a Dictionary-Thesaurus that I downloaded from the URL: wordweb.info .

I think it's amazing (and grateful for on my budget!) all the free stuff
out there. Was reading the other day where a site was stating OpenOffice/LibreOffice was better than Microsoft Word, plus OO/LO was
free and Word cost $100.

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In another Echo Network (FSX) I saw someone write about being in
NH. Do You read messages in that Network?

Nope; doens't sound familiar.

Would You want me to search for the message and Forward it to You
here?

If you want to. :) I moved out here in 1975 and have been back for
short visits.

I already Forwarded the message to You either here or in
IL_CHITCHAT, the FOG has rolled in since I Forwarded it.

Found it floating around the other day -- thank you!

BTW, I've seen the ANSI posts You've made in the other echo.
Lurkers are Lurkers, You know............

Glad someone is looking at them! Lee suggested I post them some time
back. I could never draw like that but sometimes would offer
corrections: art would come though with an extra space or spurious block/character. Lots of times I'd track and report the error so it
could be corrected.


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